the spaces marines are only called to battle if the imperial guard cant get the task done and the space marines were supposed to be peacekeeper if the horus heresy didnt happen and also many space marines died and their gene send stolen by chaos
The pic at 4:24 proved us all that a Guardsman can have more balls than a Space Marine.Facing a boss like that whit human limits needs some great courage and determination.
its about time we got the respect we earned, after all who do you think held off the forces of chaos and the xenos while the first Astartes were been made and stood alonge side the emperor to retake terra at the end of the age of strife. though that guardsman must havebeen very brave or his commander threatend to kill him, to charge that warboss.
The Marines are better warriors sure, But who put there lives on the line day in day out? Who fights the wars, who Are inferior in every way but keep trying because they can and will save those billions of lives?
i used to think it was weird sms got automatic weapons and guard got lasers until i found out there was just an angry laser pointer and the other was a rapid firing rocket launcher
it's always the generals and govenors that get the recognition, but it's the guardsmen who are on the frontline, actualy facing the enemy head on, and the govenor/general that hides behind his hordes of guardsmen, tanks and baneblades..
In the end, I say it doesn't matter if your one of the Space Marines, the Imperial Guard, the SoB or any of the other armies who fight for the Emperor. All that matters is just that, you live and die in the Emperor's name while defeating his foes. For the Imperium! For the Emperor! Only in death does duty end!
@vvolf26 "Rembo", is a Catachan. Catachans are literally all Rembo wannabees. But don't take that to mean they arent just as badass as Rembo. And the "Nazi Soldier" is a Death korps of Kreig soldier. That means he comes from a Death World. And wears a full head helmet. :P Hope that helps. If questions, google this shit.
@vvolf26 Rambo guys are the meanest of them all, train to fight in tight formation in dense, infested jungle. they represent Rambo, or the marine corpe in the VN war. their true name is CATACHAN DEVILDOG
inspired from the Great war, they are the Death Korp of Kieg. King of trench and Siege warfare. They are nothing but diehard bastard, who is ready to fight teeth to teeth with their enemy.
hope this help. Steel Legion is more like German paratroopers from ww2
@6Xero9 I'd drink to that if I had any alcohol on hand but I don't so I'll drink some of this tea instead. "The marines get the glory, but the guard get the work"--Commander Dreid Vasco on the Space marine's position in the galaxy. What am I talking about?
I hate to admit it, but the murderous psychopath had at least that right, in fact the dirty asshole won most battles with the tactic of "send troops, watch them die, send a big group, rinse and repeat until all the Nazis are dead", which is, by the way, the main tactic used by the Guard, only replacing "Nazis" with "Xenos", I of course prefer elite forces over masses of conscripts, but moral, large numbers and superior equipment are the tools for wining wars, is not elegant but it works
@6Xero9 yes, of course, in fact I wrote a post about it, Space Marine are of course the best empire asset for precision strikes and armored combat but the Guard is quite able to execute special operations if the need arises...about super heavy tanks, well, just like titans they are extremely cool weapons and very useful under the right circumstances but on universe with orbital strike capacity they are very expensive big targets..I will stick to the marines...but respect the Guard
It has been said that if the Space Marines are the tip of the Imperium's spear, but the Guard are the rest of the spearhead, the shaft, and the man holding it.
I mean, if you think about it, for a regular man to throw himself into the fray against such formidable war machines as Orks, Eldar and Necrons, let alone the monstrous Tyranids and Ruinous Powers without super powerful genetic enhancements and weapons that would make all but the bravest or most foolhardy flee in terror, he'd either have to be completely mad or courageous in the extreme.
Ollanius pius, a simple guardsman, who stood up to Horus as he was about to finish the emperor... Equiped with an ineffective lasgun and cardboard armor, he did his duty that day and made the emperor realise his favoured son had truely fallen to chaos.
Guardsmens job arent only to defend most of the crusades liberating the different segmentums are fought only by the guardsmen with little to no support from the space marines.
@Mortenhendriksen Space Marines are His own sons, humanity's best and last hope against the terror. A Guardsman's life is to die, and a good commander makes use of his men to the best of his ability. Their job is to hold the line until the Space Marines arrive to win the battle.
@BlackTemplar43 no its the guardsmen who saves the space marines asses. There is way to few space marines to do any major difference. The guard is the emporers true finest, its easy enough to be a hero with a automatic grenade launcher and a power armor.
Who is the true hero? the guy with a fragmention armor and a standard rifle dying everyday doing far more than expeted of them or the guys who is overly overrated and barely does what is needed of them?
@Mortenhendriksen Usually on larger campaigns ( Cadia, Armageddon, Damocles etc.) the Marines have always turned the tide of the battle. Guard can hold against the enemy for a while, yes. But it is the Marines who eliminate command structures, big scary monsters and survive. They are not held godlike for nothing in the Imperium.
@Mortenhendriksen And how can you say Space Marines barely do what is required of them? They know no fear, unlike the Guard which is usually recruited from workers and civilians. Marines are a one man army, they can take on Daemons, Ork Nobs and Eldar Aspect Warriors without so much as a scratch. They can fight very well even unarmed, as they have done in many books.
Besides, you don't see Commissars with Space Marines, do you? They fear them more than the enemy, and move forward.
@Mortenhendriksen Actually it's the other way around. If a guardsman succeeds remarkably, he might get a medal or a promotion easier than a marine.
A commissar can be a hero or a dick. He can either shoot guys at random or he can have justification why to do so. Some just choose to moralise others by killing their own.
A marine usually does not even get medals, but promotions for decandes of service. Rising through the ranks as a marine is a lot more difficult than as a guardsman.
@BlackTemplar43 ah yes medals and promotions, only the very guardsmen is aknowledge for their actions because it is lost in the masses and hundreds of other just as brave deeds.
A rank as a guardsman is almost nothing compared to a rank of a space marine. Plus the rank the space marines have alredy is almost at the level of a lord
A space marine might not be promoted the first many years. most guardsmen dont survive their first.
