Germany systematically uses torture and murder to silence any opposition. Some of the murders known to the public: Uwe Barschel, Jürgen Möllemann, Heiner Gehring, Martina Pflock, Tron, Karl Koch, Bernd Seiffert, Kirsten Heisig, Fritz Bauer.
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during 5.5 years by the German BND. He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage.
German snitchers are following me on youtube and immediately flag my postings.
I think it is time to find ourselves by deep digging our souls and try to be all togheter like ONE, not begging someone else to do something, avoiding to take our responsabilities.
Who feels better by praying God, Mary, Allah or whatever don't do nothing bad, simply the religious establishment will take advantage by controlling the masses minds and the money coming from their pokets.
Thus the solution is to stop using your intellectual mind which will never know God, think instead with your Spiritual Heart and get off your butt and go there. Bet you won't be running off at the mouth about 'fraud apparitions' then. EXPERIENCE GOD's LOVE for once in your lives. God Bless
bobiMC, I don't know if I'd have your courage in exposing this nonsense.
Thank you for destroying your camera to show how such scams are made. This was a true act of bravery and generosity. You are an inspiration to those of us who stand up against fakes and con-artists.
Thank you so much for showing how the fraud is done. Thank you.
bock, bobiMCs comments below says that it was not a fraud. That it was recorded by his parents and they saw it as did others who you could hear in the background talking about it. So it seems like your intent is to cast deliberate doubt on this video fraudulently yourself!
Going to have an expert in photography take a look at this as he knows tricks with camera's. The movement of the camera can be recorded to see if they fit the independant object we see. There is away that the flashing pulsating effect of the sun can be done with a camera. However people see this with their own eyes there. I know two people who went there and saw not just this but everything turned yellow with a bright light, trees, grass everything bathed. Both became nuns, gave up everything.
I know a person who also went there as an atheist and it completely changed their lives. They could not stop talking about the miracles they saw.. They became a devout Christian afterwards.. So many people have seen this stuff. Same as in Fatima..People enter as a skeptic and leave fulfillied and redeemed...
While somethings can be explained as natural, there are things that cant. In Egypt three quarters of a million people at one time saw the Virgin Mary, and newspapers were filled with photographs of her, on top the Egyptian police raided a 20 mile radius to out rule trickery. In Betaina 500 people, terminally ill cured, Ukraine 80,000. Fatima's miracle was different, 70,000 fell to the ground thinking world was going to end. Cant photograph or put in telly hullicinations.
I'm lucky enough to have been there once before. I saw and heard of more miacles that week than in the rest of my life. This is a place chosen by God for sure.
In the last days it will be, God declares, That I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Even upon my slaves, both men and women, in those days I will pour out My Spirit; and they shall prophesy. And I will show portents in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and smoky mist.
it is not a montage, it has been recorded by our family friends at the time of their visit to medjugorje. my parents transfered it to mobile phone via bluetooth and i put it on the youtube. in the background you can hear a male voice talking about the phenomenon. if it is just another lense effect, why are people wondering of it in background? i was once in medjugorje and i didn't see it.
@efrancesio guarda che il miracolo non è il puntino del riflesso, ma che considerazione è la tua? Sui riflessi della telecamera? E' normale che ci siano, non è normale che il sole pulsi in quella maniera semmai.
@lovepapu lo confermo, ho tante telecamere qua gliele presto e sfido chiunque a fare un video identico a questo... se ci riesce gli do 1000 euro... senza il digital editing ovviamente... solo con la telecamera ! Atei, o doppio cieco, o tacete...
@efrancesio visto che sei cosi bravo, perchè non ce lo fai vedere e lo fai tu? Io sono un esperto di videoediting forse nemmeno usando after effects riusciresti ad ottenere un risultato così naturale, e poi non credo nemmeno che bobiMC come tutti gli altri che hanno ripreso il sole di medjugorje siano buontemponi esperti di montaggio video... A che scopo me lo spiegheresti? I fake vengono sempre scoperti, ma da esperti, non da improvvisati come te...
@efrancesio aggiungerei, che di sottofondo si sentono i commenti di tutte le persone meravigliate dall'evento, son tutti stati pagati o sonoro taroccato? Uhm... assurdo non credi?
If it was in London then all claims of a "miracle" become invalid. This is about cameras, not the sun, and how their aperture control can be sent into "shock" by over-exposure to intense light. The sun is closely monitored and recorded 24 hours a day from Earth and space and nothing like this has ever happened. Send your claim to "Nature" or another scientific journal and win a Nobel Prize since it shows reality is an illusion! Or not, since there was just the sun. In the sky. As normal.
My husband works in film and on many he has explained how shutters can cause this affect, however away from the sun, there is another object of light darting around that I am curious about. The sun monitor thing does not apply to this, 70,000 people saw with eyes in Fatima and fell to the ground screaming, but miles away others saw it too, but nothing recorded with the sun on the level you refer too. Take a look at the light looks like a star, will get hubby to see; why is it so dark generally?
moves with the camera, most lightly a double lens reflection :D its a usual effect with the sun, turn ur mobile phone at the sun you'll see a black spot and a flare :D
God sent his mother and angels for nonbeleviers, for sinners, he came for all specially for those who don't believe,if many here has God in their hearts is ok, don't need for something else, but there are many who needs to be saved
I have been to Medjugorje twice. Both times I witnessed the Miracle of the Sun. It's a gift to be able to see this but it is not what Medjugorje is all about. It is about the messages that are being delivered to us through the visionaries. That is to confess our sins monthly, receive the Eucharist, read the Bible, fast and pray for peace and especially pray the Rosary. Simple instructions but hard to do. Many miracles are witnessed, .. the sun, .. healings, but it's all about the messages.
