SECTS OF ISLAM #4: 'ALAWITE MUSLIMS - DIVINE TRIAD: ALI, MUHAMMAD, & SALMAN THE PERSIAN

[deouwehoer]

Alevis are the best of the muslims, combined with perfectness of turkish blood ve are the master race...

[DMJaber]

@deouwehoer Alevites of Alawites? There's a difference.

[Mjayiesm]

Alawites are not muslims!! It's like saying that mormons are christians.

[1Zerotonine]

PS: Where in the bible is any passage that Jesus supposedly have told 1:"Worship Me!" 2: " I am the son of god!" 3" I am God!".show me I'll become christian. All I can see that pass few years of new translations with the words added I am the son of God: Matthew 27:43 but its not Jesus's words only according to some one named Mat who was not there at all, was not with Jesus in his life never, Barnabas was there. well truth? tel me how can you do that to Jesus? there was another Jesus thief!.

[CAnswersTV]

@1Zerotonine We have over 410 videos on YOUTUBE with 40 hours of these devoted to Islam alone (type "LARRY WESSELS ISLAM" in the YOUTUBE search box; see our "Answering Islam #5: Muslim Attacks Against the Bible Declaration That Jesus is God" & our "CAN BELIEVING ISLAM SEND YOU TO HELL? #8: IS "THE GOSPEL OF BARNABAS" A BOGUS MUSLIM FORGERY?" besides our website on Islam MUSLIMHOPE COM. Jesus said he was the Son of God in Mark 14:61-65. Muslims believe in a counterfeit Jesus made up by Mohammed.

[rachidmaamri]

Shia and Alawites are sons of Zeena (Mutaa), of Adultery (also called philandery)...

[Alawi1Alawi]

If you review your history you will find that the reason our religion is a secret is due to Sunni Muslims out casting alawites and preaching that it is a sin not to kill and rape alawite, so as a result alawites were victims genocide on the hands of the Sunnie Muslims as the considered us to be the most sinful race due to our beliefs. there for alawites escaped to the mountains and lived and practiced their religion in secret. eventually they became servants for Sunni kings.

[CAnswersTV]

@Alawi1Alawi I hope you don't mind but I'm going to block you before you have a chance to remove your comment like "zaynoob1" did with all of his comments except the last one. Some of the comments being made by people claiming to be Alawites are useful in exposing the Alawite religion to the general public. Here you basically prove what I was previously saying to "zaynoob1," namely, the reason Alawites have to be so "secretive" about their beliefs is so they won't get killed by regular Muslims.

[CAnswersTV]

@zaynoob1 You prove our point about Alawite "secrets." If it's a "secret" then do you think a real Alawite will tell you the truth? If they want to keep something a "secret" why would they tell anyone else the actual truth about themselves? If someone is revealing the "secrets" they believe then naturally they'll lie to cover up the truth about their "secrets." The problem is some of them quit being Alawites & told all their "secrets" to the world while the rest keep lying to cover up it all up.

[CAnswersTV]

@zaynoob1 Can you really believe an Alawite when he either says something is true or false based on the fact that they will lie to cover up their so-called secrets? You can't believe what an Alawite says in public because the chances that he's a liar are great. Since Alawites worship Ali, Muhammad & Salman they obviously don't want regular Muslims to know this secret or they will be killed. That's why Alawites lie about what they believe or don't believe. The Bible condemns all liars to hell.

[zaynoob1]

@CAnswersTV And so you say. Yes apparently the Bible does condemn all liars too hell but in this instance were talking of Alawite Muslims not Christians. You can't just say that any Alawite that subjects their viewpoint on this video as a liar because of the fact they try defended themselves from false statements made about us. Were do you base your information from exactly? I'm really curious too know.

[CAnswersTV]

@zaynoob1 You removed all your previous comments to which I replied. Why? The reason you did this is obvious, you actually proved our proposition & after realizing this you decided that your comments were helping us, not your cult. I've had this happen on many videos with many cultists. The cultist, after they've realized they've trapped themselves, remove all their comments. Sura 3:54 says that Allah "makara." "Makara" means to deceive. The Qur'an says Allah is a deceiver just like Alawites.

[MrViTopol]

@CAnswersTV very interesting. the name 'Makar' is used in Russian lore for a deceiver...

[LuckyDukeSeven]

@CAnswersTV

Your comments about Alawites are correct.

However, "...Allah is a deceiver just like Alawites."

How ridiculous. I suppose when God raised up a mighty nation, with a foreign tongue to destroy and torture this Israelites, he wasn't deceiving the Assyrians? Or when God said he was one, or when he said he was neither a man nor a the son of a man, he wasn't being deceptive from the Christian perspective?

