Frank was not the smartest cookie here... Not too smart on his part to tell Natalia that some of the special romantic things he did for her where all driven by Olivia and not by his own effort. He at least gave Olivia the credit she deserved but it wasn't the best move on his part...
This was without a doubt the worst "Pre Cana" Meeting. More depressing than what Danny & Michelle went through in 1999. I think that Father Ray knew something was wrong as he looked at Natalia's Face.
i feel bad for franks character, he used to be a good guy that people routed for, but theyve set his character up to be the dupe. but he does play the dupe very well. lol
Wouldn't it have been worse if Frank had said "Olivia encouraged me to date you, and that's saying alot considering that I used to date her as well as my Father."
LOL! Buzz is taking care of the dishes and as soon as Olivia mentions Natalia --- he stops everything and looks like "OH LORD--here we go". Funny how you know his reaction even though his back is to us.
OMG they both are sooo much in love with each other. Nat appears to be totally pissed with Olivia that she pushed Frank to do all those nice things for her and she (Olivia) did not do them herself.
everything Nat said about Frank, I think she was describing Liv. Because her and Frankenstein NEVER clicked. They always seem awkward around each other.
I never tire of watching Jessica in these scenes...she was simply outstanding. Her delivery of the lines....amazing. Can't wait until she is back on Monday...I've missed her.
Frank Frank Frank..........you poor fool! Do you REALLY think it was smart to tell Natalia that Olivia was behind a lot of the special things you did for her?! Clicked huh?...........I don't think so!!!
Ummmm if your a man and you have to ask another women how to please the women you so call click with then theres a problem, olivia had natalia in the bag and all figured out before she or he knew just by her paying attention to her feelings and her is priceless. hes so vain and hopeless lol.
Give Frank Dicopoulos his props. As I've said before, he has very thick skin and I'm sure he's been mocked, teased, and laughed at by fans all over the world. From Frank The Wank to Frankenfurter to even Frankenstein, he won't live this down for a long time.
I didn't realize until now watching this again how amazing the sequence is. Flawless, the message is spoken so clearly. It is such a great summary of who Olivia and Natalia are and how much they really mean to each other.
Nat is so cute when she asks Father Ray about unexpected feelings that she doesn't understand...and Buzz seemed to be a lil threatened on Frank's behalf when he tried to make the distinction between Otalia's "friendship" and being in love...he knew instinctively that something was amiss.
Yes being in love (as the Otalia is) is different than the friendship that Nat has with Frank...and the only reason Frank knew anything is because Cyrano (not sure if that is how you spell the name)-A.K.A. Olivia was feeding him all the info. about Nat-behind the scenes...i am so glad it was finally revealed here.
I always thought Frank was an ass for taking credit for things that Olivia set up and put into Frank's mind, but his confession that Olivia was behind all of the special things, especially early on was a good redeeming quality by him. I remember when Olivia was going to make that really special dinner and then told Frank to give it to Natalia. That was the beginning of Nat & Frank's relationship,take that away and they never would have gotten together. It's interesting to go back and see that.
I think if Frank knew that was one of the things that would help push Natalia to Olivia, I don't think he would have said anything about it was Olivia behind their special moments.
"I am grateful that she came into my life even just for a short time" - if O says N is just a friend then why would a platonic 'relationship' be disturbed by N's marriage to a man.
"she will do the same with Frank" Olivia compares her and N's relationship with Frank and N's relationship.
"it is what i want for her" - meaning Olivia is 'pushing the pieces around the chess board'. she is in control but wants the 'best' for Natalia.
I believe that Buzz knows that Olivia is in love with Natalia, He hear Olivia saying in so many words, that I'm willing to let her go to be happy, that's why on another scene he ask Frank is he willing to let Natalia go. One Of the keys to love is sacrificing yourself for another. And if your not willing to do that then your not in love.
Olivia had no problem with it and Frank show his selfishness.
You know when I wrote this, I thought the writer and I was on target. When I go further into the show when Buzz see Natalia in the store he acts like he's clueless. saying maybe you should give Frank a second chance. well I guess we thought he knew but he is just as blind as Frank was. maybe the writer might change that too. oh well we have to wait and see.
Natalia realize that it was Olivia who made Frank doing those amazing things for her to be happy and because of all these things Frank did, she agreed to marry him. She has NEVER SAID: I LOVE YOU, FRANK.
I just realized that Natalia has never said to anyone, frank included that she loves Frank. I think the only time she used the words and Frank in the same sentence is when she told Olivia that she slept with Fran but did not love him. I love this scene because it's the moment that she realizes that all of the "positive attributes" about Frank that made her say yes , that could lead her to "love" Frank, is actually due to Olivia.
Eriklovessoaps, i have been watching some of the buzz/olivia clips on your channel. they did have a great friendship. buzz is really quite a cool dude. at that point olivia was not ready to be so open to love as she is now, but she made such progress while with him. they both helped each other do a lot of healing. Buzz is doing a great job here showing his understanding of what's really going on without saying it. JD has great range as an actor. He and CC act well together.
lol, Natalia is so determined to go through with this, but every scene there's something to ding her determination, remind her who she's walking away from.
N:"married today, everything's fine, it's all going to be great."
*olivia moves out*
N:"uhh, okay, it's okay, gonna marry frank, gonna be fine!"
*Frank confesses olivia told him what to do*
N:"You-What the f-- no, calm down. It can still be okay! We can get by!!!"