What you believe is fine, no problem. But it does not PROVE anything. If you are willing to have faith in something, that is your business but remember it is subjective and other people believe other things. And your comment about being jealous is laughable. It cracks me up that people are so convinced of their beliefs that they can't see that others can be similarly convinced of their (completely different) beliefs.
Once again. A dancing sun, real or imagined, true or fake, proves nothing.
You have obviously never been to Medjugorje or chosen to witness the miracle of Mary. . .that is a typical response from someone who has never been--negative and full of criticism. Of course the sun miracle proves something: Mary's presence and power and how full of promise She and Her Son are for us if we believe. . .and I realize it is just not cool to be a believer, but I thank God that I am one.
You obviously didn't read what I wrote, I wasn't negative or critical. I just said everyone is entitled to their own belief. And that includes a belief in whatever, if anything, is happening in Medjugorje. Your response is typical of a certain type of christian (not the only type, thankfully), seeing negativity and hostility where there is none.
Oh yes it does prove it. It is Mary manifesting herself through a dancing sun. Have you no faith at all? Do you not yet comprehend whqat is happening there and in the world?
I saw that miracle in Puerto Rico. In the 50th Aniversary of her Apparition. I believe in that, because, I saw it with my own eyes .. This prove that God i real.
Blind faith is ignorant. Faith should be of the truth. Truth is real and therefore findable. Please don't preach faith if it is in the illusive and unknowable. That faith is taught, destructive, and untrue.
Wrong. Faith is very personal and for each one of us we find we have faith in different things. I have faith that my wife and children love me but how can I "prove" that? I can't, but i trust in that love. I have faith in God but I can't "prove" that He/She is real and yet I simpy know it to be so. I don't need some "sign" from the heavens to confirm what I allready know to be true. Or as Jesus said to Thomas..."Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have come to faith." John 20:29
The love between your wife and children is real. It is obvious to you, and if I observed your family I am sure it would be obvious to me. That love and proof can be experienced. As with God, the love and relationship can be experienced. Surely it is real and happening. Faith in the "unhappening" is probably untrue. God is real(the most real) so why can't it be proven?
btw I hope I don't come off sounding rude. I love "God talk" but I often get too intense. Blessings.
I get what your saying, i'm with ya.You're right i guess but I just ...sometimes...get concerned that we ,as believers, spend too much time looking for signs and wonders when in fact the signs and wonders of God are everywhere. I don't know about this Medjugorje at all...It's just, as believers, we don't need it.
Faith is after all..."the assurance of things hoped for,the conviction of things not seen." heb 11:1
In my experience, people who are hungry for the novelty of signs don't receive them. I didn't think I needed a sign and didn't expect to experience one but I did anyway and it has been very useful to me (and it was nothing to do with the sun).
I admit as a Quaker i do not ever look for signs outside of what my heart feels...maybe I should. My 17 year old son is very interested in the Roman Church and I only want him to follow the path God directs him on and he finds this quite amazing. I find a hummingbird quite amazing.
I am not saying that we should seek signs but we should accept them when clearly given. A good example was given at the last Fatima apparition in 1917 visible to all present even the communist gov't officials (and for a radius of around 12 miles). There are photos and news reports of this available on youtube and the net.
I've seen this with my own eyes, so I know it is true. There are many other such signs, but we don't need them; the real proof that this is from God is that so many people have changed their lives and have come back to God. Hardly the devil's work!
If this is so unique, why do we not see physicists out there studying this phenomenon? Esp. astrophyicists who specialize in studying our local star, the sun.
"we" does not put you in charge. For decades the scientists have gone to medjugorje and they are still going,, the point is,, in medjugorje people come messed up and walk away healed for some non explained reason. this happens to such extreme extent that it defies all logic and science and the miracles of medjugorje have NEVER been undisputed. Before you make a dumb claim educate yourself
So why does the church refuse to recognize this site? Psychosomatic illnesses and adrenaline can do wonders.
BTW, this deity ought to pay a visit to a Children's Hospital and heal those poor innocents lying there dying of cancer. But I guess that wouldn't attract enough attention.
I've no doubt this celestial phenomenon will be as easily explained as eclipses are to us today. It's almost laughable that all these purported gods can do is play tricks with supposed visions of the sun!
Studying and finding out what causes this phenomenon would not make a scientist believe in a god. Since we can't post URLs here, just do a search on Medjugoreje Debunked. There's some great info as to why this phenomenon has started, and it's more to do with politics and the local ethnic wars then anything otherworldly.
The more you educate yourself on this subject, the easier it is to see through it. And do remember-staring at the sun can cause severe retinal damage.
I have seen and experienced many unexplainable things in my life, yet I don't see the need to attach religious significance to anything. Do the gods have nothing better to do then make the sun dance? Surely he/she/it can perform more earth shattering things then a carnival like light show.
It hurts me to see people deluded and manipulated.
It is wrong to give people false hope. Have you never had the suspicion that someone very earthbound might be doing this? Perhaps what is needed are illusionists, not scientists, to test this site.
This is only religious because the people believe it to be so. What the visionaries claim to experience is coming out of their own belief systems. Whatever is happening, it is being interpreted a certain way. Doesn't mean that is what it is.
I went there to find out what was going on, if you can't be bothered why should someone listen to you rather than the millions who have taken the time, trouble and expense to do so? Some have come back unpersuaded but at least they went before deciding. I resent being called deluded by a 'hands off' 'expert'
You are so right. I have also been critcized for my Medjugorje experiences, but it is always by those who have never gone. I believe it is pure jealousy on their part that they have not come to know what we know.
