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  • if fencing was acually like that.

  • Power was handsome as hell, but Rathbone was better swordsman

  • In those days film fencing was very good. Errol Flynn, Stewart Granger and others also did fine.

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  • Great fight. I do think that Inigo and Westley got better lines, though.

  • This actually looks like a true sword fight! As a fencer this is amazing to watch.

  • This is truly fascinating! This is the time wherein fight scenes were not much given importance! I truly admire the skills of these actors. They are the actors themselves, not some stunt double.

  • Great fencing! But the colorization of this original B&W film is abominable.

  • I love how even the music quietens when the fight begins, as if to say "Let's all be quiet and watch these two amazing professionals..."

  • Awe-Some!

  • `Lolita Quintero` (Linda Darnell) who you credited at the end of your clip wasn`t even in this scene, you popinjay! `Captain Esteban Pasquale` (Basil Rathbone) was.

  • i love how they are about to kill each other, but they are so polite about it...

  • GRADE UFFFFFFFF QUE BUENA PELEA Fencing

  • Ok I fence sabre and I gotta say this is probably the best scene of sword fighting I have ever seen. Movies nowadays they are too concerned with things like running up stairs while fighting and other BS. True swordfighting like this is specticle enough without adding BS matrix type moves (YES NEW 3 MUSKETEERS IM CALLIN YOU OUT!!!)

  • lol 3:37 - gay sex joke?

  • lmao 1:38 part. hilarious! "Haha" Classic male phallic showing off "It's how you use it that counts"

  • ah, I suppose sabre is a bit more practical than foil IRL, and much faster so it's more exciting to watch.

  • I did fencing at school last week. It was AWESOME. Thought I had this special-grip sword in my hand at first which made my hand hurt (and eventually lose my sword). But when I got the good one I totally beat most of my friends!

  • There is only one fencing master in my book that is Zorro/Tyrone Power....such wonderful chorography was displayed by Tyrone Power & by Basil Rathbone. Such skill was demonstrated on the screen between the two actors....People don't realize & appreciate the art of fencing and when it is done right!!

  • My question is why were they fencing saber like eppe with saber target area?

  • I've spent the last several hours going through swordfights from movies of youtube. This is easily the best I've found so far.

  • Ahhhhh......the childhood memories! Zorro was my childhood hero.

  • Does anybody know the particular fencing sword they used? I mean, is it a rapier or can you give the name of the sword type used?

    AND

    Does anyone know the boots Zorro/Diego wears in this scene? Or the type of boot, what it would be called?

  • @QuartBernstein they used sabres

  • fencing = better than kendo

  • in 1940? its amazing...

  • Excellent fight scene. Was just looking up professional fencing and stumbled across this. Such a good find.

  • Stabbed him right in the heart for one moment there i thought it was real!!!!

  • A movie or not...how can they really be that fast to dock each other's attacks?

  • @Damaskox im 80% sure its fast-forwarded fighting footage

  • That was exhilarating. o.o

  • dude badass!

  • This is the greatest screen sword fight ever!!! No arguments! No discussion! It is what it is!

  • Excellent choreography, dialogue, camera, and performance by the actors. An excellent scene for the ages.

  • Luis: Are you all right, Diego?

    Diego: Ask the Capitan!

    LMAO priceless!

  • DAMN THAT WAS A GOOD FIGHT!!

  • which one is the hero?

  • @vulkancorax the one that won

  • Tyrone used fewer drugs than Flynn .

  • This was AWESOME!

    

  • BEST FIGHT SCENE EVER

  • I have this movie ..both in black and white and color!

  • This movie was a considerable input to me to take fencing lessons)))

  • sabre, foil or épée?

    and i'd watch more, if I wasn't late for my sabre group. XD

  • Basil Rathbone was a big guy, but you will notice just how fast he could move when he wanted to. He displayed in this scene more energetic nimbleness than Power did, but then we see Rathbone here at his speciality!

  • This was actual fencing, Basil Rathbone is forever asociated with Sherlock Holmes, but he was one of the best fencing actors in Hollywood, maybe Erroll Flynn was only better.

  • @45corleone Rathbone was a world class fencer in real life.

  • @fred5399 the fact that Basil said that Tyrone could fence circles around Erroll Flynn is high praise indeed

  • @45corleone actually, he said, "Tyrone could have fenced Errol Flynn into a cocked hat."

  • "The capitan's blade is not too firm" "Still firm enough to run you through" SEX JOKE.

  • They dont need close up camera shots to look like there fighting good like todays movies. Its all far you can see everything crisp and clear.

  • omg, nothing in 2010 has anything on this

  • it looks like theyre using sabres with epee blades or something

  • Basil Rathbone, a fencing expert, was quoted as saying Tyrone Power was the most athletic actor he had ever worked with..

  • i fencing and the foodwork is lol

  • @nouleukhoor

    The footwork has been greatly revolutionized during the last decades. Speed of the legs are today of bigger concern than at the time of the shooting, where a modern fencer would be considered non-robust. If something is lol, then it would be your english.

  • rofl what an old movie. oh man this is fucking hilarious when the guy got stabbed i yelled "LOL HES DEAD!!"

  • You actually YELLED "LOL"? Wow. Most people just... you know... laugh.