Have you ever noticed that even when Olivia/Natalia aren't in the same room they can't help but mention each other's name. They love each other so much :) Go team OTALIA....OTALIA FOREVER
Olivia's mouth:"I'll never have a friend like her."
Olivia's eyes:"I'm dying.This is killing me."
I marvel how Buzz doesn't start to cry right there in his own kitchen..He KNOWS Olivia.If there's someone who understands her shift from the self cenetered bad girl to the selflessly loving one it's him.He's believed in her all these years and now, here she is.
Of course he's a tiny bit preoccupied w/ the rings in his pocket..
O is actually holding the rings and touching them the whole time she is talking. They are both doing such a great job in this scene with multiple layers of history, subtext, and body-language. O tells the story "she is sticking with" but her tone of voice, her eyes, her hands are all telling the story of her love for N. B hears it loud and clear, and gets choked up with empathy for all of them, O, N, and F. He can hardly stand. He got a clue at the engagmnt party. Now he's sure. well done!
I think Buzz is kind of acting out how we have all been feeling lately about this story. He looks kind of pale and nauseous and has a hard time standing up straight. Buzz has caught a case of Otalitis [with Frank complications]
yeah, and when olivia says "it's what i want for her", she's basically saying... "i know you know i love her, but leave it alone. i've made my choice".
i love how INTERLACED the scenes were with Natalia/Frank and Olivia/Buzz. Even if Natalia and Olivia aren't in the same room, the Otalia love is there... They just can't stop thinking about each other.
I liked Frank when he told Nat that Liv was behind those "special things" he did for her. We'll see if he's gonna make me like him more by deciding to let Natalia go.
Crikey if someone got me like Liv gets Nat, i wld never let that understanding, loyalty and love go. Open your eyes woman it was Liv that courted you not Frank, he has just told you
out of curiosity: where´s is frank d. from? I really think his accent is annoying lol maybe the fact that I don´t hold too much sympathy for frankfurter is adding to it :) no offense...
God, doesn't Natalia look like a disgusted contestant on The Newlywed Game, and boy was she surprised when Frank opened that Pandora's Box. Natalia, honey, Frank isn't your soulmate 'OLIVIA IS!!"
Either the writers gave really leading dialogue to the priest, or he has figured out stuff...
And I was so psyched that the truth about the special dinner came out. Man, Natalia's face when she realized how Olivia helped, and Olivia's face talking about what Natalia deserves.
Olivia was she was behind some of those sepcial things you did for me says Natalia....yeah Natalia, the person you click with is not frank but it is Olivia
Nat:"What if feelings come along that you don't really understand?"....If Frank was paying attention he would have asked "what kind of feelings?".
Buzz is really starting to catch on.
Was anyone else extremely distracted by Crystal/Olivia's lips in this episode? They just seemed more luscious than usual if that's possible. So so kissable. *Sigh*
"He'll give her the life she deserves. It's what 'I' want for 'her'. (So adamant about Nat being happy. No real concern for Frank at all here. The way she said this was so single minded.)
And every time she opens her mouth, you can see Buzz putting the pieces together. The expressions on his face just scream "This isn't what a 'friend' would say. There's too much invested here."
All of Olivia's responses are so telling in this part.
"I'm just glad that she came into my life even for a little while." (If it's just 'friendship' why does it have to be over when Nat gets married?)
"She's brought out better parts of me... she'll do that for Frank." (Comparing your relationship with her to Frank's. She shouldn't be doing the same things for you that she does for him.
This is just a Master Class of acting - EVERYone has stepped up...... God, Nat's face with Father R. said be "open & honest"!! And NO coincidence that N & F used "we clicked" "(he) gets me" - exactly the words Liv described Otalia with. And now Nat knows why it seemed Frank was those things for her - Liv was Cyrano for Frank! This whole show today is the best I've seen from this S/L. *claps*
There is one constant in Olivia's storyline: Olivia gets what Olivia wants. She wants Natalia to have some fairy tale life, and by god, Olivia is going to make it happen--whether Natalia wants it or not. Oh, poor Liv.
i really like this convo with Buzz (watched a few more times). I don't think Liv realizes how much a tell she just dropped. Buzz's character makes sucha good catalyst. I have big hopes for him.
finally she finds out frank didnt have a freaking clue wut she wanted and how to get her to like him now nats thinking how long liv has been hiding feelings for her
bosyeux2- Had to revisit this clip and read your post. Your recap was perfect. Natalia was swept off her feet by proxy (Olivia). Emma's My Two Mommie's essay got the wheels turning in Olivia's head first, but Nat was along for the ride (though she couldn't acknowledge it initially).
Love Olivia's heart felt selfless comment about being glad Natalia came into her life and it being a privilege getting to know her. Frank never had a chance, Olivia was the real deal...and a freaking Goddess!
Yes - glad Frank spilled about Olivia's help. Also struck me how Liv says to Buzz "Its what I want for her" in referring to the marriage to Frank. Really great editing how they bounced these scenes back and forth for the broadcast
I note at the end that Olivia says that Natalia is "right" for Frank....there's no mention of love at all. The writing is SO good on this storyline....it blows me away!!
actions speak volumes,and it is clear that otalia are speaking in the same lanuage here,only nat chooses to be hearing impaired..lol,if oli's expressions were'nt transparent then nat needs to stydy braile.
looks like to me when frank says it was liv that DID MOST OF THE WORK in their realtionship Nat looks like she's thinking "you should have told me sooner" lol
'Husband, Wife and family. Those are the things I believe in..' Oh, Natalia, come on now, isn't it time to let some of the guilt and worry go..? God brought Olivia into your life, He doesn't hate you for finding love with another person.. You know what.. I honestly think Natalia is going to struggle and push Liv away for a little while longer...