@ Cissy2cute Me desculpe, mas me parece uma afirmação muito simplória. Na verdade por traz deste sinal existe uma mensagem de Deus para os céticos, ateus e anti-religiosos. Ou seja: Deus existe! Estou me manifestando dentro da Minha Igreja! E Religiâo é importante! Em breve tudo isso será confirmado com os 10 segredos. Tudo de bom!
God does more than you know FOR you... He wakes you up, let's you shower, let's you eat, breather, live... He let's the sun light dance on your head and the rain wash you...
these videos of unexplained occurences may be reminders from up above. at the end of the day it is faith that keeps christians together. i cant see how non believers in anything wake up each morning with skepticism and disbelief that there is a GOD.
It's just about impossible to film the magnitude of what happens during one of these events. Cameras cannot capture it in it's full glory. I am not entirely sure what to believe, but as a Catholic I am certain divine forces are behind it -- just as they are behind everything in nature. I have never seen one of these myself, but I would sure like to.
Again, they cannot be described or even filmed -- one has to be there to experience the full authenticity.
Sorry, but that's a useless miracle.I'm all for bringing the dead back, curing the sick etc. but flashing suns don't do it for me. I guess I'll get negative marks here as usual for saying anything against what you all believe.
I don't think it's so useless. Anything that helps to strenthen one's faith and resolve is very powerful. Because, as a result of what has happened within that one person, you have no idea how many other people can be helped, or in how many different ways. And they can tell people who can tell others. There's just no way of knowing what one thing can do. It's just a different way of looking at it!
I'm afraid I don't see any resolve strengthening aspect to it either. It doesn't seem like any kind of a miracle really and doesn't tie in with Christian religion at all. I guess if people want to convince themselves that it does, then that's another story.
True, even Pharaoh's magicians were able to do miracles like God did through Moses and Aaron. Bottom line, just because it's supernatural doesn't mean it's from God.
I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. God is telling you in the Bible. Jesus is the only way to God the Father. Jesus is telling us " I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes unto Father but by me."
I have seen the miracle of the sun several times, at a marian site in homa la. and in kenner la.....my photo is in the shape of a monstrance and a red center.....it is a treasure forever....praise the Lord and His Mother.....I also saw the weeping print of Our Lady Of Compassionate Protection .......those non-believers would change their minds...I pray for them
Don`t be fooled. One of the visionaries alledgedly admitted to fraud. If you believe, FINE, but don`t do it on the basis of so called miracles. There are NONE.Peace !!
I have seen 3 different videos about the same phenomenon and I have to admit that it is fascinating! What I observed is that around the sun in each of these videos appears always a sort of a "dancing" light. Can a person who really knows and studied about physical phenomena explain all this to me please? I would like a scientific explanation because so far it appears to me as a miraculous event. Thank you.
That would mean that the Gospa is an alien and so are the apparitions of Jesus that people see there...the aliens also would be able to control how we feel because so many people feel an amazing heavenly peace there...
According to the Kardeshev scale civilizations can be tracked in development through analyzing the means in which they consume their energy, for example our civilization is type 0 as we use less than the total amount of available energy on the planet. A type 2 utilizes the energy of an entire sun. If that green thing is a ufo it makes sense that it would be able to manipulate the suns' radiance.
sure, and you know how many eyebrows loser president Bush has too, i`m sure. dumbass. you haven`t been there, and your post makes you look like a total idiot. then post a video of your own and do the same thing ???? let me know when you`re done.
sad fact is that the reflection of light of the camera lens makes the sun seem like its blinking what a miracle.. thank god this guy had a shitty camera or else there would be no miracle... lmfao
by the Fatima skeptical thing I meant that many people were skeptical of the children's claims of the apparitions but they became believers during the sun miracle...
Ever thought about Industrial Light and Magic, or Dreamworks?
Who are we, experts, to judge the credibility of the phenomenon from this or other vids? Computer effects do exist. So be there, look at it when it happens and if you see the orb then YES it's a miracle.
The "orb" moves only when the camera moves. And this doesn't mean there's no orb or there is one. That's what i'm saying. Could be fake but even if it was, this don't mean the phenomenon doesn't exist.
Listen to the howls of protest from those who just don't want to believe. Anyone who claims they can get this result with their own camera at home better do it and post the result on YouTube IMMEDIATELY!
Easy, point camera at sun, wave small thin object rapidly over lens, like a pen, a finger, a wooden ruler, the longer, thinner, and more rigid, the better.
I'll let someone else do it. I've already given myself a good laugh over this hoax. Old news. If you're still convinced that the sun flashes only for "certain people [i.e. no one]" and you just happen to not be one of those people [like everyone else in the world], then have fun swimming in your ignorance.
Lol you tards, its the same fucking sun all over the world, why would Medjugorje be any different? except you prolly have shit cameras there and survive from eating sand which makes you dillusional..... tards, just like saying "the moon in belgia is blue and smell of strawberries!"
Someone should wash your filthy mouth out with soap. You need to be desanitized. this is the sun of everyday, really ???? Quit acting dumb. and quit playing on the computer, your mom wants you in bed.
that "dot" looks a lot like and moves like a spirit orb. I have noticed this orb in almost every sun miracle video. I am wondering what is the correlation...
The correlation is that the "dot" is an internal reflex in the optics due to the superbright input from the sun. This abundance of photons also causes the CCD's to overflow of charge, which confuses the cameras auto-exposure, making it "blink".
Basically, buy a new camera and give up religion.
it looks like that this yellow dot moves independently, it doesn't follow the sun or movement of camera, so i wouldn't say that it is a flare...
i was not there when this happened, i just uploaded this video, it's been filmed by mobile phone, by a family friend, so i can't say if the dot was a part of the miracle or not
are you that fucking dumb, man ??? THAT is NOT the normal sun you idiot. typical atheist. Go to an atheist website and post your Bullshit there. freak.
