Watching americans argue about healthcare is really funny!!!! We don't get to do too much of that over in the UK because one and all are taken care off with the NHS (not a perfect system, but good one)!!
National Healthcare is the best thing to happen to this country since FDR was president everyone shut up once all this political bullshit gets through you will see its beauties
Yeah ... we should entirely disband the gummint and revert to a feudal society. And while we're at it, we could abolish all those pointy-headed intellectual scientists with their "theories" about evolution and global warming and gravity.
Yeah ... 1347 A.D. was the best time. A good ol'-fashioned faith-based society with no big gummint.
@wfmkk Charity comes from the heart not the Gov't, and all these entitlement programs are Bankrupting our nations. One last word which you may not understand"Constitution"
Awww ... and corporations are run by Care Bears too.
"all these entitlement programs"
Ever heard of payroll taxes? Do you even pay taxes? Social Security and Medicare Part A are both SELF-SUPPORTING (no general tax revenue).
The country is broke due to (A) huge tax cuts for the rich and (B) huge expenditures on the military adventures started by Shrub -- the puppet from Crawford, Texas.
Here's your homework question: What is the Social Contract?
The country is broke because corrupt politicians -- both Republicans and Democrats -- allowed the U.S. Treasury to be systematically LOOTED by the wealthiest segments of society (primarily banks and military contractors).
@wfmkk Tax cuts to the rich? Are you for real? Right out of the Obama Handbook. the rich pay most of the taxes in this country and the rich provide most of the jobs. When it comes to taxes, I'm self-employed making over $250,000.00, which Obama calls us the so called Rich! When I struggle to meet payroll, try not to lay people off, and yet people like you want more. So if you agree with payroll taxes then you agree that Corp should not pay taxes? Which is it?
Not exactly. The Constitution **is** the social contract. And despite what libertoon ideology would have you believe, a social contract is necessarily a COMPROMISE between individual rights and the public interest.
@wfmkk I don't want nor do I take anything from the Gov't that's not afforded to me in the Constitution, and if you want your social contract, then start voting for others that want it too, but keep me out.
One thing I have found out being self-employed, is that Gov't takes and gives nothing in return, or just makes a complete mess of things.
You obviously don't use public libraries, and you have your own private fire department, your own private police protection, your own private roads, your own private meat inspectors, your own private sewage system, and your own private water works.
@wfmkk nobody uses public libraries anymore smarty pants, face palm, im sure they are very easy to run. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. keep the power divided. you didn't mention the war on drugs, department of education, or any other of the giant failures. washington is like pro-wrestling. left wing and right wing belong to same eagle. bush was bad cop, obama is good cop. so do you believe that the 2 trillion dollars was really "missing". pull head out of arse please
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The University of Pennsylvania found that "homes located within a quarter-mile of a branch library were worth an average of $9,630 more than homes outside that radius."
If you're going to argue against the Harris poll, then you'll need to offer some actual credible evidence that supports your statement. Otherwise, you look like a wing nut.
"know one is in there"
LOL ... Are you there to READ?
"When is the last time you have been in one?"
Yesterday.
"im sure i could come up with stats."
I'm sure you could NOT, because you're obviously full of shit.
Hmmmm Patriot Act was passed...silence. Invading Iraq when they posed no threat to us...silence. TARP...SIlence. Wall Street bailouts...silence. But giving everyone in America a chance have health care, and if you like your current PRIVATE health care you can keep it, causes people to act like this? The biggest threat to gov. is OUR generation they love it we don't vote cause things stay the same. 18-29 yr olds let's shock them with our voter turn out this year. This is OUR future too!
I wonder if Dick Cheney would have gotten all of his heart surgeries if he was a private citizen? With his pre-existing condition he would have been DENIED! But nope my tax dollars pay for HIS health care and ALL the health care for ALL the politicians, but we the people suffer while they sit and laugh at us. We are the victims of greed. Think about that the next time you get a huge bill from your ins. company. Stop the Republicans from repealing the new health care bill.
In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me — and by that time no one was left to speak up. ~ Pastor Martin Niemöller
Yeah my premium went UP! What's funny is that I went to the doctor once, True story by the way, and I remember that I had sent in my insurance payment 2 days before it was due. Of course the mail didn't deliver it till like 4 days later but during those 2 days I went to the clinic and I was DENIED care and told I had to pay for the DR visit because the clinic said that the insurance company didn't receive the payment! True story and I challenge you idiots anyday who try to call me a liar!!!
@Slayerfan84 It wouldn't have happened if you paid it ON TIME! It isn't the mail carrier's fault you waited until the last second to send in your payment. That's like complaining that the credit company shuts off your credit card because your payment is late, and you complain because you sent a check in the mail 2 days prior.
@Dakarn No but see my point is that you have an insurer, you always pay on time, and if you simply happen to be 1 day late on your payment they are willing to go as far as Halting payment to your provider even during an emergency situation? This is obviously ridiculous, this is how they value your health?
@Slayerfan84 You pay them to provide a service. If they don't receive payment, they don't have to provide. Just like the water company. Or electricity. Cable...
@Dakarn Yeah so now you are comparing electricity to a human life, and by the way, the electric company does NOT shut down your power if you send in your payment 1 day late!
@Slayerfan84 They are running a business. They're not a fucking charity. If you don't give them money, what reason do they have to give a flying fuck about your stay in a hospital?
@Dakarn Exactly, they are running a Fucking business, and its all for profit, they could care less what you need or what happened to you of course but, what the fuck do you fucking think fucking happens if you land in an out of network Hospital? I suggest you find out ASAP, if you are a Private Health Insurance holder!
49% of cancer patients in Britain die due to lack of funding by the government for treatment. 81% of Americans survive due to being able to get treatment. Either through insurance or through the free cancer care hospitals. Which seems better to you?
Most people supporting this bill either want a free handout (which you still pay for it , idiots page 1413 of the bill), or just follow obama like a lemming over a cliff.
"and 99% of the people supporting the bill have no clue what's in it. They just follow the master with the whip."
Yep..and 99% of the Tea baggers haven't read it either.
Many just oppose it because Faux News and their Conservative idols said they should.Hilarious how when most of these morons are asked about their sources they either always quote Faux News, or some nut ball Conspiracy blog/website.Many of them admit they don't have their OWN reasons for being against it.
@richiefranklin76 the TEA PARTY has hundreds of thousands of members.did you interview 99% of em to DISCOVER that they did not read the health bill?on FOX NEWS=which network do you tune into?
"the TEA PARTY has hundreds of thousands of members."
Exactly...a couple hundred thousand uninformed loonies and paranoid seniors,Vs a Nation of hundreds of millions of normal citizens.It's quite laughable really
The Tea Party will soon fade into nothingness and mediocrity,when people finally realize they were duped by the Conservative fear mongers once again.
10yrs from now they will be too ashamed to admit they ever were part of the silly TEE HEE Party.
Well the Rethuglicans seem to have no problem leaning on their little Polls as 'evidence' for what America wants.
Polls that are easily manipulative and survey a pathetically small number of takers,next to the massive numbers of actual voters.That's true desperation there,if I've ever seen it.
And you say the Tea Party has 100's thousands of members like it's impressive or something..Lol.The U.s has over 300 Million people.Your TEE HEE Party are mere ants,and a national punchline.
@richiefranklin76 i'd like to see the 99% of the thousands and thousands of TEA PARTY MEMBERS you interviewed to get that number.. but you didnt interview anyone did you? you didn't do a thing except just being a leftist coward.. hows that hope and change working out for us? how about that 8% unemployment your messiah said would hold up if we passed the stimulus? how about the fact that he stands with illegal immigrants over his own country? hows that working out?... the polls are showing
The DOW markets risen 3000+ points since Obama took over.We were loosing 800,000 jobs a month in 2008 under Dubya.Now Obama has significantly lessened that,and has actually created some jobs.Unemployment halted at 10% and has now actually came down a bit.BTW I think you'll be surprised to know Dubya's unemployment rate went from like 5 to 7% in 2008 alone,before Obama ever stepped foot in Office
you'll never learn that from Faux News will you? ;P
@richiefranklin76 you WOULD relate economic recovery to the DOW.. do you even know how many stocks are in the DOW?? 30.. 30 STOCKS are in the DOW.. that means nothing.. and you dodged the point as well.. your messiah promised us that unemployment would stay at 8 percent with the stimulus.. ill ask you again how did that work out?? stop getting the talking points from media matters than try and debate it here.. with real americans, you dont have a chance
"how about that 8% unemployment your messiah said would hold up if we passed the stimulus?"
Hoo boy..yet another Rethuglican fanboy that never bothered to do any research of his own.Obama made that promise in like Early 2008,when unemployment was at 5%.
By the time he took office in Jan 2009 it was around 7.5%.You're an idiot if you actually expected him to still be able to halt it at 8%.Ironic that if Dubya had at least held it steady that year,Obama probably could have kept his promise.
"how about the fact that he stands with illegal immigrants over his own country?"
Ah..is that why he's also been trying to pass immigration reform in addition to his other bills?;P
Watch the news pal.Obama's just put a huge bill through that will give 600million dollars to securing our borders.So I guess you might say the jokes on you eh?
P.S If Immigrations so big a deal,why didn't your Rethuglican leaders do something about it during the 8yrs they were in office?
@richiefranklin76 spoken from someone who has no idea about the immigration bill.. the bill WILL grant amnesty to illegals so in a sense he is doing nothing to control the flow.. the only reason he is sending a mere 600 million in aid to the border which is like a penny to the spending machine obama is because his poll numbers are plunging
@dickr4chicks - There is fabulous myth going around that the British NHS "rations" care and blah blah. I can tell you that elementary research shows it to be far better to the American system. It's funny to hear Republicans bashing the NHS, when in reality all the problems they highlight, are problems within the private healthcare system.
By equal measure I could say most people who oppose the bill don't understand its contents and simply follow the right wing like lemmings over a cliff.
@nathanjamesbaker People also had similar arguments for the Nazi party and Socialist Russia. I truly feel sorry for the many folks that are being hoodwinked by the President and the Vast Liberal Media.
@pagec3011 What? A bill that makes it illegal for Insurance comapanies to refuse health-care cover based on pre-existing conditions? Yes, that really sounds like an arguement made by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Lenin...