I think so too rainbowpride76 its a very hard struggle. Its very unrealistic for her not to take a while to deal w/her feelings along side her religious beliefs. I know it took me awhile but thank GOD I had a patient partner and she felt I was worth the wait/headache/heartache. Olivia feels the same way about Natalia and it'll make them stronger in the end! This is a wonderful love story!
Wow...just dawned on me... when Nat says, "He knew when I needed to be swept off my feet," I bet she was talking about the dinner... and then she finds out Olivia was behind it.
OMG, it just dawned on me by reading that it dawned on you. lol.
Frank never swept Nat off her feet, it was Olivia!
Otalia reminds me right now of what they were doing when each other thought the other wanted to move out. Olivia is convinced that Nat really wants a traditional family, and not her real passion. Nat is so in denial that I think she's convinced by Liv saying get married, and helping her with the wedding that Liv couldn't possibly feel the "feelings she doesn't understand."
Jessica really knocked it out of the park in this scene....WOW....Well done Jessica. Love the interaction between Buzz and Olivia...Buzz knows her so well and can see right through her. Beautiful scenes...again I say, Wow!!
you I am figureing out there was a really good reason I never watch soap operas until now.. I am about to nuts waiting for the next episode.LOL. I was watching this on the GL website and fast forwarding through the kidnapping of a baby. I had to laugh cause that just seemed so Wrong.
" *raised eyebrow* sounds like they both had your best interests at heart" Come on Nat, if a catholic priest can figure out Liv's in love with you, I think you can do it too.
Think the penny dropped when Nat found out Liv helped Frank but then she talks about things she believes in arrghh. Thanks God I've read the spoilers. Nice scene with Liv & Buzz, think he knows ;)
I am sooo glad that Nat finally knows the truth about Olivia telling Frank about Nats fav food and her needs etc, I've been waiting for that to come out since thst Buzz Burger with extra onions in January!
Wow, I'm actually highly impressed that the writers brought what Olivia did for Natalia, through Frank that is, back to light. This is seriously one of the best story lines out there right now. This is coming from an Office and Grey's Anatomy fan where we think nothing beats "our" show LOL.
Poor Frank...He really loves Natalia. Good for Buzz to pick up on Oliva's feelings.... Yeah! Frank keep talking about how 'helpful" Olivia has been! Thanks Otaliafan! :-))
"You need to be open and honest with each other"...."What if feelings come along that you don't understand?" I have lost track of the 'red-flags' in this relationship, but at a pre-marriage session with a priest and bride/groom, this seems to be a BIG one...
I agree I think this is why Father Ray doesn't marry them. They asked him to rearrange his schedule and he's like I'll try. He could if he wanted to or if he thought this was the right thing to do. Even the Father knows that Natalia is not in love w/Frank. Neither of them have used the word "LOVE" during this counseling session I don't think. I love Buzz and Olivia scenes he knows her so well and knows she's in love with Natalia.
You're right about Father Ray....I hadn't thought of that. And, you're also right about it being very 'telling' that LOVE wasn't used in the pre-marriage session. I kept wishing that the priest was going to ask Frank to step out of the room so he (Father Ray) could ask her how she truly felt...
The only good thing she thought of Frank has just been smashed into pieces. hahaha
Olivia, the woman behind the curtain, pulling on all the strings.
So now in Nat's eyes, basically all those romantic gestures that seemed to be made by Frank, were coming from Olivia. and THAT my friends changes a lot of things.
Yeah wow... you could just see the wheels spinning when Nat found out that Liv was behind all those "special moments".
And then to say she believes in marriage and family, it was like if Nat said it out loud maybe she would believe it.
I gotta admit I would be a little pissed if I was Nat at Liv (though Nat is in super denial right now) I would be like, "come on!" The dinners, the Rafe visits! Really!!! And I finding out now! Plus, Liv is the one who told Nat to marry Frank.
I am absolutely floored by Natalia's reaction to finding out that Cyrano d'Olivia was behind every chivalrous act that Frank performed. It was like a gradual "...Ooo...sshh****t...." dawning over Natalia's reality check horizon.
Frank u dumb$%!@ you don't tell the woman your about to marry that someone else is the reason she fell for you
815547 7 months ago
Frank was not the smartest cookie here... Not too smart on his part to tell Natalia that some of the special romantic things he did for her where all driven by Olivia and not by his own effort. He at least gave Olivia the credit she deserved but it wasn't the best move on his part...
PtoRicanDBLT 1 year ago 2
This was without a doubt the worst "Pre Cana" Meeting. More depressing than what Danny & Michelle went through in 1999. I think that Father Ray knew something was wrong as he looked at Natalia's Face.
laminage 1 year ago
i feel bad for franks character, he used to be a good guy that people routed for, but theyve set his character up to be the dupe. but he does play the dupe very well. lol
TheTraumacase 2 years ago 6
Wouldn't it have been worse if Frank had said "Olivia encouraged me to date you, and that's saying alot considering that I used to date her as well as my Father."
laminage 2 years ago
i can see the light bulb at 2:27...u feel duped nat??? lol
cscgirl13 2 years ago 5
cuse my language but when the fuck did frank sweep natalia off her feet? bad writing gl.
cscgirl13 2 years ago
LOL! Buzz is taking care of the dishes and as soon as Olivia mentions Natalia --- he stops everything and looks like "OH LORD--here we go". Funny how you know his reaction even though his back is to us.
zhg0507 2 years ago
OMG they both are sooo much in love with each other. Nat appears to be totally pissed with Olivia that she pushed Frank to do all those nice things for her and she (Olivia) did not do them herself.