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TekkonShiro 6 months ago
immagine olografica...
MrAlessio001 1 year ago
Loook to John Eagan for answers!
secrets1111 1 year ago
Germany systematically uses torture and murder to silence any opposition. Some of the murders known to the public: Uwe Barschel, Jürgen Möllemann, Heiner Gehring, Martina Pflock, Tron, Karl Koch, Bernd Seiffert, Kirsten Heisig, Fritz Bauer.
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during 5.5 years by the German BND. He was assassinated on 11.7.09 because of our homepage.
German snitchers are following me on youtube and immediately flag my postings.
wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
I think it is time to find ourselves by deep digging our souls and try to be all togheter like ONE, not begging someone else to do something, avoiding to take our responsabilities.
Who feels better by praying God, Mary, Allah or whatever don't do nothing bad, simply the religious establishment will take advantage by controlling the masses minds and the money coming from their pokets.
Love. Herman
medrano72 1 year ago
Tudo isso é verdade!
edjon10 1 year ago
At 0:09 seconds, "I'm holding you in my heart".
bakerloofox 1 year ago
Fake, its camera trick.
TheIxtlan 2 years ago
Thus the solution is to stop using your intellectual mind which will never know God, think instead with your Spiritual Heart and get off your butt and go there. Bet you won't be running off at the mouth about 'fraud apparitions' then. EXPERIENCE GOD's LOVE for once in your lives. God Bless
SuperCurrahee 2 years ago
bobiMC, I don't know if I'd have your courage in exposing this nonsense.
Thank you for destroying your camera to show how such scams are made. This was a true act of bravery and generosity. You are an inspiration to those of us who stand up against fakes and con-artists.
Thank you so much for showing how the fraud is done. Thank you.
bocktherobber 2 years ago
bock, bobiMCs comments below says that it was not a fraud. That it was recorded by his parents and they saw it as did others who you could hear in the background talking about it. So it seems like your intent is to cast deliberate doubt on this video fraudulently yourself!
davlupi 2 years ago
bobiMC doesn't want to take credit for exposing the fraud, and it is hard to blame.
The monks have an involvement with the criminal gangs who ran wild during the Bosnian war and this is why they were never attacked by any side.
I would be afraid of the Bosnian mafia who protect these crooks, because that is where the tourist money goes: to the Bosnian mafia.
bocktherobber 2 years ago
yeah right.... lol He doesn't want to take credit, but you are sure eager to throw him in front of the bus then! Shame on you... lol
davlupi 2 years ago
Your Mafia friends would throw him in front a bus much faster than I would
bocktherobber 2 years ago
Is that a UFO?
PaToOnS840 2 years ago
Going to have an expert in photography take a look at this as he knows tricks with camera's. The movement of the camera can be recorded to see if they fit the independant object we see. There is away that the flashing pulsating effect of the sun can be done with a camera. However people see this with their own eyes there. I know two people who went there and saw not just this but everything turned yellow with a bright light, trees, grass everything bathed. Both became nuns, gave up everything.
chaneltanita 2 years ago
I know a person who also went there as an atheist and it completely changed their lives. They could not stop talking about the miracles they saw.. They became a devout Christian afterwards.. So many people have seen this stuff. Same as in Fatima..People enter as a skeptic and leave fulfillied and redeemed...
davlupi 2 years ago
While somethings can be explained as natural, there are things that cant. In Egypt three quarters of a million people at one time saw the Virgin Mary, and newspapers were filled with photographs of her, on top the Egyptian police raided a 20 mile radius to out rule trickery. In Betaina 500 people, terminally ill cured, Ukraine 80,000. Fatima's miracle was different, 70,000 fell to the ground thinking world was going to end. Cant photograph or put in telly hullicinations.
chaneltanita 2 years ago
it's the sun signaling to al gore to go fly a kite, because it (the sun) is causing global warming, and not us.
pete5668 2 years ago
Gee, did noted climate scientist Rush Limbaugh tell you to say that? LMAO! What a moron.
oceanphysics 2 years ago
no, it's proven.
pete5668 2 years ago
great video! tell me, do you have chemtrails at medjugorje?? Gospa forever!
supercashgirl 2 years ago
I'm lucky enough to have been there once before. I saw and heard of more miacles that week than in the rest of my life. This is a place chosen by God for sure.
crossessolonely 2 years ago
light reflection
kasihku1001 3 years ago
planet x? lmao yeah ok
Galaron28 3 years ago
seriously the camera
codywright99 3 years ago
Acts 2,17-21
In the last days it will be, God declares, That I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. Even upon my slaves, both men and women, in those days I will pour out My Spirit; and they shall prophesy. And I will show portents in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and smoky mist.
elLuchador0 3 years ago
Che brutto fotomontaggio.
è fatto con il riflesso di un vetro ed un'altro alle spalle.
Forse in macchina.
Quando si muove la telecamera, il puntino si muove, altrimenti sta fermo.
efrancesio 3 years ago
it is not a montage, it has been recorded by our family friends at the time of their visit to medjugorje. my parents transfered it to mobile phone via bluetooth and i put it on the youtube. in the background you can hear a male voice talking about the phenomenon. if it is just another lense effect, why are people wondering of it in background? i was once in medjugorje and i didn't see it.
bobiMC 3 years ago
:D of course...
doboscsaba 2 years ago
oh but its true and there is more to come!
