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  • @homeless shaaabaaa is an expression that i say when im drunk in the Holy Spirit and overwhelmed with His love His intoxicating love as we recieve Him by faith daily He manifest Himself as wine , be filled with the Spirit.......:) shaaaaaaabbbaaaaa!!!!

  • totally awesome this was the first vid i saw of Misty and the rain just kept coming down in my room!!!!!! and the drunken buzz came all over me shaaaabbbbaaaa......

  • @lex7100 what's shaba?

  • moust of you repentans are so mind twisted

  • Now i understand why i was called :) By then i was on florida, drinking, fornicating, worshiping idols, cursing, watching porn overnight everyday, but at the same time there were praying out loud, claiming, shouting to the Lord to move HIS beloved ones to a place where they can gather together FREED, DELIVERED, to worship HIS HOLY NAME! Thank you Jesus, thank you brothers and sisters, IM HOME NOW : )

  • @Jiaarhud Hallelu-YAH thank You Yeshua Baruch Atah Adonai (Blessed Is The Lord)

  • This event was on our wedding anniversary. The beginning of our 7th year.

  • @drummingtothesky that is great, but please dont let pursuit of the platform run your life. don't count on a specific thing that is your main and only goal. prophecies are only 'what could be' its up to us to work towards them with a right spirit.

  • where did this event take place at?

  • Ogusev...yes oswald chambers writings are AWESOME...i can say that though i have come a long ways in my walk with my 1st Love...my Best Friend..Jesus..it will always be a learning process...and enjoy every minute of it..but i also love moving freely in THE SPIRIT...AND WHEN OUR LORDS PRESENCE IS SOO STRONG...ALL I FEEL IS LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE!!!

  • ogusev.yes,i have been through much,Father and Jesus asked me a question in the beginning of my walk.They asked me why peter began to sink?i said i dont know.They said,because he stopped focusing on Jesus,and began to focus on the storm,ogusev..pray for Misty if you believe that she is false,but dont waste your time persecuting others,when you could be out saving a lost soul...SHINE!

  • @muthasluv  in my comments, before and always, i don't "persecute" others, there is not one word that goes like this " you are wrong". there are words that say - if it does not go along with the Bible, then its a cult.

  • the lady at 00:05 is a little weird

  • @Diezzle1 ahhh, arnt' they all ?

  • It's just the beginning, Molly...just don't go back to the world for anything. It will lure you, it will tempt you, it will court and seduce you. Never go back. Stay in love with Jesus. Don't let people tell you it wears off and you settle down. It doesn't. I got saved 27 years ago and I am still radically in love with Him...and more so every day! Welcome to the family of God, sis. Kate

  • It's just the beginning, Molly...just don't go back to the world for anything. It will lure you, it will tempt you, it will court and seduce you. Never go back. Stay in love with Jesus. Don't let people tell you it wears off and you settle down. It doesn't. I got saved 27 years ago and I am still radically in love with Him...and more so every day! Welcome to the family of God, sis. Kate

  • It's just the beginning, Molly...just don't go back to the world for anything. It will lure you, it will tempt you, it will court and seduce you. Never go back. Stay in love with Jesus. Don't let people tell you it wears off and you settle down. It doesn't. I got saved 27 years ago and I am still radically in love with Him...and more so every day! Welcome to the family of God, sis. Kate~

  • Come be the fire inside of me.......thank you, sharing :)

  • This song and every other song that testify how is Our God's LOVE , the Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ...how Lord seek to my heart in the most tender...always I am on my greatful tears...that my soul is touched and the never enough words to thank God for accepting me and give me life as in the Holy Bible is written, the feeling is occurs as this song ...Praise the Lord!!!, bless Misty Edward for worshipping God!!1

  • - "This event is The Call Nashville on 07-07-07. It was such a crazy powerful Holy Spirit anointed day. We sang this song with tears streaming down our faces for 1 hour. "

  • where is this played at?

  • where is this played at?

  • beautiful :)

  • 7-7-07 was the day my fiance first banged each other out for 2 hours. :D and we just met at a party for the first time that night. HAHA

  • thats crazy theyre all drunk on God thats the funniest and most awesome point in spending time with God

  • @Regis305

    Drunk with God. That means that you consider God and belief in God irrational.