Boomleggz 2 years ago 6
I remember this day as the day the whole BPD shouted KEEP TALKING FRANK!! Instead of the usual SHUT UP FRANK!!!!!
Clooglee 2 years ago 12
LMFAO XD it was definitely the 1st time i wanted him to keep talking lol XD
brittlesnc21 2 years ago 6
Buzz is certainly not stupid. He knew how Olivia really felt and possibly Natalia too.
PyperGurl 2 years ago 7
i kno eh? buzz was the only one with eyes in his head
549621jon 2 years ago 2
Otalia =[
I want Liv and Nat to just...be together already.
cassandraleighx 2 years ago 2
I want Otalia back :((((((((((((((((((((
CalipsoSarah 2 years ago 5
Buzz is not a stupid man. Unfortunately, can't say the same for his son.
literalmetaphor 2 years ago 8
You spilled the BEANS frank! You big dope!
( psst... Glad you did!!:) )
nicoberry3 2 years ago 4
everything Nat said about Frank, I think she was describing Liv. Because her and Frankenstein NEVER clicked. They always seem awkward around each other.
court1014 2 years ago 3
i think this cinched the love thing for natalia...i think when ol frank said it was liv that helped him, it was the last layer that nat needed..
luvspencersjersey 2 years ago 6
i am struggling watching these scenes, i can't stand to hear frank talk.
triptriptriplestripe 2 years ago 4
I never tire of watching Jessica in these scenes...she was simply outstanding. Her delivery of the lines....amazing. Can't wait until she is back on Monday...I've missed her.
renville68 2 years ago 9
Frank Frank Frank..........you poor fool! Do you REALLY think it was smart to tell Natalia that Olivia was behind a lot of the special things you did for her?! Clicked huh?...........I don't think so!!!
ThaPrincess2008 2 years ago 6
JL is spot on in all of these scenes.
wendygoat 2 years ago 10
Ummmm if your a man and you have to ask another women how to please the women you so call click with then theres a problem, olivia had natalia in the bag and all figured out before she or he knew just by her paying attention to her feelings and her is priceless. hes so vain and hopeless lol.
09angelcake 2 years ago 8
Give Frank Dicopoulos his props. As I've said before, he has very thick skin and I'm sure he's been mocked, teased, and laughed at by fans all over the world. From Frank The Wank to Frankenfurter to even Frankenstein, he won't live this down for a long time.
laminage 2 years ago 2
Yeah, you clicked. And after the terrible boarding house sex she avoided you like the plague!
royalxanadu 2 years ago 11
A lot help Frank, not a little!
44bett 2 years ago
for the love of all that's holy!!!! Frank is a huge loooooser! Ugh I cant stand him....he'll never work again
tribecachick 2 years ago
funny how olivia nearly chokes on the word "perfect" when referring to frank
brabci23 2 years ago 2
i thought i was the only one that noticed that....she is hurtin thats y...poor liv
canign 2 years ago
Frank is so boring that even Father ray is dozzing off when he speaks.....
catchic3 2 years ago 8
Clicked my ass!!
IT WAS OLIVIA!!! Remember the kiss you gave her she almost bolted afterwards... what kind of click are you ralking about...
zaavian 2 years ago 7
I didn't realize until now watching this again how amazing the sequence is. Flawless, the message is spoken so clearly. It is such a great summary of who Olivia and Natalia are and how much they really mean to each other.
musicaldramaqueen 2 years ago 7
is there an unintentional pun in Buzz's comment 'what are they puttin in your drinking water?' I don't know maybe I reading too much into this...
Rutt7 2 years ago
Nat is so cute when she asks Father Ray about unexpected feelings that she doesn't understand...and Buzz seemed to be a lil threatened on Frank's behalf when he tried to make the distinction between Otalia's "friendship" and being in love...he knew instinctively that something was amiss.
bribbie 2 years ago 12
now natalia knows that all frank did was because of olvia!!
pollohige 2 years ago 15
Yes being in love (as the Otalia is) is different than the friendship that Nat has with Frank...and the only reason Frank knew anything is because Cyrano (not sure if that is how you spell the name)-A.K.A. Olivia was feeding him all the info. about Nat-behind the scenes...i am so glad it was finally revealed here.
bribbie 2 years ago 6
frank is an idiot, anyone can see that these two are meant to be maaan
sillylily315 2 years ago 3
Buzz so knew that they were in love with each other. I can't believe Frank did not catch on sooner.
i mean all they really talk about is each other.
549621jon 2 years ago 5
i think i know the priest from another soap, but i can't place it, any help?
flon57 2 years ago
I always thought Frank was an ass for taking credit for things that Olivia set up and put into Frank's mind, but his confession that Olivia was behind all of the special things, especially early on was a good redeeming quality by him. I remember when Olivia was going to make that really special dinner and then told Frank to give it to Natalia. That was the beginning of Nat & Frank's relationship,take that away and they never would have gotten together. It's interesting to go back and see that.
Stacie023 2 years ago 5
I think if Frank knew that was one of the things that would help push Natalia to Olivia, I don't think he would have said anything about it was Olivia behind their special moments.
unicorn9153 2 years ago 3
At 2:18 Natalia is like "Oh shit."
