Beethoven - Wellington's victory 2/2

[Adri58]

Beethoven considered this work to be a shit. Well, I would love to be able to compose this shit.

Even the worst Beethoven composition is absolutelly outstanding

For example: 5.25. What the fuck!!!!! That is AWESOME !!!!!!

[emailf1]

The worst Beethoven's work, just forget it.

[crisandm1016]

1:44 to around 2:15

Who else thinks it sounds exactly like my country tis of thee

[fedorasproductions]

@crisandm1016 "my country tis of thees" melody comes from a very british piece, written to bring more patriotism to the country. The americans used it like yankee doodle against the british and made the piece of music our own during the revolution.

[curriefiona]

@fedorasproductions @crisandm1016 That "very british piece" is God Save the King (a.k.a. God Save the Queen) and the national anthem of Great Britain. So it was a logical choice for Beethoven to have incorporated it into this piece. Other nations have used the tune with new lyrics for their own national anthems at various points in history, but God Save the King was the original version.

[Adri58]

5:24 is just awesome

[Adri58]

This composition might not be a good work, but I absolutely love it

[H1dden1s]

Beethoven NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dont Do It!!!!!!!!

[MsPandaRosa]

@H1dden1s

Do it, Ludwig, do it! For the love of Charles Ives, do it!

[MsPandaRosa]

Somewhere Antonio Salieri is smiling...  "You may scoff at my old pupil, but you have to admit this is a lot fun."

[MsPandaRosa]

@MsPandaRosa

Oop, forgot the OF, that "this is a lot OF fun."

Alas, I have earned myself another hundred years in the dung pits.

[OWLovethBL]

Utter shite

[MsPandaRosa]

@OWLovethBL

and i look forward to seeing you next to me shoveling out the dung pits, you do not mock what God has chosen, esp about such a catchy tune, :-)

[OWLovethBL]

@MsPandaRosa What in the hell are you talking about.

[MsPandaRosa]

@OWLovethBL

You were mocking Beethoven, even if it is one of his lesser works :P

[OWLovethBL]

@MsPandaRosa I wasn't mocking, I was flat-out saying this is terrible.

[MsPandaRosa]

@OWLovethBL

not if you like John Wayne

Beethoven's worst is still better than most players' best

[Adri58]

@MsPandaRosa Exactly. Without doing any effort he was one of the best composer.

I bet he composed this "shit" while having crap LOL

[OWLovethBL]

What in the hell are you talking about.

[JPH1138]

@SenecatheDuck lol at least a quarter of the British armed forces at the time were Irish, bit of an oversight from Magnorion there. They even had an elite Irish regiment, the Connaught Rangers.

[SirSebastianWang]

Tchaikovsky, Wagner and Liszt totally ripped off Beethoven.

[SenecatheDuck]

@Magnorion Were there no Irishmen there? Must have been. There's always Irish everywhere. Possibly on both sides.

[MrFerminleon]

Wellington's Victory, or, the Battle of Vitoria, Op. 91 (Wellingtons Sieg oder die Schlacht bei Vittoria) is a minor orchestral work composed by Ludwig van Beethoven to commemorate the Duke of Wellington's victory over Joseph Bonaparte's forces at the Battle of Vitoria in Basqueland on June 21, 1813. It is also known sometimes as "The Battle Symphony" or "The Battle of Vitoria", and was dedicated to the Prince Regent, later George IV of the United Kingdom.

[DiVeronica]

'The piece proved to be a substantial moneymaker for Beethoven, but is generally considered among his weakest compositions."

[135yearswaiting]

Why people continue to knock this piece I never understand, everyone agrees it is not Beethoven´s greatest piece just as no one would say that The Charge of the Light Brigade was the greatest poem written by Alfred Lord Tennyson. Both were written in remembrance of military events, one a great victory and the other a disaster of major proportions, later the 1812 Overture was written for a celebration.

The three pieces are full of onomatopoeia, military sounds, cavalry charging, gunfire etc.

[Nuker1337]

This is absolutely fantastic. So much fire and passion!! I love the strong rthythms, the loud brass and the percussion!

[Archangel777Catholic]

From about 2:00 and on, My Country 'Tis of Thee? Anyone else?