    Your experience was a product of you imagination. Music is very powerful and it can make you feel and believe anything.

  • @SamWiseGingy of course I consider God and when has God done anything that makes sense havent you ever heard of Noah's ark.

    Of course God is irrational when Jesus came He did things that people weren't used to. Yo as a matter of fact I'll prove to you that God is real, that He is so real that it seems irrational to our human minds. Furthermore if God is a figment of my imagination then how come I had scoliosis and no longer have it. god bless man message me back. Remember this date July 22

  • @Regis305

    Ever hear of endorphins?

    Music, dancing, focus, meditation, and joy can release endorphins.

    You wanted God to touch you and you imagined he did.

    What happens when you don't feel touched?

  • @SamWiseGingy yea actually im studying to be a doctor they are hormones lol. Look man first off i dnt need music to feel God the Holy Spirit is all around me 24/7 all day. Secondly, when i dnt feel touched I keep on worshipping, keep on praising He's just seeing if I'm there for pleasure, or for Him. Anyways, God loves you man and do more research on endorphins from a reliable textbook not just a simple biology textbook that wants to prove evolution. God bless and peace

  • @SamWiseGingy Most of the people who listen to this don't believe in God because someone convinced them, or because they had a subjective emotional experience, but because they had an encounter with the power of God and saw or experienced something completely impossible happen. Regis305 claims to have had scoliosis but no longer has it. While at a prayer meeting/bible study a rain storm sprung up suddenly. The Lord spoke to me and told me to rebuke the rain. I did and it immediately stopped.

  • @MonolithImmortal

    Rain never stops on its own, does it?

    Everyone who prays for healing gets it, right?

    Has an amputee ever been healed?

    This is called superstition.

    You want God to exist and to be personal, so you conjure up feelings that tell you God is real and touching you. But it is only you.

    Not that you are bad, actually you have many good things about you.

    Those feelings of love, belonging, and forgiveness come from you.

    You can make your own cookies.

  • @SamWiseGingy As far as the rain goes, it was torrential, and it stopped the instant I rebuked it.

    There have been times when I met someone for the first time and they gave me accurate detailed descriptions of my life about things that I had never spoken to anyone about. Then there was the time I had a vision of a tropical storm hitting panama city beach, where I even saw down to it's name and when it would come. It all happened exactly as I saw it ahead of time. (tropical storm claudette 2009)

  • @MonolithImmortal

    So you can rebuke the wind and the rain just like Jesus.

    Did you stop the oil spill in the Gulf too?

    How about the drought in the sub Sarah, can you bring an end to that.

    Can you fix the built up of CO2 in our atmosphere?

    Did you have your gift when Katrina hit?

  • @SamWiseGingy

    Listen man, all I'm saying is that I've seen the impossible. You don't have to believe me, but don't give me a half assed explanation that basicly says "oh you simpleton, you cant tell the difference from a watermelon and a school bus." I know the difference between a simple coincidence and an impossible reality.

    As for your other straw men, I won't address them because you're more interested in trying to prove me wrong than actually hearing me.

  • @MonolithImmortal

    You are claiming that you have the ability to suspend natural law in your favor.

    I don't believe you, and your delusion is dangerous.

    You are the first rain maker to claim the power to work miracles.

    This is the problem with religion. Once you suspend reason to have to relationship with God you lose other reasoning abilities.

  • @SamWiseGingy

    BTW, endorphins don't cure scoliosis. And as for amputees, yes, they have been healed. I haven't seen it personally, but I haver heard of accounts (granted, word of mouth).

    I've watched someone's leg be lengthened by several inches.

    I have a friend who prayed for a blind man and he received his sight. That's not something that can be imagined or faked. Either he saw or he didn't.

    As for receiving healing, that's something that is debated. Simply put, it requires great faith.

  • @MonolithImmortal

    If you want to base your faith on the reality of faith healing then go for it.

    Even if you establish that faith healing is really happening you still need to have the right faith to be "saved."

    The reports of faith healing have always exceeded the reality of faith healing.

    When do you stop praying and go to the doctor?

  • @MonolithImmortal Glory, the key to your statement is that the Lord told you to speak to the rain,, people need to wait til the Lord tells them to speak, and then they will see the Lord move!!!! Praise God!!!