That's when it hit her that, yeah, Frank will never be the one she loves. Ever.
sunshineandfriends 2 years ago 6
Olivia let the cat outa the bag a little today...
"I am grateful that she came into my life even just for a short time" - if O says N is just a friend then why would a platonic 'relationship' be disturbed by N's marriage to a man.
"she will do the same with Frank" Olivia compares her and N's relationship with Frank and N's relationship.
"it is what i want for her" - meaning Olivia is 'pushing the pieces around the chess board'. she is in control but wants the 'best' for Natalia.
chapeloflove123 2 years ago 5
I believe that Buzz knows that Olivia is in love with Natalia, He hear Olivia saying in so many words, that I'm willing to let her go to be happy, that's why on another scene he ask Frank is he willing to let Natalia go. One Of the keys to love is sacrificing yourself for another. And if your not willing to do that then your not in love.
Olivia had no problem with it and Frank show his selfishness.
nefreteri2000 2 years ago 6
i think he totally knows
carol00 2 years ago
You know when I wrote this, I thought the writer and I was on target. When I go further into the show when Buzz see Natalia in the store he acts like he's clueless. saying maybe you should give Frank a second chance. well I guess we thought he knew but he is just as blind as Frank was. maybe the writer might change that too. oh well we have to wait and see.
nefreteri2000 2 years ago 2
Natalia realize that it was Olivia who made Frank doing those amazing things for her to be happy and because of all these things Frank did, she agreed to marry him. She has NEVER SAID: I LOVE YOU, FRANK.
wishingstar09 2 years ago 31
Frank is so boring!
lesmith820 2 years ago 11
I call him "the two-by-four."
juswannasay 2 years ago 2
*from 2:03 to 2:06 :)
8969171 2 years ago
aww Natalia looks soo Cute wt that Dimple on her face <33
glad I hv one too =D
8969171 2 years ago 5
I just realized that Natalia has never said to anyone, frank included that she loves Frank. I think the only time she used the words and Frank in the same sentence is when she told Olivia that she slept with Fran but did not love him. I love this scene because it's the moment that she realizes that all of the "positive attributes" about Frank that made her say yes , that could lead her to "love" Frank, is actually due to Olivia.
TranManT 2 years ago 5
"I found a great man to marry." -- okay, now let's try that again with a little more feeling and a little less NNNNOOOOOOOOOOO across your face.
JAcubs 2 years ago 42
this is so painful
yojayoung 2 years ago 3
LOL. Natalia looks SO bored with Frank in the room with Father ray!
Franks nice and all but he's dumb as a box of hair.
copywtr 2 years ago 7
rsrsrsr so good!!!! I love it
Brasil say for Olivia and Nathalia: THANKS FOR YOUR BEAUTIFUL WORKS IN.
KISSES
BESOS
BEIJOS
pipocacolorida 2 years ago
i keep coming back to this segment. I luv it.
wildwomanradio 2 years ago
Love Buzz and Olivia talks. But Olivia, you were friends with Buzz before hooking up with him. So, I think you've had another friend like Natalia.
eriklovessoaps 2 years ago
Eriklovessoaps, i have been watching some of the buzz/olivia clips on your channel. they did have a great friendship. buzz is really quite a cool dude. at that point olivia was not ready to be so open to love as she is now, but she made such progress while with him. they both helped each other do a lot of healing. Buzz is doing a great job here showing his understanding of what's really going on without saying it. JD has great range as an actor. He and CC act well together.
jbear43000 2 years ago
No not like Nat...
tny86 2 years ago
I guess that's right. Buzz wouldn't leave town after getting pregnant. He wouldn't leave Olivia.
eriklovessoaps 2 years ago 2
lol, Natalia is so determined to go through with this, but every scene there's something to ding her determination, remind her who she's walking away from.
N:"married today, everything's fine, it's all going to be great."
*olivia moves out*
N:"uhh, okay, it's okay, gonna marry frank, gonna be fine!"
*Frank confesses olivia told him what to do*
N:"You-What the f-- no, calm down. It can still be okay! We can get by!!!"
*Olivia confesses*
N:"It's . . . it's . . . ah, god dammit."
hasslfoot 2 years ago 9
hehe
awesome
YuriFanGirls 2 years ago
I know. and then:
*fr. ray decides "he is too busy"*
N: "well we will just do it ourselves if we have too" [uh, god, you are not going to forsake me here are you?]
* Doris gets started with her shenanigans at the ceremony *
N: "It's all good, I'm good...gulp"
*Olivia touches her hand while passing her the ring, Nat's turn to say vows - before GOD*
N: ok even I can't be in this much denial!! runs from church [pretty graceful for someone that pregnant]
she never had a chance!
*
jbear43000 2 years ago 4
Have you ever noticed that even when Olivia/Natalia aren't in the same room they can't help but mention each other's name. They love each other so much :) Go team OTALIA....OTALIA FOREVER
readingjewel 2 years ago 3
Olivia's mouth:"Great friendship"
Olivia's eyes:"I love her"
Olivia's mouth:"I'll never have a friend like her."
Olivia's eyes:"I'm dying.This is killing me."
I marvel how Buzz doesn't start to cry right there in his own kitchen..He KNOWS Olivia.If there's someone who understands her shift from the self cenetered bad girl to the selflessly loving one it's him.He's believed in her all these years and now, here she is.
