This is about the description: Horses are raced young because that is their prime.8 Bells was a tragedy but that's how horse racing and horses in general go.
) and the dressage style horse, (a big black gelding) was in the lead! We were told many times, we should package the water from that well. You and I couldn't drink it, it was so mineralized. But, that seemed to be the key to it's benefits..
We bought a wonderful "dressage" horse at the "cutters", but he proved to be lame in his left knee. We put him out with the rest of the herd (12 in all) for the winter, and he couldn't keep up with them in the beginning. In the springtime, we went out to the ranch in preparation for the "summer/falling" of the land in preparation for sewing the winter wheat, the following fall, and, behold, the horses came running up when we called them (they knew we would grain them
These horses were very strong and fit. The unfit ones that wouldn't last through the harsh winters were sold to the "cutters".
We have raised horses in the "Golden Triangle" of Montana - Calgary and their source of water was our well.. The farriers always complained as to the hardness of these horses' hooves. I believe they had stronger bones, too. We let these horses run all winter and stand belly deep in the snow.
There is a horse breeder in Montana, whose ranch sits on the old Blackfoot Indian mission, just outside of Cascade, Montana. When I lived there in the 70s he used to breed horses and release them to the ranch, which consisted of steep hills, etc. The horses were basically "wild" and he would round them up, break them for racing, and take the ones that showed the most promise after age 2, and would run them at the Great Falls Fairgrounds.
this accident couldnt be prevented. R.I.P eight bells. it could of happend in a pasture or anywhere else but it didnt.in a pasture there could be a hole in the ground and she could of tripped and broken her front ankles.
@horsefanatic315 I totally agree with you.And i've seen it first hand.A friend of mine had a gelding snap his leg in a pasture and they had to put him down onsite because the break was too severe
I like this video and horse racing is just part of life,we can try 2 change that but nobody is gonna listen on the racing board,Eight Bells did not deserve this she was an ANGEL!
I like horse racing, but those involved do race them too young. All horses turn one on some day in January weather they are a few months old or not, can only be so old for some races noteable trainers are very protective of these horses, and treat them with the best of care, (lots of money is invested in them). But some X race horses may end up in a bad situation. You can't change the sport but I am sure champ Eight Bells was treated like a champ, but was injured like any athlete may be.
thank you it isnt always about money n sadly some of theese things happen did u see the scratch of i want revenge the morning of the derby he was the fav n his owners SCRATCHED HIM FOR HIS BEST INTEREST cuz of a swollen ankle i got to comend them
thats why they shouldnt have them damb races.its nothing but a bunch of ppl that just want to make money and dont care what happens to the horses as long as they get theit money. all horses want is to be loved and go on rides and gallop threw a open feild. i think ppl that do horse races should rot in hell
um i want to be a trainer and owner and i would never over race or put my own profit over the horses health this years derby the FREAKING FAVORITE i want revenge was scratched because of a swollen ankle he was walking fine there was nothing on x rays but they scratched him for his best intrest and how is tht wanting money over what happens to the horse
and a horses could just as easily break its leg i a feild if there is a hole uneven ground a rock a bad step who knows they could just rear up n come down wrong or try to jump a fence n theese could all lead to broke legs im sorry but u have no freaking idea what u are talking about
Honey, there is a HUGE difference in running on the track and runnning freely, in a field or something, for one,on the track they go so fast its not even funny.
And as for racing too young...Horses start running minutes after they are born. A horse will naturally run at full speed to escape a preditar, or just having fun, as my horses do it all the time. So if they naturally run well before even having a reached their first year, why is it bad to have them do the same thing with a rider on board? Should we just lock up young horses and prevent them from running because there is a RISK that something could go wrong?
Is that what you call "running a few minutes after they're born"? It's pretty blatantly obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about, and have likely never ridden a horse, let alone raised one. If you did, you would know that Eight Bell's growth plates hadn't firmed up yet, as no horse's has by that age.
Also, pay attention. The maker of this video never called for an end to racing, just an end to racing them so young. Try reading.
actually, it was determined that the filly had a heartattack and that caused her to collapse, and that in turn caused the broken ankles. And they race horses at a year old and most of them never break a leg. Race horses are not cruely treated. They are some of the most pampered animals in the world. What happened was an accident that in no way could have been prevented. This could have happened just as easily if she were running in a pasture by herself.