  • JESUS YOU ARE THE FIRE INSIDE OF ME SHABA !!

  • I can hardly believe it has been nearly 3 years since I stood in that stadium! God is so awesome!

  • how beautiful to see people from all ages in GOD's ecstasy!

  • AWESOME90002~It's a shame you don't know Him.

  • Como eu senti a presença de Deus ao ver esse video...e entendi seu proposito sobre a terra e a minha vida,obrigado JESUS!

  • It's a shame that God doesn't exist.

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  • @AWESOME90002

    do you believe in dark matter and other dimensions? Perhaps God is a being outside of our 5 senses?

  • @AWESOME90002 we will pray for your eyes to be opened because God is REAL and the most magnificent presence you will ever experience!

  • @AWESOME90002 hahahaha

  • MISTY EDWARDS!!!! I LOVE U

  • love her

  • I heard this song one time and immediately fell in love with it... Favorite Part @ 5:36

  • I am not my own, i am His and i was made for love!

  • Astvac orhni zez. ARMENIA

  • is it true Misty is doing a nonmarriage vow?

  • no shes married to clay edwards

  • clay is her brother

  • @torimelodic223

    Actually Clay is her brother, Clay's wife (Misty's sister-in-law) is Sarah Edwards.

  • How old is Misty?

  • Hebrews 12.29 and may the fire of the Holy Spirit burn away the chaff

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  • OH Abba! You are so amazing! May this song be like a beautiful aroma to you and a beautiful fragrance. Oh Lord may we sing this song and may we belive what we are saying to be true. Oh Abba rain your Holy Spirit on your children!

  • I went to onething just about 2 weeks ago.

    when Misty Edwards played this song

    I was saved!

    this song always touches my heart everytime i listen to it.

    I now pray and read the bible everyday

    no matter how tired i am, I DO IT!

    Oh father you are good!!

    I need more ihop!!!!!!!!

  • @MoLLyMoU

    awesome !!!!!!!!! yeah !!!

  • @MoLLyMoU thats is awsome wat God has done for you! even tho it was five months ago i still celebrate with you and encourage you to keep going cuz God will do mighty things through u if you allow Him too:)

  • @MoLLyMoU That's amazing! Message me if you want..if you ever need a fellow Jesus lover to talk to. This makes my heart so happy.

  • @MoLLyMoU I GLORIFY GOD FOR YOUR LIFE! ;) SEE YOU IN HEAVEN!

  • @MoLLyMoU Please listen to John Mulinde's message to IHOP. You can search it on youtube. God bless.

  • so this is my calling, lou engle's wife came up to me and proficied over me that I would be a drummer and a drum teacher up there at Ihop, and I met with paco and he gave me a few pointers. I know this is my calling cause my mom has already had profetic words from god and dreams of me playing for Ihop I met a lot of guys up there at awakening teen camp awesome guys David Whitworth, Cory Asbury, and Matt Gilman. Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!

  • Bless you, friend. May you prosper in all you do. :)

  • @drummingtothesky praise God!

  • @drummingtothesky are you bat shit crazy? you are in a cult and need to run away

  • @Aslanspal God loves you man I really beleive that.

  • @drummingtothesky yes he loves me more than he loves you ..hate to break it too ya :) as for Misty here is more from my Gaydar screen ..man look how boyish she is in this video

    Laura Hackett Interview with Misty Edwards <<<< paste this in google

  • @Aslanspal ...to this comment for drummingtothesky "are you bat shit crazy? you are in a cult and need to run away" Agree 100% !!! @drummingtothesky, why don't you research it and find out for yourself, ...and don't take it as if were bashing on you, just research, read about it , read the Bible, read from various sources and compare to the Word of God, ...if it contradicts the Bible it is a cult.

  • @ogusev ...you are wrong...I know MY LORD JESUS CHRIST...I KNOW MY FATHER GOD...I KNOW MY HELPER THE HOLY SPIRIT...AND THEY ARE...I SAY ARE IN IT...THE BIBLE SAYS DO NOT SPEAK AGAINST THE ANNOINTED...AND YOU JUST DID...REPENT!!!! THERE IS FREEDOM WITH CHRIST...BUT ONLY WHEN YOU EMBRACE IT...I WILL PRAY FOR YOU TO EXPERIENCE IT AS IT RISES UP IN THIS WORLD...THE WAVE OF REVIVAL IS COMING...ACTUALLY IS ALREADY HERE.... IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO STEP OUT OF THE BOAT AND WALK ON WATER WITH YOUR SAVIOR!

