@oohmammaoohmamma dude thts obviously a car totally rebuilt to the max of high performance parts. If both were stock. muscle would kill tht peice of shit.
@checker889 lmao are you trolling me? i love american muscle, im a mopar guy to the core but a stock supra came with twin turbos and were pushing 500hp off the line as well as aerodynamics and a better power to weight ratio compared to a 4 speed 3800+ lbs pontiac with a 400hp AT MOST stock, you sir do not know much about supras 2jz's are some wicked motors they hang with z06's
@oohmammaoohmamma haha dude american muscle will beat any jap shit stock. Don't kid yourself. ask anybody who isn't a tool or a squint eyed chink. American muscle is a man's car my friend. Besides what do you expect from a 40 year old car. with literally no complex technology? i my myself think that's pretty impressive.
@checker889 hahaahhahah complex technology your new CAMARO has the same piece of crap suspension like 40 years ago, only a bit different colour LOL silly americans
@elvisvwvw camaro? i have a 1969 Buick riviera dude and it gets on it for an old boat. u have to give them credit. 4500 lbs pure iron and steel. cast iron engines. dude your little jap cars are pure fiberglass and aluminum. no shit they can get going. but they still always overcome imports. american muscle came first. and will be the last.
@checker889 you are fucked in the head guy you're like the american version of a ricer. this car has money poured into it and has low end torque with a v8 where as the supra has a 2jz that has a better mid-top end bring these cars to a track and see who wins, or better yet put the same amount of cash that the pontiac has dumped into it and you'll be seeing toyota tail lights all day and i drive a roadrunner so don't even try to call me a ricer you fucktard
@checker889 i love american muscle, but let me put it this way so you can undrstand it, if japanese or european engineers, try to build 6.0 engines your motor industry would go bankrupt, so if you mean that stock engine with 5.7l vs 1.6l or 2.0l is a fair fight than ok that is your opinion LOL i love when a dirtbag with daddys car come to the line and he thinks of wastin me, and ends up crying out of rage!!! i dislike ricers too, trust me i have a full country of them.....
@elvisvwvw ... but there are few of many that are really tuners ,and they dont put stupid ass spoilers...etc simply my rule is lower the car, tune the engine and tranny, put some tires and that is it ! srry bout my english
I love fast cars, which means I love a fast supra, but I'll always be a good ole heavy iron american car guy. I know I would never be dumbass enough to line my 71 challenger up against a built Supra lol even though I love my car way more then the other. I'm proud, not dumb lolol
The Supra is the best car ever Built!if u learn What it csn do!and how!with what and,what year!not alot of cars do that!if they do they got bigger engines!and r way more new than a 2jz!thats why the Supra is a One of a kind car!Unique!!!Special!!so many Haters!
So what is your criterion for the best car every built?My 86 GN isn't a way newer engine, actually it is a 60's engine design coupled with 80's technology 3.8L v6 turbo charged and intercooled. I paid 13k for mine, in excellent condition invested a mere 2k & running 11s 1/4miles. Can you spend that little to buy a Supra and upgrade and be in the 11s?My car comfortably seats 5, air conditioning is ice cold, power locks, windows, steering and it is a pretty comfortable ride. Stereo sucks though.
lol the raw power sounds that. It's called also naturally aspirated. Supra needs 4bars of boost to make that kind of times. V8 makes that without turbocharger and without turbolag
here we're looking at a car with over twice the displacement and two more cylinders, and it's barely faster. there's nothing wrong with having a turbo, it's not a cheat, it's not some magical add-on, it's the result of someone who was genius enough to realize engines don't need to be so damn big to be fast.
and 4 bars of boost is more than a little exaggerated.
you act like power only comes in a huge, obnoxious package, well the Supra proves you wrong.
Yea but usually all turbocar's have the lag and it's fucking disturbing! And what if the turbo loses it ability to create boost? Then u got that naturally aspirated 1.6-3.0 liter little engine. Well not want to make war but nothing beats cid's at the end u know promods top fuel funnycars all have big V8's and of course u need to remember that these two cars have over 20 year age difference. in 1970's there were no japanese made car which could keep up those so called muscle cars.
stock muscle cars really aren't all that fast. the engines sound impressive, but the cars just don't move fast. for the time, yes, but think about the old 455 Trans Am. it had a HUGE engine, yet couldn't get out of its own way. now once you upgrade them, it's a different story. actually, back in the 70s, Toyota had the 2000GT, which in 1968, could keep right up with stock American muscle. even the little RA22 Celicas were quick...
well the stock muscles went high 12's - high 14's in stock condition. Those cars had pretty high gear ratio something over 4.07 so the top speed was something around 120-140mph. Yes you are right toyota got 2000gt but that's the only one? it only got 150hp but being a light car it moved pretty good all the way till 135mph top speed.
stock muscle cars actually were very quick...alot went low 13's in stock form...quicker than a stock supra, some went 12's..the factory leightweights went 10's!!!!!
