Yeah the "Illegal war" thing again, never understood the distinction myself. To me -legal- is what the man with the gun says it is. Sure occasionally the scales of justice will receive a nudge, ex post facto but only if the offender is unfortunate enough to lose the war. I don't see Interpol chomping at the bit to dig Tony Blair out of his Mansion.
SPANISH: Como siempre, el Sr. Molyneux usa las palabras correctas para analizar una situacion que muchos consideran importante, pero el, en su sabiduria las explica con logica y buen sentido del humor!
ENGLISH:Like always...Mr. Molyneux has the right words and commentary!!! HAHAHA I love what he said at the end...it is so true: "...until we all stop listening to it, we all are Monica Lewinsky"
This video will be Twittered, Facebooked, blogged, bebo, Buzzed...and more.
Stefan never fails to give a perspective I had never considered before, allowing a perception of events that truly illustrates the absurdity inherent in our current system.
It means that death (the greater the numbers, the more dismissable) is more acceptable than sex in the public eye - ie. the Thanatos instinct has taken over.
That's what happens in an over-pious state like the US where their values have been warped over the past century. Sex is bad. Locust-like consumption, corruption, and the killing of brown people throughout the world is A-OK though as long as it helps them increase the basket of goods they can buy for a given amount of money over time. It's sick. A US company can get away with anything if it increases shareholder value.
DAMN this is a powerful fuckin video are leaders really are crooks. It takes a narcist and delusional person to think they should lead complete strangers or call themselves defenders of the constitution....What im i doing no one will ever read this so blah blah more freedoms bla bla blah no more central GOVT blah blah fucking blah.God that felt good sort of cathartic you know?Any ways anyone else think Lady Gaga is over exposed?Im going down to the supermarket.Need anything?
Strauss-Kahn was beginning to hold the IMF accountable for their terrible terror on the human race, he also wanted to run for french president and he said in an interview two weeks before he was charged that he thought that Sarkozy would likely frame him for rape or something similar as he admitted to liking the ladies, so yeah, he has no friends at all. I support him, and I have to ask why a rich rich man would not just hire a prostitute, a maid? really?
@aghoranathi - Perhaps they didn't want a prostitute because a prostitute would trade sexual services voluntarily. Ordering the deaths of millions and bankrupting millions more is fair game to politicians, why would rape be beneath them?
@Shezmu Yeah I agree, just not the brightest move if you want to frame someone, especially when Strauss predicted two weeks before hand that something like this would happen.
@RaytheonPwnsYou - You have to admit that it is very engaging and entertaining just trying to grasp just how insane all of the recent shit is. Though I don't think it's the same type of entertainment that the mainstream left/right dichotomy viewer is getting.
@Shezmu This is true. Honestly I cant even watch it at all any more. I try every once in a while just to see what they're trying to push but I just end up wanting to repeatedly slam my head off the wall.
@RaytheonPwnsYou - To this day I still can't wrap my mind around the idea that the federal government thought that they could just make Bin Laden's death story be something they stole from a Michael Bay flick and that no one call them out on that? Do these scum have any respect for copyrights?
Seriously, Stef... I think you should go with an all white background like the Big Think videos. That would look hella profesh. When I get the extra money, I would gladly help you set up your audio and lighting needs. :)
You identify the ideology, better phrased, mind-control, in effect accross the west. The religious fundamentalist fanatics who control the media, want to foist they're moral ideology, to obscure reality. War, Sex, and scandal, will do nicely in the brainwashing the Nation, How-To-Do-It, Manual. Works everytime. Smaoke and Mirrors, everytime to stop the Nation looking at its ethical bank-balance!
You criticize governments; what's your views on Placement Agencies (stuffing).
Should these be shot down as illegal? I mean, if you think about it, what they're doing, they're like the banks, charging people 40-80% of their income so that companies don't have the hassle of dealing with health benefits, full time employment, etc.
Why don't you Stef talk about such important issues?
Everyone loves to rant about Arnold Schwarzenegger's sperm and Paris Hilton's titties, and very few invest time and energy in the important problems of today's society (forget about the future generations for a moment).
I know the list is endless but it reminds of former German minister for economics and later "defense" who had to resign a couple of months ago because he copied some parts of his doctoral thesis and not because he sent thousands of Germans to Afghanistan. Insanity indeed.
I wasn't going to watch this video because I thought it was about shallow stuff, but it's a really heavy discussion about what this says about us the public. To paraphrase, anyone turning a blind eye to the State shafting them is just being another Monica Lewinsky.
@a11m0n I think stef exaggerated the number of death people during the blockade, but it is a fact that a lot of iraquies(i dont claim to know how many) died during the blockade from very preventable diseases, because in the sanctions, the UK and US were afraid that if that medicine reach iraq, it could be use to make biological weapons, which is of course nonsense, is collective punishment.
@a11m0n and if only 3 million children died in the blockade is it ok then? your statement reeks of ignorance. if even ONE SINGLE PERSON DIES because the state decides it is so then THAT is more than enough of a crime for the state to be abolished. NO ONE has the right to decide who lives or dies and when they should go. imagine in the 70's when you were a child and the oil crisis of the 70's cause a blockade against the USA and you lost a sibling, would you be asking for proofs of deaths then?
@hez1919 Thank you for your reply. I did not make a statement, I asked an honest question about documentation. And as for your question the answer is yes. If someone close to me died in that way I would want accurate information published about the it. Peace.
@a11m0n i don't have the figures to hand but if one looks at the increased rates of infant mortality prior to sanctions and then after then one can extrapolate a figure of around about the one quoted. Prior to sanctions Iraq had a very good record regarding its' level of development.
I'm torn here. Personally, I want 99.99% of them out of office, period. If they can't be thrown out for the heinous crimes of starting illegal wars, et al, then sexual picadillos will do for me. Three down and who knows how many more to go!
@MigDanskeren I don't disagree with you but I would suspect that most of them are already repressed. I think getting into power afords them the opportunity to unrepress themselves. Still, at the moment, any excuse to get rid of as many as possible is a good thing in my book.
The other thing that Stef needs to understand is, that the entire reason why we have pathological people in power, is because normal people don't want power over others to begin with.