  • @muthasluv i know that revival is coming, the fire is coming that's for sure, and if my revival is coming with fire and going to judge all unjust, unfair, fake and false stuff, THAT's the revival im waiting for .... and if you KNOW your Lord and Savior, how come you don't know this verse - " For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline. " 2 Timothy , ....and God is not the God of emotions, and this is NOT THE ANOINTED one of His....

  • @ogusev

    Uhh the scripture is actually best translated as "power love and a SOUND MIND." (a sound mind being the opposite of fear)

    And there is nothing wrong with Discipline, but biblical discipline has to do with living a righteous life, not with how you worship.

    If i was you Pharisee, i would concentrate on my own calling instead of condemning others for the execution of theirs.

    But then it would be unlike a Pharisee to actually be productive. Words are provided in the place of that

  • @muthasluv He made emotions, but HIS service is not geared and centered around emotions, emotions play a part, maybe a big part, BUT, HIS SPIRIT is the Spirit of self control ( one of the fruits of the Spirit, read Galatians ) ....God is the God of LOVE i know, not hate, but we do have to decipher truth from faulty stuff, right from wrong, ....have you ever read 2 Peter chapter 2 read it, unless you prefer to be one of those that are strayed away, how it says will happen in the last days ...

  • @muthasluv please take not, Peter walked on water with Jesus only for a little bit, the REST of his earthly life Peter walked on the ground,..... same with emotions, get out and walk on water is yes, alright, cool, exiciting, ...but there is a time when we need to get back to reality, "come off" the mountain how O.Chambers writes and walk with Jesus in the walley, possessed with demons, and WALK ON THE GROUND as desciples,.. if you haven't noticed or ever tried, THAT'S the hardest thing to do

  • I CANNOT STOP LISTENING TO THIS ALL NIGHT LONG - GOD MOVE BY YOUR SPIRIT WITH FIRE BURN OUT ALL OF OUR INIQUITY AND LET YOUR PASSION SET EVERYWHERE WE GO A FLAME WHETHER IN WORD, SILENCE, LET US PREACH THE GOSPEL AT ALL TIMES (WITH OUR LIFE) AND SOMETIMES USE WORDS HALLELUJAH...come be the FIRE INSIDE OF ME GOD CAPTIVATE EVERY EAR WHO HEARS, He is after our HEARTS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • YES LORD PRAISE GOD

  • wow i remember this. it was awesome. like a 15 minute drive from my house. :D

  • amazing snog, meant for this generation of children in the market place, called to a greater purpose, a greater destiny. and a greater day.

  • Deus abençoe esse Ministério!

  • Blessed and enviably happy [with a happiness produced by the experience of God's favor and especially conditioned by the revelation of His matchless grace] are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted!(

    Matthew 5:4

    May God's Grace favour and mercy be with you all. GOD BLESS!

  • i was there..

  • palegreygarden, jesus said, i am THE way , THE truth, and THE life, no man comes to the Father but through me. john 14:6. He will change you and set you free from sin and give you eternal life with HIM forever! Jesus loves you and knows all your secret sins and will forgive them all if you come to HIM!!!! Jesus IS ALIVE my friend and coming sooner than you know

  • this is a beautiful, powerful song. i was here at the call for this - in the front row!

  • I pray to God that someone will come to you and share the word of God with you.

  • Why palegreygarden?

    I was there, and the enthusiasm was no different than what I've seen when I've gone to Red Sox games, or rock concerts. A group of people gathered together who are excited about what they believe doesn't constitute a cult. I recommend you take a look at large secular gatherings in sports, music, and politics. People are always worshiping and being ritualistic about something. The real question is, do you even know what you are worshiping? Because most people don't.

  • oh really? i get creeped out by korn concerts.

  • i concur. This one is a little more terrifying though.

  • jkodes2003, You need to be that one if that is your prayer.