Of course he's a tiny bit preoccupied w/ the rings in his pocket..
amidola 2 years ago 5
Ugh, it just *hurts* to watch. but it's totally amazing how CC can do that<3
fhgrl33 2 years ago 3
O is actually holding the rings and touching them the whole time she is talking. They are both doing such a great job in this scene with multiple layers of history, subtext, and body-language. O tells the story "she is sticking with" but her tone of voice, her eyes, her hands are all telling the story of her love for N. B hears it loud and clear, and gets choked up with empathy for all of them, O, N, and F. He can hardly stand. He got a clue at the engagmnt party. Now he's sure. well done!
jbear43000 2 years ago 2
I think Buzz is kind of acting out how we have all been feeling lately about this story. He looks kind of pale and nauseous and has a hard time standing up straight. Buzz has caught a case of Otalitis [with Frank complications]
jbear43000 2 years ago 2
haha yep he's coming down with something
xcountrygrl 2 years ago
Lol...Otalitis....Freakn LOVE IT!!!
iowadaisiesfan 2 years ago
yeah, and when olivia says "it's what i want for her", she's basically saying... "i know you know i love her, but leave it alone. i've made my choice".
bosyeux2 2 years ago 5
Wow the close ups of CC when she's talking to Buzz are are so beautiful, 3:17. She's a stunning woman!
ctnswt 2 years ago 5
Notice how Father Ray darts his eyes to Natalia when he said, "And you're both ready to do that? (sumthin') forever, FORSAKING ALL OTHERS?"
He is sooo on Team Otalia's side! Kudos to the writers!!!
hybridstar08 2 years ago 3
i love how INTERLACED the scenes were with Natalia/Frank and Olivia/Buzz. Even if Natalia and Olivia aren't in the same room, the Otalia love is there... They just can't stop thinking about each other.
I liked Frank when he told Nat that Liv was behind those "special things" he did for her. We'll see if he's gonna make me like him more by deciding to let Natalia go.
hybridstar08 2 years ago 5
Crikey if someone got me like Liv gets Nat, i wld never let that understanding, loyalty and love go. Open your eyes woman it was Liv that courted you not Frank, he has just told you
kazzakaka 2 years ago 5
out of curiosity: where´s is frank d. from? I really think his accent is annoying lol maybe the fact that I don´t hold too much sympathy for frankfurter is adding to it :) no offense...
jayweh 2 years ago
ok Nat all you did at 1:46 was describe olivia, but put franks name at the end. and thats not good enough for me.
phinayis 2 years ago 2
N: What if feeling come along that you don't understand.
*cough* talking about Olivia much?*cough*
iloveyoumiss 2 years ago 8
ah ahahaha...
and it always goes back to OLIVIA!
Nat... O.L.I.V.I.A
info07 2 years ago 3
God, doesn't Natalia look like a disgusted contestant on The Newlywed Game, and boy was she surprised when Frank opened that Pandora's Box. Natalia, honey, Frank isn't your soulmate 'OLIVIA IS!!"
laminage 2 years ago 2
Either the writers gave really leading dialogue to the priest, or he has figured out stuff...
And I was so psyched that the truth about the special dinner came out. Man, Natalia's face when she realized how Olivia helped, and Olivia's face talking about what Natalia deserves.
Revolos55 2 years ago 4
Buzz so knows, and to tell you the truth I think he's encouragin Olivia...
iloveyoumiss 2 years ago 2
It is still heart breaking to watch some how right??
hakuryumoochi 2 years ago
Olivia was she was behind some of those sepcial things you did for me says Natalia....yeah Natalia, the person you click with is not frank but it is Olivia
joujou83 2 years ago 6
JLs face when she asks Father Ray about feelings says it all. Everything is catching up to her. She knows this is wrong (marrying Frank).
Buzz knows......he so knows!!!!!!!
Nat is so talking about Liv at 1:46 not Frank. open yur eyes woman!!!!
valary740 2 years ago 6
buzz knows!!!!!!!
thats all i can say
YuriFanGirls 2 years ago 2
Nat:"What if feelings come along that you don't really understand?"....If Frank was paying attention he would have asked "what kind of feelings?".
Buzz is really starting to catch on.
Was anyone else extremely distracted by Crystal/Olivia's lips in this episode? They just seemed more luscious than usual if that's possible. So so kissable. *Sigh*
tav2252 2 years ago 9
"He'll give her the life she deserves. It's what 'I' want for 'her'. (So adamant about Nat being happy. No real concern for Frank at all here. The way she said this was so single minded.)
And every time she opens her mouth, you can see Buzz putting the pieces together. The expressions on his face just scream "This isn't what a 'friend' would say. There's too much invested here."
phreekoonaetur 2 years ago 4
All of Olivia's responses are so telling in this part.
"I'm just glad that she came into my life even for a little while." (If it's just 'friendship' why does it have to be over when Nat gets married?)
"She's brought out better parts of me... she'll do that for Frank." (Comparing your relationship with her to Frank's. She shouldn't be doing the same things for you that she does for him.
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phreekoonaetur 2 years ago 7
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phreekoonaetur 2 years ago
That was such a pointed comment "It sounds like they BOTH have your best interests at heart" The both being olivia
DaiArashi 2 years ago
This is just a Master Class of acting - EVERYone has stepped up...... God, Nat's face with Father R. said be "open & honest"!! And NO coincidence that N & F used "we clicked" "(he) gets me" - exactly the words Liv described Otalia with. And now Nat knows why it seemed Frank was those things for her - Liv was Cyrano for Frank! This whole show today is the best I've seen from this S/L. *claps*
rhyfeddu 2 years ago 4
Exactly, Liv was Cyrano. Well said.