My father was ponerogenic in every sense of the word; in addition to being a sexual deviant, he is a narcissist who wants to be a billionaire. I have kept myself out of mainstream society since the day I left school, because I know what the consequences could be if I don't.
@petrus4 I agree with you on this, Politicians or those that aspire to be, are a certain personality type, this is nothing new, many of our founding fathers in America did the same thing, this also goes for many Religious leaders. Jefferson had kids with his slaves.
I believe we should judge our politicians on how effective they are on the Job. that they do not murder innocent people or start illegal wars , give our money to corporations, make laws that only benefit the rich.
Thank you! You say exactly what I've been saying about the personalities like this.. think about Hillery Clinton as a leader of a bank and you get it.. this is the overwhelming evidence of the sociopaths personalities that are "in charge" in front of our face.
some of these people are just straight out of their ever-loving minds! and media is just as culpable for putting these people in charge without due diligence or any kind of a real knowledge of who or what that person is really is all about... none of them are worth two plug nickles or a tinker's damn.. the punishment for their foibles is rarely what they have perpetuated themselves and we all wait for the series of it and pay the price of all of it when it is over...wtf evah man! NEXT!
I don't buy the idea here, ie. "we condemn sexual straying, but not war-mongering", it's more complex than that
In the Anglosphere with its Protestant heritage, there's a default instinct to be wary of those who govern for signs of moral corruption, & remove them from authority if they show it
I'd rather have that than be like Italy (with Berlusconi) or France (with the predator Strauss-Kahn), where it's all permitted with a shrug, creating a debased endemic governing culture
@kcirdrab Anglo-saxon puritanism is the way then? I am glad I don't live in countries with strong protestant heritage. The notion that sexual misbehavior is a measure of personal integrity has its root in the monotheistic religions aversion about it, branding all sexuality a sin. Like all suppressions, this has its twisted outlets in one way or another, even on societal scale. I rather live in a "debased endemic governing culture", than in a sex-aversive, prudish, shame culture.
@eydos Self discipline (not Puritanism) by the Anglo-Saxons has conquered the world that u see around u, the same way it did for the Greeks & the Romans
We aren't ashamed of sexuality, we just believe like most things in humanity, moderation & self restraint yields greater rewards than running around with it hanging out in the wind giving vent to animal passion without man's self control
Sex without love is a pretty hollowing experience, & true love between 2 people is a rare thing
@kcirdrab Where sexual misconduct is not seen as offending, there is nothing to resist against. Moderation and self-restraint is always a requirement that assumes decadence from the part of that which then subsequently becomes resisted and in the process of resisting actually gives birth to conflicts that justify its resistance, yet its blind to the fact, that this very restraint spawned the hidden, guilt-laden behaviors. Europe in many ways is better off than your world dominion.
@eydos I don't accept the picture yr attempting to paint of Anglosphere sexuality as riven with hang-ups bears any relation to the actuality, & the Marquis de Sade was not an Englishman
By denying there's anything to resist in human nature u deny the division in man's nature between humanity & the jungle from which it emerged, in doing this yr either being disingenuous, r retarded, or r a total innocent
I would doubt it's the 2nd, would admire the 3rd, but suspect it's the 1st of the options
@eydos I have a paternal uncle who is a convicted paedophile, a father who is a serial adulterer, and a younger brother with an illegitimate child. There is a genetic predisposition towards sexual deviancy within my family, and I have experienced it myself; yet I keep it restrained. Unlike the rest of them, I remain permanently celibate, and not only for my own sake.
If you are not someone who has to restrain a monster inside of you, please do not be excessively quick to judge others who do.
@petrus4 I was thinking about quite normal sexual acts, like a cunnilingus or a blowjob, I hardly believe these - lewd acts as they may be - qualify one as a sexual "deviant". I was speaking about a society's general predisposition towards sex, not about aberrant forms of fetishism. And I am wholly convinced that a society with an obsessive and controlling attitude towards sexuality in general, of consensual acts (be they as pervert as they get) is what produces the aberrations you speak about.
@kcirdrab self-regulating, and moderation out the window. Self gratification , gluttony and extremism is in. What kind of world have I brought him into?
How can one find real love when people are sociopaths and superficial/shallow? I have found someone but myself am so damaged by society I don't think I will ever know how to stay 'happy'. I have it all but have this black cloud of impending doom waiting to hail anvils ...I know it sounds fatalistic but, can you blame me? How do we fix this mess?
is that a black background or did you get a green screen? if its a green screen why just make the background black, you should have made it look like you were on mars :P
I feel like such a sheep for not thinking of it like this on my own: the acts that politicians do that make people want to impeach them, vs., the abhorrent policies and initiatives they enact while on the job which gets them nowhere near as strong a reprimand....
Exactly! Who cares! This is news? There aren't enough real problems globally & economically? The news reminds me of freaking 7th grade - which is fine if you're 12. I am soooooo sick of the crap they call news these days
This is what the monopolization of political power (oligarchy) results in - the WORST, most damaged, disordered people seek such offices.
The same is true of economic life - the most psychopathic and reckless (there is a point where "risk taking" does become a social liability) rise to the top in a paradigm that shamelessly endorses USURIOUS transactions ("profiteering"/parasitism.)
State-sponsored FrankenCapitalism, like the kind that exists now, is anti libertarian. In a free market, usurious transactions would be risky because there would be no lender of last resort or a government to bail out a firm's bad decisions. While overly aggressive quests for profit could still exist in such a system, lenders would have to be much more disciplined and satisfied with slower gains or suffer crushing financial loss.
The problem is that people define "capitalism" in all sorts of ways. The same goes for "socialism."
By "capitalism" I refer to some specific features that only statism can afford, not simply private ownership, trade, or a natural/free market. THOSE features are embodied in economic theories like MUTUALISM or AGORISM (which are variously identified as "individualist" or "market socialism.")
Individualist/Market-Socialist Anarchists like Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Benjamin Tucker identified rent, interest lending, loss-protected corporatism, wage-labor and mark-ups exceeding the REAL COST of production as being exploitative/parasitical. HOWEVER, they also thought such things would be very limited (or outright not be able to exist at all) w/o state coercion, and free markets would naturally tend toward "equal exchange."