A guardsman does what needed of him and isnt expected to be perfect. A guardsman would rarely get acknowledged for what he does and will never be called a hero but thousands and a guardsman will never see himself as a hero. Like the marines do.
@Mortenhendriksen First of all, sorry for the delay of my response. I had some things to do.
Well, I have always thought of them as a important defender of the Imperium, who defeats small invasions, rebellions and conquers/ retakes worlds lost to the Imperium. Space Marines on the other hand are those who allow the guard to advance in vicious battles. An attack is halted because of heavy artillery, monstrous creatures or Daemons? Let the Marines handle them and move forward.
@BlackTemplar43 First no need to say sorry for delaed response after all we have a life out side the computer.
Have you ever read the description GW made? (no offense ment) it says: The imprial guards is the hammer of the imperium where the space marines are the scalpel (not exactly what is written but close to it)
The guard is used for anything. Remember you dont know when or where the next deamon pops up so most of the time the only one nearby to handle it is the imperial guard.
@BlackTemplar43 The space marines are the second wave, No apparent reason to waste the best on something the next best can handle (the last is the PDF and arbitrators). The space marines task is on the other also to fight the known xenos infested areas or retrivel of artifacts.
The space marines are often sent in to figh next to the guard against the deamons of chaos just like the first war of armagedon. As GW says the space marines are the scalpel the guard is the hammer.
@BlackTemplar43 that plus half of all space marines regiments joined chaos not even 10 percent of guardsmen hav joined the chaos. Space marines and ungratefull for what they and are.
Source or it didn't happen. Besides, even if that would be real, it is explained by the fact that the Imperium reinforces the guard all the time. It is extremely long process to reinforce SM chapters. In horus heresy, only about 100 000 Marines (assuming each legion had about 10 000 marines) defected to chaos. In the age of the Imperium, only a couple of thousand marines join the chaos in a century.
@BlackTemplar43 at the time they turned half of the chapters followed horus and since then more have joined chaos.
Yes meatshields who wins wars and in millions.
And why do they need more and more guardsmen? well for the space maries undended wars, because guardsmen (unlike space marines) gets old, they die, because they fight and hundreds of crusades, are sacrificed so marines can live on.
@Mortenhendriksen Half of LEGIONS, not chapters. Chapters were formed after the Heresy. Don't tell mee I don't know about the Heresy when clearly you do not know everything. Many regiments were also lost durig that time, even more numerous than the legions. You need more and more guardsmen because if no one would reinforce them they would run out in a very short time. They serve to defend, not to win wars.
@BlackTemplar43 oh sorry then chapters like its better. And if any of us know about heresy then it is those who fights it. Its the guard whom always are the first into battle and the last to leave, dead or alive.
And yes more guardsmen turned, but as you said yourself, "they know no fear" and with all their blessings and all their weapons and armor, the it should be impossible to turn yet some does.
@Mortenhendriksen Unlike the Guard, whose whole regiments can turn into chaos in just a few years. Sometimes these regiments include hundreds of thousands of men. More Guard have turned into Chaos than Marines. Procentually this is little, because the Guard has trillions of troopers.
@BlackTemplar43 maybe but a regiment first of does not count in thusands maybe be a few hundreds even in the imperium. Second that might be but to loose just a single space marine is a defeat in itself and shows that with all the enchancements they can turn with all their loyalty they are no better than a guardsman whom in their eyes are lesser persons.
@Mortenhendriksen Straight from the IG Codex: " A regiment's size may vary depending on where it is raised. A backwater Agri-world can make regiments comprised of a few thousand man and women, while those hailing from hive worlds can be monsters with hundreds of thousands of men."
@Mortenhendriksen Well, the Tundra Wolves regiment consists of over 120 000 fighting men and women. Yes, the size can depend on the population of the world, but I think some novel stated that there are thousands per regiment.
@Mortenhendriksen Nope. Only a few Marines ever turn to chaos. The Imperial Guard loses thousands of men to chaos each year. Space Marines are so superior to normal humans, that to lost only one of them is a serious blow to the whole imperium.
@BlackTemplar43 exactly that is why guardsmen are superior they might turn but they arent given anything near the help the space marines get to prevent from turning or getting corrupted.
@Mortenhendriksen Usually their superiors do not tell them what they will face on the battlefield, so they are not too afraid to fight. For example the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer has propaganda about how inferior and unwothy thier enemies are. I truth, it would be suicide to enter close-combat with an Ork, for example.
However, after they realise what they are up against, they still continue fighting, which can be seen as courage, or fear that the Commissars will shoot them.
@GnosisZX well actually spacemarines are the tactical strike units and aren't meant for what the imperial guard are for the imperial guard are for protecting citizens so they are many but the space marines are few when compared
@subject431 Gnosis was correct, Space Marines are the scalpel of the Emperor, they are used for precision strikes. The Imperial Guard are used when you simply need more manpower than the Space Marines can provide, e.g. fighting along an extended front. The Imperial Guard are the Hammer of the Emperor because they are not, and cannot be, used for anything short of overpowering the enemy with sheer numbers and firepower.
..there is a lot of exceptions to that, the Guard Storm Troopers are very good special operations forces, the Ratling are superb snipers, the jungle fighters are very good infiltrator under the right conditions, so, there is a lot for situations where Guard forces can and should be used for precision strikes, as well as there are situations where the Space marines are forced to remain on the defensive for a while, the Imperial Fists are very good at defense and counterattack :)
@MrKazaddum It is because they are far less numerous than the Guard. The Marines made the Imperium, you know. They are also heroes of the Imperium, who have saved many a Guardsman.
@BlackTemplar43 ....What? The marines didn't make the Imperium, man and the Emperor did. In fact, the early imperial army MADE the marines in a way. The Geno five-two chilliad experimented with genetic modifications on their soldiers which the emperor took for a basis in the primarch project, leading to the marines.
Marines need to remember their original place. Attack dogs for mankind, nothing more.
@DelightfulTyrant Without the "attack dogs" of mankind, the Imperium would have fallen a long time ago. It is the Guard who are nothing more than Human shields buying enough time for the Marines to arrive and win important battles. They are the true defenders of the Imperium.