Just like they oversaw the housing market, social security and bailouts. Why do u want to give them more money? Gov. was never put in place to take over every aspect of our lives. Healthcare industry was in need of reform (middle ground) if it works keep going if it doesn't take a step back and explore other means Not transfer of power. This is not about the little people, This is about attacking capitalism through higher taxation and redistribution programs and dollars in the wrong pockets
Love the tittle of this clip, It hits at the idea of calling any one that opposes health care crazy.
NOW which in more insane? 1. Letting Government take over heath care with a 3000 page bill that no one has ever read not even the president him self or 2. Questioning a bill that no one has read and exercising your freedom of speech?
The so called health care reform is about nothing other than more political payoffs to the health insurance industry. There's constant bribes being paid out to politicians for Obama's plan to be passed so you will all have to buy insurance. Name one other thing that you have to purchase by law, or face prosecution! Health insurance should be eliminated, other than major medical coverage and costs would be less than half.
@crystalsky84 thats not logical at all do u even no wat this video is about are u dumb jesus can be the one to save our asses after every time theres a change or when we make a mistake its our job to make it so putting this on jesus has no reason.
The 3000 page Health Care Mandate Trojan Horse BIll is indicative of a sheepish population led by paid experts, lobbyists, & politicians..
"Mandate" cloaked as "reform" directed at the confused, perpetrated by paid idols, endorsed by lonely flailing desperate fools,,,hopelessly swallowed up in a culture of rampant runaway entitlement mentality....
Anyone who trusts Obama and the dem's are so sick (in the brain) no healthcare reform or anything else will ever help you people. The only cure for stupidity is the Bible.
Can you hear the "Commie Zombies" being disrespectful??? THE GOP DON'T OWN MY GOD!!! "Decency, security, and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same ruses of conduct that are commands to the citizen." Olmstead v. U.S., 277 US 438 485; 48 S CT L ED 944( 1928).
sibelius is a liar ! specter is a liar ! we know those to be a covenient truth ! their insurance bill is going to bankrupt the healthcare industries and lead to the private option only. if you think thats a lie. they have said it ! jan shicowksi said it and obama did infact say that too ! this is HIGHLY unconstitutional they cannot do this ! but they will SO STOP THEM NOW !
California's Real Death Panels: Insurers Deny 21% of Claims
PacifiCare's Denials 40%, Cignas 33% in First Half of 2009
More than one of every 5 requests for medical claims for insured patients, even when recommended by a physician,
are rejected by California's largest private insurers, amounting to very real death panels in practice daily in the nation's? biggest state, according to data released Wednesday by the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing
Misleading statement. Some people submit claims for non-covered expenses (like aspirin or chiropractuc) and some people apply for insurance only after they already are very sick, lying on applications. Learn the facts
P.S. By the way a single payer public option itsn't even on the table anymore(thanks in part to idiots like you) so you can stop ranting about it now :)
Oh yeah...and guess what Dontteluseenme...You already pay for medicare!
I'd love to see you go tell some senior to "pay for it".
The only crazy thing is thinking that these peoples concerns do not warrant clarification.
Blind trust without question is foolish and irresponsible.
I read the first draft of this supposed health care bill and quite frankly I found it disturbing. It has been rewritten several times since then and the newer versions appear a bit less ridiculous.
But the FACT that the first draft was so horrific in what they proposed, will forever prevent me from embracing any part of it
o i plan on leaving cause stupid ass people like you are taking over, when the country is in ruins in 5 years because you didnt follow what the constitution says dont blame me dont ask where are the americans who have enough balls to fight. you are a sad little man no one agrees with you but you still argue, and know i didnt join the army because i wanted the government to be my employee, i guess it is a difference in mind set and my mind follows the founding fathers yours is comy or socialist
go ahead and leave the country you embarassment, u republican, u tea party idiot, u birther, you 10ther, you Glenn Beck 912er. You people dont know what movement to get into. every one of them is a bad idea. all you ever had was bad ideas-not one of them has ever worked. That's why your only agenda was foriegn. no solutions to problems here. you couldnt shrink the deficit when Bush over, but expanded it, spending 5 bil/mo & didnt complain about spending til Obama got into office
you are stupid an didnt get anything i just said , bush just happens to live in Texas, i gues you didnt know theyve threatened to leave the union, along with a few other states, if they did that where ever your stupid ass lives would become a shit hole along with the rest of america besides for a select few states who economies can support there populations, im not sure i understand your motive i think your a troll, you get paid to do this, cause no one likes what your saying
that's the problem with you republicans. you continue to be behind the times. Threatening to leave the union? What kind of talk is that? That sounds like some kind of far right wing tactic becuz last time it was considered was back in the 1800s. Go ahead and leave the union. Your party's going out anyways. You're considered a joke by the rest of the country that's educated. Go the way of the whigs. Leave the union. Where you going to go anyways?
This is all the republicans fault for voting Bush in when they had no reason to. If you had settled for Gore or Kerry, none of this would have happened and we wouldnt be in the mess we are today with a black President digging us out of your mess. The country will never forgive what republicans did to this country. You broke us financially and now you're paying for it sitting out 8 yrs of someone you cant stand as much as we couldnt stand bush
an again no one seems to care for what you have to say, an as far as obama an your "kind" because for me the last thing ill do is identify a politician as my kind, he will be worse than bush an someone like him will never be voted into office again, that is again if there is an America left after he is done with it, again im not a Republican both parties are fucked up im only for real responsible change, and thats some shit the people can believe in, bugger off your brainwashed
No one cares what YOU have to say! You're in the minority remember? You PREDICT a coming storm of problems in an attempt the scare and enrage people over Obama (a common republican tactic) "if there is an America left after he's done with it"
You're looking at the wrong President. We already had a President that wrecked the country with his republican, conservative policies. The guy you voted for remember? By the name of George W Bush
Frankly, i dont see the country heading down the road you hope it will go or that Rush hopes it will go or that Jim Demint hopes it will go.
I'm supporting my President because of the ACTION he's taken, something Republicans know nothing about. Since he's been in office, Obama has retarded the steep decline caused by republicans that even now is showing signs of turning around while YOUR President (Bush who the republicans were fanatical over) when he left office, the economy was in free fall
In short we ARE better off with Dems than republicans b/c we can make a direct comparison of the ACTION each party has/had taken while in power.
Republicans-no effort to come up with any health care plan or drive shrink the deficit. No attempt to create better jobs, shot down health care for children and wasted 900 billion in Iraq for nothing
Dems: significant improvement over last year's economy when Bush left, striving to create affordable ins which republican once again trying to halt
ok so again you just bring up crazy random shit, ill humor you whats have the DEMS done thats some much better than the repulicans, what what has obama done other than everything bush did just tripled it, or left it the same. plz tell me why its so much better enlighten me please and be specific plz
you republicans with your "concern" over deficits & fiscal responsiblilty.
According to you republicans, it's okay to waste money so long as it goes into Iraq. It's not okay to spend money here in the US for healthcare, creating government jobs for OUR citizens, or drive down the deficit.
Dems: Healthcare reform, deficit reduction (you're too stupid to understand this part), creating new job industries and infrastructure.
Republicans - more wars and invasions into foreign countries
Obama's still losing jobs... the last time unemployment was this high ther was also a democrat in the white house. Since he signed stimulus we've lost well over 3 million jobs... now they claim to have created or "saved" (whatever the hell that means) 650,000. I guess that's you guys' way of saying the glass is half full.
yes but he still beats the hell out of any republican out there who really have no concern for this country. They sure as hell have no concerns over spending (see Iraq invasion '03 for definition of wasteful spending)
When they balk over spending, it's their usual ruse to smear Obama and cause distrust. They just want to get back into power but their track record is filled with failure. They'll never make it back. They didnt have the first clue on how to handle a crisis like Katrina
You're absolutely right, it was stupid of me to post that without looking it up! But you could say Reagan "inherited" it from Carter, much the same way Obama claims to have "inherited" problems from Bush. Based on Reagan's eventual success at dramatically lowering the rate I could only hope Obama can mirror that success in bringin down unemployment... but I seriously doubt he will.
i dont think you even remember the argument you got in with me, your a goon for some news station or just a looney. Im in the military and i oppose the wars jackass thump me in with a group like the hawkish republicans and the last time i looked an trust me i fucking know obama has increased troop levels your so called peace candidate, nobel prize my ass, you are very naive if you think that any president here in the last 30 yrs was elected, u still didnt answer the question what have they done
show me where in article one section 8 of the constitution it says the federal government has the right to regulate health care, dont give me any bullshit about its just a piece of paper either i swore an oath to it , if you say its bullshit then my job is bullshit, what about obama sending 28000 more to afghan, the so called peace candidate, i fucking black you piss me off because your still a two parter idiot, wake the fuck up
article one section8 goes over the powers of the federal government an it states anything not covered in it is strictly a power of the state, health care is not in there so its the states job not the federal government, it doesnt say dierctly that it cant bc that clause would be fucking huge like are god damn tax code so the founders made it easy 4 ppl like you, 20 things the fed gov can do the rest is the states responsibility, period, end of the god damn story
in other words, it doesnt state it. But the govt does have the right to regulate unfair business practices and health care IS a business.
Only republicans like you with their heads on backwards would ever think of shooting down a govt program that brings down the cost of healthcare. You republicans are intering with our rights to affordable health care and that makes you an actual danger to the rest of us so I suggest you shut your damn trap and move yur miserable ass out to another country
im not a republican there a fucking reason they said that government can only do "these things" and everything else because it puts to much power into the hands of the federal government, your a stupid fuck im a solider in the us army i see how the government runs things first hand and you want them to run healthcare for you pull your head out of your fucking ass, government is wasteful an inefficient ask anyone you fucking works for them this country is going to collapse im sick ppl like you
Who do you think pays your salary? the government and your badmouthing it? If it wasnt for the goverment your ass would be out on the street so stop whining! You're the LAST person that sould be complaining.
"I'm a soldier in the US army and I see how the government runs things"
Not only are you a liar but a kingsized jackass republican prick!
first of all dumb ass you pay my salary so get your fucking facts straight moron. I took a pledge to protect you, i wouldnt be on the street id still be in college, im not a Republican like i said , and i find you the perfect example as to why this country is fucked up an lost someone from the inside is speaking out an you say what you did stupid child. an what i make could hardly be called a salary jackass. but im not in it for the money. you really are miss inform an brainwashed sad....