Stop playing with semantics. The playing of semantics is the language of idiots.

[CAnswersTV]

@LuckyDukeSeven You're the one playing semantics. From a Biblical Christian perspective (which is where we're coming from - see our websites: BIBLEQUERY ORG, HISTORYCART COM & MUSLIMHOPE COM) the "Allah" of the Muslims is a false god created by Satan the great deceiver, get it? The God of Biblical Christians is Jesus Christ (John 1:1-14, 8:58, 20:28, Col 2:9 etc) but orthodox Muslims deny this, they have a different god. Thus to Christians Muslims have a fake & deceiving god, not the true God.

[LuckyDukeSeven]

@CAnswersTV

Nay, your Bible is a fabrication created by a post-Pagan council, and the gospels you derive your faith from are all anonymous. In fact, the Alawites have more in common with you than they ever will have with even the most heretical sects of Islam.

"created by Satan"- Now Satan can create? Ah, how enlightening. And a Biblical blaspheme.

You faith makes sense only when you close the old testament and deiced inquires into Biblical-canonization history are a Sin. Ignorance is bliss.

[CAnswersTV]

@LuckyDukeSeven You're a perfect example of a brainwashed Muslim who has never really looked at the evidence for the Christian Bible. Instead you just dismiss the Bible because that's what your Islamic leaders tell you to do. Our website MUSLIMHOPE COM deals with Muslim attacks against the Bible & verifies the manuscript evidence while showing the Qur'an to be a joke by comparison. For example, the Qur'an, Sura 18:85-86 says the sun sets into a "muddy spring." What "muddy spring" is the sun in?

[LuckyDukeSeven]

@zaynoob1

He bases it from Kitab Al Majmu. We don't live in the middle-ages anymore. Your holy book is easily accessible. Perhaps he should have read the whole thing. You claim Jesus is God too, along with Peter, his disciple. You claim all Prophets and Holy men are avatars of God. You're like Hindus, only with a weaker moral code.

[Thejadjadjad]

i have alawite friends ....they DO NOT pray to ali ....THE DO NOT pray to soliman al farsi or whatever this zionist media is saying ...they are almost exactly like shias ...aka muslims

[CAnswersTV]

@Thejadjadjad If your friends are alawites & they have a "secret" religion where no one but them is supposed to know what they believe then how do you know what they believe or who they're praying to? Have your alawite friends told you what their "secret" religious beliefs are? If they have told you their alawite "secrets" then they are not real alawites because they told you their "secrets," get it? If someone knew their "secrets" & told others do you think they would approve or try to deny it?

[Thejadjadjad]

@CAnswersTV in syria mate my uncle had this opssesion with those sects he went to AN ACTUALY ALLWAITE MOSQUE ...not what this video says a whine tavern ....they are exactly like shias .....so what more authienticity do you want ..many bullcrap have been told about them ....to create division ....you re a christian i respect that ....dont create myths about muslim sects ...thats a lie and its a sin in ur own religion

[CAnswersTV]

@Thejadjadjad You dodged the questions I asked you, why? Because you don't want to answer them "mate". The fact is you, yourself are NOT an alawite therefore you don't know their "secrets," get it? Your answer here is just a "dodge" about your supposed uncle who attended an unnamed "mosque" because the truth is you're IGNORANT of real alawite beliefs. All you're giving us here is your ASSUMPTIONS based on your own IGNORANCE. The only LIAR here is you since you can't tell us alawite "secrets."

[Thejadjadjad]

@CAnswersTV You live all the way in america far from knowing those societies and religions and cultures....While me on the other hand interact with the people you are studying ...My sources are more authientic ...your sources are weak you are no muslim and probably have not met any alwaite in your life ...in their mosque i think they reveal secrets or else ....where then ...i know durzis tens of my friends are lebanese durzis they pray to allah not al hakim ....those secrets are made up

[CAnswersTV]

@Thejadjadjad I glad you decided to at least take a stab at what I asked you about whether you knew the alawite "secrets". The only thing your answer has revealed is you are IGNORANT of alawite "secrets" & you admit it finally. You have not provided us with any "authentic sources". Where's your documentation? You provided none! You talked about a supposed "uncle" & an unnamed "mosque." That's not evidence! You're not an alawite & you don't know their secrets so everything you say is worthless.