MrSlippin22 1 year ago
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Nico87vic 2 years ago
@efrancesio guarda che il miracolo non è il puntino del riflesso, ma che considerazione è la tua? Sui riflessi della telecamera? E' normale che ci siano, non è normale che il sole pulsi in quella maniera semmai.
lovepapu 1 year ago
@lovepapu lo confermo, ho tante telecamere qua gliele presto e sfido chiunque a fare un video identico a questo... se ci riesce gli do 1000 euro... senza il digital editing ovviamente... solo con la telecamera ! Atei, o doppio cieco, o tacete...
kikkosweb 1 year ago
@efrancesio centinia di fotomontaggi allora?
persenso 1 year ago
@efrancesio visto che sei cosi bravo, perchè non ce lo fai vedere e lo fai tu? Io sono un esperto di videoediting forse nemmeno usando after effects riusciresti ad ottenere un risultato così naturale, e poi non credo nemmeno che bobiMC come tutti gli altri che hanno ripreso il sole di medjugorje siano buontemponi esperti di montaggio video... A che scopo me lo spiegheresti? I fake vengono sempre scoperti, ma da esperti, non da improvvisati come te...
kikkosweb 1 year ago
@efrancesio aggiungerei, che di sottofondo si sentono i commenti di tutte le persone meravigliate dall'evento, son tutti stati pagati o sonoro taroccato? Uhm... assurdo non credi?
kikkosweb 1 year ago
@efrancesio potrebbe essere opera degli ufo e alieni
doktor579 1 year ago
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What idiots!
SFROCCHIA 3 years ago
If it was in London then all claims of a "miracle" become invalid. This is about cameras, not the sun, and how their aperture control can be sent into "shock" by over-exposure to intense light. The sun is closely monitored and recorded 24 hours a day from Earth and space and nothing like this has ever happened. Send your claim to "Nature" or another scientific journal and win a Nobel Prize since it shows reality is an illusion! Or not, since there was just the sun. In the sky. As normal.
Parahelia 3 years ago
My husband works in film and on many he has explained how shutters can cause this affect, however away from the sun, there is another object of light darting around that I am curious about. The sun monitor thing does not apply to this, 70,000 people saw with eyes in Fatima and fell to the ground screaming, but miles away others saw it too, but nothing recorded with the sun on the level you refer too. Take a look at the light looks like a star, will get hubby to see; why is it so dark generally?
paronaaron 2 years ago
moves with the camera, most lightly a double lens reflection :D its a usual effect with the sun, turn ur mobile phone at the sun you'll see a black spot and a flare :D
132mikle 2 years ago
The "other object darting about" is an internal reflection. Each time it moves, the camera also moves.
oceanphysics 2 years ago
i just had the same expereicne...in London! thanks for sharing. peace, love & wonder!
cealvaradob 3 years ago
siktea3 is exactly rite i 2 have been there and witnessed these miracles and how amazing it is!.. but the messages 2 the world r whats important!
dogster90 3 years ago
God sent his mother and angels for nonbeleviers, for sinners, he came for all specially for those who don't believe,if many here has God in their hearts is ok, don't need for something else, but there are many who needs to be saved
NenaBlue123 3 years ago
ECCO IL SOLE CHE PULSA BENE!!!!
scomandro70 3 years ago
I have been to Medjugorje twice. Both times I witnessed the Miracle of the Sun. It's a gift to be able to see this but it is not what Medjugorje is all about. It is about the messages that are being delivered to us through the visionaries. That is to confess our sins monthly, receive the Eucharist, read the Bible, fast and pray for peace and especially pray the Rosary. Simple instructions but hard to do. Many miracles are witnessed, .. the sun, .. healings, but it's all about the messages.
Silktea3 3 years ago 4
What you believe is fine, no problem. But it does not PROVE anything. If you are willing to have faith in something, that is your business but remember it is subjective and other people believe other things. And your comment about being jealous is laughable. It cracks me up that people are so convinced of their beliefs that they can't see that others can be similarly convinced of their (completely different) beliefs.
Once again. A dancing sun, real or imagined, true or fake, proves nothing.
Skowl 3 years ago
You have obviously never been to Medjugorje or chosen to witness the miracle of Mary. . .that is a typical response from someone who has never been--negative and full of criticism. Of course the sun miracle proves something: Mary's presence and power and how full of promise She and Her Son are for us if we believe. . .and I realize it is just not cool to be a believer, but I thank God that I am one.
Raphaella13 3 years ago
You obviously didn't read what I wrote, I wasn't negative or critical. I just said everyone is entitled to their own belief. And that includes a belief in whatever, if anything, is happening in Medjugorje. Your response is typical of a certain type of christian (not the only type, thankfully), seeing negativity and hostility where there is none.
Skowl 3 years ago
oh yes... I've been to medjugorje back 2006 and i never expected to see the dancing sun myself :) PrAisE GOD
Egocaritastu 3 years ago
It proves no such thing!
Skowl 3 years ago
Oh yes it does prove it. It is Mary manifesting herself through a dancing sun. Have you no faith at all? Do you not yet comprehend whqat is happening there and in the world?
Raphaella13 3 years ago
I saw that miracle in Puerto Rico. In the 50th Aniversary of her Apparition. I believe in that, because, I saw it with my own eyes .. This prove that God i real.
rosseto2006 3 years ago
What good is faith if it takes signs and wonders to find it? True faith...real faith needs no such signs.
boomac62 3 years ago
Blind faith is ignorant. Faith should be of the truth. Truth is real and therefore findable. Please don't preach faith if it is in the illusive and unknowable. That faith is taught, destructive, and untrue.
fdmipgo 3 years ago
Wrong. Faith is very personal and for each one of us we find we have faith in different things. I have faith that my wife and children love me but how can I "prove" that? I can't, but i trust in that love. I have faith in God but I can't "prove" that He/She is real and yet I simpy know it to be so. I don't need some "sign" from the heavens to confirm what I allready know to be true. Or as Jesus said to Thomas..."Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have come to faith." John 20:29
Peace
boomac62 3 years ago
The love between your wife and children is real. It is obvious to you, and if I observed your family I am sure it would be obvious to me. That love and proof can be experienced. As with God, the love and relationship can be experienced. Surely it is real and happening. Faith in the "unhappening" is probably untrue. God is real(the most real) so why can't it be proven?
btw I hope I don't come off sounding rude. I love "God talk" but I often get too intense. Blessings.
fdmipgo 3 years ago
I get what your saying, i'm with ya.You're right i guess but I just ...sometimes...get concerned that we ,as believers, spend too much time looking for signs and wonders when in fact the signs and wonders of God are everywhere. I don't know about this Medjugorje at all...It's just, as believers, we don't need it.