I didnt ask you to protect me. trust me, I am perfectly capable of handling myself against anyone who crosses my path as you may well know.
I think you enlisted because: A) you were either suckered into it or B) arent capable of doing anything else because of low level skills and needed work-ANY work
Yes, you are a government employee whether you care to admit it or not. They own you
I think your the idiot! The government cant run a health care system. Look at medicare, medicade and the va hospitals and you want them running your health care? WOW hows that cash for clunkers going for you or the cap and tax they want to pass orthe stimulas that was so important to save the unemployment? Your the fool! Government needs to stay the hell out of the health care system!
why not? It runs the military, air traffic controllers and postal service is great! It's much cheaper than FEDEX. Medicare and Medicaid are also extremely well run. I dont know anyone who wants to part with it. And it's SOOOOO affordable! I absolutely love it!! Like the gentleman said "keep your government hands off my medicare!!"
When we finally get this govt option underway, the people will wonder why we bothered with private insurance plans this long
Yah and after a few years you can be like Canada waiting YEARS for a doctor or even YEARS for tests and operations! We dont need socialized health care. Look at the VA's they SUCK and medicare is a joke thats why its BROKE now! How is that good? Post office good. Hahahahaha your funny.
No, YOU'RE funny! Thinking anyone would believe the lies you learned from Glenn Beck "waiting years for a Doctor in Canada"
I know better than to listen to a republican (please don't deny that you are a republican or that you voted for Bush)
Anyhow, your scare tactics might work if only our system wasnt in such bad shape. The for-profit model for health care doesnt work which is why reform is in the works to change it. Our government is the pill that will FORCE the greedy corp to be honest
here you are complaining about socialized medicine as if having private insurance was such a great thing to have. For one thing, it's expensive as hell. and even worse, they have their specialists dig up dirt on you in order to deny paying for your treament as they did recently with an underweight toddler of all people! Imagine, digging up dirt to find a pre existing condition on a toddler? Can you imagine all the other people they do this with on a daily business?
well if you really think a GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAM WONT LIMIT YOUR CARE YOU ARE THE IDIOT! YOU ARE JUST AS STUPID AS THE FOOLS ON THE HILL! WATCH IN 2010 AS WE VOTE OUT ALL THE FOOLS LIKE YOU FROM OFFICE!!! YOU WANT A GOVERNMENT FREE RUN PROGRAM DAMN IT YOU PAY FOR IT AND LEAVE MY HARD EARNED MONEY THE HELL ALONE! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND DONT LISTEN TO WELL SO DONT COMMENT NO MORE TO ME! YOUR A WAISTE OF TIME LIKE OBAMA WITH ALL HIS BS!!!
"if you really think a GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAM WONT LIMIT YOUR CARE YOU ARE THE IDIOT!"
Lol another witty comeback from a Conservative.
I wonder if this chap has carefully considered the pros and cons of systems around the world to come up with that brilliand insight. I'm guessing probably not :)
"LEAVE MY HARD EARNED MONEY THE HELL ALONE!"
Ah yes...Obamas henchmen are coming for you! There going to steal your money and pay for a sick kids operation...Bastard Guys!
You ever try to find a doctor when your on medicade? I have watched and tried to help a few people find a dentist and an eye care giver with no luck. Hmmm that really dont seem like a great system to me when over 3/4th the doctors dont take Medicade. Thats a joke too man get real here now.
yes I have and have never experienced ANY of the problems that you mentioned and the process is handled smoothly; much better than when I had private insurance. I really got dicked around by them. The greedy private insurers liked getting their monthly checks but when it came time for them to make the payouts to treat my illness, they found the damndest excuses to weasle their way out of paying. Private insurers even found a way to deny coverage for treating an underweight toddler.
im in the intel field dumbass, yep not qaulified anything other than the army..alot people join for alot of reason, and i dont care if you asked anyone to protect you, its the job of the armed services...."service" to protect the american people from all enemies foreign or DOMESTIC...and above all unhold the constitution...not the government in power. your lame an pretty uninformed about the army
the lying tea bagger who's trying to protect the profits of an industry that's ripping us off, says he wants to protect me but tells me he's in the intell department. digging a deeper hole with more lies.
You're in intel and dont know who pays your salary then badmouthing your own employer. aire your grievances with the govt, let them know how you feel-that the US Gov can't run an organization right and that it's incompetent and too expensive
u are simple minded If you think that every single aspect of this country is controlled they're not ripping us of u get what you pay for, that why u have a 600% more of a chance of living from all forms of cancer here than u do any where else, for a simpleton like u medicare is government run an is about to go bankrupt, an for god sake u fuckin retard iam not an employee of the government, they dont pay my salary tax payer money does where do u think they get it out of thin air o wait they do
You get all your stats from FOX-news for retards. All cancer treatment is standard in advanced countries. You only get two types - chemo and radiation but you're telling me the survival rate in US is 600% higher? Explain that
You just pulled that figure out of your ass you stupid tea fagger.
You won't admit the gov is your employer, telling me sends you funds directly into your account. Get out of here moron!
now i know for sure that you have no clue what your talking about, your labeling the shit out of me an i have no clue where got those or what some of them are, obama has made bushes spending look like childs play, i dont have a party im a politcal atheist, i dont like stupid people like you who are fucking brain washed by the government magical power to some how make things all better like your fucking vote counts or somthing..wake the hell, and again what the fuck are you talkin about
o yeah and ill be gald to leave this place if its full of people like you, maybe ill move to the Republic of Texas when that comes around...ive been complaining since before bush got into office too, my county was the one in fl who had all the voter fraud.
We told you not to vote for Bush and you went ahead and did it anyways. Now look what happened. so go ahead and move out to TX if it makes you fell better being closer to papa bush and junior the retard, trying to reienvent himself and get back into the public's graces (as if anyone would fall for his act a second time)
Not me tho. I was never for a moment thrown off by the little cunt anymore than I would be by any republican.
i dont think u listened earlier u black messiahs spending makes bush look conservative an that from his own budget estimates i think your racist, what does he being black have to do with it. when his term is over and he doesnt get re-elected an everyone sees the damage this phony has caused then you'll being crying alone in a room to yourself,if there is even an america left by the time he is done your just another american stuck in the two party politcal scene throwing tomatoes at the otherside
you know why you got a black messiah today? becuz you voted for Bush twice. It's YOUR fault! The republicans ruined everything and now they're paying for thier sins against the country and the world. Paying becuz they elected a Prez that ignored inteeligence that the terrorists were coming in jet liners and then he did nothing about it? WHere is the liller today? I bet he's with Bush's friends, the Bin Ladens. You republicans are in the toilet. the public completely lost faith in the party
last time i checked obama increased the deficit, hasnt passed healthcare reform and wont because its unconstitutional and will die in the senate or in court, you show me where obama has created more than a few thousands jobs i think the grand total has been about 40000, jobless claims run from about 500000 to 900000 every Qtr so what the fuck has he done be specific, your ranting about nothing except delusions of his greatness, im sorry he is not the messiah just a confused blackman
That's becuz your party keeps bitching like you "I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING TOO MUCH"
Remember? You say it 10 times a day. so when you say Obama hasnt passed health care reform just remember that you were never for it. Nowhere does it say expanding health care is unconstitutional. That's insane and you cant possibly believe that anyone would believe you. It would have ALREADY been shot down, died a quick death if that were the case.
im telling you right now and i know im right healthcare reform as far as the federal government is concern is unconstitutional, your saying its your right that you receive a service of someone else, that someone else is a person what if they say fuck you i dont want to give you your surgery 4 fucking pennies ill just stop doing surgeries, look around jackass doctors are already talking about it you do not have the right to someone else servicing you nor does the gov have the right to make some1
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! You loud talkers fail to realize that your precious capitalism has grown into a man-eating beast. The companies who have illegally and immorally acquired an unnecessary amount of wealth should be criminalized, tried in court and dissolved.
1. Campaign Finance Reform... no more bribing. It's time for politicians to remember who they work for.
2. Re-distribution of ill-gotten funds... We want our money back. The scales are tipping.
the only reason it has happen is because the limitation in place against it were systematically taken away by the same people you are looting the treasury, and to the people who think government should take care of every little fucking thing including wiping there asses like the guy above me theyre the main reason this country is going to implode, the governemtn couldnt even handle cash for clinkers but they want to handle health care, what a joke, its the states job
No they're slaves to the Fox News Channel that hang on the words of Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. Left is wrong, right is wrong, get ALL the facts and decide for urself
thankyou, ive worked my ass off defending the damn country the lest people could do for soldiers is lose some fucking weight and to be honest with you most of the soldiers are pissed because healthcare more fucking important than us fighting and dieing, why the fuck are we even in Afghanistan, cause nobody gives a shit
To republicans, the solution to all health problems is "drop some weight". No wonder your party never had a domestic agenda-you're too simplistic to think of one that works. complaining about making healthcare affordable for Americans? like Bush, you dont care if people cant afford treatement and would prefer to let them die then condemn them when they complain. that's why your party's in the toilet and Obama is in power; becuz were sick of your kind having a say how the country should be run.
As we can see by some of the responses here, Marxism is very attractive to some people. They won't go and live in a Marxist country, but want the US to become one. Make no mistake about the President's love affair with Marxist ideology. His parents were Marxists, he admired Marxists in his past and has written about it. We are to enter into a time when ALL have virtually NOTHING. True Patriots will resist, While closet socialists/Marxists are already to bend over and prepared to receive!
You should do your home work! Obama's Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, John Holdren, penned a 1977 book that approved of and recommended compulsory sterilization and even abortion in some cases, as part of a government population control regime. The book was titled "ECOSCIENCE and was 1000 pages long. Holdren refers approvingly, for example, to Indira Gandhi's government for its then-recent attempt at a compulsory sterilization program!