  • Please explain to me how he failed... just because you don't understand why he would die for you or why he would be beaten, mocked and have His beard ripped out for you...how on earth does that make him a failure?

    No disrespect intended.

    Also, if by cult ceremony you mean worship of a God who deserves it, then yes, that's what it is

  • You're right. I retract my statement. Jesus isn't SO much of a failure as you are for worshiping the cult of amen rah.

  • That statement is filled with hate and prejudice and no reasoning whatsoever to back it up.

    I can almost see why you would think it was a cult because one thing that video cannot catch is that the Spirit of God was moving there. You can't sense His presence; you can only see that ppl are doing something you don't understand.

    Don't be judgmental just because you don't get it.

  • chills every minute of this video

    praise the Lord

    GOd is good ALL THE TIME!

  • Misty is a modern day psalmist unto the Lord-

    She leads others into the throne room of God.

  • Praise God!

  • Praise You dear heavenly Father!!!

    blessings to all of Gods children,

    Daniel

  • He is HAYA ASHER HAYA

    Origin: Hebrew

    HAYA

    Meaning: Alive, living ASHER

    Meaning:Itself He is EVERYTHING

    Exodus 3:14

  • hahahh there is a whole page of stephenm2385 i checked like 5 pages back and u still talking hahah tat cool

  • The Bible says in Romans 10:17 that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So how else are you going to have the faith to believe unless you keep hearing what God says about your problem? Because we may read something once or twice in the Bible and say that we believe that it's true but when everything around you including your own body is telling you differently you don't REALLY believe it.

  • The good news though is that the same way you got in you can get out. All you have to do is change what your being indoctrinated by. Once you quit listening to what everyone else is saying about your problem and you begin to only listen to what God says about it that's the first step. You then take the Word and you get the scriptures that pertain to the need that you have and you begin to confess them with your mouth over and over again every day.

  • It happens to everyone and this process of indoctrination is what Satan uses to get people held into believing a certain way. That's why it's especially important who your being taught by in the church you go to because if that man or woman is teaching something that's not lining up perfectly with the Word of God they can get you really out of balance with truth. And that's what Satan wants is to keep people from getting healed and from getting set free and from getting out of bondage.

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  • That's why it's so important that you guard yourself from what you look upon and what you listen to and that you begin to judge the character of the people your spending your time around. Because whatever your soul is coming in contact with is what it's trying to become more like. You can get recognize this pretty easily in young people in how they begin to change when they start hanging around a different crowd of people. The way they talk and dress and act and the things they do.

  • So when it comes time that your looking for a healing or a deliverance from something you've been struggling with or just anything that God's word says you can have then what is it that's stopping you from getting it? Have you not been going through an indoctrination process your whole life by what you've seen happen to other people in the same situation and what you see them saying about it in the media and what the doctors tell you and what your family is telling you?

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  • Another example would be when you take an English speaking American and drop them out in the middle of a tribe in Africa that doesn't speak a bit of English. Even though he doesn't speak their language and he's never had to survive out in the wild he'll still begin to adapt to the surroundings he's being subjected to. After a while he'll begin to learn parts of their language by listening and watching and he'll learn how to hunt and how to dress and how to act all by seeing and hearing.

  • Have you ever seen a little boy how he wants to try and be just like his daddy and so he'll try and dress like him and walk like him and talk like him because his daddy is what he's looking to as the way things should be. Your soul operates on that same level. It tries to become whatever your subjecting it to. Whatever your looking to as the way things should be.

  • It began as a process by their granddaddies and their daddies and their grandmothers and their mothers and as they grew up seeing things and hearing things from everyone around them and everywhere they went it caused them to believe how things should be. They became indoctrinated by this way of thinking. And see your soul is made up of your mind, your will, your intellect, and your emotions and it operates with the power to transform you to whatever you willfully subject it to the most.

  • Ya know it wasn't that long ago that a large portion of the white people in America literally hated black people and they didn't want to have anything to do with them because they didn't feel they were as good as them. And we all know the cost that it took to begin to change those things in America. But if you later went and asked some of these people why they hated them you'd find a lot of them hadn't even hardly ever met a black person if at all. So why did they hate them so much?