Faith is after all..."the assurance of things hoped for,the conviction of things not seen." heb 11:1
boomac62 3 years ago
Oh, but we do need it: Mary's wonders and Mary's works as gifts to us. Oh, yes, we need all She is willing to give us.
Raphaella13 3 years ago
Faith is the belief in the unknown!
swtorpey 3 years ago
Yes, that is what it all so special. It is such a gift to have a true, deep faith.
Raphaella13 3 years ago
In my experience, people who are hungry for the novelty of signs don't receive them. I didn't think I needed a sign and didn't expect to experience one but I did anyway and it has been very useful to me (and it was nothing to do with the sun).
Estaban333 3 years ago
I admit as a Quaker i do not ever look for signs outside of what my heart feels...maybe I should. My 17 year old son is very interested in the Roman Church and I only want him to follow the path God directs him on and he finds this quite amazing. I find a hummingbird quite amazing.
peace
boomac62 3 years ago
I am not saying that we should seek signs but we should accept them when clearly given. A good example was given at the last Fatima apparition in 1917 visible to all present even the communist gov't officials (and for a radius of around 12 miles). There are photos and news reports of this available on youtube and the net.
Estaban333 3 years ago
Can I get brown in peace this summer or do I have to think to the dancing sun in Medjugorje ?!
Posso abbronzarmi in pace questa estate o devo pensare al sole che balla a Medjugorje ?!
ateo975 3 years ago
I've seen this with my own eyes, so I know it is true. There are many other such signs, but we don't need them; the real proof that this is from God is that so many people have changed their lives and have come back to God. Hardly the devil's work!
JamesMorganLondon 3 years ago
If this is so unique, why do we not see physicists out there studying this phenomenon? Esp. astrophyicists who specialize in studying our local star, the sun.
Cissy2cute 3 years ago
"we" does not put you in charge. For decades the scientists have gone to medjugorje and they are still going,, the point is,, in medjugorje people come messed up and walk away healed for some non explained reason. this happens to such extreme extent that it defies all logic and science and the miracles of medjugorje have NEVER been undisputed. Before you make a dumb claim educate yourself
Kris999x 3 years ago
So why does the church refuse to recognize this site? Psychosomatic illnesses and adrenaline can do wonders.
BTW, this deity ought to pay a visit to a Children's Hospital and heal those poor innocents lying there dying of cancer. But I guess that wouldn't attract enough attention.
I've no doubt this celestial phenomenon will be as easily explained as eclipses are to us today. It's almost laughable that all these purported gods can do is play tricks with supposed visions of the sun!
Cissy2cute 3 years ago
because then they would have to admit GOD is real..
not just ANY God, but Jehova God.
"And I will cause wonders in the heavens aboveand signs on the earth below" Acts 2:19
Descipleofchrist101 3 years ago
Studying and finding out what causes this phenomenon would not make a scientist believe in a god. Since we can't post URLs here, just do a search on Medjugoreje Debunked. There's some great info as to why this phenomenon has started, and it's more to do with politics and the local ethnic wars then anything otherworldly.
The more you educate yourself on this subject, the easier it is to see through it. And do remember-staring at the sun can cause severe retinal damage.
Cissy2cute 3 years ago
Why not just go there? Then you can tell us what it all means. If you haven't seen these things, you can't really add to our knowledge about it.
Estaban333 3 years ago
I have seen and experienced many unexplainable things in my life, yet I don't see the need to attach religious significance to anything. Do the gods have nothing better to do then make the sun dance? Surely he/she/it can perform more earth shattering things then a carnival like light show.
Cissy2cute 3 years ago
So why are you so interested in this?
Estaban333 3 years ago
It hurts me to see people deluded and manipulated.
It is wrong to give people false hope. Have you never had the suspicion that someone very earthbound might be doing this? Perhaps what is needed are illusionists, not scientists, to test this site.
This is only religious because the people believe it to be so. What the visionaries claim to experience is coming out of their own belief systems. Whatever is happening, it is being interpreted a certain way. Doesn't mean that is what it is.
Cissy2cute 3 years ago
I went there to find out what was going on, if you can't be bothered why should someone listen to you rather than the millions who have taken the time, trouble and expense to do so? Some have come back unpersuaded but at least they went before deciding. I resent being called deluded by a 'hands off' 'expert'
Estaban333 3 years ago
You are so right. I have also been critcized for my Medjugorje experiences, but it is always by those who have never gone. I believe it is pure jealousy on their part that they have not come to know what we know.
Raphaella13 3 years ago
@ Cissy2cute Me desculpe, mas me parece uma afirmação muito simplória. Na verdade por traz deste sinal existe uma mensagem de Deus para os céticos, ateus e anti-religiosos. Ou seja: Deus existe! Estou me manifestando dentro da Minha Igreja! E Religiâo é importante! Em breve tudo isso será confirmado com os 10 segredos. Tudo de bom!
edjon10 1 year ago
God doesn't really do anything to me, and I wont do anything to god
Jugemon76 3 years ago
God does more than you know FOR you... He wakes you up, let's you shower, let's you eat, breather, live... He let's the sun light dance on your head and the rain wash you...
