This piece works far better with a conductor, and with the Concertino players leading the orchestra. Conductors often impede the music making in chamber music ---- and I say this as a conductor.
Well, okay, maybe it's far from perfect. It's just a high school orchestra. I've got to give them credit for doing this. They're not all that bad for a high school orchestra. By the way, which Cooper High School is this since there are more than one Cooper High Schools in the U.S.?
Yo ya toqué ese concierto con la orquesta en la que estoy y si, es difícil!! sobre todo por ser música barroca, pero en realidad todo aquel que lo haya tocado merece un merito especial, aunque no suene perfecto, hay que reconocer el trabajo de cada orquesta y a mi en lo particular me parece que son muy jovenes!! por esa razón los felicito =) y deseo que sigan esforzandose pese a las fallas que pueda haber.. nadie somos musicos perfectos, asi que para adelante siempre y llegaran lejos!
@shakingguy Yo ya toqué ese concierto con la orquesta en la que estoy y si, es difícil!! sobre todo por ser música barroca, pero en realidad todo aquel que lo haya tocado merece un merito especial, aunque no suene perfecto, hay que reconocer el trabajo de cada orquesta y a mi en lo particular me parece que son muy jovenes!! por esa razón los felicito =) y deseo que sigan esforzandose pese a las fallas que pueda haber.. nadie somos musicos perfectos!! ANIMO!
Though normally I don't care about this too much with amateur groups playing baroque, I have to say one must keep vibrato to a minimum in Corelli. The suspensions (which he uses alot) don't work properly with heavy vibrato. It sounds thin and nervous.
Pff I bet ur just some loser whose texting an even bigger loser and ur both so lame I bet you both even made up nicknames for each other like panda and penguin gawd u make mi sick! :D<3
Yo ya toqué ese concierto con la orquesta en la que estoy y si, es difícil!! sobre todo por ser música barroca, pero en realidad todo aquel que lo haya tocado merece un merito especial, aunque no suene perfecto, hay que reconocer el trabajo de cada orquesta y a mi en lo particular me parece que son muy jovenes!! por esa razón los felicito =) y deseo que sigan esforzandose pese a las fallas que pueda haber.. nadie somos musicos perfectos!! ANIMO!
lol don't bag on them...we played this and we sounded worst...they're just high school kids...probably in the class to get through some credit requirement lol
most of it is out of tune, especially the two soloists, but it's still good for a HS orchestra. you couldn't hear the violas at all, and the Adagio was too loud.
Ew that beginning part was N A S T Y. It's supposed to be Grand and large! I suppose that's the conductor's fault though She's really bad. No movement, just up and down beats. I feel sorry for the students. We're playing this for our county orchestra. we sound MUCH better. Soloists are kinda out of tune....Violas could be A LOT louder. and more in tune. Yuck...Open A's...I am ashamed, as I play viola. They could have done MUCH better.
Some of the comments up here are harsh, but with some I agree. The intonation is way off. I cant hear the soloists half the time because the orchestra is waaaaay to loud.
Also the style of this is completely wrong. Corelli was Baroque era so it shouldnt be so legato and hanging. It should have posture and be bright and springy.
It's a good try, but it needs work, and I hope you do work on it, because it could sound amazing
The cello section did a really great job, I could still totally hear them even though the violin was more noticeable. Even though it was a small orchestra it was still really great...but, I do think you need to work on your intonation--the cello soloist especially. I'm playing this piece with my youth orchestra. (I'm in cello, I might be playing the cello solo! I'm first chair.) GOOD JOB GUYS, IT WAS REALLY GOOD!
I have to say, the orchestra plays really well together, but the soloists need to relax a little bit. This style of music does sound very tense and strong, but if you play it tense and too strong, it'll kill it. You have to be super gentle and totaly relaxed and thinking beautiful sound. Lovely orchestra though.
It's a shame that orchestra completely drowned out the soloists in tutti sections of the Adagio. It's one of the most beautiful slow movements in Baroque music.