PeaceEtc 2 years ago 4
i was thinking theexact same thing. i luv it when other pple think of stuff like that i hate being the only 1.
rorobrown123 2 years ago
There is one constant in Olivia's storyline: Olivia gets what Olivia wants. She wants Natalia to have some fairy tale life, and by god, Olivia is going to make it happen--whether Natalia wants it or not. Oh, poor Liv.
thehotdamned 2 years ago 6
finally she admits something to herself even if she's not sure what she's admitting...
Meghan9002 2 years ago
I'm dying to see if Natalia is going to talk to Father Ray alone about her "confusing feelings"! Aaaaahahaha!
weezyir 2 years ago
I can't even express the joy I feel at Frank finally confessing to having Liv's help with wooing Natalia...You are a dumbass Furter!!!...LOL...Woot!!
iluvjillbennett 2 years ago 3
Natalia didn't even want to look at the rings, and yet Olivia can't stop touching Natalia's wedding ring.
LifeIsTooEasy 2 years ago 4
yeah. one of many brilliant touches today, right?!
tannsolo 2 years ago
We are finally making some real progress here quickly today's show feels so important
Aisha2178 2 years ago
aaahhhhhh, I'm literally shaking here I'm so nervous with these scenes, lol....gawd, i need a drink :D
PozoBlue 2 years ago
I absolutely LOVE that Frank admitted that Olivia helped him...she was behind it all, and Nat needed to know that!!!
witchlesbian 2 years ago 2
poor jess she looks a little tired. i hope that she is not working too much.
marciab21 2 years ago
i really like this convo with Buzz (watched a few more times). I don't think Liv realizes how much a tell she just dropped. Buzz's character makes sucha good catalyst. I have big hopes for him.
wildwomanradio 2 years ago
finally she finds out frank didnt have a freaking clue wut she wanted and how to get her to like him now nats thinking how long liv has been hiding feelings for her
gypsygirl999 2 years ago
and there it is, frank tells nat that she in fact fell in love with liv... her thoughtfulness, concern, creativity, and her romance.
straw, meet camel's back
interesting that liv said she was happy to have nat in her life, "even for a little while". she's only moving across town.
brilliant writing.
bosyeux2 2 years ago 3
bosyeux2- Had to revisit this clip and read your post. Your recap was perfect. Natalia was swept off her feet by proxy (Olivia). Emma's My Two Mommie's essay got the wheels turning in Olivia's head first, but Nat was along for the ride (though she couldn't acknowledge it initially).
Love Olivia's heart felt selfless comment about being glad Natalia came into her life and it being a privilege getting to know her. Frank never had a chance, Olivia was the real deal...and a freaking Goddess!
carolm007 2 years ago 2
sigh... those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end... sigh... just... sigh.
i hated the idea of the wedding, but damn they did an amazing job with everything around it. must go, if i sigh any more my heart will fall apart.
bosyeux2 2 years ago 5
we'd sing and dance for ever and a day...we'd live the life we choose,we'd fight and never lose...those were the days,oh yes those were the days...
I miss Otalia too...
carolm007 2 years ago
it's always nice when someone is willing to just dance with you : }
bosyeux2 2 years ago 3
Yes - glad Frank spilled about Olivia's help. Also struck me how Liv says to Buzz "Its what I want for her" in referring to the marriage to Frank. Really great editing how they bounced these scenes back and forth for the broadcast
wildwomanradio 2 years ago 3
I'm glad that she finally found out that Cyrano de Spencer was behind the meal etc but I expected to see more reaction from Nat.
xgfanap 2 years ago 2
I note at the end that Olivia says that Natalia is "right" for Frank....there's no mention of love at all. The writing is SO good on this storyline....it blows me away!!
renville68 2 years ago 2
Amen to that!
tannsolo 2 years ago
Is it just me, but did Natalia describe a pet dog?????
Sbrow61 2 years ago 6
i laughed at that.
Prolui 2 years ago
actions speak volumes,and it is clear that otalia are speaking in the same lanuage here,only nat chooses to be hearing impaired..lol,if oli's expressions were'nt transparent then nat needs to stydy braile.
Syrfsup67 2 years ago
looks like to me when frank says it was liv that DID MOST OF THE WORK in their realtionship Nat looks like she's thinking "you should have told me sooner" lol
evanescencefan2 2 years ago 4
OMG so much otalia goodness! Thank you GL and you Otaliafan! You rock.
rinaceros 2 years ago
Good grief.......My heart can'r take much more.
shay4mo 2 years ago
'Husband, Wife and family. Those are the things I believe in..' Oh, Natalia, come on now, isn't it time to let some of the guilt and worry go..? God brought Olivia into your life, He doesn't hate you for finding love with another person.. You know what.. I honestly think Natalia is going to struggle and push Liv away for a little while longer...
rainbowpride76 2 years ago
I think so too rainbowpride76 its a very hard struggle. Its very unrealistic for her not to take a while to deal w/her feelings along side her religious beliefs. I know it took me awhile but thank GOD I had a patient partner and she felt I was worth the wait/headache/heartache. Olivia feels the same way about Natalia and it'll make them stronger in the end! This is a wonderful love story!
allison6071 2 years ago 3
Wow...just dawned on me... when Nat says, "He knew when I needed to be swept off my feet," I bet she was talking about the dinner... and then she finds out Olivia was behind it.
Solari111 2 years ago 3
OMG, it just dawned on me by reading that it dawned on you. lol.
Frank never swept Nat off her feet, it was Olivia!