And don't get me wrong. I like the Guard. I am just sick of all the whining Guard players who cry that Marines steal their glory and that they are nothing compared to the Guard.
@DelightfulTyrant And It was the Marines who built the Imperium. The Imperial Army simply provided garrison forces and transport while they were shaping the Imperium. It was only after the Heresy that the Army was divided into the Imperial Guard and Navy. Horus Heresy was the first conflict which called for their military assistance.
@BlackTemplar43 No, no it wasn't, lol. Listen, the space marines and their primarchs where not united and fielded till after the initiation of the Great Crusade, AFTER the Emperor had united Earth under his rule, taken Luna, and then Mars.
Where do you think gene seed mutations come from? There where nowhere near enough Astartes to fight across the Galaxy and the attempt to produce them quicker led to flaws. The Imperial Army ALWAYS carried the weight.
@DelightfulTyrant As I said, they were mainly a garrisoning force, however they did fight along the Marine Legions. But really, there were a shitload of marines even before the Emperor found the primarchs. He simply broke the Legions into smaller forces and gave control over them to the individual primarchs as they were found.
@BlackTemplar43 This is all basic fluff that has been around for a LONG time. And saying that the Heresy was the first conflict that called for the Imperial Army is flat out wrong. I have several books within 10 ft of me that prove that wrong. Hell, Legion alone shows the Imperial Army fighting and fighting hard.
And are you forgetting the "Old Hundred"? There loooong before the marines, fighting for mankind.
@DelightfulTyrant As a garisoning force, they originally were designed to SUPPORT and DEFEND, not conquer by themselves. Nowadays the situation has changed, but still, Marines are the primus motor which wins out wars and upholds the morale.
The Imperial Guard has two choices in a war. Either advance without support, very likely taking massive casualties in a prolonged conflict, ordeep strike the Marines and advance with unstoppable might and light casualties.
@BlackTemplar43 Christ, you are one of those kids that played the RTS and now thinks he knows the 2 and a half decades of story, aren't you? Listen, you are wrong, read Legion, imperial army is fighting on its own, and Alpha Legion shows up of its own volition. The 'Old Hundred' is OLDER and CONQUERED BEFORE the creation of the marines. These are basic facts. How did the Emperor take Luna? How did he Take Mars? Why are there Gene-Seed Mutations? All these facts say you are wrong.
@DelightfulTyrant The Imperial Army was a mighty force, which conquered many systems, yes. But it was the Space Marine Legions who completed the great crusade. The Imperial Army in general was pressed into real service only after the Legions grew too thin, which was at the dawn of the Horus Heresy.
And I believe that I never said the Imperial Army didn't conquer anything. I stated that the Space Marine Legions completed the Crusade they had started.
@DelightfulTyrant Even Lexicanum says that the Imperial Army was founded AFTER the Marines needed SUPPORT during their conquest, to GARRISON worlds and perform invasions WITH the Marines.
When the Horus Heresy took place, the Imperial Army regiments UNDER THE COMMAND OF the Astartes either rebelled or stayed loyal depending on the Legions controlling them.
So, even if the Army fought many battles alone, it was because the Astartes told them to do so. Who is the "attack dog of mankind" now?
@DelightfulTyrant Luna and Mars were only the beginning. After those conquests he had gained the technology to produce Marines, and conquered the rest of the Solar system with them. They were the ones who drove away the Alien slavers from the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, and they were the ones who started the crusade. The Imperial Army only began to actively fight after the Marines Legions were spread into the galaxy and required support, as I already told you.
@DelightfulTyrant There are gene-seed mutations because the Chapters use various methods to transport it into their initiates, some being more stable and safe than others.
@DelightfulTyrant In the beginning, The Old Hundred conquered Terra, Luna and Mars, if you can call the latter two conquests since there was little to no resistance on Luna, and Mars allied with Terra.
After that, the Marines took their place, and their primary role was to support the Marine armies and defend Terra.
@BlackTemplar43 Incorrect, there was fighting on both. So we have established they built the foundation of the Imperium by conquering the Sol system. Then comes the fact that they kept fighting on their own. Here, since I like the Geno, we will focus on them. They fought a 6 week campaing against Orks on Foechion, fought draganoid cadres on Zantium, and fought Nurthene rebels on Nurth.
No marines. They fought, and they Won, all to build the Imperium during the Great Crusade.
@DelightfulTyrant Alright, the Imperial Army has won many victories on its own. I never told otherwise. I merely said it did so to support the Astartes.
@DelightfulTyrant It seems that we are not listening to each other. You say that the Marines are nothing compared to the Imperial Guard, which I strongly disagree with.
I say that the Imperial Army merely supported the Astartes, even though they were fighting on their own.
We are both right and wrong. I may have underestimated the importance of the Army, whereas you may have underestimated the importance of the Space Marines. Lets just leave it here.
@BlackTemplar43 Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. When did I say they are nothing? And the gene seed mutations are there because they had to be mass produced faster because there weren't enough, not for the reunification and conquest of the galaxy. And yes, you did say they didn't win victories on their own. "Guard who are nothing more than Human shields buying enough time for the Marines" Your words there. A man admits when he is wrong.
@fallout3vaultboy just one, the Guard is not a purely defensive army, hence its other moniker, the Hammer of the Emperor, as the Guard strikes like a warhammer, without pinpoint precision.
The space marines may be the sword of the empire but the IG are the shield every single day guardsmen fight and die defending worlds from the many enemies of the empire what they lack in strength they more than make up for in bravery. To all the men and women of the Imperial Guard. We salute you! For the Empire!!!
Without the gaurd the imperium would collapse. Without the space marines it would be conquered. Both are utterly crucial to the survival of man. The gaurd are meant to hold the line and the space marines are meant to face enemies that no mere man can face.
101st Elysian Drop Troops Regiment, ready for the drop and deployment.