[nighteye24]

u are sad sad people

the alawhite religion is nothing of what u said

the alawhite religion is secret are u don't have a clue what it is

sad people u should open your eyes and mind

look for better things to do with your pathetic life

[nighteye24]

u are sad sad people

the alawhite religion is nothing of what u said

the alawhite religion is secret are u don't have a clue what it is

sad people u should open your eyes and mind

look for better things to do with your pathetic life

[CAnswersTV]

@nighteye24 If the alawite religion is "secret" then how do you know what it is? Are you an alawite? If you are an alawite then would you tell the truth about the secrets the alawites hold to? What are the secret teachings that no one is able to know about? If the teachings are "secret" then how is anyone to know what they believe? Has any alawite ever left the alawites & then told others what they believe? Tell us what the "secrets" are now. The truth is you're lying no matter how you answer.

[2005Nas]

No one has no knowledge of alawites until you meet a knowledge alawite or you are a alawite yourself, we don't need fabricated video's to explain to us about any religion, media plays a good role on mind control, and this is what this video is meant for, to provide you with lies brainwash you into thinking its true, And yes i did watch this video and it does not relate to what a alawite religion is...

[CAnswersTV]

@2005Nas All is documented in the "Encyclopedia of Islam" & the new edition. Alawites have tried to keep their inner teaching and rituals secret, similar to the Masons or Mormons. One of their rituals is a communion, including drinking wine. Like Catholics, they believe that the wine is transubstantiated into deity, Allah. The problem for 'Alawites is some of them convert to something else during their lives & then tell everybody else what the 'Alawite "secrets" are making them angry & mad.

[CAnswersTV]

@2005Nas Since real 'Alawites want their religion to be secret it's no wonder that they attack & deny anything that is revealed about their religion. Since the Qur'an says in Surah 3:54 that Allah is the best "planner" (according to the Ali translation) which according to Lane's Lexicon of the Arabic can also mean "liar, cheat, deceiver" they simply employ Surah 9:5 ("lie in wait for them in every strategem of war") & deny & lie about what they actually believe so people will not know the truth.

[CAnswersTV]

@2005Nas Many Muslims consider ‘Alawites as "ghulat" (a cult) farther from Mohammed’s teachings than Christians and Jews. ‘Alawites believe the "Five Pillars of Islam": the creed, prayer, alms, pilgrimage, fasting during Ramadan, are believed only as SYMBOLS and there is no need to PRACTICE them. They have two other pillars: Jihad or holy struggle/war, was also considered the sixth pillar by the Kharijites & Worship of ‘Ali, (called Waliya), is the seventh pillar; also against ‘Ali’s enemies.

[acerb45666555]

"Dialogue"?, that should be easy enough. ive observed the Christians and Muslims,(aside from some differances), both believe in the ascension and the return of Jesus-Isa. and also the Divine birth and Mary-Maryam. ................Sharia is the main sticking point. its far to medieval. it must be revised in areas.

[hanady67]

BY BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM COMMENTING AND CORRECTING THIS VIDEO AND CHALLENGING THE YOU TUBE USER OF THIS VIDEO JUST SHOWS THAT YOU ARE 100% WRONG

[CAnswersTV]

@hanady67 You're not telling the truth! Shame on you! Has your comment been blocked? It looks to me that it's still there. You're also not telling the truth about us being "100% WRONG". Are you saying that everything we say in our video & in this reply here is "100% WRONG? We've said that 'Alawites are a SECT of Islam, are you saying we're "100% WRONG" in making that statement. Are you then implying that 'Alawites are not Muslims at all? Many Muslims have historically rejected the 'Alawites.

[hanady67]

This is absoloutly pathetic.... i did NOT call you names, i called you IGNORANT, and i will continue to say it, I REFUSE to continue watchin a video knowing it is all going to be fals!!! the first five mins were all LIES so clearly the rest will be. You have no provided any real references, i am sure your information is obtained by the internet. Have you actually spoken to an Alawite Scholar (s) have you studied the Holy book Quran?

[CAnswersTV]

@hanady67 The only one that is "PATHETIC" is you. You're so 'IGNORANT" of the "Alawite religion you "REFUSE" to watch more than "5 minutes" of this video (the same as other complainers) & at the same time you attack our presentation without checking the documentation & history which has been presented. Readers of these comments should take note that you say everything we say are "ALL LIES" without once giving any PROOF we're wrong. See the "Encyclopedia of Islam" & our website MUSLIMHOPE COM.

[CAnswersTV]

@jadindahouse Normal Muslims, such as orthodox Sunnis, naturally by literally believing what the Quran plainly teaches would say that Christians, Jews & the 'Alawites are "hell-doomed"! Orthodox Sunnis reject Christians for saying Jesus is God in the flesh & believing in the Trinity (Father, Son & Holy Spirit), they reject the Jews for saying Muhammad is a false prophet & Allah is a lie & the 'Alawites for their "secret" worship of Ali, Muhammad & Salman despite that 'Alawites try to hide this.