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  • A lot of the time the way we believe is based on whatever area of the World that we were born into and grew up in. If you were born in an oriental culture you believe a certain about things. If you were born in the Middle East you believe a certain way. And if you were born into the Western culture you believe a certain way. And you have all these different beliefs about just everything because it was process of things you saw and heard and were taught throughout your life.

  • And now I come back around to where I started with the confessing of the word again and again over your situation and your life. You see what people don't seem to recognize is that everything about us is a product of the indoctrination that we've had throughout our life. And what that means is that our thought processes work based on the things that we've seen and that we've heard and that we've been taught over and over again and again.

  • We limit God because of our own unbelief. The only thing stopping us from having everything that He promised us is that lack of faith in you and me. The only thing that's stopping us from walking in the same power and authority and doing the same miracles that Jesus did is our lack of faith because Jesus said even greater things you will do than me because I go to be with the Father. We limit God in every area of our life because we focus our belief on what we see instead of what He said.

  • See where your hung up is with thinking that God has to make a choice on whether or not He does this thing for you. Many churches teach that God decides when He wants to heal and when He doesn't and He'll heal you if it's His will to do so. But nothing about that is scriptural. You have to throw out half of the New Testament just to believe that. But yet they still teach this because they can't understand why sometimes people get healed and why sometimes they don't.

  • The problem lies in the fact that God demands faith. It says without faith it is impossible to please God. He also said you will receive whatsoever you have the faith to believe for. So where's the problem coming in that people can't get what they're praying for and what it seems like sometimes God answers and sometimes He doesn't? The problem lies in you and your lack of faith that Jesus ALREADY DID what your asking Him to do for you.

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  • John 14:12-13 (King James Version)

    13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

    14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

    1 John 5:14-15 (King James Version)

    14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

    15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

  • So what's the problem here? Is it like you said God hears but just doesn't always answer? I mean He just sent His only Son to go through horrible persecution and an unimaginable death.

    The Jews who lived by the Old Testament law and were what you would look to as being the religious church goers during that time were the ones that denied Jesus and went before Pilate angry and screaming that He be crucified because of claiming to be the Son of God.

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  • He won't cast ou demons!!! Jesus says if i came in the name of belezebub then why would i cast out these demons who go by him. Or words to those effects. Would Jesus defend himself with this if Satan can/would kick out demons?

  • Religion- the mass psychosis

  • can anyone find on youtube the ihop's theme song that goes like this: i dont wanna be sleeping while the battle is raging, i dont wanna be sleeping while the devil is raging.

  • I found it sung by Laura Hackett and it is called the "battle is raging". YustosAnthony posted it. It is an incredible song.

  • "i don't want to talk about you like your not in the room.. i want to look right at you, i want to sing right to you...."

    we were made for loving you Jesus! You created us from and for LOVE! We are called above all else to LOVE You and one another! Help us Abba to love!

  • lol when your rock gets sum one who's never walked out of their wheel chair message me n maybe i'll give it try but prop not.

  • "when your rock gets sum one who's never walked out of their wheel chair message me"

    Oh, it never will.

    Didn't you read what I wrote?

    Praying to a rock is exactly like fraying to YHWH,

    not better!

    Every "out of the wheelchair" story I've even followed up

    has turned out to be a fraud, a hoax by the christian "healer."

  • How many have you followed up? And how did you go about it?

  • "How many have you followed up? And how did you go about it?"

    I couldn't put a number to it.

    Many dozens, at least, perhaps as many as 200?

    I was a pastor for 40 years, you know,

    and for many of those years I worked within a denomination

    that takes healing and signs very seriously.

    I've seen exposes, I've seen the set-ups,

    and I have had fakers (both "healers" and "healees")

    confess their deceptions to me.

  • That dosen't suprise me that thier are fakers, i in know way claimed that all healings are sincere. However I am inclined to believe they can happen due to my own healing. I suffered with acid reflux for a long time, doctors were concerned about me doing damage to my oesophagus, i was on some medication as perscriped. And the guy at the front of the Church called this out, he prayed for me and the refulx stopped. Now I am aware of the following; calling out acid reflux in a church of 50 is....

  • Yes, acid reflux is an excellent example of a typical healing.