OrkSlayer156 2 hours ago
baneblade: when space marines fail to show up
scorchdestroya 1 day ago
it is the DUTY OF THE GUARD to HOLD THE LINE AND DIE DOING SO, so that the ASTARTAS can come and take all the credit and go forth and die guardsmen
ig368 2 days ago
the spaces marines are only called to battle if the imperial guard cant get the task done and the space marines were supposed to be peacekeeper if the horus heresy didnt happen and also many space marines died and their gene send stolen by chaos
lordbirkyful 4 days ago
The space marines are the Emperors scalpel. The Imperial guard his unfelled hammer. both work miracles.
vqqqq1 1 week ago
The pic at 4:24 proved us all that a Guardsman can have more balls than a Space Marine.Facing a boss like that whit human limits needs some great courage and determination.
SargentDaleV 1 week ago
its about time we got the respect we earned, after all who do you think held off the forces of chaos and the xenos while the first Astartes were been made and stood alonge side the emperor to retake terra at the end of the age of strife. though that guardsman must havebeen very brave or his commander threatend to kill him, to charge that warboss.
ImperialElite666 1 week ago
they remind me of the nazis, a bit
tugicompany554 1 week ago
which ones? There are numerous of different imperial guards here.
Dkok no they are inspired from the french, belgian, english and a bit german. But only word war 1.
gurtznak 1 week ago
i always used the gaurd to swarm them. and the big tank with a butt ton of cannons helped too. :) you understand.
MegaZombiewaffle 1 week ago
Imperial Guard training: Try and do something with your weak ass lasgun then die
TheSolomon742 2 weeks ago
The Marines are better warriors sure, But who put there lives on the line day in day out? Who fights the wars, who Are inferior in every way but keep trying because they can and will save those billions of lives?
answer: The imperial Guard
HaloDrwhoSG1SGASGU 2 weeks ago
4:21 do i know thsi guy? wasnt he in some of the "Dan Abnett" Books!?
may he just remembers me on "PAIN" From alita
R4Akai 2 weeks ago
3:01
If thou wishes a soul piercing gaze upon thee.
Tarik360 2 weeks ago
Flak armour- Because protection is for cowards.
The Emperor protects.
drzoidburgrocks 2 weeks ago
@grendazer cheers for that! :)
bradrlz1993 3 weeks ago
Imperial Guard, one for all, all for one.
Schakal2556 3 weeks ago
Gaunts Ghost's at 0:33. Tanith, First and Only.
Reaver217 3 weeks ago
i used to think it was weird sms got automatic weapons and guard got lasers until i found out there was just an angry laser pointer and the other was a rapid firing rocket launcher
beenznrice31 4 weeks ago
i want that picture und 1:29 :o
Satarion100 1 month ago
What is the name of this song?
bradrlz1993 1 month ago
@bradrlz1993 Hanz Zimmer – War (OST Pearl Harbor)
grendazer 3 weeks ago
Title should be "Unsung Meatshields"
EyeOnTheTV 1 month ago
@EyeOnTheTV Well "meatshields" are the true heroes. So the title is a-ok.
TheNinjazorz 1 month ago
Very nice and unique concept art!
Agent1W 1 month ago
2:34 Reznov!
uratoko 1 month ago
where did you get that picture in 0:30 I collect elysians and would like to know where you got it
kapppow4 1 month ago
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GiladPellaeon 4 weeks ago
I feel like the imperial guard represent humanity more then anything else. Humans fighting within their human limits but fighting non the less.
GamingandSocialfun 1 month ago 22
@GamingandSocialfun
They are representing a loosing force of oppression due to a rotting corpse sitting on a malfunctioning piece of history.
This is the drama in each and every soldier of human kind.
Join the change, join the future, fight the monsters of the past!
We' ve got enough crap to kill for humanity for everyone.
We will do this on our own but we surley could use every hand.
Join chaos the undivided now and we will build humanity without bonds.
The human future.
SgtMayIRun 3 days ago
whats song is this from?
tommybui 1 month ago
Men and women of Tanith, Verghast and Belladon, do you want to live forever?!
TawmDee7 1 month ago
it's always the generals and govenors that get the recognition, but it's the guardsmen who are on the frontline, actualy facing the enemy head on, and the govenor/general that hides behind his hordes of guardsmen, tanks and baneblades..
AzariahKyras 1 month ago
In the end, I say it doesn't matter if your one of the Space Marines, the Imperial Guard, the SoB or any of the other armies who fight for the Emperor. All that matters is just that, you live and die in the Emperor's name while defeating his foes. For the Imperium! For the Emperor! Only in death does duty end!
TheGigafist 1 month ago
it saddens me that these poor schmucks have to stand toe to toe against forces as frightening as Chaos and the Tyranid :(
alvisc2002 1 month ago
3:09 Rembo???
2:09 Nazi Soldier??
XD
vvolf26 1 month ago
@vvolf26 "Rembo", is a Catachan. Catachans are literally all Rembo wannabees. But don't take that to mean they arent just as badass as Rembo. And the "Nazi Soldier" is a Death korps of Kreig soldier. That means he comes from a Death World. And wears a full head helmet. :P Hope that helps. If questions, google this shit.
OtherSideOfArgument 1 month ago
@vvolf26 Rambo guys are the meanest of them all, train to fight in tight formation in dense, infested jungle. they represent Rambo, or the marine corpe in the VN war. their true name is CATACHAN DEVILDOG
inspired from the Great war, they are the Death Korp of Kieg. King of trench and Siege warfare. They are nothing but diehard bastard, who is ready to fight teeth to teeth with their enemy.
hope this help. Steel Legion is more like German paratroopers from ww2
Mynameshere1310 1 month ago
@Mynameshere1310
The fact that they are German helmets and an improved mp40
vvolf26 1 month ago
@vvolf26 more like laser MP40 to me :D
Mynameshere1310 1 month ago
truly epic
druid54us 1 month ago
finally, some1 gives credit to the imperial guard
zerga303 2 months ago
guardsman are weak,and their only force is artillery,plus it is slow and unaccurate,i had hard time playing campaign with them on Lorn V
Citzen92 2 months ago
@Citzen92 Lol, obvious troll is obvious. Play the tabletop some, then talk some shit.