ANOTHER important feature of this type of anti-state market economics was a return to the concept that "ownership" REQUIRES use/possession. It is the state which behaves as guarantor of property beyond this (excess), allowing for the creation of de facto plutocracy and the re-creation of old world "nobility" and land-lords. The statist mercantile revolutions of the Enlightenment erred in applying royal conceits about property to all men.
I'm NOT a Mutualist/Agorist. I DO think they are better than state-capitalism, which invariably sour even more and become FASCISM.
"Individualism" doesn't sufficiently account for how liberty is lost to begin with - the impoverishment of some and not others, which can occur without human contrivance. "Individualism" would still rely on "good faith" to not resurrect tyranny in such circumstances - which hasn't EVER worked.
The truth is that "property" is a matter of inter-subjective consensus. That standards for the acquisition/maintenance of property have varied so much over human history is evidence of this. And we can discount theological justifications for property out of hand - they were the basis of royalist claims in tyrannies of old.
Possession is fact - human need is a fact; "property" is ALWAYS decided socially. The rejection of authority AND title are symbiotic.
@OuTofJoY Every society is anti-libertarian. Every heard of the law of equal liberty? One man's freedom is another man's slavery. Your freedom ends where another begins.
Liberty exists BY the laws of nature. It's not so much a matter of liberty being circumscribed by such, but that it has no existence apart from this.
Society is necessary for survival and prosperity. IOW it IS the vehicle of liberty, rightly understood.
Fantastic hyper-individualism is a childish conceit, and has no existence. It is a non-sequitor. Liberty is something with existence. We are always in negotiation with others.
good job Stephan. You know, the bible says more about money than it does about sex, yet American evangelicals blink at a century of the Fed ripping off the poor to line the pockets of the rich thru inflation, and socialist redistribution schemes. Let's grow up folks! Your moral outrage should be over these murderous wars and larcenous public policies that have destroyed us all, not over who is consuming what herb or sleeping in whose bed.
"Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and SELL THAT THOU HAST, AND GIVE TO THE POOR, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. (...) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a RICH MAN to enter into the kingdom of God." (Mt 19:21, 24)
"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the MONEYCHANGERS, and the seats of them that SOLD doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of THIEVES." (Mt 21:12-13)
"(...) The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord; (...) And the second is like, namely this, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. There is none other commandment greater than these." (Mk 12:29, 31)
Matthew 25:31-46 (on "the Last Judgement") is also pretty clear about who will and will not be saved; the criteria being the fulfillment of the above mentioned moral imperatives.
"(...) (N)either said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; BUT THEY HAD ALL THINGS COMMON. (...) Neither was there ANY AMONG THEM THAT LACKED: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: AND DISTRIBUTION WAS MADE UNTO EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO AS HE HAD NEED." (Acts 4:32, 34-35)
Ideas/cultural progress don't exist in hermetic/partisan vacuums.
Religions are cultural phenoms. They are products of a society. I don't see any problem in a secular person acknowledging that factors as varied as Hellenic philosophy, primitive Christianity, Persian Imperial meritocracy, etc. have come down to the present and resulted in the synthesis we now have.
I think what you missed is that I was offering the quotes as a response to a CHRISTIAN "Libertarian" (capitalist.) I was illustrating the inherent contradiction of claiming to be a "follower of the biblical Jesus" and supporting market-libertarianism.
I do not view the basis or argument for stateless communism as being rooted in the dogmatic claims of the Christian religion. I'm a theological non-cognitivist (atheist who finds the whole question of "God" absurd.)
The press will always focus on these types of "scandals" because they can do it safely. Its a convenient way to say to the public "hey look were exposing the corruption of blah blah" when in all actuality they will never touch the real corruption. Like you said, kill a million people-- no problem. Tweet your meat and it turns into a 3 week investigation.
How about if we try a 3rd approach and say that these politicians show lack of morality/ judgment in ALL areas. You can't separate the 2.
Two sides of the same coin.
I understand human frailties, but I don't want a man representing me or governing my State, who doesn't have the self control to keep his d--k in his pants.
It makes me question his judgment in all other areas that effect my life.
I look for the same self control in a husband, or an employee.
One problem with this video was he sort of went "Look how terrible the acts of these people were, it's disgraceful in every way" and then finished with "but these sexual acts really arent that big a deal in the scheme of things". So was it bad or wasn't it?
@alistairproductions The point is what people have chosen to care enough to do something about it?. Bombing Yugoslavia or having oral sex in the oval office? Events say that society currently has it's priorities back to front. Care about the mass murder before the inappropriate sex.
Since we are all collective illusions anyway, I'm just going to enjoy the ride down the rabbit hole and see what's on the other side. Bummer about your having kids though.All that concern for naught.
Let's not be so quick on Dominique Strauss-Kahn. There are parts of that story that seem to show he is guilty, but there are parts that make it apparent that he was set up with a false rape trap.
It is really gratifying to say he is guilty, but there are questions. The political motive is to keep sorkozy in office, as DSK was the #1 opponent in the prez race.
There are a number of reports that show he was trying to work with v bury greece & report on the missing gold in ft knox.
Hi Stef, great post, Just like to say 1 thing though, I think this is the first time I have seen you wear a decent shirt for a while nowt! lol, Don't forget man your representing the freedom lovers of the world esecially when your appearing on mainstream TV shows like RT etc :) Keep up the good work.
@RPFS2008 "War is only immoral in a fuzzy abstract way". Almost everybody (if not everbody) has seen or experienced violence (including children). To put that experience as being less objectionable than sexual betrayal is an epic morality fail.
@TheLagamorph What are you talking about. Philosophy is supposed to be nuanced and he is painting these people with a broad brush. Straus-Kahn was in line for the presidency of France. His arrest could have been a take-down especially when you consider that the same thing happened to another banker, Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Omar, shortly afterward. There is no coincidence with power. Don't try to make my thinking out to be simplistic.
I think Kierkegaard predicted that all this would happen. The more popular technologically driven media progresses the more out of touch with our own lives we will become.