    Very closely related to attitude and state of mind,

    very susceptible of cure by meditation or belief.

    It's about the prefect psychosomatic illness.

    I don't doubt your story,

    I just doubt the cause of your cure.

    Many hypnotic cures are permanent, too, BTW.

    No, there are simply no documented, verifiable healings

    available to prove the effectiveness of prayer and laying on hands.

    If there were, it would be BIG news, I'm sure.

  • I just said I was aware of it psycomotive etc. but the damage done to my oesophagus is no longer there which means it has healed which had never happened before it was all ways in a state of semi-repair, this was shown last time i had the camera down my throat. Most hypnotic cures are shown to be tempoary this was shown hugely with placebo surgery etc, so from the papers i have read i would say that most placebo's are temporary. I found it hard to imagine that my mind could lose the pain iwas in

  • of course maybe the mind is that powerful. But the thing is why won't my mind heal my migrains? And will it when someone at the front call's it out? And to be honest I wouldn't care wether it was God or my mind that got rid of them!! What about stigmata's? I mean the one's that happen while there are witness' not one's that go into a room and 'pray' and come out with it.

  • oh yeah one last thing. If you believe that people are cured by suggestiblity and pschoymotive then why do you attack Christianity? Surely on most occasions it would be better to let people be healed, bar the rare few where people turn down chemo etc. I left three comments sry i sent one as a reply to myself so please read em all.

  • I'll tell you why I am here, shall I? For the benefit of people watching the exchange. To counter the brainwashing of christianity. To promote reason and freedom. To encourage people to live THIS life rather than wait for a nonexistent life after death. To throw away this life and live in fear and shame is the ultimate tragedy, because this is all there is! After 40 years of teaching and preaching the Bible my eyes have been opened. Now I am trying to make amends by speaking the truth.
  • What about my other questions?

    'Live in fear and shame'? This isn't Christianity, my beliefs state that I should be joyful and rejoice. What stopped you believing? I'm afriad i don't see much brain washing in the Church, I've been to the most and least Charsmatic churches and the only influence the church has that i have an issue with is money but it dosen't seem to payoff here in the UK. Churches closing down left righ and centre.

  • There are different types of "christianity," many of them not true Christianity at all.

    First question. How is it that you believe "christians" have brainwashed individuals? I'm not saying I'm going to disagree with you. I just want to know what you think.

    As for reason, one very large failure in the "church" today is the belief that Christians don't have to think. However, if you have read the New Testament, you know this to be untrue.

  • Peter, for example, was an "unlearned" man, but the Spirit gave him the ability to speak (not only in his own language but in others). God did not call him to be stupid or ignorant, and He does not call people to be stupid or ignorant today.

    As to freedom, anyone in sin is a slave to sin. I know this to be true b/c I have known the bondage of sin in my own life. The only true freedom is becoming a servant to a Master who views you as His child.

    As to living this life, true Christians are

  • Called to do that as well. However we are not called to live FOR this life. There is a difference.

    And who lives in fear and shame but those who are guilty of offending a Righteous God, unless they have somehow got it in their heads that God is out to get them (which is simply not true).

    As to your previous life: 40 yearsI wonder what made you waste your life so if you don't believe in the very thing you used to preach.

    Either you know He is real and are running or you never knew Him at all.

  • "Either you know He is real and are running or you never knew Him at all"

    Or I have grown and learned and opened my eyes.

    Do YOU still believe what you believed 50 years ago?

    If so, you have stagnated.

  • HAVE you opened your eyes? I'd really like to hear what it was you believed about my King if you don't believe in Him now.

    And do you mean to say that you don't believe ANYthing now that you did 50 years ago? Just because you continue to believe something doesn't mean you haven't grown. Last time I checked 2+2 still equals 4.

    You can't change Truth. And you only know it to be Truth after you've learned it.

  • you claim to have been christian, and now renounce Jesus Christ. It's none of my business who's saved and not saved, my business is to make sure people have the opportunity to know Jesus, it's Jesus' job to save and people's job to accept it. But the way I see it, if you TRULY were a real christian, and you tasted that the "Lord was good", how can you deny His existence? If His wine at one time was good, why would you run from it? You probly never tasted His wine in the end..