Love your comments. But have listened to this and loved it for many years. Love this version. Can't even begin to imagine playing it myself. GREAT JOB ON THIS. I love it whenever I hear it. If I could play it even half as well, I'd be thrilled. Great job, indeed!! :)) !! LOVE IT!!
interpretation needs serious work especially the adagio part, needs to have a distinct difference between allegro portion where 2nd violins have melody, BALENCE pleasee
This is supposed to be a light piece, with NO vibrato. I think that's one of the main things that ruin it, I'm playing this at my highschool and it sounds way better w/ none. 1st violinist, you came in with this huge accent at the beginning of the 2nd movement, that's a no no. Violinists as a whole, work on intonation. Cellists sounds high, bassists and violists sound acceptable to me. Soloists, watch your entrances. Remember, light! No vibrato. I hope you guys work on this, good luck.
There was no feeling in it at all! The intonation needed work, no dynamics, the speed in the allegro was way, WAY to slow. He wrote it that way so the melody shifts between parts seamlessly. The performance definitely could be improved upon.
Though it really is the teachers fault for picking a piece that the students could not play WELL, the players should have listened to CD's to know how to play this concerto. But just take what I say as something to help you. But really a bunch of 6th-8th graders played this way better, do you feel no shame?
But really how can a high school actually play like this? If my middle school played like this my conductor would have stopped use, and either make us restart or not play at all(in a concert)Your conductor should not have let you play this, because it is obviously to hard for you.
But the real question is.... do you guys realize how out of tune it is? Also when the cellists and the violinists switched positions you could hear a horrible slur. The 1st violinist should have been more of a leader, and had no excuse to make so many mistakes.
Wow......and you are a high school orchestra? My middle school played this....and way better. Please actually listen to what me and other people say. The 1st violinist was out played by the 2nd which isn't saying much anyway. The basses over powered everything, most of it was out of tune, and the sound of the violin soloists was ear piercing. Even the conductor was bad.
It could have used some more work. The violin soloists were rather piercing. Not in a good way, in case you were wondering. They should have spent more time on intonation, too.
Grave's too fast.
nhitrinh09 3 months ago
Please, please, Allegro allegro!!! (part1)
The Academy of Ancient Music best forever!!!
szalayrichardnak 4 months ago
When the bass player looks up at his fingers to see the note, I realized that it was not going to get any better.
maxhanson712 4 months ago 3
This piece works far better with a conductor, and with the Concertino players leading the orchestra. Conductors often impede the music making in chamber music ---- and I say this as a conductor.
Symphoniconductor 4 months ago
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Symphoniconductor 4 months ago
Well, okay, maybe it's far from perfect. It's just a high school orchestra. I've got to give them credit for doing this. They're not all that bad for a high school orchestra. By the way, which Cooper High School is this since there are more than one Cooper High Schools in the U.S.?
Joseph3044 1 year ago
Well... Maybe the reason it hurts is because they're playing on period instruments! :P
supermanadamio 1 year ago
Baroc has no vibrato
Suellensimons 1 year ago
it hurts omg
madaraszi 1 year ago
Eeek the conductor dies it so roboticly
narutorasengantube 1 year ago
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miishable 1 year ago
Yo ya toqué ese concierto con la orquesta en la que estoy y si, es difícil!! sobre todo por ser música barroca, pero en realidad todo aquel que lo haya tocado merece un merito especial, aunque no suene perfecto, hay que reconocer el trabajo de cada orquesta y a mi en lo particular me parece que son muy jovenes!! por esa razón los felicito =) y deseo que sigan esforzandose pese a las fallas que pueda haber.. nadie somos musicos perfectos, asi que para adelante siempre y llegaran lejos!
miishable 1 year ago
intonation.
hpwratvr18 1 year ago
o mio dio
biagioantonio1960 1 year ago
I just think it sounds a little rushed.
SG14ever 2 years ago
Ouch! Not the orchestra's fault, but the conductor has not understood *anything* about this Concerto...
etienne1967 2 years ago
HORRIBLE !!!!!!!
shakingguy 2 years ago
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@shakingguy Yo ya toqué ese concierto con la orquesta en la que estoy y si, es difícil!! sobre todo por ser música barroca, pero en realidad todo aquel que lo haya tocado merece un merito especial, aunque no suene perfecto, hay que reconocer el trabajo de cada orquesta y a mi en lo particular me parece que son muy jovenes!! por esa razón los felicito =) y deseo que sigan esforzandose pese a las fallas que pueda haber.. nadie somos musicos perfectos!! ANIMO!
miishable 1 year ago
Though normally I don't care about this too much with amateur groups playing baroque, I have to say one must keep vibrato to a minimum in Corelli. The suspensions (which he uses alot) don't work properly with heavy vibrato. It sounds thin and nervous.