moom241 2 months ago
@moom241 group of Guardsmen ruin your entire day :P "Quantity has a quality all its own" - Joseph Stalin
6Xero9 1 month ago
@6Xero9 I'd drink to that if I had any alcohol on hand but I don't so I'll drink some of this tea instead. "The marines get the glory, but the guard get the work"--Commander Dreid Vasco on the Space marine's position in the galaxy. What am I talking about?
moom241 1 month ago
I hate to admit it, but the murderous psychopath had at least that right, in fact the dirty asshole won most battles with the tactic of "send troops, watch them die, send a big group, rinse and repeat until all the Nazis are dead", which is, by the way, the main tactic used by the Guard, only replacing "Nazis" with "Xenos", I of course prefer elite forces over masses of conscripts, but moral, large numbers and superior equipment are the tools for wining wars, is not elegant but it works
AkiraBrahe 1 month ago
@AkiraBrahe Also remember IG has Storm Troopers... And those huge tanks :D
6Xero9 1 month ago
@6Xero9 yes, of course, in fact I wrote a post about it, Space Marine are of course the best empire asset for precision strikes and armored combat but the Guard is quite able to execute special operations if the need arises...about super heavy tanks, well, just like titans they are extremely cool weapons and very useful under the right circumstances but on universe with orbital strike capacity they are very expensive big targets..I will stick to the marines...but respect the Guard
AkiraBrahe 1 month ago
@AkiraBrahe Space marine's have Boreale tho...
6Xero9 1 month ago
kewl - we owe you many beers
Smitemenow 2 months ago
0:28 well..hello my drawing,nice to know it ended up here in your tribute Dusk (:
Horus19961 2 months ago
pls tell me what is the music in 3:20 ?
Brisingr2392 2 months ago
I miss the Ogryns, the heroes when fighting Tyranids.
Beaviz81 2 months ago
0:14 is my draw if someone care ;j
MrPeahc 2 months ago 108
@MrPeahc oh yeah sure...
enizle5 2 months ago
@MrPeahc i hereby commissioning a golden 50 meters high statue of your fine self for making such an awesome piece...
Dustjericho 1 month ago
@MrPeahc epic.
lukewind13 1 month ago
@MrPeahc really nice one mate !
SharpenedScalpel 1 month ago
@MrPeahc
pretty impressive, you have some more art?
Defelial 1 month ago
@Defelial Sadly I don´t i lost the way with the art after i broke my hand.
MrPeahc 1 month ago
@MrPeahc Interesting. I should pick one of these movies and call out a random painting as my own and see if I get top comment.
EyeOnTheTV 1 month ago
@EyeOnTheTV :( But it really is mine
MrPeahc 1 month ago
@MrPeahc u drew that? cool
uclabruins211 1 month ago
@MrPeahc Awesome work =D
DuskSniper 3 weeks ago 2
@MrPeahc good work!
tazeris 2 weeks ago
@MrPeahc Do you have a Deviantart or a Tumblr?
FFJunkie10 2 weeks ago
@MrPeahc Well done. Looks terrific.
nightcorps 2 weeks ago
so this is what skyrim looks like thousands of years from now...
CandaEH 2 months ago
@CandaEH I was going to make a skyrim joke, but then I took a las shot to the knee.
Pyrotechnics45 2 months ago
@Pyrotechnics45 more like to the head, by a commisar for skyrim heresihy
notenufdaka 2 months ago
Don´t piss off the hammer of the emperor!
LyrelltheDark 2 months ago
4:25, that Ork nob is gonna 2 get own by the sheer AWESOMENESS of that Guardsman. Dude, he probably got his balls made of steel, man
theraynor1995 2 months ago
@theraynor1995
That's a man with only a few hours left to live, so you are half-right. Just read 15 hours.
Beaviz81 2 months ago
It has been said that if the Space Marines are the tip of the Imperium's spear, but the Guard are the rest of the spearhead, the shaft, and the man holding it.
crazy4sian 3 months ago
@crazy4sian And without its tip, a spear is useless.
BlackTemplar43 2 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 And without the driving force, all you have is the pointy end of a spearhead. Both are needed for a killing strike.
crazy4sian 2 months ago
whats the music? it sounds familiar.
TheZombieman87 3 months ago
The Guard has balls of steel.
I mean, if you think about it, for a regular man to throw himself into the fray against such formidable war machines as Orks, Eldar and Necrons, let alone the monstrous Tyranids and Ruinous Powers without super powerful genetic enhancements and weapons that would make all but the bravest or most foolhardy flee in terror, he'd either have to be completely mad or courageous in the extreme.
I'm inclined to believe the latter.
WOLF777dude 3 months ago
Orks > Imperial Guard > everything else.
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What do you mean exactly by "Lolnecrons" ?
ZharLestin 3 months ago
hay dusksniper grate vid really enjoyed it. i wanted to know, the music is from pearl harbor, but whats the name of the track?
RGV250100 3 months ago
Ollanius pius, a simple guardsman, who stood up to Horus as he was about to finish the emperor... Equiped with an ineffective lasgun and cardboard armor, he did his duty that day and made the emperor realise his favoured son had truely fallen to chaos.
He died holding the line.
Rilurio 3 months ago
@Rilurio ...Before he got retconned to the Adeptus Custodes.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
4:25 +1 for courage, honour, duty, etc. - 1 for stupidity xD
MrSoulbellow 3 months ago
Silly Imps and their flashlight guns
HellgateCA 3 months ago
Where the space marines can be compared to a scalpel the imperial guard is more in the direction of a sledge hammer
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
Space marine = glory boys
Guardsmen = dirty workers.
Guardsmens job arent only to defend most of the crusades liberating the different segmentums are fought only by the guardsmen with little to no support from the space marines.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Space Marines are His own sons, humanity's best and last hope against the terror. A Guardsman's life is to die, and a good commander makes use of his men to the best of his ability. Their job is to hold the line until the Space Marines arrive to win the battle.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 no its the guardsmen who saves the space marines asses. There is way to few space marines to do any major difference. The guard is the emporers true finest, its easy enough to be a hero with a automatic grenade launcher and a power armor.