[bassoonsrcool]

@Archangel777Catholic

It's also God Save the Queen, which came way before My Country Tis of Thee. Americans just looooove to steal things.

[Archangel777Catholic]

@bassoonsrcool Oh yeah, I guess so!

[MsPandaRosa]

@bassoonsrcool

Well, if recycling ideas and making them better was good enough for Will Shakespeare....

[nachtmusik1860]

@Archangel777Catholic

Dear me, it is God Save the Queen (the King, at the time of the battle in question), the history of the world doesn't start with that of the US, you know!

[Archangel777Catholic]

@nachtmusik1860 Yes, I know, it starts with Antarctica, the most crucial nation of all history.

[MsPandaRosa]

@Archangel777Catholic

Someday that is going to be the case, and then where will we be?

[MsPandaRosa]

@nachtmusik1860

Yes, but sometimes it all does come together in the US, and with such fun results.

[MsPandaRosa]

@Archangel777Catholic

Check out Charles Ives' "Variations On 'America'".

Anyone growing in the United States is invariably going to start hearing "My Country, Tis' of Thee...", with all apologies to the English.

[sstuddert]

@Magnorion and the Irish.

[Mortadelo1989]

Una obra musical magnífica, por mucho que digan que no es lo mejor del Maestro Beethoven. ¡Sublime! ¡Gracias desde España por subir este vídeo!

[Adri58]

@Mortadelo1989 Será una basurilla para Beethoven, pero me encantaaaaaaa. Seguro que esta obra la compuso cagando, y aún así es cojonuda.

Pero su mejor obra es la Misa Solemnis, eso es lo más cercano a la perfección que existe

[DomWeasel]

@Magnorion

Now you're we're on the same wavelength. I never argue for favour of a single nation; all of them have darkness in their pasts and bickering which is worst is pointless.

To paraphrase an opinion put forth in a game I once played 'Humankind will only advance when everyone stops looking at where we came from and look forward to where we're going'.

[DomWeasel]

@Magnorion

Just about all English country battalions were a third Irish.

And how is America limitless in moral strength when it had to have a civil war to decide whether slavery was evil or not?

[DiVeronica]

@DomWeasel the civil war wasn't about the morality of slavery...

[MsPandaRosa]

@DiVeronica

No, but that did prove an underlying point, what the "states' rights" hinged on.

[PandaMishima]

@Magnorion

Ah, and God help us all. I did not vote for Pres. Obama, nor can I support his ideas, yet I am grieved that he is so reviled.

Spirit of George Washington, and of Maestro van Beethoven, be upon Barrack Obama.

[respontaneous]

this might sound really silly, but im looking for a composition and im not sure if it's by Beethoven, but it's usually associated with the World War films, and usually during an air battle

[olliedominus]

@respontaneous I suspect you may be thinking of Wagner? maybe The ride of the Valkyries?

[PandaMishima]

@respontaneous

if you grew up on Warner cartoons as I did, it might just be the famous Fifth Symphony. Hope this helps.

[PandaMishima]

Told by one of the best Germans of all time, Maestro Ludwig.

[Adri58]

@PandaMishima I would be proud to be German. Besides, they have Brahms, who is another FUCKING GENIUS

[brigadierugly]

"up guards and at them"

[beethoven941]

Capolavoro assoluto di Ludwig van Beethoven!!!

[fendr93]

A beautifil music. I would like to know what is the name of the conductor and of his orchestra for this music please.

[Nuker1337]

@fendr93 Herbert von Karajan.

[PandaMishima]

@Magnorion

And brave Americans too, if some time after. Okay I can't resist, at 1:42---

My Country 'tis of Thee,

Sweet Land Of Liberty,

Of Thee I Sing...

(ducks to avoid tomatoes)

[van1980]

@PandaMishima Google "American Paradox". You might find it interesting.

[littlejokerbaby]

just playin wellingtons victory in orchestra but way slower

[mechanussunrise]

@Magnorion Irish, Portuguese and Spanish too

[TheGlobula]

I would rather refrain from making any comments concerning THIS...

[roxandorox]

Well, I thought it was because you see the Dutch flag in the middle of the screen and its not the French flag because those golden thingy's on the side of the flag. Wondered about the uniforms too.