If I was a bodybuilder/giant actor/governor, I would have sex with whoever I want, whenever I want, however I want. I'd have a whole frickin harem. Its not like he can't pay to support them.
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youneekk 8 months ago
Yeah the "Illegal war" thing again, never understood the distinction myself. To me -legal- is what the man with the gun says it is. Sure occasionally the scales of justice will receive a nudge, ex post facto but only if the offender is unfortunate enough to lose the war. I don't see Interpol chomping at the bit to dig Tony Blair out of his Mansion.
KnockoffNigeI 8 months ago
6:09 You swear to god? You must be kidding ...
qminusis 8 months ago
SPANISH: Como siempre, el Sr. Molyneux usa las palabras correctas para analizar una situacion que muchos consideran importante, pero el, en su sabiduria las explica con logica y buen sentido del humor!
ENGLISH:Like always...Mr. Molyneux has the right words and commentary!!! HAHAHA I love what he said at the end...it is so true: "...until we all stop listening to it, we all are Monica Lewinsky"
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drmarthacastro 8 months ago
Stefan never fails to give a perspective I had never considered before, allowing a perception of events that truly illustrates the absurdity inherent in our current system.
Pearls of wisdom, always...
indefiance24 8 months ago
Great points !
greg357159 8 months ago
Wow, spot on Stef; as usual!
STAB1L 8 months ago
I want the red room back!
cafejose 8 months ago
Wish I had that list he cited of the numbers of congresspeople involved in this, that, and the other forms of egregious behaviors....
carolm62 8 months ago
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Right on the money, again!
PortlandsTransport 8 months ago
And to think there are 10's of MILLIONS of people who ACTUALLY think these politician assclowns can create a utopian society.
Insane.
ashane77 8 months ago
do a search for Burzynski: Cancer Is Serious Business
ehpl 8 months ago
It means that death (the greater the numbers, the more dismissable) is more acceptable than sex in the public eye - ie. the Thanatos instinct has taken over.
theylive23 8 months ago
That's what happens in an over-pious state like the US where their values have been warped over the past century. Sex is bad. Locust-like consumption, corruption, and the killing of brown people throughout the world is A-OK though as long as it helps them increase the basket of goods they can buy for a given amount of money over time. It's sick. A US company can get away with anything if it increases shareholder value.
Rockerman1928 8 months ago
Come on Stephan. No one thought the Governator was a "family values" kind of guy. He is much too gropey for that.
BornOfSong 8 months ago
Keep pressing "5" of the horizontal line of the keyboard.
popstavri 8 months ago
DAMN this is a powerful fuckin video are leaders really are crooks. It takes a narcist and delusional person to think they should lead complete strangers or call themselves defenders of the constitution....What im i doing no one will ever read this so blah blah more freedoms bla bla blah no more central GOVT blah blah fucking blah.God that felt good sort of cathartic you know?Any ways anyone else think Lady Gaga is over exposed?Im going down to the supermarket.Need anything?
jasrogg 8 months ago
The red wall looked sharper... Now, it looks like you're standing in front of a black bed sheet. You're still awesome.
hob976 8 months ago
Strauss-Kahn was beginning to hold the IMF accountable for their terrible terror on the human race, he also wanted to run for french president and he said in an interview two weeks before he was charged that he thought that Sarkozy would likely frame him for rape or something similar as he admitted to liking the ladies, so yeah, he has no friends at all. I support him, and I have to ask why a rich rich man would not just hire a prostitute, a maid? really?
aghoranathi 8 months ago
@aghoranathi - Perhaps they didn't want a prostitute because a prostitute would trade sexual services voluntarily. Ordering the deaths of millions and bankrupting millions more is fair game to politicians, why would rape be beneath them?
Shezmu 8 months ago
@Shezmu Yeah I agree, just not the brightest move if you want to frame someone, especially when Strauss predicted two weeks before hand that something like this would happen.
aghoranathi 8 months ago
As Trudeau said (I think) keep the bedroom out of politics
4est242 8 months ago
Stef. Your a professional.
Debatewithme 8 months ago
33 degrees.
skyarcher 8 months ago
Mainstream "news" isn't news. Its fluff and mindless entertainment (garbage).
RaytheonPwnsYou 8 months ago
@RaytheonPwnsYou - You have to admit that it is very engaging and entertaining just trying to grasp just how insane all of the recent shit is. Though I don't think it's the same type of entertainment that the mainstream left/right dichotomy viewer is getting.
Shezmu 8 months ago
@Shezmu This is true. Honestly I cant even watch it at all any more. I try every once in a while just to see what they're trying to push but I just end up wanting to repeatedly slam my head off the wall.
RaytheonPwnsYou 8 months ago
@RaytheonPwnsYou - To this day I still can't wrap my mind around the idea that the federal government thought that they could just make Bin Laden's death story be something they stole from a Michael Bay flick and that no one call them out on that? Do these scum have any respect for copyrights?
Shezmu 8 months ago
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Who in their RIGHT MIND would remain under a system of abuse & torture?
wind0wninja 8 months ago
I could have sworn I made a post in the comment section. Did it get deleted or something? Strange.
alique087 8 months ago
don't want to belittle what you're saying, because i totally agree, but that's an awesome shirt man
chitchcott 8 months ago
I resent that comment, Stef...I'm not Monica Lewinsky, I'm Marilyn Monroe.
MabusZero 8 months ago
We are all Monica Lewinsky - I liked that.
heikophilo 8 months ago
Seriously, Stef... I think you should go with an all white background like the Big Think videos. That would look hella profesh. When I get the extra money, I would gladly help you set up your audio and lighting needs. :)
jsudekum 8 months ago
You identify the ideology, better phrased, mind-control, in effect accross the west. The religious fundamentalist fanatics who control the media, want to foist they're moral ideology, to obscure reality. War, Sex, and scandal, will do nicely in the brainwashing the Nation, How-To-Do-It, Manual. Works everytime. Smaoke and Mirrors, everytime to stop the Nation looking at its ethical bank-balance!
jamerfunk 8 months ago
You criticize governments; what's your views on Placement Agencies (stuffing).