Descipleofchrist101 3 years ago
these videos of unexplained occurences may be reminders from up above. at the end of the day it is faith that keeps christians together. i cant see how non believers in anything wake up each morning with skepticism and disbelief that there is a GOD.
brandsupersale 3 years ago 2
Ditto, brandsupersale! How beautiful these gifts we receive, such as the dancing sun.How good God is!
Raphaella13 3 years ago
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omg why ppl put all his efort on be so retarded ?
ffangeles 3 years ago
It's just about impossible to film the magnitude of what happens during one of these events. Cameras cannot capture it in it's full glory. I am not entirely sure what to believe, but as a Catholic I am certain divine forces are behind it -- just as they are behind everything in nature. I have never seen one of these myself, but I would sure like to.
Again, they cannot be described or even filmed -- one has to be there to experience the full authenticity.
Thanks for posting, though :)
SybilWolf 3 years ago 2
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YOU WEAK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
auramazda 3 years ago
Sorry, but that's a useless miracle.I'm all for bringing the dead back, curing the sick etc. but flashing suns don't do it for me. I guess I'll get negative marks here as usual for saying anything against what you all believe.
Skowl 4 years ago
I don't think it's so useless. Anything that helps to strenthen one's faith and resolve is very powerful. Because, as a result of what has happened within that one person, you have no idea how many other people can be helped, or in how many different ways. And they can tell people who can tell others. There's just no way of knowing what one thing can do. It's just a different way of looking at it!
feemeister 3 years ago
I'm afraid I don't see any resolve strengthening aspect to it either. It doesn't seem like any kind of a miracle really and doesn't tie in with Christian religion at all. I guess if people want to convince themselves that it does, then that's another story.
Skowl 3 years ago
sk0wl do not ask what god can do for you but ask what can you do for god!
dmokri 4 years ago
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That's a crappy miracle. Can't god do any better?
Skowl 4 years ago
look around or in the mirror
r44cker 3 years ago
And about the Eucharist
Hebrews 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
theeagerurger 4 years ago
Satan is capable of all of these simple miracles...........You must have faith without these things.
theeagerurger 4 years ago
True, even Pharaoh's magicians were able to do miracles like God did through Moses and Aaron. Bottom line, just because it's supernatural doesn't mean it's from God.
ozricus 4 years ago
@ singingactor....
Do you relaize people DO see the dancing sun in Medjugorje LIVE with no cameras .....
HercegBosna16 4 years ago
Hurr, Camera lens and the sun don't get along very well. I have plenty of shots ruined by some quirky reflection...
Tafferling 4 years ago
1. Ye men of Catholics,
I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. God is telling you in the Bible. Jesus is the only way to God the Father. Jesus is telling us " I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes unto Father but by me."
forestgump65 4 years ago
I have seen the miracle of the sun several times, at a marian site in homa la. and in kenner la.....my photo is in the shape of a monstrance and a red center.....it is a treasure forever....praise the Lord and His Mother.....I also saw the weeping print of Our Lady Of Compassionate Protection .......those non-believers would change their minds...I pray for them
iloveshoesdoyou 4 years ago
Don`t be fooled. One of the visionaries alledgedly admitted to fraud. If you believe, FINE, but don`t do it on the basis of so called miracles. There are NONE.Peace !!
Philos2006 4 years ago
HEj,and what about this object? accept the sun there is one object that is moving
purifikacija 4 years ago
False. This video was shot outside, on a clear, sunny day.
bobiMC 4 years ago
I have seen 3 different videos about the same phenomenon and I have to admit that it is fascinating! What I observed is that around the sun in each of these videos appears always a sort of a "dancing" light. Can a person who really knows and studied about physical phenomena explain all this to me please? I would like a scientific explanation because so far it appears to me as a miraculous event. Thank you.
DrHCB 4 years ago
That would mean that the Gospa is an alien and so are the apparitions of Jesus that people see there...the aliens also would be able to control how we feel because so many people feel an amazing heavenly peace there...
HercegBosna16 4 years ago
According to the Kardeshev scale civilizations can be tracked in development through analyzing the means in which they consume their energy, for example our civilization is type 0 as we use less than the total amount of available energy on the planet. A type 2 utilizes the energy of an entire sun. If that green thing is a ufo it makes sense that it would be able to manipulate the suns' radiance.
inphlux 4 years ago
To me that makes more sense than some Divine miracle, but then again I am spiritual and not religious
inphlux 4 years ago
why would anyone record the sun if there isn't anything to see with naked eye?
i know that this clip is done with intention to record what is seen by eye...
bobiMC 4 years ago
sure, and you know how many eyebrows loser president Bush has too, i`m sure. dumbass. you haven`t been there, and your post makes you look like a total idiot. then post a video of your own and do the same thing ???? let me know when you`re done.
americanguy44 4 years ago
oops , sorry. wrong response. i`ll be good. disregard my statement.
americanguy44 4 years ago
no problem
bobiMC 4 years ago
sun miracle...lmao .. whats an eclipse then
sad fact is that the reflection of light of the camera lens makes the sun seem like its blinking what a miracle.. thank god this guy had a shitty camera or else there would be no miracle... lmfao
gensoholicar 4 years ago
sure, you know it all. been there ? post the same thing then on youtube !!!!!! we`re waiting !!!!
americanguy44 4 years ago
c`mon. Get out there and record the same thing on video, smartie. when you do, I`ll apologize, until then, you are a dumbass.
americanguy44 4 years ago
looks like a UFO is flying around the sun
inphlux 4 years ago
@pagus & americanguy44, i deleted your little fight, please stick to the video commenting... there is no need for something like this
bobiMC 4 years ago
plz mentalraystuff explain to me how in the hell this is fake??
jellamo 4 years ago
by the Fatima skeptical thing I meant that many people were skeptical of the children's claims of the apparitions but they became believers during the sun miracle...