Horses like other pets are prone to giving themeselves to their owners with every ounce of thier being. and in doing so they enrich the lives of those around them. There is no doubt that Eight Bells enriched teh lives of the people that knew her. She was a champion. There is no discussion about whether putting her down was the right thing to do- it was the only thing to do - every pet owner has teh burden of protecting their friend from that suffering.
but they shouldnt have been raceing her in the first place its not right to make a horse run as fast as she can to the point where she breaks her legs.
@lorenrobinett3151992 racehorses are bred to race and run and if you coop them up in a stall because of an injury,they get upset.in fact some racehorses have to go BACK to the track after retirement so that they don't get hurt
As a horse owner and recently having to put a beautiful 6yr old double registered Palamino QH mare down 2yrs ago this tribute had me in tears. The background music is one of my absolute favorites. My mare had suffered sever laminitis in both front feet after a bad injury to her hind leg that took a yr to heal. The same reason Barbaro was put down. Even if Eightbells could have survived surgery, her fate would have been the same as Barbaro's. Those of you that don't know horses have no idea.
I think in Eight Belle's case, they did the right thing by euthanizing her on the spot. Her injuries were so severe they would have never even been able to get her off the track and into surgery. She would have suffered tremendously. A bowed tendon is much much different than two compound fractures. I am sure that most trainers and owners dont "kill" their horses lightly. I am not defending them as I believe that many of their meathods and believes are not in the best interests of the horses.
All Im saying is that, I think they should wait a little while before they start running them so hard. I don't even ride my horses till there three and this filly had been running hard races before then.
These horses are athletes. You think that they are being forced to run in races. These animals love racing and competitions and they have really big hearts. You obviously don't know alot about them. Their owners spend millions on them to have the best of everything.
I know they love racing, I work with ex race horses and I have a hard time teaching them other things than running because thats what they ove to do, and yes, there owners do spend a lot of time and money on them, and they ofcourse never want this to happen to there horses but that doesn't change the fact that they are TO YOUNG.
I would like to see horses banned from racing until they are 6. This could be done gradually so as not to bankrupt the stables and breeders. All you have to do is mention "Ruffian", "Barbaro", and now "Eightbells" and I get upset. These are horses that have died at "class" tracks. Imagine how many are put down in smaller circuits, county fairs, etc. I have seen horses die in their stalls after racing, because they gave their all but were not trained or conditioned properly.
@Kewlbob1 Unfortunately the fooble in your plan is that once they get to 5 and over they are actually more at risk of injury... sesamoid bones, soft tissue injuries etc. The system is not the problem... it's ignorance amongst some of the players.
This rarely happens in racing my dear,....It has nothing to do with abuse or not caring about the horse,....Tragic it is but its called life,.....
spookycat113 3 months ago
This is about the description: Horses are raced young because that is their prime.8 Bells was a tragedy but that's how horse racing and horses in general go.
MissMaintree 3 months ago
) and the dressage style horse, (a big black gelding) was in the lead! We were told many times, we should package the water from that well. You and I couldn't drink it, it was so mineralized. But, that seemed to be the key to it's benefits..
Kewlbob1 1 year ago
We bought a wonderful "dressage" horse at the "cutters", but he proved to be lame in his left knee. We put him out with the rest of the herd (12 in all) for the winter, and he couldn't keep up with them in the beginning. In the springtime, we went out to the ranch in preparation for the "summer/falling" of the land in preparation for sewing the winter wheat, the following fall, and, behold, the horses came running up when we called them (they knew we would grain them
Kewlbob1 1 year ago
These horses were very strong and fit. The unfit ones that wouldn't last through the harsh winters were sold to the "cutters".
We have raised horses in the "Golden Triangle" of Montana - Calgary and their source of water was our well.. The farriers always complained as to the hardness of these horses' hooves. I believe they had stronger bones, too. We let these horses run all winter and stand belly deep in the snow.
Kewlbob1 1 year ago
There is a horse breeder in Montana, whose ranch sits on the old Blackfoot Indian mission, just outside of Cascade, Montana. When I lived there in the 70s he used to breed horses and release them to the ranch, which consisted of steep hills, etc. The horses were basically "wild" and he would round them up, break them for racing, and take the ones that showed the most promise after age 2, and would run them at the Great Falls Fairgrounds.