Should these be shot down as illegal? I mean, if you think about it, what they're doing, they're like the banks, charging people 40-80% of their income so that companies don't have the hassle of dealing with health benefits, full time employment, etc.
Why don't you Stef talk about such important issues?
CalgaryAlpineStyle 8 months ago
@CalgaryAlpineStyle
Everyone loves to rant about Arnold Schwarzenegger's sperm and Paris Hilton's titties, and very few invest time and energy in the important problems of today's society (forget about the future generations for a moment).
CalgaryAlpineStyle 8 months ago
Kahn is down with the swirl?? cool!
deshaebeasley 8 months ago
I know the list is endless but it reminds of former German minister for economics and later "defense" who had to resign a couple of months ago because he copied some parts of his doctoral thesis and not because he sent thousands of Germans to Afghanistan. Insanity indeed.
RemoryDrake 8 months ago
Thank you for your good sense Stefan.
georgealexander 8 months ago
I wasn't going to watch this video because I thought it was about shallow stuff, but it's a really heavy discussion about what this says about us the public. To paraphrase, anyone turning a blind eye to the State shafting them is just being another Monica Lewinsky.
petewalker274 8 months ago
Please provide documentation for five million Iraqi babies killed by the blockade before the invasion.
a11m0n 8 months ago
@a11m0n I think stef exaggerated the number of death people during the blockade, but it is a fact that a lot of iraquies(i dont claim to know how many) died during the blockade from very preventable diseases, because in the sanctions, the UK and US were afraid that if that medicine reach iraq, it could be use to make biological weapons, which is of course nonsense, is collective punishment.
megatherium100 8 months ago
@megatherium100 OK. Thank you.
a11m0n 8 months ago
@a11m0n and if only 3 million children died in the blockade is it ok then? your statement reeks of ignorance. if even ONE SINGLE PERSON DIES because the state decides it is so then THAT is more than enough of a crime for the state to be abolished. NO ONE has the right to decide who lives or dies and when they should go. imagine in the 70's when you were a child and the oil crisis of the 70's cause a blockade against the USA and you lost a sibling, would you be asking for proofs of deaths then?
hez1919 8 months ago
@hez1919 Thank you for your reply. I did not make a statement, I asked an honest question about documentation. And as for your question the answer is yes. If someone close to me died in that way I would want accurate information published about the it. Peace.
a11m0n 8 months ago
@a11m0n i don't have the figures to hand but if one looks at the increased rates of infant mortality prior to sanctions and then after then one can extrapolate a figure of around about the one quoted. Prior to sanctions Iraq had a very good record regarding its' level of development.
TYSONHAWKE 8 months ago
Progressive Congressman = Mental Dissorder
CrooksWithoutBorders 8 months ago
Another grounding vid! Keep up the great work, cheers from Oz, I’ve asked before… any plans on a speaking tour down here???? Please?
i8uNWO 8 months ago
Excellent video. Stefan, you are Canadian? You put us Americans to shame, your knowledge of american politics.
bpachol 8 months ago
last line: beautiful!!!!
shougoo7 8 months ago
Hi Stef. Will you ever make a video about your view on the Bitcoin?
MigDanskeren 8 months ago
Stef, you're a genius
scharpilienne 8 months ago
I'm torn here. Personally, I want 99.99% of them out of office, period. If they can't be thrown out for the heinous crimes of starting illegal wars, et al, then sexual picadillos will do for me. Three down and who knows how many more to go!
steve0281 8 months ago
@steve0281
Throwing them out for sexual acts will only encourage sexually repressed politicians to take over. Not sure that's a good thing.
MigDanskeren 8 months ago
@MigDanskeren I don't disagree with you but I would suspect that most of them are already repressed. I think getting into power afords them the opportunity to unrepress themselves. Still, at the moment, any excuse to get rid of as many as possible is a good thing in my book.
steve0281 8 months ago
Stef, i just love listening to your voice and watching your bold head. It's people like you who stop me from terminating my youtube account.
kaasvaag 8 months ago
maybe it's ALL immoral, the wars AND the sexual stuff.
MensRifleAssociation 8 months ago
If you don't tweet your meat, how can you have any put in? How can you have any put in if you don't tweet your meat?
thetimman00 8 months ago
The other thing that Stef needs to understand is, that the entire reason why we have pathological people in power, is because normal people don't want power over others to begin with.
My father was ponerogenic in every sense of the word; in addition to being a sexual deviant, he is a narcissist who wants to be a billionaire. I have kept myself out of mainstream society since the day I left school, because I know what the consequences could be if I don't.
petrus4 8 months ago
@petrus4 I agree with you on this, Politicians or those that aspire to be, are a certain personality type, this is nothing new, many of our founding fathers in America did the same thing, this also goes for many Religious leaders. Jefferson had kids with his slaves.
I believe we should judge our politicians on how effective they are on the Job. that they do not murder innocent people or start illegal wars , give our money to corporations, make laws that only benefit the rich.
gilgamesh1962 8 months ago
Cities full of hatred, fear and lies
Withered hearts and cruel, tormented eyes
Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude and
Scoffing at the wise
IKilled007 8 months ago
When they turn the pages of history
When these days have passed long ago
Will they read of us with sadness
For the seeds that we let grow?
We turned our gaze
From the castles in the distance
Eyes cast down
On the path of least resistance
IKilled007 8 months ago
i cant believe that someone in the media didnt know about Arnold Schwarzenegger!!!
stimulater7 8 months ago
I have to fault you on this point: no calls for impeachment/resignation of Bush? I seem to recall a few...
mcc1789 8 months ago
My mind is not adjusting well to the non-red background, Stef.
theDHC 8 months ago 20
I know, not just the background, but the room, the natural space... :-(
cafejose 8 months ago
6:09 !!!! My Opinion of Lame-stream media,
TFaucheur 8 months ago
awesome
Jangaboo 8 months ago
THE GUN IS GOOD
THE PENIS IS EVIL
MajorButtons 8 months ago
Thank you! You say exactly what I've been saying about the personalities like this.. think about Hillery Clinton as a leader of a bank and you get it.. this is the overwhelming evidence of the sociopaths personalities that are "in charge" in front of our face.
