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  • Sometimes I wonder if our friends are genetically predisposed... Though I know this sound peculiar...

  • It does sound a little peculiar. But, i think i know what you mean :)

  • Its funny, because its true in some cases. But its just like being polite in public. Lord knows there are enough impolite yt'ers that crawl around! Good vloggie, and i suppose we make worthy our own friendships by action, rather than comment. I think making that effort, in real life, cant be substituted! :D

  • "Actions speak louder than words"

    Although on the Internet, we have to make do with words most of the time :)

  • saw you on twitter

  • I'm pretty easy to find. No strange new names :)

  • I'm still resisting Facebook I don't like the idea of having to sign up just to have a look around. If I do cave in I wouldn't be thrilled with people I know irl finding me. I came to the internet in the first place because I wanted to expand my options and meet different people. I can see Facebook has it's benefits but "collecting" old schoolmates and co-workers isn't one that appeals to me.

  • I resisted FB for a long time too & was encouraged to join by some YT friends. I thought it would all be about keeping in contact with my Internet friends, but in a different way.

    Obviously that has changed somewhat. The overlap is quite interesting & i do wonder what some of my "friends" make of the mix there :)

  • I don't have a real/internet life. Everything I do tends just to be my "whole" life. It's one big ball of fun!

    Another great vlog! Thanks.

  • Thanks.

    In some ways, i would quite like to mix my two worlds up a little more. But, all the time i'm working, that will not be happening :)

  • Like you, i don't wish to appear pushy either.

    I really don't see the point of having "friends" who you don't know :)

  • Good Subject to talk about Andy.

    I think Youtube should start doing private Channels like when you block somone.I dont like or use myspace and bebo becuase its just to much people you dont know on here.Thats so true andy i agree when you said you dont want some people to find you like some bullys from school.I joined youtube becuase there are some great Railway Enthusiasts and people on here but some Railway Enthusiasts on here can be very rude.

  • Thanks Luke.

    People can be very rude in all walks of life, i'm afraid.

    I do think that sites like MySpace & bebo are aimed at & used by, younger people. I have a feeling that they might be more likely to be more open with information, or accepting friends than older people.

    I could be wrong though :)

  • Thanks.

    So far i've managed to avoid the Farm Town type of distractions over at FB. But, they do seem very popular :)

  • Though I don't see the point of friend requests on YouTube except to receive spam, I accept requests from people that I already know from here... I see no need to branch out my online life. If anyone from my past really wanted to find me, maybe I'd have a reason to be worried...

  • I sometimes wonder if quite a lot of peoiple regret going onto sites like FB? I've read about people leaving because of all the hassle & work it can cause, trying to keep up.

    That's why i still try & keep it all at arms length :)

  • LOL I leave YouTube for two days and catching up takes half a week! I already know what you're talking about...

    but somehow I wouldn't want things to be any other way. On the rare times when I have answered all my comments and replies I almost feel lonely!

  • This has become part of our extended family in a weird way hasn't it? We feel lost without that contact :)

  • I'm actually starting to find this a slight problem in that I have accepted friend requests on Facebook from people I'm not sure I want anything to do with at all. I think this is something we are all going to have to learn to deal with one way or another. It's all a bit weird. I guess one answer is to just be as clear as you can in your own mind about what you want from these sites and open to the idea that things change too.

  • I know a few people who have done that Dean. That's why i only accept certain people.

    Maybe the fact that i've always been a little wary of FB helps. In a way, i was dragging kicking & screaming onto the site.

    They may well have been a good thing in retrospect :)

  • There is a certain uneasiness about getting friend requests from people you don't know. I've been on facebook for a few years but never really used it much except to keep in contact with my stepdaughters who were avid users - now that it has turned into a giant social network for adults as well, the game has changed.

  • Just today i received 3 friend requests from people I don't know, although they were mutual friends with other people I know. *ignore* I tried to ask someone once how I knew them (maybe they have an anonymous name on YT ) and he got quite offended. double *ignore*! LOL

  • I am going to have to learn how to compartmentalize my facebook worlds like Blink. Having family and old school friends and internet friends mixing is weird anyway - imagine having them all over at the same time for a party. um....NOT!

    good video Andy - you're not coming up in my sub list! arg! will have to go back and browse 'manually' hahaha

  • That could well be a very interesting party/evening!

    Can i bring my camera?

    I've had friend requests like that & i ignore them too. I find it strange that these people expect me to know them.

    I'm sure some people use FB in a completely differebt way to me. I do wonder if these are people who are relatively inexperienced on the Internet? :)

  • I started a fan page for my youtube so i can seperate and almost keep myself safer. I even have doen this to keep my family/real friends safer. Anyone can be a fan on FB but i am now being very picky about who i let in my facebook main site. I have even taken down photos/info from a lot of sites. Like you say i have my real life/internet 'brand' life. People need to be more realistic about these 'friend; sites. Great video by the way.

  • I'm happy to share certain info etc on FB. But, that's the one site i'm pretty wary about. So, i'm usually careful about what that info is :)

  • People cross the line and get hurt when they share personal info about themselves in emails to people they dont know. We have to be realistic and know that internet association does not mean friendship these days. It may in some rare cases, but 98% of the time people are not true friends on the internet social networking sites. For example, where are all these 'friends' when you are moving house etc...? LOL

  • I'm constantly amazed by some of the things that people do reveal here. I became "friends" with somebody on FB recently who has their home address on their profile. WTF!?