HercegBosna16 4 years ago
@Valexia....why would so many people lie...do you relaize that people who see the sun miracle
usually see it at the same time...it's usually in crowds with all kinds of different people from
different countries...the sun miracle also happened in Fatima with up to 70,000 people
who saw it...and many of them were skeptical.There is no explanation for the sun miracle
in Fatima except God give me any explanation you have for it I will show you that it is just
plain stupid.
HercegBosna16 4 years ago
@vihai....I REALLY doubt you went to Medjugorje...I want proof.
@pagus...yes we relaize the sun is the same everywhere on earth...that's the point of a miracle...
HercegBosna16 4 years ago
You should NOT doubt, you should believe. You should not ask for proofs! :)
Anyway... what's so strange in being in Medjugorje and seeing that disgraceful use of the religion beliefs to spill money from people?
vihai 4 years ago
Go and visit Medugorje yourselves.
smithpip 4 years ago
god needs to buy a new sun
animesucksballs35 4 years ago 2
The sun is dying xD
afawfa 4 years ago
Ever thought about Industrial Light and Magic, or Dreamworks?
Who are we, experts, to judge the credibility of the phenomenon from this or other vids? Computer effects do exist. So be there, look at it when it happens and if you see the orb then YES it's a miracle.
The "orb" moves only when the camera moves. And this doesn't mean there's no orb or there is one. That's what i'm saying. Could be fake but even if it was, this don't mean the phenomenon doesn't exist.
GShock112 4 years ago
Listen to the howls of protest from those who just don't want to believe. Anyone who claims they can get this result with their own camera at home better do it and post the result on YouTube IMMEDIATELY!
pbaylis1 4 years ago 2
Easy, point camera at sun, wave small thin object rapidly over lens, like a pen, a finger, a wooden ruler, the longer, thinner, and more rigid, the better.
VelexiaHaven 4 years ago
Easy to say it. Go and actually do it and show the results on here.
pbaylis1 4 years ago
I'll let someone else do it. I've already given myself a good laugh over this hoax. Old news. If you're still convinced that the sun flashes only for "certain people [i.e. no one]" and you just happen to not be one of those people [like everyone else in the world], then have fun swimming in your ignorance.
VelexiaHaven 4 years ago
Yeah, right VelexiaHaven. How absurd your statement is.
americanguy44 4 years ago
Lol you tards, its the same fucking sun all over the world, why would Medjugorje be any different? except you prolly have shit cameras there and survive from eating sand which makes you dillusional..... tards, just like saying "the moon in belgia is blue and smell of strawberries!"
pagus85 4 years ago
That's why it's a miracle. Praise God!
pbaylis1 4 years ago
Someone should wash your filthy mouth out with soap. You need to be desanitized. this is the sun of everyday, really ???? Quit acting dumb. and quit playing on the computer, your mom wants you in bed.
americanguy44 4 years ago
it's great to share with others stories of medjugorje and its many graces.
EarlofTyrone1607 4 years ago
People will never believe this on camera but it does happen...any atheist who goes to Medjugorje does not come back an atheist.
HercegBosna16 4 years ago 2
I am an atheist, I went to Medjugorje and I came back much more atheist than I was.
vihai 4 years ago
then you`re mind is closed. open it and get the cobwebs out.
americanguy44 4 years ago
If someone does not agree with you then he is mind closed? LOL
vihai 4 years ago
OMG..whatever! This is NOT a miracle, I've gotten the same result video-taping the sun numerous times.
RockinFallenAngel 4 years ago
OMgosh im going to Medjugorje soon i hope i see one of the amazing miracles... also when Mother Mary visits what time does she visit at?
LUVu4Ever1212121 4 years ago
Why do nto send this video to the News Group in different countries in the wrold?Othere people deserve to know these miracles too
dmokri 4 years ago
that "dot" looks a lot like and moves like a spirit orb. I have noticed this orb in almost every sun miracle video. I am wondering what is the correlation...
scotlegranail 4 years ago
that "dot" or "spirit orb" looks like a host or an altar bread.
gbanana 4 years ago
The correlation is that the "dot" is an internal reflex in the optics due to the superbright input from the sun. This abundance of photons also causes the CCD's to overflow of charge, which confuses the cameras auto-exposure, making it "blink".
Basically, buy a new camera and give up religion.
mentalraystuff 4 years ago 2
If you check other sun phenomena videos in Medjugorje, they all appear a spot of light independent from sun.
gardenalien 4 years ago
Nice vid. Is the little yellow dot a flare from the camera lens? or it was part of the miracle?
mencho78 4 years ago
it looks like that this yellow dot moves independently, it doesn't follow the sun or movement of camera, so i wouldn't say that it is a flare...
i was not there when this happened, i just uploaded this video, it's been filmed by mobile phone, by a family friend, so i can't say if the dot was a part of the miracle or not
bobiMC 4 years ago
The dot is exactly at the opposite side of the sun wrt to the center so yes, it is a normal, usual, boring flare.
vihai 4 years ago
are you that fucking dumb, man ??? THAT is NOT the normal sun you idiot. typical atheist. Go to an atheist website and post your Bullshit there. freak.
americanguy44 4 years ago
You are the typical boring arrogant religious freak. Christian tolerance my ass...
You should be ashamed of yourself, sinner.
vihai 4 years ago
Anch'io l'ho visto. Il tuo e quelli del MovimentoGospa sono fenomenali.
ultimogiorno 4 years ago
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