AlterEgoTrip 8 months ago
Love the new background,lighting is great too.Pro!
scrufduf 8 months ago
Don't tweet your meat
and Don't google your sugar!
Hey, let's play a rime game, kids!
CalgaryAlpineStyle 8 months ago
some of these people are just straight out of their ever-loving minds! and media is just as culpable for putting these people in charge without due diligence or any kind of a real knowledge of who or what that person is really is all about... none of them are worth two plug nickles or a tinker's damn.. the punishment for their foibles is rarely what they have perpetuated themselves and we all wait for the series of it and pay the price of all of it when it is over...wtf evah man! NEXT!
MsJustanotherhuman 8 months ago
I don't buy the idea here, ie. "we condemn sexual straying, but not war-mongering", it's more complex than that
In the Anglosphere with its Protestant heritage, there's a default instinct to be wary of those who govern for signs of moral corruption, & remove them from authority if they show it
I'd rather have that than be like Italy (with Berlusconi) or France (with the predator Strauss-Kahn), where it's all permitted with a shrug, creating a debased endemic governing culture
kcirdrab 8 months ago 4
@kcirdrab Anglo-saxon puritanism is the way then? I am glad I don't live in countries with strong protestant heritage. The notion that sexual misbehavior is a measure of personal integrity has its root in the monotheistic religions aversion about it, branding all sexuality a sin. Like all suppressions, this has its twisted outlets in one way or another, even on societal scale. I rather live in a "debased endemic governing culture", than in a sex-aversive, prudish, shame culture.
eydos 8 months ago
@eydos Self discipline (not Puritanism) by the Anglo-Saxons has conquered the world that u see around u, the same way it did for the Greeks & the Romans
We aren't ashamed of sexuality, we just believe like most things in humanity, moderation & self restraint yields greater rewards than running around with it hanging out in the wind giving vent to animal passion without man's self control
Sex without love is a pretty hollowing experience, & true love between 2 people is a rare thing
kcirdrab 8 months ago 3
@kcirdrab Where sexual misconduct is not seen as offending, there is nothing to resist against. Moderation and self-restraint is always a requirement that assumes decadence from the part of that which then subsequently becomes resisted and in the process of resisting actually gives birth to conflicts that justify its resistance, yet its blind to the fact, that this very restraint spawned the hidden, guilt-laden behaviors. Europe in many ways is better off than your world dominion.
eydos 8 months ago
@eydos I don't accept the picture yr attempting to paint of Anglosphere sexuality as riven with hang-ups bears any relation to the actuality, & the Marquis de Sade was not an Englishman
By denying there's anything to resist in human nature u deny the division in man's nature between humanity & the jungle from which it emerged, in doing this yr either being disingenuous, r retarded, or r a total innocent
I would doubt it's the 2nd, would admire the 3rd, but suspect it's the 1st of the options
kcirdrab 8 months ago 3
@eydos I have a paternal uncle who is a convicted paedophile, a father who is a serial adulterer, and a younger brother with an illegitimate child. There is a genetic predisposition towards sexual deviancy within my family, and I have experienced it myself; yet I keep it restrained. Unlike the rest of them, I remain permanently celibate, and not only for my own sake.
If you are not someone who has to restrain a monster inside of you, please do not be excessively quick to judge others who do.
petrus4 8 months ago
@petrus4 I was thinking about quite normal sexual acts, like a cunnilingus or a blowjob, I hardly believe these - lewd acts as they may be - qualify one as a sexual "deviant". I was speaking about a society's general predisposition towards sex, not about aberrant forms of fetishism. And I am wholly convinced that a society with an obsessive and controlling attitude towards sexuality in general, of consensual acts (be they as pervert as they get) is what produces the aberrations you speak about.
eydos 8 months ago
@kcirdrab self-regulating, and moderation out the window. Self gratification , gluttony and extremism is in. What kind of world have I brought him into?
How can one find real love when people are sociopaths and superficial/shallow? I have found someone but myself am so damaged by society I don't think I will ever know how to stay 'happy'. I have it all but have this black cloud of impending doom waiting to hail anvils ...I know it sounds fatalistic but, can you blame me? How do we fix this mess?
katrastrophy 8 months ago
@katrastrophy True happiness in this world is finding a creative cause/mission that's bigger than yourself, & dedicating yourself to its achievement
kcirdrab 8 months ago
don't forget john edwards sex scandal . that makes 4!
rainbowsailormoon 8 months ago
Nice new shirt and background, Stef!
theunshaved1 8 months ago
The very nature of the power of government attracts narcissists & thieves
kcirdrab 8 months ago 9
I feel so dirty now Stefan :(
baalisgod666 8 months ago
is that a black background or did you get a green screen? if its a green screen why just make the background black, you should have made it look like you were on mars :P
DonnyHaze91 8 months ago
where did those stats about congress come from? i want to make a series of bumper stickers.
wadams19 8 months ago
Sweet threads Stef! Be sure to hang on to it for the seminal evidence!
eyejudgeeverything 8 months ago
right on brother! I applaud your skills, keep up the great work!
LECHEMOS 8 months ago
Black background, thumbs up.
viehe69 8 months ago 2
I feel like such a sheep for not thinking of it like this on my own: the acts that politicians do that make people want to impeach them, vs., the abhorrent policies and initiatives they enact while on the job which gets them nowhere near as strong a reprimand....
tygerk 8 months ago
It is all about perception. You cannot associate massive debt to a single person; but you can associate sexual escapees. That is the difference.
rainwilds 8 months ago
lol ass clowns
twistedbydsign99 8 months ago
@ Stef - can you give a source for the stats you presented on the politicians?
olecodjur 8 months ago
The Bot is Back!
TreachMarkets 8 months ago
Very Well Done on pulling that conversation out from the heap of...!
monterock100 8 months ago
Exactly! Who cares! This is news? There aren't enough real problems globally & economically? The news reminds me of freaking 7th grade - which is fine if you're 12. I am soooooo sick of the crap they call news these days
TheDawnAmber 8 months ago 21
What about John Edwards?