You know that a Stock 6 speed Supra has gone in the 12s right? And in stock form with a driver they can go low 13s as well? Lets stop hating on the Supra, it is one of the greatest cars out of Japan.
im not hating, i love supras, but i really do hate the fact that people think stock muscle cant match modern performance, when if you have any knowledge, you will no they can. Thats what they were built for, speed. isnt the '68 l023 factory leightweight hemi dart the quickest production car ever made in the 1/4 mile??
in 1968 you had the hemi darts and hemi cudas with similar performance, not sure whcih ones had the quicker times. They were all built by hurst. Specs show that from the showroom floor, if you bolted some slicks on them they would go 10.2 at 140mph+
In your defence im talking about factory drag cars. As we all know, there are different models of cars. Think about it also. Tire technology has come along way. Alot of them cars wheelspan there way down the strip,look at some test footage from the 60's. alot of muscle stock cars back then went 12's, the big block cars. The small block cars ran mid 14's to late 15 sec runs. do some research and ull see. Muscle cars from back then are as fast or even faster than todays sports cars.
Indeed...Those big heavy cars were literally rockets...Those engines having that much power to launch them like that and sometimes bring the front wheels off the ground....That is AMAZING...
yep! :D..sorry to the import guys, but muscle cars will always rule the strips. just look at facts and figures and records set. v8's will always come out on top and you know they will!
@HarrisPerformance you must be out of your mind ,look at a muschle car for ecample,6 cc and 300 HP , look at a japanese car 2 cc 1000HP, now wath?,i tell you why,because they don't use injection like japanese, they use carburettor
Let's see here 1969 boss 429, 13's in the 1/4 mile stock. In 1969. A hot car off the assembly line today only run's in the 13 E/T range. Thats 4 fuckin decade's ago 40 year's ago, and the only car's that are beating a 4 decade old car today off the assembly line are exotic sport's car's.
Your Toyota 2000 Gt only went 0-60 in ten second's and had a 1/4 mile E/T of 16 second's, and a top speed of 128 mph and that was with the 150 hp twin cam inline six motor. The 2000Gt lead to the clica which appered in 1971. The celica supra only became a supra in 1986 when the celica model switched to front wheel drive. The supra is still rear wheel drive. There are rumors of toyota reproducing the supra once again but with a V8 which has some enthusiasts mad.That's rite a
even if they would have left the muscle car still would have shot out in front...besides that supra had probly twin turbo and the auther was strait motor amagin a supercharger on it....yeha
muscle cars are meant for the strip. ricers are meant for drifting
checker889 1 year ago
@checker889 tell that to a twin turbo 1500 hp supra ripping through chevys and fords all day at the strip
oohmammaoohmamma 1 year ago
@oohmammaoohmamma dude thts obviously a car totally rebuilt to the max of high performance parts. If both were stock. muscle would kill tht peice of shit.
checker889 1 year ago
@checker889 lmao are you trolling me? i love american muscle, im a mopar guy to the core but a stock supra came with twin turbos and were pushing 500hp off the line as well as aerodynamics and a better power to weight ratio compared to a 4 speed 3800+ lbs pontiac with a 400hp AT MOST stock, you sir do not know much about supras 2jz's are some wicked motors they hang with z06's
oohmammaoohmamma 1 year ago
@oohmammaoohmamma haha dude american muscle will beat any jap shit stock. Don't kid yourself. ask anybody who isn't a tool or a squint eyed chink. American muscle is a man's car my friend. Besides what do you expect from a 40 year old car. with literally no complex technology? i my myself think that's pretty impressive.
checker889 1 year ago
@checker889 hahaahhahah complex technology your new CAMARO has the same piece of crap suspension like 40 years ago, only a bit different colour LOL silly americans
elvisvwvw 1 year ago
@elvisvwvw camaro? i have a 1969 Buick riviera dude and it gets on it for an old boat. u have to give them credit. 4500 lbs pure iron and steel. cast iron engines. dude your little jap cars are pure fiberglass and aluminum. no shit they can get going. but they still always overcome imports. american muscle came first. and will be the last.