[CAnswersTV]

@jadindahouse The continuing problem with so-called "Alawites" trying to look like "12'er Shi'ites" is that they conveniently "forget" to mention that they drink wine, believe in the divine triad of Ali, Muhammad & Salman (see also "First Encyclopedia of Islam," vol.6, pp.964-976, E.J. Brill, 1913-1936; & "The Encyclopedia of Islam," New Edition, vol.8, pp.146-149, E.J. Brill, 1995), etc. as referenced in this video presentation & elsewhere. These so-called "Alawites" claim anything.

[abuObayda1]

what do you know about god?

[AlawienTv]

it's all lies about us, enter my channel and see my clip about Alwaite sect to see the truth.

[82fats1]

that they are strictly forbidden to reveal any information to the "ignorant ones". These "ignorant ones" are what their preachers call the rest of their alawi population that dont know about their core beliefs. They celebrate christmas, easter and many other celebrations that range form other religions and tradtions and also at the same time believe in christain saints. They are messed up. They declare that women are developed from the devil and that no religous obligation is placed on them lol

[82fats1]

They are not muslims, they are a pagan cult. They declare that there "is no god but ali", and that every prophet that came was a reincarnated version of god. They believe in a trinity. Dont conceal your beliefs, everyone knows about your practices and beliefs. You dont acknowledge the Quran or prophetic tradition, at least christians and jews have holy books that they declare and declare their beliefs openly, alawai"s do not decalre their beliefs. Men and young boys are inducted into cerimonies.

[sallymay37]

LOL your ignorance doesnt surprise me!!!

id like to know where you obtained your information?

id like to see ALL your refrences please!!!!!!

[CAnswersTV]

@sallymay37 The only IGNORANCE concerning this religion is by you. Not only have you NOT watched this entire video but you have also FAILED to read the description text for this video & then you ask this IGNORANT question! It's interesting that you want to see references when you don't even check the video & description text we provide (or check our referenced website MUSLIMHOPE COM). Instead you give the video a bad rating & call us names without investigation. You'd reject the Kitab al-Majmu'.

[sallymay37]

I didnt even bother to continue this video- the amount of false information in the first 10mins astounded me!!!!

the Alawi sect believes in the one and only Allah (swt) who is also known as God, there is no God other than him. Jesus (peace be upon him) was a messenger,they do not believe he was god, but they DO believe in him!!!!!!!!

they believe Muhammad (pbuh) was the messenger of Allah also known as God to you ppl, and they belive in Imam Ali (as) as the next caliph.

[CAnswersTV]

@sallymay37 Wrong! Alawites claim to be Twelver Shiites, but traditionally they have been designated as “extremists – ghulat” and outside the bounds of Islam by the Muslim mainstream for their deification of Ali ibn Abi Talib or Ali. The Alawite religion has many similarities to Isma’ilism. Like Ismaili Shi`as, Alawis believe in a system of divine incarnation as well as an esoteric reading of the Quran. Unlike Ismailis, Alawis regard Ali as the incarnation of the deity in the divine triad.

[Mr06760676]

GOD CREATED US TO WORSHIP HIM. IF YOU GUYS THOUGHT LOGICALLY YOU GUYS WOULD BE MUSLIM BROTHERS. MY GOD TEACH YOU ON THE RIGHT PATHS AND AGAIN YOUR FACTS ARE FALSE ABOUT ALAWI. WE BELIVE IN ALLAH (ARABIC WORD FOR GOD).

[CAnswersTV]

@Mr06760676 Is your "ALLAH" the Lord Jesus Christ because Jesus claimed to be God (John 8:23-59) & to be the "Son of God" (John 5:17-47). Do you believe Jesus is "Allah" & do you worship & pray to him? The Bible & Jesus say that God is "The Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19), is that the same God you believe in? Christians believe that Jesus is God but Muslims do not so how can they have the same God? They have 2 completely different Gods & therefore cannot be brothers at all.

[Mr06760676]

@CAnswersTV 1st no we dont belive in a human god. you guys claim that jesus is the son of god why?? because he has no father? prophet ADAM (pbuh) doesnt have nor a father or a mother does not that give him a right to be the son of god? according to you. IMAM ALI (pbuh) said "there are 2 different type of people ion this world 1 your brothers in religion and 2nd your brothers is humanity". thats what my relegion teachs me to love all types of people not to give false info. about other relegions

[CAnswersTV]

@Mr06760676 You prove by your answer that you don't believe Jesus is God which means you do NOT believe in the same God as the Christians. Christians believe what the Bible says about God but Muslims do NOT believe what the Bible says about God. Thus the two religions oppose each other about God. Jesus said if you don't believe He is God you are of the devil (John 8:24-44). Since the god of Islam is a false god (denies Jesus is God) according to the Bible then it is cursed (Galatians 1:6-9).