Kewlbob1 1 year ago
I just wish people would spell her name correctly - EIGHT BELLES. With the extra "E"
94gunsmoke 1 year ago
this accident couldnt be prevented. R.I.P eight bells. it could of happend in a pasture or anywhere else but it didnt.in a pasture there could be a hole in the ground and she could of tripped and broken her front ankles.
horsefanatic315 1 year ago
@horsefanatic315 I totally agree with you.And i've seen it first hand.A friend of mine had a gelding snap his leg in a pasture and they had to put him down onsite because the break was too severe
FanOBarbaro 1 year ago
I know her owner from a website
starburst443 1 year ago
I like this video and horse racing is just part of life,we can try 2 change that but nobody is gonna listen on the racing board,Eight Bells did not deserve this she was an ANGEL!
Joelovesmeforever1 2 years ago
First race i watched was this one :(
dragonheart19891 3 years ago
I fell so bad for all the horses that have died because of horse racing.. EIGHT BELLS WAS SO CUTE!!
Jumper88London 3 years ago
@Jumper88London Eight Belles, spell her name right
94gunsmoke 1 year ago
I like horse racing, but those involved do race them too young. All horses turn one on some day in January weather they are a few months old or not, can only be so old for some races noteable trainers are very protective of these horses, and treat them with the best of care, (lots of money is invested in them). But some X race horses may end up in a bad situation. You can't change the sport but I am sure champ Eight Bells was treated like a champ, but was injured like any athlete may be.
Carefree526 3 years ago
thank you it isnt always about money n sadly some of theese things happen did u see the scratch of i want revenge the morning of the derby he was the fav n his owners SCRATCHED HIM FOR HIS BEST INTEREST cuz of a swollen ankle i got to comend them
runwildnfree 2 years ago
thats why they shouldnt have them damb races.its nothing but a bunch of ppl that just want to make money and dont care what happens to the horses as long as they get theit money. all horses want is to be loved and go on rides and gallop threw a open feild. i think ppl that do horse races should rot in hell
lorenrobinett3151992 3 years ago
um i want to be a trainer and owner and i would never over race or put my own profit over the horses health this years derby the FREAKING FAVORITE i want revenge was scratched because of a swollen ankle he was walking fine there was nothing on x rays but they scratched him for his best intrest and how is tht wanting money over what happens to the horse
runwildnfree 2 years ago
and a horses could just as easily break its leg i a feild if there is a hole uneven ground a rock a bad step who knows they could just rear up n come down wrong or try to jump a fence n theese could all lead to broke legs im sorry but u have no freaking idea what u are talking about
runwildnfree 2 years ago
poor thing...=(
SoniicFan15 3 years ago
Honey, there is a HUGE difference in running on the track and runnning freely, in a field or something, for one,on the track they go so fast its not even funny.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
um..honey. I have worked at a track. I have been the one who works the horses out. And, I own former race horses. I know exactly how it is.
honjlh 3 years ago 3
Im not argueing with someone as obviously ignorant as you.
If you want to believe that lie, than thats your choice.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
oh my god im trying to not like you because of your video bashing earlier but i agree with you.
racing sucks.
rodeogirl92HORSES 3 years ago
@rodeogirl92HORSES And rodeo doesn't?
94gunsmoke 1 year ago
And as for racing too young...Horses start running minutes after they are born. A horse will naturally run at full speed to escape a preditar, or just having fun, as my horses do it all the time. So if they naturally run well before even having a reached their first year, why is it bad to have them do the same thing with a rider on board? Should we just lock up young horses and prevent them from running because there is a RISK that something could go wrong?
honjlh 3 years ago
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Is that what you call "running a few minutes after they're born"? It's pretty blatantly obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about, and have likely never ridden a horse, let alone raised one. If you did, you would know that Eight Bell's growth plates hadn't firmed up yet, as no horse's has by that age.
Also, pay attention. The maker of this video never called for an end to racing, just an end to racing them so young. Try reading.