I think you lost a lib. he put his tail between his legs and went slinking off. But, we need to do more than defeat the cretins in debate here on Youtube. I have been to a couple of tax protest demonstrations. I have phoned and emailed and faxed but still we are drifting towards a totalitarian government.
remember, comrade obama's hand-picked science czar wrote a book in 1977 advocating FORCED sterilization and MANDATORY abortions. the book is 1000 pages long(!), and is titled ECOSCIENCE! Don't forget to chec k this out, now...OK???
really some great comments. Everyone has a good point. That's what we're all about. When the state told us we had to close down our local school and go somewhere else, we were all yelling and *@#. People do what they have 2. I don't want my insurance messed with. Took me 30 yr to get it. At the same time, ppl need to be cared for. In our state(IL) we have several resources.
The SOCIALISTS are coming, the SOCIALISTS are coming.
Stay bogged down in the minutiae of the moment, like in this video, or come to your senses.
The Obama administration is deliberately systematically destroying the American economy. Why? Because once enough people are on welfare, dependent on government for their paycheck (12 million now on extended unemployment benefits) food, energy, health care , education.
OMG We are socialized! For example, I drove here on a PUBLIC road. Why aren't there private roads, once for each individual person? And Private armies? Or Private Post Offices? OMG The sky is falling the world is ending Beck was right! I'm scared so scared!
You're no Paul Revere. Revere had balls. You're just an anonymous coward on the internet.
There are private roads. There are private armies. There are private post offices. Where you been?
You made a comment like that just to call me a coward? Nothing cowardly about fighting against socialism . I did it in the military, in the Navy, in the Korean War. We did it in Vietnam. We did it in Iraq, and we are doing it in Afghanistan.
Pigmy brained naked wombats are not cute. Maybe if you are 10, they look cute.
"There are private roads. There are private armies. There are private post offices. Where you been?"
I think wombats point was there are some things that are and always will be public.
As you MUST know you don't personally hire blackwater to defend your country
Now we can debate about the korean war but iraq and afghanistan! That was just NOT about socialism. The cold war is over(thx in part 2 you!), so i don't think korean\cuban shock troops are showing up in your back yard anytime soon.
This comment below by Heisenberg was influenced by years of anti soviet propaganda. Whenever he or she hears the word socialized whatever its attached 2 is bad.
Note the insane lack of specifics.....Obama is DELIBERATLEY....!.....DESTROYING the economy in a plot 2 make ppl depedant on welfare. That's just conspiracy...hell it doesn't even make sense! Yes..SOME elements of 3 bills are socialist IN NATURE. oh i wonder how one makes the jump from that 2 complete socialist takeover = propaganda.
Yeah, you're just like Paul Revere. Only he was out doing something, and you are pathetically sitting on your computer spewing out ill-informed nonsense........The similarities are uncanny.....
I was just thinking about that Nazi eugnics poster with a cripple and a doctor on it. It talked about how the cripple cost Germans 600000 Deutchmarks in his life time and said, That's your money too commrade.
When Hitler took over and everyone said he would have death panels for the weak and for Jews they all said they were crazy and stupid too.
Lets just hope that everone will listen this time before another 10million go to the ovens.
Wow another nazi quote in bad taste. How do you make the jump from a end of life cost debate to millions in ovens.
Let me explain... This is a debate about granny's who ARE dying. Countrys around the world have come to the conclusion that they spend a massive portion of there health budget on the last few months of life. The debate is could some of that money be better spent on kids with cancer and young mothers.Very touchy subject.
Obama now knows ppl like you are not ready for that chat. :)
Did you know that a Democrat senator actually said that it would be cheaper to let the elderly and disabled die? think about it. they aren't productive and heavens! They may be espousing politically incorrect beliefs as well! So what's to stop the state from saving money by killing granny?
KarpKomet-- I hate it when I hit the wroung thumb sign. You are right, the ppl are not ready or just too stupid to understand, and the Insurance Industry is banking on that big time.
These people have coverage and are pissed off. People who don't have coverage aren't saying anything. What it wrong with that picture. If you still think a man with a white robe going to rise from the dead and kill off everyone you don't like then you were probably at one of these town hall meetings. If you have common sense and hope you probably weren't. Lets change that around and start taking over this country that is supposed to work for us. Everyone deserves to be healthy. Start with you.
It is kind of amazing some "people" think health costs are like buying a car or any other commercial proposition (eg: all the insurance co-sponsored posts on Youtube by varying "people"). You can plan to buy a car or a house: it's your own responsibility and your money allocation--but you can't plan a medical affliction. Not the same. I simply note one anti-health plan person on Ytube had her two fave videos as a) a revolver shooting into a tank, and b) a clip of Milton F'man on "Greed". True!!
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No legal rights now, if you give them even more power what will the insurance companies do?
They are trying to make you fly to Mexico for heart surgery. Maybe next they will FORCE you on a diet and round you up at 05.00 to make you work out.
I don't understand profit from suffering, money doesn't equate good health care. If the 'stock holders' of the health insurances eg Foreign countries want even more for their 'investment', Americans get ready to pay even more, Asia runs you more now
In places, like the whole of Florida, you can't sue if you over 21 and they kill your momma. In the whole of California, you can only sue the doctor, if he fucks you, I mean literally, if he rapes you, you can sue him. I wanted to sue my health insurance, could not get a lawyer to take me on, I tried 20.
Hospitals are very well protected, no one dares challenge them in a court, Kaiser Permanent has a term in your insurance ARBITRATION, take out their health insurance and you can't sue them
in places THE US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTY, SHIT YOU SEEN THE SOUTH?
No other nation has this shitty expensive heathcare and America is not your deserted tropical Island, there are millons of other people here. I hope you don't universal healthcare, just everyone else.
Why did you LOSE the election? Was it a shock?? Did you found yourself in a minority and few people agree with you, think like you, or vote like you.
@farblonjet
You sound like a fucking moron.
pmuaddib12 1 month ago
Watching americans argue about healthcare is really funny!!!! We don't get to do too much of that over in the UK because one and all are taken care off with the NHS (not a perfect system, but good one)!!
Keep it up, I haven't laughed so much for ages!!
wtf2011ization 5 months ago
Horrible intro title for the vid, more like Real People React to BULLSHIT talks from where shit comes from, politicans mouths!!!!
shinyshiny82 6 months ago
National Healthcare is the best thing to happen to this country since FDR was president everyone shut up once all this political bullshit gets through you will see its beauties
foxisajoke 8 months ago
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Are we taliking State or Federal? They are two different things.Dam, get your stories straight. It seems to me you are losing on all grounds.
roger6060 8 months ago
The Title is way off, it's the Gov't that's full of crazies, unless you like big Gov't?
roger6060 8 months ago
@roger6060
Yeah ... we should entirely disband the gummint and revert to a feudal society. And while we're at it, we could abolish all those pointy-headed intellectual scientists with their "theories" about evolution and global warming and gravity.
Yeah ... 1347 A.D. was the best time. A good ol'-fashioned faith-based society with no big gummint.
wfmkk 8 months ago 3
@wfmkk Charity comes from the heart not the Gov't, and all these entitlement programs are Bankrupting our nations. One last word which you may not understand"Constitution"
roger6060 8 months ago
@roger6060
"Charity comes from the heart"
Awww ... and corporations are run by Care Bears too.
"all these entitlement programs"
Ever heard of payroll taxes? Do you even pay taxes? Social Security and Medicare Part A are both SELF-SUPPORTING (no general tax revenue).
The country is broke due to (A) huge tax cuts for the rich and (B) huge expenditures on the military adventures started by Shrub -- the puppet from Crawford, Texas.
Here's your homework question: What is the Social Contract?
wfmkk 8 months ago 2
A better explanation ...
The country is broke because corrupt politicians -- both Republicans and Democrats -- allowed the U.S. Treasury to be systematically LOOTED by the wealthiest segments of society (primarily banks and military contractors).
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The Great American Bubble Machine
rollingstone. com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405
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Why Isn't Wall Street in Jail?
rollingstone. com/politics/news/why-isnt-wall-street-in-jail-20110216
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@wfmkk Tax cuts to the rich? Are you for real? Right out of the Obama Handbook. the rich pay most of the taxes in this country and the rich provide most of the jobs. When it comes to taxes, I'm self-employed making over $250,000.00, which Obama calls us the so called Rich! When I struggle to meet payroll, try not to lay people off, and yet people like you want more. So if you agree with payroll taxes then you agree that Corp should not pay taxes? Which is it?
roger6060 8 months ago
@wfmkk The "social contract" is an intellectual device intended to explain the appropriate relationship between individuals and their governments
roger6060 8 months ago
@wfmkk I’m sorry where can I find social contract in the Constitution?
roger6060 8 months ago
@roger6060
"an intellectual device"
Not exactly. The Constitution **is** the social contract. And despite what libertoon ideology would have you believe, a social contract is necessarily a COMPROMISE between individual rights and the public interest.
Read and learn:
google. com/search?q=social+contract+constitution
wfmkk 8 months ago 2
@wfmkk I don't want nor do I take anything from the Gov't that's not afforded to me in the Constitution, and if you want your social contract, then start voting for others that want it too, but keep me out.
One thing I have found out being self-employed, is that Gov't takes and gives nothing in return, or just makes a complete mess of things.
roger6060 8 months ago
@roger6060
"government just makes a complete mess of things"
You obviously don't use public libraries, and you have your own private fire department, your own private police protection, your own private roads, your own private meat inspectors, your own private sewage system, and your own private water works.
- face palm -
wfmkk 8 months ago 5
@wfmkk nobody uses public libraries anymore smarty pants, face palm, im sure they are very easy to run. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. keep the power divided. you didn't mention the war on drugs, department of education, or any other of the giant failures. washington is like pro-wrestling. left wing and right wing belong to same eagle. bush was bad cop, obama is good cop. so do you believe that the 2 trillion dollars was really "missing". pull head out of arse please
johnnyappleseedism 6 months ago
@johnnyappleseedism
"nobody uses public libraries anymore"
Wow ... nice display of ignorance there, Beavis.
ala. org/ala/research/librarystats /2011harrispoll.pdf
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ala. org/ala/professionalresources /libfactsheets/alalibrary factsheet06.cfm
The University of Pennsylvania found that "homes located within a quarter-mile of a branch library were worth an average of $9,630 more than homes outside that radius."
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johnnyappleseedism 6 months ago
@johnnyappleseedism
If you're going to argue against the Harris poll, then you'll need to offer some actual credible evidence that supports your statement. Otherwise, you look like a wing nut.