TheDawnAmber 8 months ago
hahaha - just the name makes me laugh
TheDawnAmber 8 months ago
i knew how this video would work out. i like being right.
SkidRowRadio 8 months ago
We are totally Lewinskyed
batfly 8 months ago
Dear Stef,
The five million thing, I think you meant five hundred thousand, slight error. If that's not an error, I'd like to see the source.
Not to make the atrocity seem any better.
ViolentMonopoly 8 months ago
"Use an intern as a cigar holder" ahhahahahahahahahahaha
ShoveTyranny 8 months ago
absolutely well said. the only personal gain a politician is entitled to is the glory of a job well done.
wildflowery 8 months ago
I could care less about politicians personal lifes honestly.
TheEthanwashere 8 months ago
Ha ha ha," we are all Monica Lewinsky", I see new battle-cry coming!
Great job Stef, as always.
zg76 8 months ago
Double lol @ 3.49 "must contain head explosion"
truthcrackers 8 months ago
@tremblay8128 Did you even watch the video?
DoctorCapitalist 8 months ago
Like the conversation idea.
truthcrackers 8 months ago
This is what the monopolization of political power (oligarchy) results in - the WORST, most damaged, disordered people seek such offices.
The same is true of economic life - the most psychopathic and reckless (there is a point where "risk taking" does become a social liability) rise to the top in a paradigm that shamelessly endorses USURIOUS transactions ("profiteering"/parasitism.)
Capitalism is anti-libertarian.
OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@OuTofJoY
State-sponsored FrankenCapitalism, like the kind that exists now, is anti libertarian. In a free market, usurious transactions would be risky because there would be no lender of last resort or a government to bail out a firm's bad decisions. While overly aggressive quests for profit could still exist in such a system, lenders would have to be much more disciplined and satisfied with slower gains or suffer crushing financial loss.
theunshaved1 8 months ago
@theunshaved1
The problem is that people define "capitalism" in all sorts of ways. The same goes for "socialism."
By "capitalism" I refer to some specific features that only statism can afford, not simply private ownership, trade, or a natural/free market. THOSE features are embodied in economic theories like MUTUALISM or AGORISM (which are variously identified as "individualist" or "market socialism.")
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@theunshaved1
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Individualist/Market-Socialist Anarchists like Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Benjamin Tucker identified rent, interest lending, loss-protected corporatism, wage-labor and mark-ups exceeding the REAL COST of production as being exploitative/parasitical. HOWEVER, they also thought such things would be very limited (or outright not be able to exist at all) w/o state coercion, and free markets would naturally tend toward "equal exchange."
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@theunshaved1
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ANOTHER important feature of this type of anti-state market economics was a return to the concept that "ownership" REQUIRES use/possession. It is the state which behaves as guarantor of property beyond this (excess), allowing for the creation of de facto plutocracy and the re-creation of old world "nobility" and land-lords. The statist mercantile revolutions of the Enlightenment erred in applying royal conceits about property to all men.
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@theunshaved1
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I'm NOT a Mutualist/Agorist. I DO think they are better than state-capitalism, which invariably sour even more and become FASCISM.
"Individualism" doesn't sufficiently account for how liberty is lost to begin with - the impoverishment of some and not others, which can occur without human contrivance. "Individualism" would still rely on "good faith" to not resurrect tyranny in such circumstances - which hasn't EVER worked.
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@theunshaved1
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The truth is that "property" is a matter of inter-subjective consensus. That standards for the acquisition/maintenance of property have varied so much over human history is evidence of this. And we can discount theological justifications for property out of hand - they were the basis of royalist claims in tyrannies of old.
Possession is fact - human need is a fact; "property" is ALWAYS decided socially. The rejection of authority AND title are symbiotic.
OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@OuTofJoY Every society is anti-libertarian. Every heard of the law of equal liberty? One man's freedom is another man's slavery. Your freedom ends where another begins.
DaveElectric 8 months ago
@DaveElectric
There is a sense in which I agree with you.
Liberty exists BY the laws of nature. It's not so much a matter of liberty being circumscribed by such, but that it has no existence apart from this.
Society is necessary for survival and prosperity. IOW it IS the vehicle of liberty, rightly understood.
Fantastic hyper-individualism is a childish conceit, and has no existence. It is a non-sequitor. Liberty is something with existence. We are always in negotiation with others.
OuTofJoY 8 months ago
Well put into perspective Stef
PlatinumGordon 8 months ago
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doingear 8 months ago
good job Stephan. You know, the bible says more about money than it does about sex, yet American evangelicals blink at a century of the Fed ripping off the poor to line the pockets of the rich thru inflation, and socialist redistribution schemes. Let's grow up folks! Your moral outrage should be over these murderous wars and larcenous public policies that have destroyed us all, not over who is consuming what herb or sleeping in whose bed.
anwas777 8 months ago
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@anwas777
Agreed! The early Christians were COMMUNISTS.
"Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and SELL THAT THOU HAST, AND GIVE TO THE POOR, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. (...) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a RICH MAN to enter into the kingdom of God." (Mt 19:21, 24)
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@anwas777
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"And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the MONEYCHANGERS, and the seats of them that SOLD doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of THIEVES." (Mt 21:12-13)
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
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@anwas777
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"(...) The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord; (...) And the second is like, namely this, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. There is none other commandment greater than these." (Mk 12:29, 31)
Matthew 25:31-46 (on "the Last Judgement") is also pretty clear about who will and will not be saved; the criteria being the fulfillment of the above mentioned moral imperatives.
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OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@anwas777
As for the earliest Christians...
"(...) (N)either said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; BUT THEY HAD ALL THINGS COMMON. (...) Neither was there ANY AMONG THEM THAT LACKED: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: AND DISTRIBUTION WAS MADE UNTO EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO AS HE HAD NEED." (Acts 4:32, 34-35)
OuTofJoY 8 months ago
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DaveElectric 8 months ago
@DaveElectric
Ideas/cultural progress don't exist in hermetic/partisan vacuums.