HARMONICO101 2 years ago 2
I could not have said this any better.
m8roth 2 years ago
Shut up penguin! I uh mean person ;D Lmfaoooo thts not true at all :DD
NaturalNikki4253 2 years ago
I'm a cellist. I'm in 7th grade. we're playing this exact piece right now and we've nearly got it perfect :D sort of xD I have the Cello Solo :DDD
NaturalNikki4253 2 years ago
Pff I bet ur just some loser whose texting an even bigger loser and ur both so lame I bet you both even made up nicknames for each other like panda and penguin gawd u make mi sick! :D<3
casper9042 2 years ago
cello soloist is sounding as if she's pinching at the strings and the sound isn't coming out fully
Christherpiper 2 years ago
No movement.
tSGuardians 2 years ago 2
That sharp is terrifying.
nicewiththeRhythm 2 years ago 7
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Yo ya toqué ese concierto con la orquesta en la que estoy y si, es difícil!! sobre todo por ser música barroca, pero en realidad todo aquel que lo haya tocado merece un merito especial, aunque no suene perfecto, hay que reconocer el trabajo de cada orquesta y a mi en lo particular me parece que son muy jovenes!! por esa razón los felicito =) y deseo que sigan esforzandose pese a las fallas que pueda haber.. nadie somos musicos perfectos!! ANIMO!
miishable 1 year ago
complimenti da un giovane violinista italiano appassionato di corelli e di vivaldi
favaracity 2 years ago
the cello solo is incredibly hard! i played it and oh wow lol it wasnt that bad
MiMiJaMsKaTe 2 years ago
eh.. a bit too much vibrato and you ought to work on your intonation
firebreathone2 2 years ago 7
lol don't bag on them...we played this and we sounded worst...they're just high school kids...probably in the class to get through some credit requirement lol
N0VAJ 3 years ago
most of it is out of tune, especially the two soloists, but it's still good for a HS orchestra. you couldn't hear the violas at all, and the Adagio was too loud.
SPARTAN118mj 3 years ago 2
Ew that beginning part was N A S T Y. It's supposed to be Grand and large! I suppose that's the conductor's fault though She's really bad. No movement, just up and down beats. I feel sorry for the students. We're playing this for our county orchestra. we sound MUCH better. Soloists are kinda out of tune....Violas could be A LOT louder. and more in tune. Yuck...Open A's...I am ashamed, as I play viola. They could have done MUCH better.
RavenGirl84 3 years ago
Also they need to work on their dynamics, it was really just all loud, no soft. Just. loud.
RavenGirl84 3 years ago 2
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jaschweigert 2 years ago
ehm.. it was a lil out of tune. but overall it was great.
erasers1195 3 years ago
it was nice for a hs orchestra :D
...............soloist should ..... not be so stuff? especially the girl
not... musical enough. no feelings.
mybabypooh01 3 years ago
The Allegro should be a bit faster.
Still needs work but it wasn't so bad.
SailorCookieMafia 3 years ago
if referring to intonation, but it still was very good
folgersfolgers 3 years ago
something was wrong with 2nd violin
LiberateEireIRA 3 years ago
you mean the 1st violin on the first movement allegro.
folgersfolgers 3 years ago
no i meant 2nd dude, the boy
LiberateEireIRA 3 years ago
this is pretty good for a HS orchestra
twiddle7125 3 years ago
The boy soloist's pinky finger was straight the whole time it drove me insane
floridadude47 3 years ago
Some of the comments up here are harsh, but with some I agree. The intonation is way off. I cant hear the soloists half the time because the orchestra is waaaaay to loud.
Also the style of this is completely wrong. Corelli was Baroque era so it shouldnt be so legato and hanging. It should have posture and be bright and springy.