"know one is in there"
LOL ... Are you there to READ?
"When is the last time you have been in one?"
Yesterday.
"im sure i could come up with stats."
I'm sure you could NOT, because you're obviously full of shit.
wfmkk 6 months ago 2
the loudest mouths are the ones with the best coverage now provided to them-everyone else can go suck mud
pennm51 9 months ago
Lies! See how our rights and our wills were just trampled on?....to the start of applauds.
jam4987u987 9 months ago
Hmmmm Patriot Act was passed...silence. Invading Iraq when they posed no threat to us...silence. TARP...SIlence. Wall Street bailouts...silence. But giving everyone in America a chance have health care, and if you like your current PRIVATE health care you can keep it, causes people to act like this? The biggest threat to gov. is OUR generation they love it we don't vote cause things stay the same. 18-29 yr olds let's shock them with our voter turn out this year. This is OUR future too!
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I wonder if Dick Cheney would have gotten all of his heart surgeries if he was a private citizen? With his pre-existing condition he would have been DENIED! But nope my tax dollars pay for HIS health care and ALL the health care for ALL the politicians, but we the people suffer while they sit and laugh at us. We are the victims of greed. Think about that the next time you get a huge bill from your ins. company. Stop the Republicans from repealing the new health care bill.
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COAKD1 1 year ago
Here in Israel we have universal healthcare. I love it!
LLORT3 1 year ago
Yeah my premium went UP! What's funny is that I went to the doctor once, True story by the way, and I remember that I had sent in my insurance payment 2 days before it was due. Of course the mail didn't deliver it till like 4 days later but during those 2 days I went to the clinic and I was DENIED care and told I had to pay for the DR visit because the clinic said that the insurance company didn't receive the payment! True story and I challenge you idiots anyday who try to call me a liar!!!
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
@Slayerfan84
We don't have that problem in Israel. Insurance companies are outlawed.
LLORT3 1 year ago
@Slayerfan84 It wouldn't have happened if you paid it ON TIME! It isn't the mail carrier's fault you waited until the last second to send in your payment. That's like complaining that the credit company shuts off your credit card because your payment is late, and you complain because you sent a check in the mail 2 days prior.
Dakarn 1 year ago
@Dakarn No but see my point is that you have an insurer, you always pay on time, and if you simply happen to be 1 day late on your payment they are willing to go as far as Halting payment to your provider even during an emergency situation? This is obviously ridiculous, this is how they value your health?
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
@Slayerfan84 You pay them to provide a service. If they don't receive payment, they don't have to provide. Just like the water company. Or electricity. Cable...
Dakarn 1 year ago
@Dakarn Yeah so now you are comparing electricity to a human life, and by the way, the electric company does NOT shut down your power if you send in your payment 1 day late!
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
@Slayerfan84 They are running a business. They're not a fucking charity. If you don't give them money, what reason do they have to give a flying fuck about your stay in a hospital?
Dakarn 1 year ago
@Dakarn Exactly, they are running a Fucking business, and its all for profit, they could care less what you need or what happened to you of course but, what the fuck do you fucking think fucking happens if you land in an out of network Hospital? I suggest you find out ASAP, if you are a Private Health Insurance holder!
Slayerfan84 1 year ago
@Slayerfan84 Neither does your healthcare provider. There's always a Thirty-Day grace period.
roger6060 8 months ago
What's with the Bible?
micfishevyt 1 year ago
lol
dylanskriloff 1 year ago
Those crazies are cool !!! Fuck Politicians!!!
Quiksilver209 1 year ago
@Quiksilver209 Those crazies fought communisim in viet nam and WON!
MrKodiak1000 1 year ago
those stupid idiots. free thinking is evil!
michaelwuzthere 1 year ago
It's such a shame that people are so misinformed.
49% of cancer patients in Britain die due to lack of funding by the government for treatment. 81% of Americans survive due to being able to get treatment. Either through insurance or through the free cancer care hospitals. Which seems better to you?
Most people supporting this bill either want a free handout (which you still pay for it , idiots page 1413 of the bill), or just follow obama like a lemming over a cliff.
dickr4chicks 1 year ago
@dickr4chicks
and 99% of the people supporting the bill have no clue what's in it. They just follow the master with the whip.
dickr4chicks 1 year ago
"and 99% of the people supporting the bill have no clue what's in it. They just follow the master with the whip."
Yep..and 99% of the Tea baggers haven't read it either.
Many just oppose it because Faux News and their Conservative idols said they should.Hilarious how when most of these morons are asked about their sources they either always quote Faux News, or some nut ball Conspiracy blog/website.Many of them admit they don't have their OWN reasons for being against it.
richiefranklin76 1 year ago
@richiefranklin76 the TEA PARTY has hundreds of thousands of members.did you interview 99% of em to DISCOVER that they did not read the health bill?on FOX NEWS=which network do you tune into?
LEWFROST2 1 year ago
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"the TEA PARTY has hundreds of thousands of members."
Exactly...a couple hundred thousand uninformed loonies and paranoid seniors,Vs a Nation of hundreds of millions of normal citizens.It's quite laughable really
The Tea Party will soon fade into nothingness and mediocrity,when people finally realize they were duped by the Conservative fear mongers once again.
10yrs from now they will be too ashamed to admit they ever were part of the silly TEE HEE Party.
richiefranklin76 1 year ago
Well the Rethuglicans seem to have no problem leaning on their little Polls as 'evidence' for what America wants.
Polls that are easily manipulative and survey a pathetically small number of takers,next to the massive numbers of actual voters.That's true desperation there,if I've ever seen it.
And you say the Tea Party has 100's thousands of members like it's impressive or something..Lol.The U.s has over 300 Million people.Your TEE HEE Party are mere ants,and a national punchline.
richiefranklin76 1 year ago
@richiefranklin76 i'd like to see the 99% of the thousands and thousands of TEA PARTY MEMBERS you interviewed to get that number.. but you didnt interview anyone did you? you didn't do a thing except just being a leftist coward.. hows that hope and change working out for us? how about that 8% unemployment your messiah said would hold up if we passed the stimulus? how about the fact that he stands with illegal immigrants over his own country? hows that working out?... the polls are showing
ofcccaddy2004 1 year ago
"hows that hope and change working out for us?"
The DOW markets risen 3000+ points since Obama took over.We were loosing 800,000 jobs a month in 2008 under Dubya.Now Obama has significantly lessened that,and has actually created some jobs.Unemployment halted at 10% and has now actually came down a bit.BTW I think you'll be surprised to know Dubya's unemployment rate went from like 5 to 7% in 2008 alone,before Obama ever stepped foot in Office
you'll never learn that from Faux News will you? ;P
richiefranklin76 1 year ago
@richiefranklin76 you WOULD relate economic recovery to the DOW.. do you even know how many stocks are in the DOW?? 30.. 30 STOCKS are in the DOW.. that means nothing.. and you dodged the point as well.. your messiah promised us that unemployment would stay at 8 percent with the stimulus.. ill ask you again how did that work out?? stop getting the talking points from media matters than try and debate it here.. with real americans, you dont have a chance
ofcccaddy2004 1 year ago
"how about that 8% unemployment your messiah said would hold up if we passed the stimulus?"
Hoo boy..yet another Rethuglican fanboy that never bothered to do any research of his own.Obama made that promise in like Early 2008,when unemployment was at 5%.
By the time he took office in Jan 2009 it was around 7.5%.You're an idiot if you actually expected him to still be able to halt it at 8%.Ironic that if Dubya had at least held it steady that year,Obama probably could have kept his promise.
richiefranklin76 1 year ago
"how about the fact that he stands with illegal immigrants over his own country?"
Ah..is that why he's also been trying to pass immigration reform in addition to his other bills?;P
Watch the news pal.Obama's just put a huge bill through that will give 600million dollars to securing our borders.So I guess you might say the jokes on you eh?
P.S If Immigrations so big a deal,why didn't your Rethuglican leaders do something about it during the 8yrs they were in office?
richiefranklin76 1 year ago
@richiefranklin76 spoken from someone who has no idea about the immigration bill.. the bill WILL grant amnesty to illegals so in a sense he is doing nothing to control the flow.. the only reason he is sending a mere 600 million in aid to the border which is like a penny to the spending machine obama is because his poll numbers are plunging
ofcccaddy2004 1 year ago
@dickr4chicks
With a name like that... we can rate your intellectual level as that of a thirteen year old so your hardly qualified to speak on healthcare reform.
pmccullo123 9 months ago 2
@dickr4chicks - There is fabulous myth going around that the British NHS "rations" care and blah blah. I can tell you that elementary research shows it to be far better to the American system. It's funny to hear Republicans bashing the NHS, when in reality all the problems they highlight, are problems within the private healthcare system.
By equal measure I could say most people who oppose the bill don't understand its contents and simply follow the right wing like lemmings over a cliff.
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@nathanjamesbaker People also had similar arguments for the Nazi party and Socialist Russia. I truly feel sorry for the many folks that are being hoodwinked by the President and the Vast Liberal Media.
pagec3011 1 year ago
@pagec3011 What? A bill that makes it illegal for Insurance comapanies to refuse health-care cover based on pre-existing conditions? Yes, that really sounds like an arguement made by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Lenin...
FacnyCatFighter 1 year ago
Interrupting a speech like that is rude. They aren't crazy, just uncivilized.
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Just like they oversaw the housing market, social security and bailouts. Why do u want to give them more money? Gov. was never put in place to take over every aspect of our lives. Healthcare industry was in need of reform (middle ground) if it works keep going if it doesn't take a step back and explore other means Not transfer of power. This is not about the little people, This is about attacking capitalism through higher taxation and redistribution programs and dollars in the wrong pockets
gmail123forever 1 year ago
@nathanjamesbaker
OH yeah.
And both programs are doing SOOOO welll, both broke.
Who's being hoodwinked?
sadlowss 1 year ago
The title of these videos are so incredibly biased and fake- the content of the video is important, but the title is very misrepresenting.
illmagnified 1 year ago
Love the tittle of this clip, It hits at the idea of calling any one that opposes health care crazy.
NOW which in more insane? 1. Letting Government take over heath care with a 3000 page bill that no one has ever read not even the president him self or 2. Questioning a bill that no one has read and exercising your freedom of speech?