Who is the true hero? the guy with a fragmention armor and a standard rifle dying everyday doing far more than expeted of them or the guys who is overly overrated and barely does what is needed of them?
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Usually on larger campaigns ( Cadia, Armageddon, Damocles etc.) the Marines have always turned the tide of the battle. Guard can hold against the enemy for a while, yes. But it is the Marines who eliminate command structures, big scary monsters and survive. They are not held godlike for nothing in the Imperium.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen And how can you say Space Marines barely do what is required of them? They know no fear, unlike the Guard which is usually recruited from workers and civilians. Marines are a one man army, they can take on Daemons, Ork Nobs and Eldar Aspect Warriors without so much as a scratch. They can fight very well even unarmed, as they have done in many books.
Besides, you don't see Commissars with Space Marines, do you? They fear them more than the enemy, and move forward.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 because they make mistakes and failures. Not all the time but they do. One is simply to much.
If a guardsman makes a mistak or fails his mission he is most likely shot.
If a guardsman does above what is expected of him he might get a pad on the shoulder from the officers and a cheer from his friends.
If a space marine does what is required of him he gets a medal.
A space marine should be by any means perfect and are praised as such
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Actually it's the other way around. If a guardsman succeeds remarkably, he might get a medal or a promotion easier than a marine.
A commissar can be a hero or a dick. He can either shoot guys at random or he can have justification why to do so. Some just choose to moralise others by killing their own.
A marine usually does not even get medals, but promotions for decandes of service. Rising through the ranks as a marine is a lot more difficult than as a guardsman.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 ah yes medals and promotions, only the very guardsmen is aknowledge for their actions because it is lost in the masses and hundreds of other just as brave deeds.
A rank as a guardsman is almost nothing compared to a rank of a space marine. Plus the rank the space marines have alredy is almost at the level of a lord
A space marine might not be promoted the first many years. most guardsmen dont survive their first.
Mortenhendriksen 2 months ago
@BlackTemplar43
A guardsman does what needed of him and isnt expected to be perfect. A guardsman would rarely get acknowledged for what he does and will never be called a hero but thousands and a guardsman will never see himself as a hero. Like the marines do.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen First of all, sorry for the delay of my response. I had some things to do.
Well, I have always thought of them as a important defender of the Imperium, who defeats small invasions, rebellions and conquers/ retakes worlds lost to the Imperium. Space Marines on the other hand are those who allow the guard to advance in vicious battles. An attack is halted because of heavy artillery, monstrous creatures or Daemons? Let the Marines handle them and move forward.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 First no need to say sorry for delaed response after all we have a life out side the computer.
Have you ever read the description GW made? (no offense ment) it says: The imprial guards is the hammer of the imperium where the space marines are the scalpel (not exactly what is written but close to it)
The guard is used for anything. Remember you dont know when or where the next deamon pops up so most of the time the only one nearby to handle it is the imperial guard.
Mortenhendriksen 2 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 The space marines are the second wave, No apparent reason to waste the best on something the next best can handle (the last is the PDF and arbitrators). The space marines task is on the other also to fight the known xenos infested areas or retrivel of artifacts.
The space marines are often sent in to figh next to the guard against the deamons of chaos just like the first war of armagedon. As GW says the space marines are the scalpel the guard is the hammer.
Mortenhendriksen 2 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 that plus half of all space marines regiments joined chaos not even 10 percent of guardsmen hav joined the chaos. Space marines and ungratefull for what they and are.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen As known as meatshields.
Source or it didn't happen. Besides, even if that would be real, it is explained by the fact that the Imperium reinforces the guard all the time. It is extremely long process to reinforce SM chapters. In horus heresy, only about 100 000 Marines (assuming each legion had about 10 000 marines) defected to chaos. In the age of the Imperium, only a couple of thousand marines join the chaos in a century.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 at the time they turned half of the chapters followed horus and since then more have joined chaos.
Yes meatshields who wins wars and in millions.
And why do they need more and more guardsmen? well for the space maries undended wars, because guardsmen (unlike space marines) gets old, they die, because they fight and hundreds of crusades, are sacrificed so marines can live on.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Half of LEGIONS, not chapters. Chapters were formed after the Heresy. Don't tell mee I don't know about the Heresy when clearly you do not know everything. Many regiments were also lost durig that time, even more numerous than the legions. You need more and more guardsmen because if no one would reinforce them they would run out in a very short time. They serve to defend, not to win wars.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 oh sorry then chapters like its better. And if any of us know about heresy then it is those who fights it. Its the guard whom always are the first into battle and the last to leave, dead or alive.
And yes more guardsmen turned, but as you said yourself, "they know no fear" and with all their blessings and all their weapons and armor, the it should be impossible to turn yet some does.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen I guess I was nitpicking with the Legions/Chapters thing. Sorry for that.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 no problem dude i did the same with the regiments lets just say we both made mistake eh?
Mortenhendriksen 2 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 and half is way more than the any amount of the armed guardsmen have ever turned at the same time.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 Oh and horus heresy i think you should know it
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Unlike the Guard, whose whole regiments can turn into chaos in just a few years. Sometimes these regiments include hundreds of thousands of men. More Guard have turned into Chaos than Marines. Procentually this is little, because the Guard has trillions of troopers.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 maybe but a regiment first of does not count in thusands maybe be a few hundreds even in the imperium. Second that might be but to loose just a single space marine is a defeat in itself and shows that with all the enchancements they can turn with all their loyalty they are no better than a guardsman whom in their eyes are lesser persons.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Straight from the IG Codex: " A regiment's size may vary depending on where it is raised. A backwater Agri-world can make regiments comprised of a few thousand man and women, while those hailing from hive worlds can be monsters with hundreds of thousands of men."
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 yeah might be but still when you look at the codex, and the setting of how you make the regiment then its still not thousands.
And a agriworld wouldnt have that many, agriworlds isnt highly populated since its worlds full of farmers.
