At The Railyard: Donner Pass

[spgeneralservice1654]

@HaloCE14 Do you mean the others Cab Forward?

[nyc3001]

Which sounds are default in the route? Horn, bell etc.?

[trmania]

@nyc3001 Everything you heard.

[nkproad777]

Man this route has the best msts 2-8-0's ever! Not to mention great scenery. :)

[spgeneralservice1654]

@nkproad777 Those are 2-8-0 C-9s part of the SP class.

[nkproad777]

@spgeneralservice1654 That explains those directional thingys on the stack.

[spgeneralservice1654]

@nkproad777 No some of the C-9s don't have any of those smoke stacks.

[nkproad777]

@spgeneralservice1654 Kinda wish that 3dts made one without that stack, and the standerd one they had.

[BlackWolfessUSCM]

@HaloCE14 That would truely be an awesome sight.

[BlackWolfessUSCM]

@HaloCE14 There's a Cab Forward on display at the California Railroad Museum, Restored to the point of exterior, I don't know if she still runs though.

[CoastStarlight11]

Its to bad they did not simulate the entire Donner Pass route. The Roseville Sub and Donner Pass line runs from Roseville, California to Sparks, Nevada and they only simulated Colfax to Truckee.

[CoastStarlight11]

This is quite a route. I live in Nevada near Reno, Lake Tahoe, and Carson City. I have railfaned Donner Pass an insane amount of times over the years. I live by the east end of Donner pass.

[villamosos]

Very good video trmania !!! :) The music is good !!:) 

[ThomasFan3751]

Do you know what kind of Microsoft computer that has enough strength to run that route? If so, what type?

[dueltruckman]

is this a payroute and where do i find it?

[trmania]

Yes, it's payware. You can find it at 3DTrainstuff's website, which is listed in the credits and in the sidebar.

[durangoandsilverton]

what game is this?

[trmania]

Microsoft Train Simulator

[durangoandsilverton]

the new one?

[trmania]

Only one MSTS has been released

[ThomasFan3751]

Do you think that running Amtrak's California Zephyr would look out of place?

[trmania]

Probably not too much. As long as you can adjust to seeing 1940s-50s automobiles, it should be fine.

[trmania]

Adobe Premiere Elements 7. It's in the credits.

[beeble2003]

Dude, your fair use disclaimer is completely bogus. Reviewing the music would be fair use; using the music as a background to a review of something else is not.

[736berkshire]

I wish those SP 2-8-0's are up for download at train-sim(dot)com

At 0:10, there's no tender behind the Cab Foward.

[kingelvis24]

i notice that to

[trmania]

Yes, this has been pointed out earlier. Again, 3DTS made that consist, I just failed to notice the missing tender.

[funnyfunnys]

wow really cool video!

[trmania]

Restoring a steam loco...much easier to say then it is to do.

[qr2605]

Cab-forward's were always oil burners. Would have been a hard job for the fireman to move the coal from the tender to the firebox!

[kingelvis24]

the intro music rocks! suits the route well!

[crookedeye62]

Wow! Excellent work 3DTrainStuff! Very nice commentary by "At the Railyard!" The technology continues to excel!

[trmania]

The route is excellent. I'm glad I provided good commentary.

[Zoomie00]

i wish someone would make donner pass for trainz. oh well.

[daltonauto]

Someone is already doing that... It may take a while, but I think his team will do a great job.

[trainzchronicles]

@Zoomie00 well i could make it but i cant save it or upload it till i get a new computer

[Modelrailroader401]

What Excatly is the last song used in that(besides the fact my computer sucks) i'd love to have that if i had MSTS :\

[Maximumbandit09]

I bought this a soon as this came out and i visited the real route in Nevada and it was a cool place

[spacewizard1]

I have this route and agree that it is pretty awsome. the only complaint I have is that often the engines will stall after a short time if I leave from truckee and it feels a little slow for my tastes . But then again it is probably the way I drive that causes these problems

[trmania]

It takes getting used to driving steam up hills. I've had the same problem. I've heard that this occasionally happened in real life until you could build your steam back up. However, it is also important not to overload your train.

[spacewizard1]

Good point, though the REALLY funny thing is that, using default consist, I took a a cab-forward and got it to go about 130MPH going from Soda Springs to Coalfax without derailing it. Either the consist I used was super durable or I just got lucky

[trmania]

...or you had derailments turned of in your options settings.

[Zoomie00]

How do you ferget a tender?!

[kingelvis24]

no idea!

[trmania]

Me neither. Again, that consist was created by 3DTS, though I failed to notice until it was pointed out here. My bad there.

[kingelvis24]

thanks for leting me know!

[Zoomie00]

0:11 Whare is the cab forward's Tender!?

[kingelvis24]

he probley frogot it!

[trainboy94]

Snow still ended up in snow sheds because they had gaps between each plank of wood

[thejoshmeister]

they used the 3751 sounds on the consoladations

[Driverman2008]

Do you have the Cambrian Route version 2? 3dtrainstuff makes that route too. It would be cool if you could do a review on that addon too. I don't have it. But maybe your review of it could convince me.