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faberditt 1 year ago
The so called health care reform is about nothing other than more political payoffs to the health insurance industry. There's constant bribes being paid out to politicians for Obama's plan to be passed so you will all have to buy insurance. Name one other thing that you have to purchase by law, or face prosecution! Health insurance should be eliminated, other than major medical coverage and costs would be less than half.
roadfixr 1 year ago
@crystalsky84 thats not logical at all do u even no wat this video is about are u dumb jesus can be the one to save our asses after every time theres a change or when we make a mistake its our job to make it so putting this on jesus has no reason.
disc0disc0g00dg00d 1 year ago
Sure... who's crazy now?
DanieljDixon 2 years ago
The 3000 page Health Care Mandate Trojan Horse BIll is indicative of a sheepish population led by paid experts, lobbyists, & politicians..
"Mandate" cloaked as "reform" directed at the confused, perpetrated by paid idols, endorsed by lonely flailing desperate fools,,,hopelessly swallowed up in a culture of rampant runaway entitlement mentality....
hadenufnow 2 years ago
Kill the 3000 page Health Care Mandate Trojan Horse Bill...
Pork em hard..
Vote em out..
Nobody wants it...
hadenufnow 2 years ago
People are afraid of change.
jada7770 2 years ago
Anyone who trusts Obama and the dem's are so sick (in the brain) no healthcare reform or anything else will ever help you people. The only cure for stupidity is the Bible.
crystalsky84 2 years ago
Wow. That is a pretty unbelievable statement. You realize Jesus tells us to love others, do you not?
xLordOfTheFliesx 2 years ago
The only things unconstitutional are you fat, grey, obese fat pigs
GET ON A DIET
britmantx 2 years ago
Can you hear the "Commie Zombies" being disrespectful??? THE GOP DON'T OWN MY GOD!!! "Decency, security, and liberty alike demand that government officials shall be subjected to the same ruses of conduct that are commands to the citizen." Olmstead v. U.S., 277 US 438 485; 48 S CT L ED 944( 1928).
TuskegeeNorth 2 years ago
sibelius is a liar ! specter is a liar ! we know those to be a covenient truth ! their insurance bill is going to bankrupt the healthcare industries and lead to the private option only. if you think thats a lie. they have said it ! jan shicowksi said it and obama did infact say that too ! this is HIGHLY unconstitutional they cannot do this ! but they will SO STOP THEM NOW !
coobert15 2 years ago
California's Real Death Panels: Insurers Deny 21% of Claims
PacifiCare's Denials 40%, Cignas 33% in First Half of 2009
More than one of every 5 requests for medical claims for insured patients, even when recommended by a physician,
are rejected by California's largest private insurers, amounting to very real death panels in practice daily in the nation's? biggest state, according to data released Wednesday by the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing
Committee.
britmantx 2 years ago 10
The CNA is just another communist union group of idiots who want Obama's plan to work so they can replace doctors. Give me a break.
zalzankavol2 2 years ago
Citation needed
Joelsef2898 2 years ago
Misleading statement. Some people submit claims for non-covered expenses (like aspirin or chiropractuc) and some people apply for insurance only after they already are very sick, lying on applications. Learn the facts
forwardmover 2 years ago
Nationwide the biggest denier of claims according to the AMA is Medicare at 6.85%.
10072018 2 years ago
How dare people have religious beliefs in America!
10072018 2 years ago
P.S. By the way a single payer public option itsn't even on the table anymore(thanks in part to idiots like you) so you can stop ranting about it now :)
Oh yeah...and guess what Dontteluseenme...You already pay for medicare!
I'd love to see you go tell some senior to "pay for it".
KarpKomet 2 years ago
The only crazy thing is thinking that these peoples concerns do not warrant clarification.
Blind trust without question is foolish and irresponsible.
I read the first draft of this supposed health care bill and quite frankly I found it disturbing. It has been rewritten several times since then and the newer versions appear a bit less ridiculous.
But the FACT that the first draft was so horrific in what they proposed, will forever prevent me from embracing any part of it
Read the first one
glenisah 2 years ago 2
Harry Truman fought for national health care, he also fought the communists.
MultiSnapDragon 2 years ago
tea party still upset over a black man taking the election back from the harmful and still dangerous republicans.
Thankfully their numbers are shrinking by the day
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
Actually they are growing and it is not about racism. Grow up.
donpengin 2 years ago 3
Dont u believe it.
half the tea party members are made up of gullible, senile who show up wearing their depends diapers. the younger members are all former clansmen.
They don't have long tho. These loonies are embarassing their own party that set hem up to begin with so the media now shuns them
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
o i plan on leaving cause stupid ass people like you are taking over, when the country is in ruins in 5 years because you didnt follow what the constitution says dont blame me dont ask where are the americans who have enough balls to fight. you are a sad little man no one agrees with you but you still argue, and know i didnt join the army because i wanted the government to be my employee, i guess it is a difference in mind set and my mind follows the founding fathers yours is comy or socialist
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
go ahead and leave the country you embarassment, u republican, u tea party idiot, u birther, you 10ther, you Glenn Beck 912er. You people dont know what movement to get into. every one of them is a bad idea. all you ever had was bad ideas-not one of them has ever worked. That's why your only agenda was foriegn. no solutions to problems here. you couldnt shrink the deficit when Bush over, but expanded it, spending 5 bil/mo & didnt complain about spending til Obama got into office
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
you are stupid an didnt get anything i just said , bush just happens to live in Texas, i gues you didnt know theyve threatened to leave the union, along with a few other states, if they did that where ever your stupid ass lives would become a shit hole along with the rest of america besides for a select few states who economies can support there populations, im not sure i understand your motive i think your a troll, you get paid to do this, cause no one likes what your saying
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
that's the problem with you republicans. you continue to be behind the times. Threatening to leave the union? What kind of talk is that? That sounds like some kind of far right wing tactic becuz last time it was considered was back in the 1800s. Go ahead and leave the union. Your party's going out anyways. You're considered a joke by the rest of the country that's educated. Go the way of the whigs. Leave the union. Where you going to go anyways?
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
I bet anything you voted for Bush - both times.
This is all the republicans fault for voting Bush in when they had no reason to. If you had settled for Gore or Kerry, none of this would have happened and we wouldnt be in the mess we are today with a black President digging us out of your mess. The country will never forgive what republicans did to this country. You broke us financially and now you're paying for it sitting out 8 yrs of someone you cant stand as much as we couldnt stand bush
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
an again no one seems to care for what you have to say, an as far as obama an your "kind" because for me the last thing ill do is identify a politician as my kind, he will be worse than bush an someone like him will never be voted into office again, that is again if there is an America left after he is done with it, again im not a Republican both parties are fucked up im only for real responsible change, and thats some shit the people can believe in, bugger off your brainwashed
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
No one cares what YOU have to say! You're in the minority remember? You PREDICT a coming storm of problems in an attempt the scare and enrage people over Obama (a common republican tactic) "if there is an America left after he's done with it"
You're looking at the wrong President. We already had a President that wrecked the country with his republican, conservative policies. The guy you voted for remember? By the name of George W Bush
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
Frankly, i dont see the country heading down the road you hope it will go or that Rush hopes it will go or that Jim Demint hopes it will go.
I'm supporting my President because of the ACTION he's taken, something Republicans know nothing about. Since he's been in office, Obama has retarded the steep decline caused by republicans that even now is showing signs of turning around while YOUR President (Bush who the republicans were fanatical over) when he left office, the economy was in free fall
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
In short we ARE better off with Dems than republicans b/c we can make a direct comparison of the ACTION each party has/had taken while in power.
Republicans-no effort to come up with any health care plan or drive shrink the deficit. No attempt to create better jobs, shot down health care for children and wasted 900 billion in Iraq for nothing
Dems: significant improvement over last year's economy when Bush left, striving to create affordable ins which republican once again trying to halt
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
ok so again you just bring up crazy random shit, ill humor you whats have the DEMS done thats some much better than the repulicans, what what has obama done other than everything bush did just tripled it, or left it the same. plz tell me why its so much better enlighten me please and be specific plz
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
you republicans with your "concern" over deficits & fiscal responsiblilty.
According to you republicans, it's okay to waste money so long as it goes into Iraq. It's not okay to spend money here in the US for healthcare, creating government jobs for OUR citizens, or drive down the deficit.
Dems: Healthcare reform, deficit reduction (you're too stupid to understand this part), creating new job industries and infrastructure.
Republicans - more wars and invasions into foreign countries
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
"creating new job industries and infrastructure."
Obama's still losing jobs... the last time unemployment was this high ther was also a democrat in the white house. Since he signed stimulus we've lost well over 3 million jobs... now they claim to have created or "saved" (whatever the hell that means) 650,000. I guess that's you guys' way of saying the glass is half full.
10072018 2 years ago
yes but he still beats the hell out of any republican out there who really have no concern for this country. They sure as hell have no concerns over spending (see Iraq invasion '03 for definition of wasteful spending)
When they balk over spending, it's their usual ruse to smear Obama and cause distrust. They just want to get back into power but their track record is filled with failure. They'll never make it back. They didnt have the first clue on how to handle a crisis like Katrina
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
"the last time unemployment was this high ther was also a democrat in the white house"
I think it was 1983--when Reagan was in the White House.
zombiesoiree 2 years ago
You're absolutely right, it was stupid of me to post that without looking it up! But you could say Reagan "inherited" it from Carter, much the same way Obama claims to have "inherited" problems from Bush. Based on Reagan's eventual success at dramatically lowering the rate I could only hope Obama can mirror that success in bringin down unemployment... but I seriously doubt he will.
10072018 2 years ago
i dont think you even remember the argument you got in with me, your a goon for some news station or just a looney. Im in the military and i oppose the wars jackass thump me in with a group like the hawkish republicans and the last time i looked an trust me i fucking know obama has increased troop levels your so called peace candidate, nobel prize my ass, you are very naive if you think that any president here in the last 30 yrs was elected, u still didnt answer the question what have they done
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
show me where in article one section 8 of the constitution it says the federal government has the right to regulate health care, dont give me any bullshit about its just a piece of paper either i swore an oath to it , if you say its bullshit then my job is bullshit, what about obama sending 28000 more to afghan, the so called peace candidate, i fucking black you piss me off because your still a two parter idiot, wake the fuck up
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago 2
Show me where in the constitution it say the fed CAN'T regulate health care.
and another thing, did they have health insurance back in those days?
btw, you do a pore imatashun of riting blak
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
article one section8 goes over the powers of the federal government an it states anything not covered in it is strictly a power of the state, health care is not in there so its the states job not the federal government, it doesnt say dierctly that it cant bc that clause would be fucking huge like are god damn tax code so the founders made it easy 4 ppl like you, 20 things the fed gov can do the rest is the states responsibility, period, end of the god damn story
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
in other words, it doesnt state it. But the govt does have the right to regulate unfair business practices and health care IS a business.