And hive worlds still only muster what they are asked for, even the guard have standards that is needed to be followed
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Well, the Tundra Wolves regiment consists of over 120 000 fighting men and women. Yes, the size can depend on the population of the world, but I think some novel stated that there are thousands per regiment.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 and are you thinking of valhallans? they are conscripts not guardsmen.
Mortenhendriksen 2 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Nope. Only a few Marines ever turn to chaos. The Imperial Guard loses thousands of men to chaos each year. Space Marines are so superior to normal humans, that to lost only one of them is a serious blow to the whole imperium.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
@BlackTemplar43 exactly that is why guardsmen are superior they might turn but they arent given anything near the help the space marines get to prevent from turning or getting corrupted.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Usually their superiors do not tell them what they will face on the battlefield, so they are not too afraid to fight. For example the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer has propaganda about how inferior and unwothy thier enemies are. I truth, it would be suicide to enter close-combat with an Ork, for example.
However, after they realise what they are up against, they still continue fighting, which can be seen as courage, or fear that the Commissars will shoot them.
BlackTemplar43 3 months ago
4:45 is that a Women.
orksmasha134 3 months ago
@orksmasha134 in the imperial guard men and women are fightnig along each other. Some regiments only recruits men and some only women.
Mortenhendriksen 3 months ago
@Mortenhendriksen Well and I thought the Sororitas were the only female strike force of the Imperium.
orksmasha134 3 months ago
4:24 balls of steel
derWolfemann 4 months ago
when one dies 100 more takes his/her place lets see u fight all of us u xeno son of a bitch
takkun34 4 months ago
Space Marines=The sword of the Emporer
Imperial Guard=The shield of the Emporer
any disagreements? good. if soo GTFO of a guardsmen tribute
(stupid trolls)
fallout3vaultboy 4 months ago 16
@fallout3vaultboy no because the imperial guard is known as the hammer of the emperor not the shield -.-
1Showgun1 3 months ago
@1Showgun1
fallout3vaultboy 3 months ago
@1Showgun1 omah gawd fine a hammer to tear shit up and a sword for precise strikes
fallout3vaultboy 3 months ago
@fallout3vaultboy actually its
space marines=scalpel of the emperor when you need the precise stuff done
Imperial Guard=sledge hammer of the emperor when you simply need to blow xeno shit up
GnosisZX 3 months ago 5
@GnosisZX
Imperial guard = Sledge hammer, blow stuff up.
Space Marines = Where mere humans can't get the job done.
TheAdept1302 1 month ago
@GnosisZX well actually spacemarines are the tactical strike units and aren't meant for what the imperial guard are for the imperial guard are for protecting citizens so they are many but the space marines are few when compared
subject431 1 month ago
@subject431 Gnosis was correct, Space Marines are the scalpel of the Emperor, they are used for precision strikes. The Imperial Guard are used when you simply need more manpower than the Space Marines can provide, e.g. fighting along an extended front. The Imperial Guard are the Hammer of the Emperor because they are not, and cannot be, used for anything short of overpowering the enemy with sheer numbers and firepower.
Pyrotechnics45 1 month ago
..there is a lot of exceptions to that, the Guard Storm Troopers are very good special operations forces, the Ratling are superb snipers, the jungle fighters are very good infiltrator under the right conditions, so, there is a lot for situations where Guard forces can and should be used for precision strikes, as well as there are situations where the Space marines are forced to remain on the defensive for a while, the Imperial Fists are very good at defense and counterattack :)
AkiraBrahe 1 month ago
@subject431 Indeed: The Marines win battles (just too few and expensive for more) - the Guard wins wars (let them be offensive or defensive)
MrKazaddum 1 month ago 28
@MrKazaddum It is because they are far less numerous than the Guard. The Marines made the Imperium, you know. They are also heroes of the Imperium, who have saved many a Guardsman.
BlackTemplar43 2 weeks ago
@BlackTemplar43 ....What? The marines didn't make the Imperium, man and the Emperor did. In fact, the early imperial army MADE the marines in a way. The Geno five-two chilliad experimented with genetic modifications on their soldiers which the emperor took for a basis in the primarch project, leading to the marines.
Marines need to remember their original place. Attack dogs for mankind, nothing more.
DelightfulTyrant 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant Without the "attack dogs" of mankind, the Imperium would have fallen a long time ago. It is the Guard who are nothing more than Human shields buying enough time for the Marines to arrive and win important battles. They are the true defenders of the Imperium.
And don't get me wrong. I like the Guard. I am just sick of all the whining Guard players who cry that Marines steal their glory and that they are nothing compared to the Guard.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant And It was the Marines who built the Imperium. The Imperial Army simply provided garrison forces and transport while they were shaping the Imperium. It was only after the Heresy that the Army was divided into the Imperial Guard and Navy. Horus Heresy was the first conflict which called for their military assistance.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@BlackTemplar43 No, no it wasn't, lol. Listen, the space marines and their primarchs where not united and fielded till after the initiation of the Great Crusade, AFTER the Emperor had united Earth under his rule, taken Luna, and then Mars.
Where do you think gene seed mutations come from? There where nowhere near enough Astartes to fight across the Galaxy and the attempt to produce them quicker led to flaws. The Imperial Army ALWAYS carried the weight.
DelightfulTyrant 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant As I said, they were mainly a garrisoning force, however they did fight along the Marine Legions. But really, there were a shitload of marines even before the Emperor found the primarchs. He simply broke the Legions into smaller forces and gave control over them to the individual primarchs as they were found.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@BlackTemplar43 This is all basic fluff that has been around for a LONG time. And saying that the Heresy was the first conflict that called for the Imperial Army is flat out wrong. I have several books within 10 ft of me that prove that wrong. Hell, Legion alone shows the Imperial Army fighting and fighting hard.
And are you forgetting the "Old Hundred"? There loooong before the marines, fighting for mankind.
DelightfulTyrant 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant As a garisoning force, they originally were designed to SUPPORT and DEFEND, not conquer by themselves. Nowadays the situation has changed, but still, Marines are the primus motor which wins out wars and upholds the morale.
