TYT interviews Robert Samuelson on Health Care Reform

[d1incharge]

Hospitals and dr.s will just bend over and take regulation from the feds.............fucking moron! really? Hey you stupid turkish immigrant fuck, don't like our healtcare..............MOVE BACK TO TURKEY THAT SHITHOLE YOU CAME FROM. Do some research on our federal govt. than tell us they should control ANYTHING. THEY CAN'T EVEN DELIVER THE MAIL RIGHT!!!! Medicare is fcuking broke, SS has been frozen two years straight. NAME ONE INSTANCE THEY HAVE BEEN ON BUDGET YOU FUCKING MORON. just one..

[moestietabarnak]

Leverage, pushing cost down, thus pushing medical innovation to cut cost to still make a profit. Profit to actual provider of health services, not insurer, they don't add a iota to help your health, they just pushing money around to grab a cut for profit, and they even working against your interest, denying coverage for profit.

[cherukan]

It seems Samuelson made a good argument (almost textbook economics 101) on the current state of the system, i.e. why the people who run the system and the people who provide healthcare do not have any incentives to reduce cost. So far so good, but then he didn't offer any good suggestions on how to fix the system or improve it. None of the three suggestions he had, regulated, free-market, and hybrid, do anything to provide any incentives to doctors and clinics to lower cost.

[ballerscuba]

Bob has this completely wrong. Government already sets the reimbursement amounts in health care, not only for Medicare and Medicaid, but also for private insurances. About two-thirds of the contracts from health care companies lists their payments as a percentage of Medicare reimbursements rates, and almost all are lower than Medicare rates. Providers always have the option of opting out of contracts. That's how the free market works. That's why the public option is such a powerful idea.

[Melpheos1er]

In France we have an hybrid system with a basic public free healthcare (indentical to medicaid) then a public paying healthcare which is mandatory and cost 8% of your salary and around 20% paid by the employer (yes it costs a lot but it pays also your salary 70% when you are sick and 100% if you got hurt on work or in travel to/from work) and finaly an additional private healthcare that cost between 50 to 150€/month and pays the leftover not reimbursed by public HC.

[VistaTheKid]

Robert Samuelson does not understand what a subsidy is versus leverage. Cenk tried hard, but no luck. Keep up the good work, TYT!

[noformstyle]

But if public option offer less coverage, I will choose private and pay little more. Just like current public vs private school. Private is always slightly better, but you pay more. At least with public option we all pay less either way we choose. Even if my employer drop coverage, I will buy on my own in private sector if coverage is better than public and fits my bill.REFORM CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND HEALTH CARE!!!

[junkyardmonkie]

Boo on Cenk.

It seemed that his answer to the new costs of the health care system is to charge more in taxes. The point of this WHOLE ordeal is to improve systems. We're adding an option for competition, we should also try to improve the other end

The hospitals and dentist offices are set up poorly. # of patients is directly related to # of $. This is the real system that need to change

I dont like subsidization, but Cenk there is a lot of improvement that needs to be done in the whole system

[Xenite227]

Like it or not universale health care would require a boost in taxes. Cenk was simply stating a fact. The question is how much, and that would be directly tied to how quickly to overhaul health costs and get the medical industry under control.

Those in Denmark pay a much higher tax rate but they recieve free health care, free college and numerous other social programs in return. It's a worthy trade.

[DeagleBeagle]

uh yeah but it would be more efficient for how much you are spending for healthcare if you are gonna get it anyways, because the insurance company is a business so they need to raise prices to make money, and healthcare shouldn't even be a business, often times what happens is these businesses let these people die because they don't want to pay for it. And also if we had Universal Healthcare they would get treated when the problem started and save the system TONS of money.

[junkyardmonkie]

It bothers me when people say that there are always other options when it comes to torture techniques, but when a popular Prez comes up with a bill all critical thinking stops

There are many ways to fix problems, but because this one came to light everyone just hitches to the bandwagon

Was Freedom a good trade for Safety?

The Danish give 60% to taxes and then the Gov controls everything. They arent terribly unhappy people, but they aren't really happy either (from a poll on global happiness).

[d1incharge]

@Xenite227 Sorry, but even a suffering poor bum in our gutters would die before selling themselves to a shithole like denmark. Never been here I take it? The US of A is a great country, public healthcare will help destroy that, turn us into another european socialist dump. Our competition makes us great, your best dr.s come here to be payed SO MUCH BETTER, you are left with crap. LOL Keep pushing that socialism.....idiot. Come here and see what FREEDOM has done for us. Than talk like you know

[Senakujin]

Looks like Cenk's and Robert's points are pretty much leading down the same road of a single payer. I have to agree with Robert that the government could easily press out all other insurance companies and become a monopoly, still (single payer) is not a bad thing, simply rather dishonest, and Cenk continues to restate that dishonesty.

[dangerouslytalented]

The rest of the world has single payer. It works. If you want other insurance, better coverage, then you can still get that.

It just sets a bare minimum.

[WellIAMScottish]

I went through the "am I qualified" section on the official Medicare website and they said I will be eligible for Medicare on February 1, 2045.

What about me right now?