Only republicans like you with their heads on backwards would ever think of shooting down a govt program that brings down the cost of healthcare. You republicans are intering with our rights to affordable health care and that makes you an actual danger to the rest of us so I suggest you shut your damn trap and move yur miserable ass out to another country
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
im not a republican there a fucking reason they said that government can only do "these things" and everything else because it puts to much power into the hands of the federal government, your a stupid fuck im a solider in the us army i see how the government runs things first hand and you want them to run healthcare for you pull your head out of your fucking ass, government is wasteful an inefficient ask anyone you fucking works for them this country is going to collapse im sick ppl like you
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
Who do you think pays your salary? the government and your badmouthing it? If it wasnt for the goverment your ass would be out on the street so stop whining! You're the LAST person that sould be complaining.
"I'm a soldier in the US army and I see how the government runs things"
Not only are you a liar but a kingsized jackass republican prick!
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
first of all dumb ass you pay my salary so get your fucking facts straight moron. I took a pledge to protect you, i wouldnt be on the street id still be in college, im not a Republican like i said , and i find you the perfect example as to why this country is fucked up an lost someone from the inside is speaking out an you say what you did stupid child. an what i make could hardly be called a salary jackass. but im not in it for the money. you really are miss inform an brainwashed sad....
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
I didnt ask you to protect me. trust me, I am perfectly capable of handling myself against anyone who crosses my path as you may well know.
I think you enlisted because: A) you were either suckered into it or B) arent capable of doing anything else because of low level skills and needed work-ANY work
Yes, you are a government employee whether you care to admit it or not. They own you
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
I think your the idiot! The government cant run a health care system. Look at medicare, medicade and the va hospitals and you want them running your health care? WOW hows that cash for clunkers going for you or the cap and tax they want to pass orthe stimulas that was so important to save the unemployment? Your the fool! Government needs to stay the hell out of the health care system!
donttelluseenme 2 years ago
why not? It runs the military, air traffic controllers and postal service is great! It's much cheaper than FEDEX. Medicare and Medicaid are also extremely well run. I dont know anyone who wants to part with it. And it's SOOOOO affordable! I absolutely love it!! Like the gentleman said "keep your government hands off my medicare!!"
When we finally get this govt option underway, the people will wonder why we bothered with private insurance plans this long
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
Yah and after a few years you can be like Canada waiting YEARS for a doctor or even YEARS for tests and operations! We dont need socialized health care. Look at the VA's they SUCK and medicare is a joke thats why its BROKE now! How is that good? Post office good. Hahahahaha your funny.
donttelluseenme 2 years ago
No, YOU'RE funny! Thinking anyone would believe the lies you learned from Glenn Beck "waiting years for a Doctor in Canada"
I know better than to listen to a republican (please don't deny that you are a republican or that you voted for Bush)
Anyhow, your scare tactics might work if only our system wasnt in such bad shape. The for-profit model for health care doesnt work which is why reform is in the works to change it. Our government is the pill that will FORCE the greedy corp to be honest
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
here you are complaining about socialized medicine as if having private insurance was such a great thing to have. For one thing, it's expensive as hell. and even worse, they have their specialists dig up dirt on you in order to deny paying for your treament as they did recently with an underweight toddler of all people! Imagine, digging up dirt to find a pre existing condition on a toddler? Can you imagine all the other people they do this with on a daily business?
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
Yet again more proof that the for profit model in health care means disaster for anyone expecting help paying for treatment.
Can't make a profit if you got to shell out big money for emergency treatment, sugeries, and a long stay in the hospital. Forget about a stay in ICU.
And here you are thinking the country is worried about socizlizing medicine. You stupid little pea brain republican!!
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
well if you really think a GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAM WONT LIMIT YOUR CARE YOU ARE THE IDIOT! YOU ARE JUST AS STUPID AS THE FOOLS ON THE HILL! WATCH IN 2010 AS WE VOTE OUT ALL THE FOOLS LIKE YOU FROM OFFICE!!! YOU WANT A GOVERNMENT FREE RUN PROGRAM DAMN IT YOU PAY FOR IT AND LEAVE MY HARD EARNED MONEY THE HELL ALONE! YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND DONT LISTEN TO WELL SO DONT COMMENT NO MORE TO ME! YOUR A WAISTE OF TIME LIKE OBAMA WITH ALL HIS BS!!!
donttelluseenme 2 years ago 2
"if you really think a GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAM WONT LIMIT YOUR CARE YOU ARE THE IDIOT!"
Lol another witty comeback from a Conservative.
I wonder if this chap has carefully considered the pros and cons of systems around the world to come up with that brilliand insight. I'm guessing probably not :)
"LEAVE MY HARD EARNED MONEY THE HELL ALONE!"
Ah yes...Obamas henchmen are coming for you! There going to steal your money and pay for a sick kids operation...Bastard Guys!
KarpKomet 2 years ago
You ever try to find a doctor when your on medicade? I have watched and tried to help a few people find a dentist and an eye care giver with no luck. Hmmm that really dont seem like a great system to me when over 3/4th the doctors dont take Medicade. Thats a joke too man get real here now.
donttelluseenme 2 years ago
yes I have and have never experienced ANY of the problems that you mentioned and the process is handled smoothly; much better than when I had private insurance. I really got dicked around by them. The greedy private insurers liked getting their monthly checks but when it came time for them to make the payouts to treat my illness, they found the damndest excuses to weasle their way out of paying. Private insurers even found a way to deny coverage for treating an underweight toddler.
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
im in the intel field dumbass, yep not qaulified anything other than the army..alot people join for alot of reason, and i dont care if you asked anyone to protect you, its the job of the armed services...."service" to protect the american people from all enemies foreign or DOMESTIC...and above all unhold the constitution...not the government in power. your lame an pretty uninformed about the army
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
the lying tea bagger who's trying to protect the profits of an industry that's ripping us off, says he wants to protect me but tells me he's in the intell department. digging a deeper hole with more lies.
You're in intel and dont know who pays your salary then badmouthing your own employer. aire your grievances with the govt, let them know how you feel-that the US Gov can't run an organization right and that it's incompetent and too expensive
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
u are simple minded If you think that every single aspect of this country is controlled they're not ripping us of u get what you pay for, that why u have a 600% more of a chance of living from all forms of cancer here than u do any where else, for a simpleton like u medicare is government run an is about to go bankrupt, an for god sake u fuckin retard iam not an employee of the government, they dont pay my salary tax payer money does where do u think they get it out of thin air o wait they do
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
Survival rate? Don't you mean remission rate?
You get all your stats from FOX-news for retards. All cancer treatment is standard in advanced countries. You only get two types - chemo and radiation but you're telling me the survival rate in US is 600% higher? Explain that
You just pulled that figure out of your ass you stupid tea fagger.
You won't admit the gov is your employer, telling me sends you funds directly into your account. Get out of here moron!
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
now i know for sure that you have no clue what your talking about, your labeling the shit out of me an i have no clue where got those or what some of them are, obama has made bushes spending look like childs play, i dont have a party im a politcal atheist, i dont like stupid people like you who are fucking brain washed by the government magical power to some how make things all better like your fucking vote counts or somthing..wake the hell, and again what the fuck are you talkin about
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
o yeah and ill be gald to leave this place if its full of people like you, maybe ill move to the Republic of Texas when that comes around...ive been complaining since before bush got into office too, my county was the one in fl who had all the voter fraud.
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
We told you not to vote for Bush and you went ahead and did it anyways. Now look what happened. so go ahead and move out to TX if it makes you fell better being closer to papa bush and junior the retard, trying to reienvent himself and get back into the public's graces (as if anyone would fall for his act a second time)
Not me tho. I was never for a moment thrown off by the little cunt anymore than I would be by any republican.
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
i dont think u listened earlier u black messiahs spending makes bush look conservative an that from his own budget estimates i think your racist, what does he being black have to do with it. when his term is over and he doesnt get re-elected an everyone sees the damage this phony has caused then you'll being crying alone in a room to yourself,if there is even an america left by the time he is done your just another american stuck in the two party politcal scene throwing tomatoes at the otherside
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
you know why you got a black messiah today? becuz you voted for Bush twice. It's YOUR fault! The republicans ruined everything and now they're paying for thier sins against the country and the world. Paying becuz they elected a Prez that ignored inteeligence that the terrorists were coming in jet liners and then he did nothing about it? WHere is the liller today? I bet he's with Bush's friends, the Bin Ladens. You republicans are in the toilet. the public completely lost faith in the party
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
last time i checked obama increased the deficit, hasnt passed healthcare reform and wont because its unconstitutional and will die in the senate or in court, you show me where obama has created more than a few thousands jobs i think the grand total has been about 40000, jobless claims run from about 500000 to 900000 every Qtr so what the fuck has he done be specific, your ranting about nothing except delusions of his greatness, im sorry he is not the messiah just a confused blackman
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
That's becuz your party keeps bitching like you "I THINK THE GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING TOO MUCH"
Remember? You say it 10 times a day. so when you say Obama hasnt passed health care reform just remember that you were never for it. Nowhere does it say expanding health care is unconstitutional. That's insane and you cant possibly believe that anyone would believe you. It would have ALREADY been shot down, died a quick death if that were the case.
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
im telling you right now and i know im right healthcare reform as far as the federal government is concern is unconstitutional, your saying its your right that you receive a service of someone else, that someone else is a person what if they say fuck you i dont want to give you your surgery 4 fucking pennies ill just stop doing surgeries, look around jackass doctors are already talking about it you do not have the right to someone else servicing you nor does the gov have the right to make some1
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! You loud talkers fail to realize that your precious capitalism has grown into a man-eating beast. The companies who have illegally and immorally acquired an unnecessary amount of wealth should be criminalized, tried in court and dissolved.