The Imperial Guard has two choices in a war. Either advance without support, very likely taking massive casualties in a prolonged conflict, ordeep strike the Marines and advance with unstoppable might and light casualties.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@BlackTemplar43 Christ, you are one of those kids that played the RTS and now thinks he knows the 2 and a half decades of story, aren't you? Listen, you are wrong, read Legion, imperial army is fighting on its own, and Alpha Legion shows up of its own volition. The 'Old Hundred' is OLDER and CONQUERED BEFORE the creation of the marines. These are basic facts. How did the Emperor take Luna? How did he Take Mars? Why are there Gene-Seed Mutations? All these facts say you are wrong.
DelightfulTyrant 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant The Imperial Army was a mighty force, which conquered many systems, yes. But it was the Space Marine Legions who completed the great crusade. The Imperial Army in general was pressed into real service only after the Legions grew too thin, which was at the dawn of the Horus Heresy.
And I believe that I never said the Imperial Army didn't conquer anything. I stated that the Space Marine Legions completed the Crusade they had started.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant Even Lexicanum says that the Imperial Army was founded AFTER the Marines needed SUPPORT during their conquest, to GARRISON worlds and perform invasions WITH the Marines.
When the Horus Heresy took place, the Imperial Army regiments UNDER THE COMMAND OF the Astartes either rebelled or stayed loyal depending on the Legions controlling them.
So, even if the Army fought many battles alone, it was because the Astartes told them to do so. Who is the "attack dog of mankind" now?
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant Luna and Mars were only the beginning. After those conquests he had gained the technology to produce Marines, and conquered the rest of the Solar system with them. They were the ones who drove away the Alien slavers from the moons of Jupiter and Saturn, and they were the ones who started the crusade. The Imperial Army only began to actively fight after the Marines Legions were spread into the galaxy and required support, as I already told you.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant And no, I am not a kid who has learned his stuff from the RTSes. Are you?
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant There are gene-seed mutations because the Chapters use various methods to transport it into their initiates, some being more stable and safe than others.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant In the beginning, The Old Hundred conquered Terra, Luna and Mars, if you can call the latter two conquests since there was little to no resistance on Luna, and Mars allied with Terra.
After that, the Marines took their place, and their primary role was to support the Marine armies and defend Terra.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@BlackTemplar43 Incorrect, there was fighting on both. So we have established they built the foundation of the Imperium by conquering the Sol system. Then comes the fact that they kept fighting on their own. Here, since I like the Geno, we will focus on them. They fought a 6 week campaing against Orks on Foechion, fought draganoid cadres on Zantium, and fought Nurthene rebels on Nurth.
No marines. They fought, and they Won, all to build the Imperium during the Great Crusade.
DelightfulTyrant 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant Alright, the Imperial Army has won many victories on its own. I never told otherwise. I merely said it did so to support the Astartes.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@DelightfulTyrant It seems that we are not listening to each other. You say that the Marines are nothing compared to the Imperial Guard, which I strongly disagree with.
I say that the Imperial Army merely supported the Astartes, even though they were fighting on their own.
We are both right and wrong. I may have underestimated the importance of the Army, whereas you may have underestimated the importance of the Space Marines. Lets just leave it here.
BlackTemplar43 1 week ago
@BlackTemplar43 Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. When did I say they are nothing? And the gene seed mutations are there because they had to be mass produced faster because there weren't enough, not for the reunification and conquest of the galaxy. And yes, you did say they didn't win victories on their own. "Guard who are nothing more than Human shields buying enough time for the Marines" Your words there. A man admits when he is wrong.
DelightfulTyrant 1 week ago
@MrKazaddum
The Grey Knights fight evil so vile that it would cause the minds of lesser mortals to collapse into madness from the very sight of it.
Washu1973 2 weeks ago
@fallout3vaultboy
space marines = scalpes of the emperor
imperial guard = steel reinforced concrete wall of the emperor
Ogidamanisha 2 months ago
@fallout3vaultboy just one, the Guard is not a purely defensive army, hence its other moniker, the Hammer of the Emperor, as the Guard strikes like a warhammer, without pinpoint precision.
ImperialGuard322nd 2 months ago in playlist Govener Derrek's Playlist
@ImperialGuard322nd Indeed you are correct. The main defensive component of the IG are the PDF (Planetary Defense Force) groups.
BrianLeexx 2 months ago
NOT EVEN IN DEATH DOES DUTY END.
BlueConeProductions 4 months ago
The space marines may be the sword of the empire but the IG are the shield every single day guardsmen fight and die defending worlds from the many enemies of the empire what they lack in strength they more than make up for in bravery. To all the men and women of the Imperial Guard. We salute you! For the Empire!!!
SoldierJ1986 4 months ago 2
4:24 the true meaning of bravery... a humble guardsman bayonetting an ork warboss/nob in the bollocks =D
unbeatablesniper16 4 months ago
Lets face it..Both the Imperial Guard and the space marines have fought battles, both fight and die for the Emperor.
TheHeartlessLust 4 months ago 9
@TheHeartlessLust But who gets to come back and continue to fight as a fucking dreadnought?
stabymcstab5 2 months ago
4:25 pure courage!!!!!!!!!!
theraynor1995 4 months ago
2:28 it' s my draw :))))
CrisM1 4 months ago 21
@CrisM1 Awesome =D!
DuskSniper 4 months ago 7
@CrisM1 What's it called?
NewGuy2534 2 months ago
Without the gaurd the imperium would collapse. Without the space marines it would be conquered. Both are utterly crucial to the survival of man. The gaurd are meant to hold the line and the space marines are meant to face enemies that no mere man can face.
Lreeves4 4 months ago 58
@Lreeves4 tell that to the cadians they woop chaos numeris times and that some of the worst shit that man has to fight
takkun34 4 months ago
@Lreeves4 Their duty is clear : To Hold the Line or Die Standing
DraskyVanderhoff 3 months ago
@Lreeves4 actually the imperium can survive without the astartes it just would take a lot more loss life from the guard but they can still survive
GnosisZX 3 months ago