It's Me or the Dog: Leashing

[nellie2581]

Too many dogs

[nellie2581]

Victoria is a great expert and trainer

[aguliay]

If I were a dog, I would see Cesar as my King and Victoria as my Queen. They both different, but they both are two great great great pack leaders.

[ProphetGuardian]

I hate how people are using Victoria's videos to bash Ceasar Millan (or vice versa). Anyone who makes any nasty comments about either person has no clue about dog training and psychology. Ceasar's technique are not at all abussive neither does Victoria's technique's turn you into a door mat. Without Victoria house breaking would be a pain. Without Ceasar my dog would probably be tearing into me right now. Both of them teach us to be calm and assertive.

[jadeKemmaO]

holly shit!

[DOSSENIA]

i coul never hit my dogs, they only need patience, love, perseverance, a healthy meal, and excercise, I followed Victoria training and works great, training is for ever as love.

[DOSSENIA]

each person is unique, Victoria had help me a lot, to understand my dogs, she doesnt use agression touch in her training, and if we are patience we see results. TY Victoria

[ruzzzler]

@DOSSENIA do you reall have dogs?? i have always had 3 dogs in my family for as long as i can remember *and no we haven't found the fountain of youth we just adopt a new one each time one passes away* 95% of the time you wont be able to train a dog her way, the best thing to make dogs behave is 1 you should have room for your dog no small kennels! *im not telln you, just jerks who lock theyer dogs in small boxes an tuck them away* 2 exorcise makes for a happy pet an trainable 1 ....

[ruzzzler]

@DOSSENIA and lastly some times you just have to whip your dog, just like a kid *i can hear the gasps and angry crys from overly sensitive nutts already, dogs dont often dwell unless it was something traumatizing or recent* paddling your dog is for the safety of, yourself, your dog and even your neighbors.

[kailamurphy990]

they are going crazy cuz that fat bitch needs a walk

[MsZoraZ]

Cesar Milan is all hype. "He makes amazing transformations!" Yeah. Great. Now my dog is afraid of me. BS. If you have a proper bond with your dog, he should listen to you anyhow. And if your dog doesn't listen to you, he's probably confused about what you want or simply doesn't respect you. Respect doesn't have to be painful!

[ruzzzler]

@MsZoraZ he is a complete fake but he does have a few good tips *just a few* these tv dog trainers r crap some one should put a leash on them....

[Drummerbaby66]

I love her:) It's funny though, how people bash both her and Cesar.They just have different techniques, they both have their own strategies and according to the results of all different kinds of breeds and behaviors that they work with, they both do a very good job.

[midgetgem1506]

for a start you shouldnt allow your dog to leave the house before you, 

[MrTacomalover]

Her technique is awesome! Victoria's competitor Cesar Milan.

[fattyfatfat12689]

i love her...i have learned to train my dog, because of her.

[chelseatxc3]

shut up everyone! your all dumb c*#ts!

[ArtCrimeLog]

There is no huge difference in what both Cesar and Victoria are doing. He creates boundaries, works with praise and correction alike, and she is does the same thing but calls it a different name. Time-outs, etc, are correction. Also, what she calls a "leader" Cesar calls it's true name-an alpha dog in a pack. He knows how the pack of canines works, that doesn't change no matter what year it is. Not every dog can respond to PRAISE only. Cesar makes sure corrections matter as much as praise.

[keeg021985]

@ArtCrimeLog Only someone seriously impoverished intellectually would assert that 'there is no huge difference in what both Cesar and Victoria are doing.'  Have you actually carefully watched these two? The answer is either: No, you haven't, or, yes, you have, but are ignorant of training techniques and dog behavior, thus you make an assertion based in that ignorance. Also, dogs are NOT pack animals, and the concept of an 'alpha' dog is erroneous. Do some research next time before you write.

[hidenseeker424]

@keeg021985 Actually, taking a look at both Cesar's and Victoria's techniques for leashing nervous or excited dogs, they are generally the same: the dog doesn't get to go anywhere until he's calm and respectful of your space. And dogs do, in fact, respond to a strong leader. Maybe leaning on the "alpha dog" metaphor as Cesar does seems a little strange for people, but calm, assertive behavior that commands respect works much better than being "kind" or "humane" to your dogs.

[keeg021985]

@hidenseeker424 JAYZUS! Did you read my comment to ArtCrimeLog? If so, read it again; if not, read it: it's my response to you. Add to it: I wish there was a device that could hook to the brain and stop people from commenting on subjects they have no knowledge or experience in. The world would be a lot more intelligent sounding.

[hidenseeker424]

@keeg021985 At which point do I become "qualified" enough for you? I have trained 3 dogs from aggressive behavior to calm, respectful behavior; all of these instances happened before the age of 18. What makes YOU so qualified to be telling me that I don't know what I'm doing? The basic principle of needing a dog to respect your space and your leadership does, in fact, work. It has worked on every dog I have ever encountered, including those that I have just met. Cesar and Victoria...