    I suspect that when you're moving house, most of your online friends would probably be thousands of miles away across the Atlantic ;)

  • I try and seperate my internet/reali life. I agree with you. pIn my experience people do think that just because you have maybe been within 10 yards of them, are both on youtube or both on the internet that you are now friends. It doesnt work like that. I think facebook, youtube, myspace etc pages use words that like'friends' losely. To be my real true friend you have to earn it and it takes time. My sound harsh but its true. I think FB etc should change friends to aquantainces or another word.

  • I know "friends" might not be the best word to use on these sites. But FB etc use it because it makes it all seem more inviting & well, friendly.

    I do believe that we can make real friends on the Internet & i feel i've done that. Although i do accept that i wouldn't class everyone as a friend. i guess there are different levels to it all?

    On YT & Twitter we tend to mix with like minded people, whereas on FB, it's a bit more of a free for all. That's why i feel FB is a little different :)

  • Wait, wait, wait...you mean your real name ISN'T Andy Mooseman????

    ;)

    Sandi

  • I refer you to a video i made a few months back ;)

    It does still amaze me how many people think my name really is Andy Mooseman. Scary stuff! :)

  • Love your shirt!

    I live in fear that clients from work and even my co workers will find me on here and tease me. My family members just think I am strange for having conversations and even relationships with people that I dont "know".

  • The shirt is a reminder of when Hendrix played on the pier in Hastings in 1967. I'd loved to have seen that show. I've not met anyone who saw it either.

    For me, the fear is more of trying to have to explain what i'm doing here & why i'm doing it. I know they just won't "get it" :)

  • I think many of us feel the same way.

    We talked about in different video comments, but especially don't like RL friends who watch but never interact, its like being a pipping tom imo.

  • I do get the occasional comments for RL friends.

    I don't really have any RL friends who understand the Community aspect of YT. That makes a difference. We tend to comment for that reason, as much as anything else i think. It's our way of showing support for our fellow vloggers.

    Obviously some videos strike a chord as well, or really interest us :)

  • All my worlds collided on Facebook. People from work, family, classmates I haven't seen in 25 years, my 70+ Star Wars friends, 100+ YouTube friends, etc. It was overwhelming at first, but nbwulf showed me how to separate my worlds, and it's easier to deal with them all now.

    And there are quite a few people I would rather not be friends with, and I have just removed them from Facebook and Twitter. No one has complained yet. Most know that arguing with me is futile anyway. :)

  • *writes note "don't mess with Jenn"*

    You're right, worlds do collide on FB. That's a good way of putting it. It's a real crossover site isn't it. That can be both a good thing & a bad thing.

    I guess it depends on how you deal with it? I'll have to ask for advice if it all gets too much :)

  • Hi ya Billy! How are you sunny boy?

  • While several IRL friends have become so thru the internet - once they are on that side of the fence, I use other medium to communicate (other than FB or twitter etc. Phones and e-mail are the primary modes) As far as FB, I feel it presumptuous on my part to ask someone to be a friend (a quirk) I figure if they want to, they will ask me - and if they don't - that's fine too. I don't take this too seriously. If someone asks that I don't know - I decline.

  • So far - no one on work has found me online. A very good thing. Those are the only ones I avoid. And as far as relatives - my son is the only one I friended on FB - just to keep tabs :)

  • I've had one person at work tell me they've seen me on YT. After a rather sharp intake of breath, we had a little chat about it. He was very complimentary.

    Both of my kids are on FB & keep coming up as suggested friends. I've told my daughter not to worry, i wouldn't subject her to me online as well! :)

  • As i said. I tend not to ask people either. it's just as well some do though, as we'd never have any friends ;)

    I've already told some people at work that i won't be adding them, or accepting rerquests, for the reasons i mentioned. They understand my stance far more than i thought they would. One person even said they wish they'd been more careful themselves.

    I'm sure some people feel pressure to accept? :).

  • Yes, there are people I'd rather not see again, least of all add to my friends in Facebook. But they're there, asking to be added, as if nothing had happened between us before. I'm told by others to just let bygones be bygones, and really, I forgive easily. As long as the other person acknowledges their wrongdoing and says sorry. In the absence of that, there is no forgiving and no moving on. I know this veers slightly away from topic, but it's a big reason why I avoid certain people.

  • You're not the only one i know of who has had those kind of people asking to be "friends" on FB.

    I agree with your reasoning Gerry.

    I think there are a number of reasons why people might do this & that may well end up being the topic for another vlog! :)

  • I feel similar to the routine of adding certain relatives as "friends" on these various sites. I just have no need for it. It's enough that I argue with them at holiday functions every 10 years when I finally cave into the nagging and attend even though I'd rather jab my skull with pointy objects.

    And on YouTube, the "friends" list is completely pointless on ALL levels.

  • LOL @ your comments about your relatives.

    Luckily, i've not had any of my relatives turn up on FB yet. Some i could manage, but not others.

    I know your feelings about YT "friends" & obviously agree with you on that :)

  • After amassing a whopping 60 subscribers on YT a heckler turned up. I decided not to challenge the clown and start anew. As you know I never did. Well I guess i should never say never! (Needless to say, I wasn't driven off by one subscriber!)

  • I'll admit i wondered what had happened there.

    I've had a couple of issues here on YT, in the past. but have always thought "i'm not going to allow one idiot to ruin my fun".

    I'm glad you stayed as you were :)

  • I'm your secret stalker but shhhhhhh don't tell anyone = )

    I refuse to stalk you on FB coz FB is against my religion ***snorts***

  • It can be our little secret Pip ;)

    It seems that quite a lot of people are very anti FB. Any particulrar reason why?

    As i said, i'm not the sites greatest fan. But it does have it's uses. I imagine it could get very addictive though, if you let it :)

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