[ThomasnBear1D3]

Extremely well done. This route is like the Oddessey of rail lines. The winter/summer changes are spectacular. Great presentation too, showing the Consolidations with smaller trains was a nice touch, and TWO CAB FORWARDS ON ONE TRAIN?! Epic!

[superjesse64]

Very nice rating

[lennyos]

after watching more thurowly thru the vid, I noticed something that is inacurate(other then the cab forward tank engine) In frieght service, SP never double-feaded Cab Farwards due to their power ripping apart drawbars.

[trmania]

Yeah, I probably should've put it at the back. It was more epic putting it at the front, though. Thanks for pointing that out!

[lennyos]

I used to do it too 'cause it does look so much more epic. They did however double-head passenger trains with them so keep thaqt in mind when you put together express consists.

[Espeelover]

I'm sure SP did attempt to do it. And I'm sure it was done once or twice.

[lennyos]

only on passenger trains. I've watched countless documentries on the engines and all the historians say the same thing, only on passnger due to aging carsand extremely powerful engines.

[SLSF1522]

Nice!

[trmania]

Thanks.

[superjesse64]

SP 4289 looks like a model train.

[superjesse64]

I really wanted to find out if this route was good or not.

[trmania]

I hope I was able to help you out.

[superjesse64]

DP BEAT THE FBL!

[trmania]

It's not alone. FBL's extremely good, but it's still outdated in a few respects.

[Driverman2008]

Stop the train at the beginning! Where's the tender for the cabforward?!

[trmania]

Holy crap, you're right! That's funny. That consist was created by 3DTS, so I blame them.

[Driverman2008]

Lol, I didn't know the Southern Pacific had a "Tank Engine" cab forward!XD

[trmania]

Neither did I.

[xxemmurefan3489xx]

Hmm. Nice "Kashmir" at the end, fits very well with the challenging route style

[trmania]

Thanks. Life and music go hand in hand.

[Driverman2008]

Is the Consolidation a "Harriman"? I have a model of a Union Pacific one made by Lionel that looks very much like the Southern Pacific ones seen here.

[trmania]

Yes, it is.

[joeferrito]

looks like a Harriman but im not sure

[Halosixteen]

Great route and nice review! I'd love to see a modern version after running the transition era route. Impressive scenery and the snow tunnels are amazing.

[trmania]

I know that there is a freeware Roseville Sub available at T-S, but by what I've heard, there is minimal scenery.

[SanJuanTrainz]

Great looking route, and great review. But man, what does a route have to do to get a perfect score?

[trmania]

This route has no major flaw, but some small quirks (snow inside of the snowsheds, default sounds for the diesels, etc). I do have some perfect routes coming soon, but for payware, a route can't have any flaws (or as few as MSTS will allow).

[theUP844]

BTW great video man, I have this route and can honestly it was well worth the money. I agree with you the steam locomotives both the consolidations and the cab forwards are awsome. its a real shame that only one cab forward still survives today. but for the route all I can say is AWSOME.

[Driverman2008]

I wish 3dtrainstuff or RSDL would make this for Rail Simulator.:(

[trmania]

I think 3DTS is working on two separate SP routes at the moment. I'm not sure about RSDL.

[Driverman2008]

For Rail Simulator?

[theUP844]

nope,the two SP routes are being made for MSTS.

[theUP844]

they are, one is based on SP's operations in West Colton, CA the other is the coast line route which is part of the mainline from Los Angeles to San Fransisco.

[trmania]

These routes are being built for Train Simulator (MSTS), not RS.

[theUP844]

unfortuantely that's true. both route's are being developed for MSTS. As far as I know, 3DTS does not plan to do content for RS.

[lennyos]

I also bought this right when it came out and never looked back. It's probably my favorite of all the add-on routes I have and the locomotive's and rolling stock are superb. Definatly a class A++ route.

[trmania]

I agree completely. Thanks!

[mako88sb]

Great review! I've had this route since it first came out in 2005 and it's still one of my favorites. As you said, the cab forwards are great and in my opinion, worth the price of the route all by themselves. I am a bit surprised to see no mention of the 2 expansion packs "Storm 0f 1952" and "The End of a Era". Do you plan on doing a follow up about these later on?

[trmania]

Storm of 1952 will eventually be a mini-review (at the least). I don't know about End of an Era - $20 for just activities is a bit much. I may, though.

[8KrazyRussian8]

Truly spectacular route, and review, only a few criticisms to be made though:

1, you sound more nasally than normal, and your voice sorta changed to a different tone that's not as suitable somewhere in the beginning

2. at about the 6 minute mark, the volume just jumped, my crappy headphones maxed out there sound output (which isn't a lot)

[trmania]

Thanks, Dillon.

[rchgck]

Fantastic, great work, nice editing and great narration! Keep them coming.

This felt more like I was watching something on the history channel.

rchgck

[trmania]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy them!

[kelbym07]

After seeing this, I am seriously thinking about this route. Thanks.

[trmania]

Glad you like how it looks!

[kelbym07]

How much was the package again?

[trmania]

44.35

[kelbym07]

$50! Geez, too bad I'm a student. I better start saving up.