Otalia reminds me right now of what they were doing when each other thought the other wanted to move out. Olivia is convinced that Nat really wants a traditional family, and not her real passion. Nat is so in denial that I think she's convinced by Liv saying get married, and helping her with the wedding that Liv couldn't possibly feel the "feelings she doesn't understand."
giasony99 2 years ago 2
Yeah, EVERYTHING she said about Frank, she meant Olivia.
gidgegrl16 2 years ago
Jessica really knocked it out of the park in this scene....WOW....Well done Jessica. Love the interaction between Buzz and Olivia...Buzz knows her so well and can see right through her. Beautiful scenes...again I say, Wow!!
renville68 2 years ago 6
totally agree. Jessica is so beautiful..and her acting just gets better and better.
rinaceros 2 years ago 5
you I am figureing out there was a really good reason I never watch soap operas until now.. I am about to nuts waiting for the next episode.LOL. I was watching this on the GL website and fast forwarding through the kidnapping of a baby. I had to laugh cause that just seemed so Wrong.
uhaulhasaflatt 2 years ago 6
aww nat doesn't show her famous dimples like she used too. she needs some olivia in her life ^^
evanescencefan2 2 years ago 4
The look on Natalia's face at 2:42 ....how sad.......
janiepug 2 years ago
I like Olivia's and Buzz's conversation... "Friendship" and "love" are just so interchangeable here... She talks about friendship, but means love...
emalinourie 2 years ago 2
The flipping back and forth between the two scenes is really interesting. I love the editing this show does.
Solari111 2 years ago 6
" *raised eyebrow* sounds like they both had your best interests at heart" Come on Nat, if a catholic priest can figure out Liv's in love with you, I think you can do it too.
eboshi122 2 years ago 6
Think the penny dropped when Nat found out Liv helped Frank but then she talks about things she believes in arrghh. Thanks God I've read the spoilers. Nice scene with Liv & Buzz, think he knows ;)
amused10 2 years ago 3
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johncenafeen 2 years ago
This show is actually making me love Buzz and feel sorry for Frank. I never thought that would happen.
attagrrrl 2 years ago 2
I am sooo glad that Nat finally knows the truth about Olivia telling Frank about Nats fav food and her needs etc, I've been waiting for that to come out since thst Buzz Burger with extra onions in January!
rainbowpride76 2 years ago 4
Wow, I'm actually highly impressed that the writers brought what Olivia did for Natalia, through Frank that is, back to light. This is seriously one of the best story lines out there right now. This is coming from an Office and Grey's Anatomy fan where we think nothing beats "our" show LOL.
cincygurl 2 years ago 6
Frank? Frank? Over here mate! I think Stevie Wonder is gonna spot this one coming before you do.
Someone please tell that man to pick up the clue phone
scratrat 2 years ago 6
Poor Frank...He really loves Natalia. Good for Buzz to pick up on Oliva's feelings.... Yeah! Frank keep talking about how 'helpful" Olivia has been! Thanks Otaliafan! :-))
StephanieAZ3 2 years ago
"You need to be open and honest with each other"...."What if feelings come along that you don't understand?" I have lost track of the 'red-flags' in this relationship, but at a pre-marriage session with a priest and bride/groom, this seems to be a BIG one...
helloFromNYC 2 years ago 9
I agree I think this is why Father Ray doesn't marry them. They asked him to rearrange his schedule and he's like I'll try. He could if he wanted to or if he thought this was the right thing to do. Even the Father knows that Natalia is not in love w/Frank. Neither of them have used the word "LOVE" during this counseling session I don't think. I love Buzz and Olivia scenes he knows her so well and knows she's in love with Natalia.
allison6071 2 years ago 4
You're right about Father Ray....I hadn't thought of that. And, you're also right about it being very 'telling' that LOVE wasn't used in the pre-marriage session. I kept wishing that the priest was going to ask Frank to step out of the room so he (Father Ray) could ask her how she truly felt...
helloFromNYC 2 years ago
The only good thing she thought of Frank has just been smashed into pieces. hahaha
Olivia, the woman behind the curtain, pulling on all the strings.
So now in Nat's eyes, basically all those romantic gestures that seemed to be made by Frank, were coming from Olivia. and THAT my friends changes a lot of things.
kaitlinn33 2 years ago 19
is natalia going to her own hanging...a blind person could see she is not into marrying frank
countess77 2 years ago 5
Finally the truth comes to light! Must have been that candle!!
Yes its true, OLIVIA gave you all those hot tips Frank, thanks for finally admitting it!!
Natalia~Olivia is the one who knows all your favorites and your moods!! She wuvs you!!!!
alexolivia007 2 years ago 13
Yeah wow... you could just see the wheels spinning when Nat found out that Liv was behind all those "special moments".
And then to say she believes in marriage and family, it was like if Nat said it out loud maybe she would believe it.
I gotta admit I would be a little pissed if I was Nat at Liv (though Nat is in super denial right now) I would be like, "come on!" The dinners, the Rafe visits! Really!!! And I finding out now! Plus, Liv is the one who told Nat to marry Frank.
giasony99 2 years ago 3
I am absolutely floored by Natalia's reaction to finding out that Cyrano d'Olivia was behind every chivalrous act that Frank performed. It was like a gradual "...Ooo...sshh****t...." dawning over Natalia's reality check horizon.
astabasta63 2 years ago 8
I don't think I have ever cried watching a soap lol but this one I am like a bawling 3 year old through almost the entire episode today!
Ot4li4Ifall 2 years ago 7