[fendr93]

I'd like to know, what is the Beethoven's music ?

[swanningaround]

fendr. This work is definitely written by Beethoven and given the catalog number of Op. 91. It is often refered to as the "Battle Symphony". It is usally called "Wellington's Victory". Beethoven considered it one of his finest works. He specifically mentions this in his note of thanks to the performing musicians stating "....my long-cherished ardent wish to lay one of my great works upon the altar of the Fatherland under the present conditions".

[fendr93]

Thank you for your answer swanningaround.

[roxandorox]

@ 2.02, the Dutch cavalry charching @ waterloo :D!?

[sunwarrior88]

Ok, will add my .2 cents' worth! (1) Whichever of the many battles this music commemorates, it doesn't detract from the fact it is just one more example of the composer's greatness; (2) Whomever it was who commenetd about the UK ALWAYS being driven by the almighty dollar or pound, he/she was right on! Oh, and two more; Naapolean was a great strategist and with the one exception of going into Russia in winter, usually made the right call; many old soldiers were nothing more than criminals!

[Tokkemon]

Now we know where Tchaikovsky got his idea for 1812 from!

[TheTristan1954]

but ok if Napoleon had won this battle Louis van Beethoven didn't wrote his 9th symphony for the congres of Vienna maybe (Alle Menschen werden Brüder)

[nbarry45]

Beethoven didn't write his 9th Symphony until nine years after the Congress of Vienna. He had long admired the British for their parliamentary government, and only the continental wars kept him from performing concerts there before his deafness set in.

[TheTristan1954]

About this disastre of Waterloo (for the French) if Blücher was only one hour in retard Napoleon finished Wellington and his aliies but shit happens

[LordGeorgeRodney]

@TheTristan1954

hardly since Wellington had repelled every attack that Napoleon had attempted

It would have been the same as Salamanca Vitoria etc....

[PandaMishima]

@TheTristan1954

Or as they say in France, Merde!

[keltalas1]

I think you did a mistake : You showed few pictures of Waterloo although it is the battle of Vitoria but whatever...the song is beautiful !

[tizfrreecharm]

Thank you. Very nice. Who's the band?Since 2 of 2 is entitled the 'Victory Symphony", doesn't this make, um, ten? :)

[CocoBabe421]

its blüchers and wellingtons victory

[swanningaround]

Coco. Much as I hate to say it, It was Wellington's Victory. Nothing to do with von Blücher - I think you mean Thomas Graham. It was an allied victory, with British, Spanish and Portugese troops as victors. The French were vastly outnumbered (2:1) and virtually leaderless, as Jourdan was sick. The French army had been depleted for other "eastern adventures" like the attack on Moscow.

[swanningaround]

It was NOT Blücher's victory!!! He was not even involved in the battle. There were no Preussian units in this battle. The allies were British, Portugese and Spanish. Please re-read what I just said.

PS: You are getting confused with the Battle of Waterloo - Blücher was a victor there - not at Vitoria.

[dondonp12004]

"God save the Queen!" Thanks for uploading. Greetings from the United States of America.

[flyawayseven]

this is a very nice version! what CD is it from?

[Markooo1986]

What is not said is that a few months before this battle, Napoleon lost is army of 600 000 men coming back from Russia. So, this battle was only to finish the french army at its lower point. But UK take it for a GREAT battle, as usual, the british imperialism take all the benefit at the lowest cost

[backnumber1662]

the British had been fighting Napoleon since 1801 the Russians in 1805 (Vth Coalition) and in 1806-7 (VIth Coaltion) and again in 1812

[Markooo1986]

eeeeeeeeeee ok ... it doesnt change the fact that Waterloo happenned in 1815 and that Napoleon lost 600 000 soldiers two years and and half before. When british attacked, Napoleon was at his lowest. But when you read the history of GB, you see that this is what they are always doing ... UK has always been led by money. I f Napoleon had contribute to their money, they would not have fought against him.

[doyourthanghunni]

woooooooooooooooooo

[SwabiaHendy]

nice nice nice

tommorow we have a classtest about this stuff of music

[MattPakkigan]

perfect!!!

[anaaeiou]

mas guay todavía!