Mishyana 3 years ago
actually, it was determined that the filly had a heartattack and that caused her to collapse, and that in turn caused the broken ankles. And they race horses at a year old and most of them never break a leg. Race horses are not cruely treated. They are some of the most pampered animals in the world. What happened was an accident that in no way could have been prevented. This could have happened just as easily if she were running in a pasture by herself.
honjlh 3 years ago
Well its obvious you haven't ever worked on a track, because you simply just have no idea what happens there.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
She didnt have a heart attack. The necropsy ruled it out. There was no stroke, heart attack, or anything like that. She just broke down.
Ruffian4Ever 3 years ago
she had a habbit of clipping her own heels comming off the pace and she did that day and this time it broke them
runwildnfree 2 years ago
horses are just starting to be trained at a year the arent broke till about a yr n a half n they dont start racing till two
runwildnfree 2 years ago
@runwildnfree True
94gunsmoke 1 year ago
@honjlh So true. Sadly it could not have been prevented.
94gunsmoke 1 year ago
eight belles was gorgeaous it really kindof stinks that they put her down. and your right it is a cruel manipulative sport with a good name
rixipup 3 years ago
Horses like other pets are prone to giving themeselves to their owners with every ounce of thier being. and in doing so they enrich the lives of those around them. There is no doubt that Eight Bells enriched teh lives of the people that knew her. She was a champion. There is no discussion about whether putting her down was the right thing to do- it was the only thing to do - every pet owner has teh burden of protecting their friend from that suffering.
arcbc30 3 years ago
but they shouldnt have been raceing her in the first place its not right to make a horse run as fast as she can to the point where she breaks her legs.
lorenrobinett3151992 3 years ago
she clipped her heels and then went down thts what hapened a freak accident
runwildnfree 2 years ago
@lorenrobinett3151992 racehorses are bred to race and run and if you coop them up in a stall because of an injury,they get upset.in fact some racehorses have to go BACK to the track after retirement so that they don't get hurt
FanOBarbaro 1 year ago
As a horse owner and recently having to put a beautiful 6yr old double registered Palamino QH mare down 2yrs ago this tribute had me in tears. The background music is one of my absolute favorites. My mare had suffered sever laminitis in both front feet after a bad injury to her hind leg that took a yr to heal. The same reason Barbaro was put down. Even if Eightbells could have survived surgery, her fate would have been the same as Barbaro's. Those of you that don't know horses have no idea.
PhantomQH 3 years ago 2
you happy greedy mother fuckers?
skirbyr 3 years ago
I suppose that was to her owners?
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
I think in Eight Belle's case, they did the right thing by euthanizing her on the spot. Her injuries were so severe they would have never even been able to get her off the track and into surgery. She would have suffered tremendously. A bowed tendon is much much different than two compound fractures. I am sure that most trainers and owners dont "kill" their horses lightly. I am not defending them as I believe that many of their meathods and believes are not in the best interests of the horses.
bdb61281 3 years ago
Yes I agree, they had to put her down, theres no way they would have been able to do anything about those injurys.
I don't think they are out to kill thre horses or anything, I just think there running them too younge.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
Dude I know.
All Im saying is that, I think they should wait a little while before they start running them so hard. I don't even ride my horses till there three and this filly had been running hard races before then.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
These horses are athletes. You think that they are being forced to run in races. These animals love racing and competitions and they have really big hearts. You obviously don't know alot about them. Their owners spend millions on them to have the best of everything.
gg00080 3 years ago
I know they love racing, I work with ex race horses and I have a hard time teaching them other things than running because thats what they ove to do, and yes, there owners do spend a lot of time and money on them, and they ofcourse never want this to happen to there horses but that doesn't change the fact that they are TO YOUNG.
Thats the only problem I have with racing.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
I would like to see horses banned from racing until they are 6. This could be done gradually so as not to bankrupt the stables and breeders. All you have to do is mention "Ruffian", "Barbaro", and now "Eightbells" and I get upset. These are horses that have died at "class" tracks. Imagine how many are put down in smaller circuits, county fairs, etc. I have seen horses die in their stalls after racing, because they gave their all but were not trained or conditioned properly.
Kewlbob1 3 years ago 4
Thats exacly how I feel.
It just seems ridiculus to race them so young.
Thank you for the comment.
Gabbagail1 3 years ago
@Kewlbob1 Unfortunately the fooble in your plan is that once they get to 5 and over they are actually more at risk of injury... sesamoid bones, soft tissue injuries etc. The system is not the problem... it's ignorance amongst some of the players.
bgardiner2000 1 year ago