[Mr06760676]

Respond to this video...allah is the arabic word for god ARAB CHRISTIANS USE IT...???

[CAnswersTV]

@Mr06760676 You didn't respond to my questions about God being Jesus. I already know that some Arab Christians refer to God as Allah but that does not mean they mean the same thing as you when they use the word "Allah." For example, if you say "Jesus" to a Mormon he believes Jesus is the brother of the devil, a Jehovah's Witness thinks "Jesus" is the Archangel Michael, a Christian Scientist thinks "Jesus" is just an idea Mary had one day, etc. "Jesus" means different things to different people.

[Mr06760676]

@CAnswersTV us muslims belive in the bible, your bible sir is not the real one its fabricated by human beings therefore not the word of god. 2nd you didnt answer my question does it not mean that prophet adam has the greater right of being the son of god than jesus because adam has no father nor mother according to your logic that makes prophet adam (pbuh) more eligable than jesus to be the son of god.???? also im ALAWI and all you info. in this video is false about our relegion.

[CAnswersTV]

@Mr06760676 You do NOT believe in the Bible because you DENY it everywhere you want to DENY it. If I said I believed in the Qur'an but only believed a few parts of it & DENIED the rest as a LIE would that still be believing in the Qur'an? That's what you do with the Bible. The Bible would call you a liar (Psalm 119). For verification of the Bible as true & your claims as LIES see our website MUSLIMHOPE COM & see our other videos on Islam (type "LARRY WESSELS ISLAM" in the YOUTUBE search box).

[Mr06760676]

@CAnswersTV 2nd the christian relegion rellies on faith so much and you are so scared that christians will convert to islam you make up false statements about my relegion to scare people away. That shows how fragile your relegion is and 2nd you have quoted from your bible have you read the whole thing have you read the old testiment it all contridicts itself, also does peter not also say to the woman that whoever doesnt want to cover there head they can shave it of???

[CAnswersTV]

@Mr06760676 Once again your statements are LIES even though you think they're true. Why do you think your LIES are true? You think your LIES are true because everything you say has been told to you by your Muslim teachers rather than getting both sides of the story from Christian teachers. Without studying the Christian side you've simply allowed yourself to be BRAINWASHED by Muslim false prophets who have turned you away from the true God (Jesus) of the Bible (John 1:1,14, Colossians 2:9, etc).

[TilveranNavarre]

Good, though there's more to astrology than fortune telling, which I agree is the side that doesn't work. The side of astrology that deals with divining our personal human nature I find works very well and is useful to me; I think the fortune tellers tried extrapolating from there and it just falls over, not least because fundamentally God gives us free will and the power to forge our own destinies.

Thanks again for the hard work you put into the series, it's very interesting.

[CAnswersTV]

@TilveranNavarre Thanks for the compliment for this video series. You may be interested to know that we have many more videos on Islam besides this series (type "LARRY WESSELS ISLAM" in the Youtube search box), particularly our 10 hour "Answering Islam" series. As far as astrology goes, we have a video on Youtube that deals only with that subject entitled, "IS ASTROLOGY REALLY SCIENTIFIC OR IS IT SUPERSTITIOUS FORTUNE-TELLING & PARAPSYCHOLOGY?" The Bible speaks of astrologers (Isaiah 47:13).

[TilveranNavarre]

@CAnswersTV I might have a look at that other series on Islam, thanks. Astrology is a subjective art that must proven personally and not a science that can ever be proven with objective experiments. I'm fine with that being a highly unsatisfactory answer to critics.

I could make an analogy to someone who'd never seen anyone ride a bicycle. Studying the theories of bicycle riding makes it sound ludicrous (why don't they fall off?) and never grants the ability. The only way to learn is personal.

[CAnswersTV]

@TilveranNavarre I can understand what you say as long as I don't take into account what the Bible says about astrology. Obviously I'm a Christian & I take my beliefs from the Bible (that's what Christians do). Needless to say, the Bible condemns astrology: 1) it's an ancient pagan religion because it involved the worship of the stars (2 Kings 17:16-17, 23:4-5, Amos 5:26, Acts 7:39-43), 2) it's an occult art (Isaiah 47:12-14), 3) it's associated with the devil (Deut 18:9-14, Acts 13:6-12).