Religions are cultural phenoms. They are products of a society. I don't see any problem in a secular person acknowledging that factors as varied as Hellenic philosophy, primitive Christianity, Persian Imperial meritocracy, etc. have come down to the present and resulted in the synthesis we now have.
"Guilt by association" is for mental midgets.
OuTofJoY 8 months ago
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DaveElectric 8 months ago
@DaveElectric
I think what you missed is that I was offering the quotes as a response to a CHRISTIAN "Libertarian" (capitalist.) I was illustrating the inherent contradiction of claiming to be a "follower of the biblical Jesus" and supporting market-libertarianism.
I do not view the basis or argument for stateless communism as being rooted in the dogmatic claims of the Christian religion. I'm a theological non-cognitivist (atheist who finds the whole question of "God" absurd.)
OuTofJoY 8 months ago
@OuTofJoY touche
DaveElectric 8 months ago
The press will always focus on these types of "scandals" because they can do it safely. Its a convenient way to say to the public "hey look were exposing the corruption of blah blah" when in all actuality they will never touch the real corruption. Like you said, kill a million people-- no problem. Tweet your meat and it turns into a 3 week investigation.
Nice shirt btw.
DrDissent 8 months ago 2
How about if we try a 3rd approach and say that these politicians show lack of morality/ judgment in ALL areas. You can't separate the 2.
Two sides of the same coin.
I understand human frailties, but I don't want a man representing me or governing my State, who doesn't have the self control to keep his d--k in his pants.
It makes me question his judgment in all other areas that effect my life.
I look for the same self control in a husband, or an employee.
I think my requirements are prudent
macpduff 8 months ago
Haha, the title gave me a good laugh.
Pikers81 8 months ago
One problem with this video was he sort of went "Look how terrible the acts of these people were, it's disgraceful in every way" and then finished with "but these sexual acts really arent that big a deal in the scheme of things". So was it bad or wasn't it?
alistairproductions 8 months ago
@alistairproductions The point is what people have chosen to care enough to do something about it?. Bombing Yugoslavia or having oral sex in the oval office? Events say that society currently has it's priorities back to front. Care about the mass murder before the inappropriate sex.
amlorusso 8 months ago
Thank you Mr Molyneux. Your superb voice of reason is a dose of clean oxygen amidst the filthy smog of political and moral corruption.
RebelRadius 8 months ago
our modern world is most bizarre place of them all
Iebkuchen 8 months ago
Stef, your vids are the only meat I tweet.
BookofNick 8 months ago 19
@BookofNick LOL
jaminunit 8 months ago
Stef I'm loving the new Background and lighting!
jaminunit 8 months ago
@BookofNick nice
gradiu3rox 8 months ago
Since we are all collective illusions anyway, I'm just going to enjoy the ride down the rabbit hole and see what's on the other side. Bummer about your having kids though.All that concern for naught.
tet43 8 months ago
You are the man!
garrethdavis 8 months ago
Let's not be so quick on Dominique Strauss-Kahn. There are parts of that story that seem to show he is guilty, but there are parts that make it apparent that he was set up with a false rape trap.
It is really gratifying to say he is guilty, but there are questions. The political motive is to keep sorkozy in office, as DSK was the #1 opponent in the prez race.
There are a number of reports that show he was trying to work with v bury greece & report on the missing gold in ft knox.
detersbb 8 months ago
6:08 yup
magnoid 8 months ago
Stef was looking at me with that gleam in his eye @4:54
Helionaeic 8 months ago
Hi Stef, great post, Just like to say 1 thing though, I think this is the first time I have seen you wear a decent shirt for a while nowt! lol, Don't forget man your representing the freedom lovers of the world esecially when your appearing on mainstream TV shows like RT etc :) Keep up the good work.
wlesniak 8 months ago
Stef looks awesome! ;)
PushMyCarr 8 months ago
You, my friend hit the nail on the head! What else is there more to say?
meemo1313 8 months ago
Please make the same video for Canada... I would love to know the stats for our MPs
l1xx3r 8 months ago
nice shirt O_O
i'm no monika lewinsky, she spat :D
kmica2008 8 months ago
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War is something foreign to us in our lives.
Almost everyone has been hurt, or knows a friend who has been hurt, by sexual betrayal.
War is only immoral in a fuzzy abstract way.
RPFS2008 8 months ago
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@RPFS2008 "War is only immoral in a fuzzy abstract way". Almost everybody (if not everbody) has seen or experienced violence (including children). To put that experience as being less objectionable than sexual betrayal is an epic morality fail.
amlorusso 8 months ago
Sraus-Kahn is supposed to be innocent you are supposed to be a philosopher. This is sloppy work.
UNIVERSITYHI 8 months ago
@UNIVERSITYHI thats all you have to say ??????? oh boy mankind is in trouble.
TheLagamorph 8 months ago
@TheLagamorph What are you talking about. Philosophy is supposed to be nuanced and he is painting these people with a broad brush. Straus-Kahn was in line for the presidency of France. His arrest could have been a take-down especially when you consider that the same thing happened to another banker, Mahmoud Abdel-Salam Omar, shortly afterward. There is no coincidence with power. Don't try to make my thinking out to be simplistic.
UNIVERSITYHI 8 months ago
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@UNIVERSITYHI "Don't try to make my thinking out to be simplistic" keep it as simplistic as possible !
itchcitizen2 8 months ago
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RPFS2008 8 months ago
Epic ending.
PaperSoapy 8 months ago
Quite something, ain't it? It staggers me that people find this acceptable.
fuckoverload 8 months ago
who are those people ?
Realjhad 8 months ago
I think Kierkegaard predicted that all this would happen. The more popular technologically driven media progresses the more out of touch with our own lives we will become.
DaveElectric 8 months ago
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Any politician who has sex should step down.
t3hsauce 8 months ago
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@t3hsauce Any politician who has sex should step down.
lol
gssg9 8 months ago
If I was a bodybuilder/giant actor/governor, I would have sex with whoever I want, whenever I want, however I want. I'd have a whole frickin harem. Its not like he can't pay to support them.
MoneyIsSilver 8 months ago
Weiner's full name is Anthony David Weiner, so he is Tony not Rob. But he is still a Weiner.
paulvahur 8 months ago