checker889 1 year ago
@checker889 you are fucked in the head guy you're like the american version of a ricer. this car has money poured into it and has low end torque with a v8 where as the supra has a 2jz that has a better mid-top end bring these cars to a track and see who wins, or better yet put the same amount of cash that the pontiac has dumped into it and you'll be seeing toyota tail lights all day and i drive a roadrunner so don't even try to call me a ricer you fucktard
oohmammaoohmamma 1 year ago
@checker889 i love american muscle, but let me put it this way so you can undrstand it, if japanese or european engineers, try to build 6.0 engines your motor industry would go bankrupt, so if you mean that stock engine with 5.7l vs 1.6l or 2.0l is a fair fight than ok that is your opinion LOL i love when a dirtbag with daddys car come to the line and he thinks of wastin me, and ends up crying out of rage!!! i dislike ricers too, trust me i have a full country of them.....
elvisvwvw 1 year ago
@elvisvwvw ... but there are few of many that are really tuners ,and they dont put stupid ass spoilers...etc simply my rule is lower the car, tune the engine and tranny, put some tires and that is it ! srry bout my english
elvisvwvw 1 year ago
I love fast cars, which means I love a fast supra, but I'll always be a good ole heavy iron american car guy. I know I would never be dumbass enough to line my 71 challenger up against a built Supra lol even though I love my car way more then the other. I'm proud, not dumb lolol
zeppelin67637 1 year ago
supra took it haha.
unwantedguysss 1 year ago
what a dumb ass comment from bud thinkin stock muscle cars are slow. there meant to go in a strait line FAST. hahah what an idiot
MrBansheeguy 2 years ago
Trap speeds and times don't seem to match well. I assume it's from the slower response from the Supra driver?
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago
The Supra is the best car ever Built!if u learn What it csn do!and how!with what and,what year!not alot of cars do that!if they do they got bigger engines!and r way more new than a 2jz!thats why the Supra is a One of a kind car!Unique!!!Special!!so many Haters!
garni323 2 years ago 2
So what is your criterion for the best car every built?My 86 GN isn't a way newer engine, actually it is a 60's engine design coupled with 80's technology 3.8L v6 turbo charged and intercooled. I paid 13k for mine, in excellent condition invested a mere 2k & running 11s 1/4miles. Can you spend that little to buy a Supra and upgrade and be in the 11s?My car comfortably seats 5, air conditioning is ice cold, power locks, windows, steering and it is a pretty comfortable ride. Stereo sucks though.
sinusbradycardia 2 years ago
bracket racing
darkritual667 2 years ago
the supra launched about 2 seconds later, do you honestly think the supra is running high sevens? think before you respond
boxerbart 3 years ago
it was a bracket race, the supra runs faster times to they gave the muscle car a second start
darkritual667 2 years ago
supras KILL!!!!
AugDaug 3 years ago
Supras are ok no the best car out there
68chargerlover 3 years ago
SUPRA 4 LIFE BEST CAR EVER
pitbullsdog 3 years ago
that muscle car sounds like shit lol
kevinolstad 3 years ago
are you joking? thats the sound of power not japan riced shit and blow off valves
ingoldma 3 years ago
lol the raw power sounds that. It's called also naturally aspirated. Supra needs 4bars of boost to make that kind of times. V8 makes that without turbocharger and without turbolag
impalaccc 3 years ago
here we're looking at a car with over twice the displacement and two more cylinders, and it's barely faster. there's nothing wrong with having a turbo, it's not a cheat, it's not some magical add-on, it's the result of someone who was genius enough to realize engines don't need to be so damn big to be fast.
and 4 bars of boost is more than a little exaggerated.
you act like power only comes in a huge, obnoxious package, well the Supra proves you wrong.
kevinsupra90 2 years ago 4
Yea but usually all turbocar's have the lag and it's fucking disturbing! And what if the turbo loses it ability to create boost? Then u got that naturally aspirated 1.6-3.0 liter little engine. Well not want to make war but nothing beats cid's at the end u know promods top fuel funnycars all have big V8's and of course u need to remember that these two cars have over 20 year age difference. in 1970's there were no japanese made car which could keep up those so called muscle cars.
impalaccc 2 years ago
stock muscle cars really aren't all that fast. the engines sound impressive, but the cars just don't move fast. for the time, yes, but think about the old 455 Trans Am. it had a HUGE engine, yet couldn't get out of its own way. now once you upgrade them, it's a different story. actually, back in the 70s, Toyota had the 2000GT, which in 1968, could keep right up with stock American muscle. even the little RA22 Celicas were quick...
kevinsupra90 2 years ago
well the stock muscles went high 12's - high 14's in stock condition. Those cars had pretty high gear ratio something over 4.07 so the top speed was something around 120-140mph. Yes you are right toyota got 2000gt but that's the only one? it only got 150hp but being a light car it moved pretty good all the way till 135mph top speed.
impalaccc 2 years ago
stock muscle cars actually were very quick...alot went low 13's in stock form...quicker than a stock supra, some went 12's..the factory leightweights went 10's!!!!!