It's a good try, but it needs work, and I hope you do work on it, because it could sound amazing
felcin 3 years ago
The cello section did a really great job, I could still totally hear them even though the violin was more noticeable. Even though it was a small orchestra it was still really great...but, I do think you need to work on your intonation--the cello soloist especially. I'm playing this piece with my youth orchestra. (I'm in cello, I might be playing the cello solo! I'm first chair.) GOOD JOB GUYS, IT WAS REALLY GOOD!
chloeshoko 3 years ago
EXCELENTE
checo64 3 years ago
I have to say, the orchestra plays really well together, but the soloists need to relax a little bit. This style of music does sound very tense and strong, but if you play it tense and too strong, it'll kill it. You have to be super gentle and totaly relaxed and thinking beautiful sound. Lovely orchestra though.
lalobaloo 3 years ago
It's a shame that orchestra completely drowned out the soloists in tutti sections of the Adagio. It's one of the most beautiful slow movements in Baroque music.
HARMONICO101 3 years ago
Not too fast. Have heard this for 30 plus years and it's exactly right. I love this version. Kudos to all of you.
barbkaus 3 years ago
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tempo was too fast
chuchuchurruuuu 3 years ago
Love your comments. But have listened to this and loved it for many years. Love this version. Can't even begin to imagine playing it myself. GREAT JOB ON THIS. I love it whenever I hear it. If I could play it even half as well, I'd be thrilled. Great job, indeed!! :)) !! LOVE IT!!
barbkaus 4 years ago
interpretation needs serious work especially the adagio part, needs to have a distinct difference between allegro portion where 2nd violins have melody, BALENCE pleasee
jonsurfer01 4 years ago
This is supposed to be a light piece, with NO vibrato. I think that's one of the main things that ruin it, I'm playing this at my highschool and it sounds way better w/ none. 1st violinist, you came in with this huge accent at the beginning of the 2nd movement, that's a no no. Violinists as a whole, work on intonation. Cellists sounds high, bassists and violists sound acceptable to me. Soloists, watch your entrances. Remember, light! No vibrato. I hope you guys work on this, good luck.
izzomizzo 4 years ago
It...it feels dead...
diemcos 4 years ago 2
the violoncelli were too high...it sounds quite bad unfortunately. PRACTISE
Bassguitar84 4 years ago
There was no feeling in it at all! The intonation needed work, no dynamics, the speed in the allegro was way, WAY to slow. He wrote it that way so the melody shifts between parts seamlessly. The performance definitely could be improved upon.
celliguy2000 4 years ago
And for the 1st violinist- you really need to work on intonation, because even the beginning of the Allegro was not in tune.
Hal243Music 4 years ago
Though it really is the teachers fault for picking a piece that the students could not play WELL, the players should have listened to CD's to know how to play this concerto. But just take what I say as something to help you. But really a bunch of 6th-8th graders played this way better, do you feel no shame?
Hal243Music 4 years ago
But really how can a high school actually play like this? If my middle school played like this my conductor would have stopped use, and either make us restart or not play at all(in a concert)Your conductor should not have let you play this, because it is obviously to hard for you.
Hal243Music 4 years ago
But the real question is.... do you guys realize how out of tune it is? Also when the cellists and the violinists switched positions you could hear a horrible slur. The 1st violinist should have been more of a leader, and had no excuse to make so many mistakes.
Hal243Music 4 years ago
Wow......and you are a high school orchestra? My middle school played this....and way better. Please actually listen to what me and other people say. The 1st violinist was out played by the 2nd which isn't saying much anyway. The basses over powered everything, most of it was out of tune, and the sound of the violin soloists was ear piercing. Even the conductor was bad.
Hal243Music 4 years ago
jajajaa shit it hurts my ears!
putrefactcorpse666 4 years ago
seriously though, you suck.
danielb47 4 years ago
look ah gut in the white shirt playing the cello. hes holding it wrong!!!!
gigem2015 4 years ago
The second violin soloist outdid the first so much it's rediculous. I have the first violin solo for this and the intonation sucked in the allegro...
Megbo1922 4 years ago
i can play better than that and i'm younger than them! just work on your intonation and more vibrato!
violinst 4 years ago
intonation should have been worked on...the first Grave seemed a little off as well.
Harakiri30350 4 years ago
It could have used some more work. The violin soloists were rather piercing. Not in a good way, in case you were wondering. They should have spent more time on intonation, too.
thatonechick77 4 years ago
very bad intination...:S and grotesque posture of cellists:S
Apokriph 4 years ago
ehhh.....need to work on intonation
eldermaster 4 years ago