[keeg021985]

@hidenseeker424 Let's see: I have a B.S. in biochemistry, and M.S. in comparative animal behavior, and I'm in a doctoral program in canine ethology and applied animal behavior. I'm also a graduate of the renowned SFSPCA's Academy for Dog Trainers (which sadly graduated its last class last year), where I studied with Jean Donaldson, and I'm also a CPDT-KA1. Dogs do need guidance to learn how to live in human society, but they DON'T need the force-based methods of Cesar.

[xnemoooooox]

@keeg021985 They dont need the force based methods, when they are balanced. Unbalanced dogs that will try to eat your hand off need leadership, not treats.

[keeg021985]

@xnemoooooox You've watched too much of the former hairdresser, Milan. Perhaps you should read a book on the science of animal behavior, and read a book by a real dog behaviorist ---someone like Jean Donaldson or Ian Dunbar. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

[hidenseeker424]

@keeg021985 ...approach training differently, yes, but on the specific topic of leashing, I HAVE watched both shows extensively, and they DO use the same basic principles: reward dog with leashing once he is calm and out of a frenzied, unfocused state.

[keeg021985]

@hidenseeker424 Cesar, like most every uneducated dog trainer, relies on the completely misunderstood concept of dominance to inform them. You don't need advanced degrees in behavioral science to absorb and apply the knowledge. The best trainer I know does not have a college degree, although he did also graduate from the Academy; however, he constantly researches the latest science related to how dogs learn, and then he applies it. Cesar has NO credentials, and is 'dominance' addicted.

[pnkrk1039]

@keeg021985 So true.

When people don't know anything about animal behavior they resort to: "establish that you're the alpha dog."

That's not how it works.

[keeg021985]

@hidenseeker424 If you really want to start on the path to learning something about dogs, start with Jean Donaldson's classic, The Culture Clash, and turn off Cesar.

[sarah4life050399]

@ArtCrimeLog Funny, because I've never heard that man utter a word of praise.

[lrigyrtnuocyelyah]

she looks really pretty in this

[gschjetne]

Cesar doesn't understand dogs. He manipulates them with physical and psychological violence.

[brenyboy26]

is there literally trollers in every one of these videos, all i here about i millan, victoria, cesar, victoria, blah blah, who cares, they have there own training methods. Cesar has a very different approach to dog behaviour that some people unfortunatly find too confronting. You really need to understand the logic behind these dog trainers decisions before you critsise.

[keeg021985]

@brenyboy26 So, people that deliver comments based on their knowledge are 'trollers?" Wow, you must believe that no one should comment about anything, eh? So, why are you commenting about the comments? Cesar has an approach, but it is diametrically opposed to the SCIENCE of how dogs learn. I have an MS in comparative animal behavior and I'm a CPDT also. I know what I'm talking about. Cesar's using methods developed in the 20s-50s, and those methods have been shown to be wrong. Period.

[keeg021985]

@brenyboy26 I guess if I were to say that I'm just going to ignore the massive volumes of evidence that prove the scientific theory of evolution by natural selection, in favor of an idea without any evidence, such as creationism, then is that also ok because I have a "different approach?"

[keeg021985]

@brenyboy26 Cesar has NO credentials or formal education in dog training or behavior, whereas Victoria does. Cesar pushes himself off as a 'behaviorist' also, yet in my field, one has to have a MINIMUM of a graduate level degree in animal behavior or one of its applied components to call oneself a 'behaviorist.' Typically, they would have a Ph.D. Cesar was a hairdresser who became friends with a couple celebrities that funded him. He's set modern dog training back 40 years.

[rockythepain]

plz could someone tell me what breed is the white hairy dog!!plzz!

[wackyweed57]

@rockythepain most likley a bichon frise

[xxxFaustusxxx]

This seems like a copy of the dog whisperer.

[AU043223]

it's animalplanetTV they advertise this show dumbass

[keeg021985]

This is nothing like Milan. Victoria actually does know some of the science behind modifying dog behavior, whereas Milan knows as much as the frog in my backyard.

[sye117]

@keeg021985

you have a frog in yer backyard?

[keeg021985]

@Gordzila19 You write like a moron, and, based on your videos, it appears you look like a moron too. At the least, you're fairly unattractive and overweight. The only decent looking guy was the slim one playing the xylophone. He can suck my face any day.

[Gordzila19]

@keeg021985 wait are you a girl?

[keeg021985]

@Gordzila19 Nope, an Irish queer.

[Gordzila19]

@keeg021985 What?

[keeg021985]

@Gordzila19 Queer; gay; fag, homo; boy-boy on; etc...

[Gordzila19]

@keeg021985 ? umm okay:/

[phabbiola]

@keeg021985 bah

[SantaValium]

@keeg021985 Cesar is a dog behaviorist and works with dogs showing them leadership and love, by training the owners and rehabilitate dogs to adapt to how it should be.

[ChurtleSnap]

@SantaValium Have yet to see the love in any of his episodes. 

[mariegoslar]

@keeg021985 Couldn't agree more. c:

[MsZoraZ]

@xxxFaustusxxx How the heck...?

[slygirls09]

whoa chaos! i should do that when i with my dog josh

[Broetchen4me]

lol this is a handfull..;-) but it seems to work..;.-) very cool