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
You know that a Stock 6 speed Supra has gone in the 12s right? And in stock form with a driver they can go low 13s as well? Lets stop hating on the Supra, it is one of the greatest cars out of Japan.
kageryu311 2 years ago 3
im not hating, i love supras, but i really do hate the fact that people think stock muscle cant match modern performance, when if you have any knowledge, you will no they can. Thats what they were built for, speed. isnt the '68 l023 factory leightweight hemi dart the quickest production car ever made in the 1/4 mile??
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
Wasn't the Cuda the fastest production muscle car?
kageryu311 2 years ago
in 1968 you had the hemi darts and hemi cudas with similar performance, not sure whcih ones had the quicker times. They were all built by hurst. Specs show that from the showroom floor, if you bolted some slicks on them they would go 10.2 at 140mph+
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
If that was the case why were there a lot of 14-16 second cars during that era? Or were those two cars limited edition?
kageryu311 2 years ago
In your defence im talking about factory drag cars. As we all know, there are different models of cars. Think about it also. Tire technology has come along way. Alot of them cars wheelspan there way down the strip,look at some test footage from the 60's. alot of muscle stock cars back then went 12's, the big block cars. The small block cars ran mid 14's to late 15 sec runs. do some research and ull see. Muscle cars from back then are as fast or even faster than todays sports cars.
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
True that man....I have a 70 Challenger R/T with a 440 Six Pack....I've killed new sports cars in the few races I have done...including Supras
scott93257 2 years ago
yeah! if you look at alot of stock muscle cars, they would go deep into the 13's with traction issues back then 40+ years ago!
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
Yes indeed....It's amazing..
scott93257 2 years ago
yep!and then theres the weight of them...
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
Indeed...Those big heavy cars were literally rockets...Those engines having that much power to launch them like that and sometimes bring the front wheels off the ground....That is AMAZING...
scott93257 2 years ago
yep! :D..sorry to the import guys, but muscle cars will always rule the strips. just look at facts and figures and records set. v8's will always come out on top and you know they will!
HarrisPerformance 2 years ago
@HarrisPerformance Thats why Supras hold the 6 speed IRS record in the 1/4, right?
kageryu311 1 year ago
@HarrisPerformance you must be out of your mind ,look at a muschle car for ecample,6 cc and 300 HP , look at a japanese car 2 cc 1000HP, now wath?,i tell you why,because they don't use injection like japanese, they use carburettor
XxBogdY 1 year ago
@kageryu311 japan sux except the ps3 haha
ZxMURDER 1 year ago
@ZxMURDER You are funny.
kageryu311 1 year ago
Let's see here 1969 boss 429, 13's in the 1/4 mile stock. In 1969. A hot car off the assembly line today only run's in the 13 E/T range. Thats 4 fuckin decade's ago 40 year's ago, and the only car's that are beating a 4 decade old car today off the assembly line are exotic sport's car's.
460ciford 2 years ago
Your Toyota 2000 Gt only went 0-60 in ten second's and had a 1/4 mile E/T of 16 second's, and a top speed of 128 mph and that was with the 150 hp twin cam inline six motor. The 2000Gt lead to the clica which appered in 1971. The celica supra only became a supra in 1986 when the celica model switched to front wheel drive. The supra is still rear wheel drive. There are rumors of toyota reproducing the supra once again but with a V8 which has some enthusiasts mad.That's rite a
V8...
460ciford 2 years ago
@kevinsupra90 then again, the supra is more than a ton lighter
xXxdaguitarfreakxXx 1 year ago
@xXxdaguitarfreakxXx hahahaha I can't stop laughing. no.
kevinsupra90 1 year ago
4 bar my ass!! Try putting that in a fully built inline 6
And im very sure there will be fireworks!!
JHPINLINE41979 2 years ago
even if they would have left the muscle car still would have shot out in front...besides that supra had probly twin turbo and the auther was strait motor amagin a supercharger on it....yeha
ILoveSpeakers123 3 years ago
badass!!!!!!! :)
babot99 3 years ago
wow that supra almost caught up after that start
aznxkilla22 3 years ago