  • exactly! unless you have tasted the beautiful and graceful wine of Jesus Christ, how would you know that it is good, and why would you turn from what you know is good, unless you truly did not taste the wine and rather looked at it through the glass...

  • more than likely to produces results, suggestibility and even hypnosis could take the pain away but these tend to be short term even in the most suggestible person and it is now a few years on, also i could of course 'grown out of it' but i've had it, it would seem, from birth and would seem a massive coincidence. I also stopped taking my medication the day I was prayed for and haven't taken any since. Ok it's not as good as some1 getting out of a wheelchair.

  • You use the "40 year pastor" thing alot. I respect you. But denominations usually pervert Gods word in some way or another. You know that..

    For somebody who wants to be free and openminded, you have a pretty thick wall built up towards Christians.

  • "You use the "40 year pastor" thing alot" I think people should talk about what they understand. Christianity and the Bible are things I understand very well and I think it's honest and appropriate to let people know why. Do you think that when one is open minded that means to only partly believe what you know to be the truth? It's not a wall, it's knowledge. Do you act like maybe the Bible is not true> Of course not; you have "a wall built up" against the notion that it's an unreliable book.
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  • Many witchcrafts claim to have dead being rasied. The antichrist will rise from the dead!!! READ REVELATIONS!!! Many people believe some of the demons from reveltations are the creation or mutilation at the hand's of SAtan espically the locust things!!

  • But as you said, these healings that you followed up on are supposedly all due to people saying they were sick and got healed even though they were never sick or they simply got healed by other means than God. Well once again, any good thing that God ever does satan is always going to be out there trying to pollute it for his benefit. Satan takes great pleasure in trying to make a mockery of the things of God and in most cases he succeeds because people are lacking in the teaching department.

  • And the second thing that you need to know is that there are a whole lot of people that get healed and then later lose their healing because they didn't continue to stand in faith. When God heals and someone is in a church service or out on the street or wherever their at when the power of God hits and the anointing is there and you get your healing, the very second you walk out those doors at the church after the service the devil is going to be there trying to convince you that it was a lie.

  • He will come at you with uncaptivated thoughts and fear and worry and he will work on you until he convinces you that it was all fake and it wasn't real and that if you did get healed it's only because of something else you did and that it wasn't God. And if he can get you to believe that then you will open the door for that thing you just got healed from to come right back upon you. God demands a certain measure of faith on your part.

  • When a person gets their healing they're to then go and continue to confess what the Word of God says over that thing they just got delivered from. They need to get out their Bible and start thanking God for their healing over and over every day and confessing that by the stripes of Jesus I am healed. Because if you do not then satan will deceive you in your mind because after a while you'll start to think well maybe God didn't really do it.

  • And if you give him any foot hold at all that thing will start to creep back upon you and you'll get into worry and fear and once that happens you'll lose that healing you were trying to hold on to. Because satan absolutely hates you more than anything and he is not going to sit idlely by and let great things of God take place without coming in and trying to stop it. And the only thing that he listens to is the word of God and that's why you have to confess what the word says over and over.

  • Your not moving God in confessing what the Word says over your situation, your moving yourself. Your turning your thoughts and your emotions and your lining them up with the Word of God. It's already God's perfect will that every person that believes on Him to be walking in perfect health, God's just waiting on you to get to where you can believe enough to receive. The Bible says as a man thinketh so is he. It also says to speak thou to the mountain that it be removed.

  • Did you know that if you go to the river and pick up a rock

    you can bring that rock home and pray to it every day?

    It's true!

    And it always answers your prayers!

    Mind you, sometimes the answer will be YES,

    sometimes it will be NO,

    and sometimes it will be WAIT,

    but it will always answer your prayer.

    Just like God.

    Just exactly like God.

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  • RobyPreachTimothy, the law of sin and death which was the law in the Old Testament was defeated when Christ died upon the cross. Sin can no longer cause a separation between you and God because sin no longer has any dominion over you. In the Old Testament they made sacrifices of animals but it was never enough to fully cover those sins and the sacrifices being made each year constantly brought remembrance to those sins being committed.

  • When they were still under the law sin had authority over them and no matter how hard they tried not to sin they could NOT stop themselves from sinning.

    Romans 7:5-6 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.

    But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.