1. Campaign Finance Reform... no more bribing. It's time for politicians to remember who they work for.
2. Re-distribution of ill-gotten funds... We want our money back. The scales are tipping.
Suck on that Party of NO.
mrbucketface 2 years ago
the only reason it has happen is because the limitation in place against it were systematically taken away by the same people you are looting the treasury, and to the people who think government should take care of every little fucking thing including wiping there asses like the guy above me theyre the main reason this country is going to implode, the governemtn couldnt even handle cash for clinkers but they want to handle health care, what a joke, its the states job
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
those aren't crazies they are American people with there Liberty in Jeopardy
Clinton4VP 2 years ago
No they're slaves to the Fox News Channel that hang on the words of Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity. Left is wrong, right is wrong, get ALL the facts and decide for urself
brastmonkey 2 years ago
that was the case with the last election, GOP demolished, if Obama turns out the same, which I doubt , he will get fired also
britmantx 2 years ago
Whenever the power to govern is concentrated in the hands of a few, many will be unhappy. Eventually, all but the few will be unhappy.
OneMoreWinston 2 years ago
communist, socialist, marxist, or something ist for you morons to hate,
True patriots, BUY AN AMERICAN CAR, let's see how patriotic you are.
Next LOSE THE FAT, LARD ASS FOR YOU COUNTRY, the future of the US and the high costs of health YOU ARE SAT ON AND CRUSHING IT WITH YOUR WIEGHT
britmantx 2 years ago 2
thankyou, ive worked my ass off defending the damn country the lest people could do for soldiers is lose some fucking weight and to be honest with you most of the soldiers are pissed because healthcare more fucking important than us fighting and dieing, why the fuck are we even in Afghanistan, cause nobody gives a shit
REVOLTbydesign86 2 years ago
To republicans, the solution to all health problems is "drop some weight". No wonder your party never had a domestic agenda-you're too simplistic to think of one that works. complaining about making healthcare affordable for Americans? like Bush, you dont care if people cant afford treatement and would prefer to let them die then condemn them when they complain. that's why your party's in the toilet and Obama is in power; becuz were sick of your kind having a say how the country should be run.
Piglatinsuperstar 2 years ago
As we can see by some of the responses here, Marxism is very attractive to some people. They won't go and live in a Marxist country, but want the US to become one. Make no mistake about the President's love affair with Marxist ideology. His parents were Marxists, he admired Marxists in his past and has written about it. We are to enter into a time when ALL have virtually NOTHING. True Patriots will resist, While closet socialists/Marxists are already to bend over and prepared to receive!
kenzo5716 2 years ago 2
How enlightening. You really should teach a course somewhere. Such vision.......You see it all so clearly.
Now tell us about the death panels and the forced sterilization.
PLEEEAAASE.....
robertwienerrocks 2 years ago
You should do your home work! Obama's Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, John Holdren, penned a 1977 book that approved of and recommended compulsory sterilization and even abortion in some cases, as part of a government population control regime. The book was titled "ECOSCIENCE and was 1000 pages long. Holdren refers approvingly, for example, to Indira Gandhi's government for its then-recent attempt at a compulsory sterilization program!
kenzo5716 2 years ago
kenzo
I think you lost a lib. he put his tail between his legs and went slinking off. But, we need to do more than defeat the cretins in debate here on Youtube. I have been to a couple of tax protest demonstrations. I have phoned and emailed and faxed but still we are drifting towards a totalitarian government.
HeisenbergSleptHere 2 years ago
remember, comrade obama's hand-picked science czar wrote a book in 1977 advocating FORCED sterilization and MANDATORY abortions. the book is 1000 pages long(!), and is titled ECOSCIENCE! Don't forget to chec k this out, now...OK???
kenzo5716 2 years ago
flag 1941
really some great comments. Everyone has a good point. That's what we're all about. When the state told us we had to close down our local school and go somewhere else, we were all yelling and *@#. People do what they have 2. I don't want my insurance messed with. Took me 30 yr to get it. At the same time, ppl need to be cared for. In our state(IL) we have several resources.
flag1941 2 years ago
I feel a little like PAUL REVERE must have felt.
The SOCIALISTS are coming, the SOCIALISTS are coming.
Stay bogged down in the minutiae of the moment, like in this video, or come to your senses.
The Obama administration is deliberately systematically destroying the American economy. Why? Because once enough people are on welfare, dependent on government for their paycheck (12 million now on extended unemployment benefits) food, energy, health care , education.
WE ARE SOCIALIZED.
HeisenbergSleptHere 2 years ago
OMG We are socialized! For example, I drove here on a PUBLIC road. Why aren't there private roads, once for each individual person? And Private armies? Or Private Post Offices? OMG The sky is falling the world is ending Beck was right! I'm scared so scared!
You're no Paul Revere. Revere had balls. You're just an anonymous coward on the internet.
NakedWombat666 2 years ago
There are private roads. There are private armies. There are private post offices. Where you been?
You made a comment like that just to call me a coward? Nothing cowardly about fighting against socialism . I did it in the military, in the Navy, in the Korean War. We did it in Vietnam. We did it in Iraq, and we are doing it in Afghanistan.
Pigmy brained naked wombats are not cute. Maybe if you are 10, they look cute.
TAMARLANE 2 years ago 2
"There are private roads. There are private armies. There are private post offices. Where you been?"
I think wombats point was there are some things that are and always will be public.
As you MUST know you don't personally hire blackwater to defend your country
Now we can debate about the korean war but iraq and afghanistan! That was just NOT about socialism. The cold war is over(thx in part 2 you!), so i don't think korean\cuban shock troops are showing up in your back yard anytime soon.
KarpKomet 2 years ago
And, I know how to spell pygmy. ink oink
TAMARLANE 2 years ago
This comment below by Heisenberg was influenced by years of anti soviet propaganda. Whenever he or she hears the word socialized whatever its attached 2 is bad.
Note the insane lack of specifics.....Obama is DELIBERATLEY....!.....DESTROYING the economy in a plot 2 make ppl depedant on welfare. That's just conspiracy...hell it doesn't even make sense! Yes..SOME elements of 3 bills are socialist IN NATURE. oh i wonder how one makes the jump from that 2 complete socialist takeover = propaganda.
KarpKomet 2 years ago
Yeah, you're just like Paul Revere. Only he was out doing something, and you are pathetically sitting on your computer spewing out ill-informed nonsense........The similarities are uncanny.....
robertwienerrocks 2 years ago
You have a crystal ball? You are a psychic?
I don't have any idea what he is doing. How can you know?
NotEasilyRegimented 2 years ago
I was just thinking about that Nazi eugnics poster with a cripple and a doctor on it. It talked about how the cripple cost Germans 600000 Deutchmarks in his life time and said, That's your money too commrade.
When Hitler took over and everyone said he would have death panels for the weak and for Jews they all said they were crazy and stupid too.
Lets just hope that everone will listen this time before another 10million go to the ovens.
mainestategop 2 years ago
Wow another nazi quote in bad taste. How do you make the jump from a end of life cost debate to millions in ovens.
Let me explain... This is a debate about granny's who ARE dying. Countrys around the world have come to the conclusion that they spend a massive portion of there health budget on the last few months of life. The debate is could some of that money be better spent on kids with cancer and young mothers.Very touchy subject.
Obama now knows ppl like you are not ready for that chat. :)
KarpKomet 2 years ago
Did you know that a Democrat senator actually said that it would be cheaper to let the elderly and disabled die? think about it. they aren't productive and heavens! They may be espousing politically incorrect beliefs as well! So what's to stop the state from saving money by killing granny?
mainestategop 2 years ago
KarpKomet-- I hate it when I hit the wroung thumb sign. You are right, the ppl are not ready or just too stupid to understand, and the Insurance Industry is banking on that big time.
Townclownsunite 2 years ago
These people have coverage and are pissed off. People who don't have coverage aren't saying anything. What it wrong with that picture. If you still think a man with a white robe going to rise from the dead and kill off everyone you don't like then you were probably at one of these town hall meetings. If you have common sense and hope you probably weren't. Lets change that around and start taking over this country that is supposed to work for us. Everyone deserves to be healthy. Start with you.
N8iveNik 2 years ago
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It is kind of amazing some "people" think health costs are like buying a car or any other commercial proposition (eg: all the insurance co-sponsored posts on Youtube by varying "people"). You can plan to buy a car or a house: it's your own responsibility and your money allocation--but you can't plan a medical affliction. Not the same. I simply note one anti-health plan person on Ytube had her two fave videos as a) a revolver shooting into a tank, and b) a clip of Milton F'man on "Greed". True!!
seriousnews2 2 years ago
Sarah Palin=GWB in Hillarys clothes.
tfustudios 2 years ago 2
bahahaaa LOVE THE TITLE OF THIS CLIP!!
2potatocakes 2 years ago
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No legal rights now, if you give them even more power what will the insurance companies do?
They are trying to make you fly to Mexico for heart surgery. Maybe next they will FORCE you on a diet and round you up at 05.00 to make you work out.
I don't understand profit from suffering, money doesn't equate good health care. If the 'stock holders' of the health insurances eg Foreign countries want even more for their 'investment', Americans get ready to pay even more, Asia runs you more now
britmantx 2 years ago
In places, like the whole of Florida, you can't sue if you over 21 and they kill your momma. In the whole of California, you can only sue the doctor, if he fucks you, I mean literally, if he rapes you, you can sue him. I wanted to sue my health insurance, could not get a lawyer to take me on, I tried 20.
Hospitals are very well protected, no one dares challenge them in a court, Kaiser Permanent has a term in your insurance ARBITRATION, take out their health insurance and you can't sue them
britmantx 2 years ago
Yea! Brit is for tort reform! We're making progress!!
MonikaNGeneva 2 years ago
in places THE US IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTY, SHIT YOU SEEN THE SOUTH?
No other nation has this shitty expensive heathcare and America is not your deserted tropical Island, there are millons of other people here. I hope you don't universal healthcare, just everyone else.
Why did you LOSE the election? Was it a shock?? Did you found yourself in a minority and few people agree with you, think like you, or vote like you.
No white house for you anytime soon.
britmantx 2 years ago