    I hope despite this being an old movie, you can still appreciate the badass swordfight. They don't make them like this anymore.

  • Basil Rathbone was amazing!!!!

  • I knew Rathbone was an expert swordsman, but Power seems equally good. If power had a stand-in, it doesn't show.

  • Power was doubled in some shots by their fencing instructor to keep up with Rathbone...

  • look at that footwork

  • awesomeeeeee

  • 60 years later, and this fight is still the best sword fight ever. Bar none.

  • @Primevals33

    what are your thoughts on scaramouche with stuart granger?

  • @Primevals33 You and 26 other people don't know how to count.

  • power is incredible...what eyes!....amazing

  • Good stuff. Scenes like this were the inspiration for insult combat in the 'Monkey Island' games

  • the last fencing fight in the motion picture Scaramouche is also awesome

  • amazing fight sceen

  • Greatest duel ever! I loved Basil as Captain Pasquale. Everyone hates the villian, and I doubt anyone would admit this but I would loved to have been the Captain and wear those great boots and get run through by Zorro!

  • Rathbone was amazing, he specifically wore those boots to accentuate his lunges.

  • This scene in Zorro is a classic!!! Marvelous!!!

  • This looks amazing, although no real fencer could parry attacks for that long.

  • I agree, that's why it is best to not drag out a real fight.

  • And, the visual poetry of Pasquale, upon being skewered by Zorro, when falling to the ground, he pulls the lady's portait down off the wall, and unmasks the "Z" etched on the wall during one of Zorro's earlier escapades. What a magnificent ending! Pasquale is he villain you love to hate, and Zorro risks his life to rid the Earth of this odious vermin. A beautifully staged and acted scene! The best sword fight in cinema history!

  • I've already spoken to the build up to this climactic scene. Zorro is given a sword he's never used before. He does a better job of cutting the candle. Pasquale cuts first blood but is defeated. Pasquale has a bad tendency to fly his sword up and to the right when he misses contact wih the opponent's sword. Zorro sees this weakness & uses it against him. These are real actors, fencing wth real swords. Either one could lose an eye or hand. It's a teriffic scene from a wonderul movie.

  • I heartily agree this is the finest sword fight in cinema history, not only because both actors were accomplished fencers, not only because the scene was wonderfully choreographed, but for a dozen other reasons. The fact that Rathbone is so vile a villain, showing off what a hotshot swordsman he thinks he is, right from the early scenes of the movie, that it's so, SO satisfying to see him skewered in the end! It's the build up to this climax, throughout the movie, that makes it the best. Bravo!

  • Wow! ...God, they're good.

  • Basil Rathbone in real life life was an excellent fencing master. He took his fencing skills seriously and began fencing lessons from the age of 18. He was better than Errol Flynn, Tyrone Power and many others. Unfortunately for Rathbone he often played the villain and had to lose the sword duels on the screen. The Zorro duel between Rathbone and Tyrone Power was choreographed by Fred Cravens. Albert Cravens (Fred;s Son) was reported to double for Tyrone Powers in these fencing scenes.

  • This is my new favorite movie sword fight. Was it done in real-time or were speed effects used in post production?

  • where the hell did u get this in color??

  • I think I got this from Amazon : ) !

  • "I must please ask you to change the subject. His Excellency objects to talk of throat-cutting." LOL!! :D

    And my personal favorite: "I needed that scratch to awaken me!" :D

    And, of course, you've gotta love Diego slicing the candle in half without making it move. Pure talent. :)

  • Incredible.

  • Tyrone Power, according to Basil Rathbone, who taught fencing, said Power was the BEST FENCER in the world surpassing Errol Flynn

  • Coming from Rathbone that's high praise!

  • Very well coreographed. Thanks for the upload, mellow0w

  • i'm 17 and tyrone is thee most handsome man ever and he was a great actor you'll never see the likes of him walking down the street because they just don't make men like this anymore i just adore ty.

  • lol nice. fencing used to settle everything years ago :o

  • MmMmMm Diego

  • 1940? Great. Doesn't look that old and it's really good.

  • I might be tempted *blink* If I had a weapon *blink* *blink* XD

  • There's a blink before he starts talking XD!

  • Ok ^^

  • Just saying........  :(

  • Just saying Ok ^^

  • Yes, completely breathtaking; not just in the exceptional swordplay, but in the virtuoso performance. Despite the quips and reparte, Rathbone and Power honestly look like they are trying to kill one another. Never surpassed.

  • Would have liked to have seen more feints, and some parts it was made very obvious it was fast fowarded... but besides that, excellent form and flow, and i wish today's sword fights could be of the same caliber.

  • I agree; in modern films, swordfights (and fight scenes in general) are more about petty spectacle than realism (which for a moviegoer is more rewarding to see); this is one of the more realistic fights I've seen.

  • Well, I don't think this is realistic. For starters, there still had to be some exageration of movement, although I they didn't go overboard. Second, it lasted way to long. These things tend to be over quickly. Second, while there were some situations where these guys fought from uncoventional stances (on the floor, on the stairs, etc.), and occasionally pushed each other, the fight didn't turn dirty. However, I bet the actors must have had a good fencing background.

  • Yes, they both had fencing backgrounds. Tyrone Power had started training from his actress-mother as a child, and had progressed from there.

    I don't know about the un-realism of the fight though, mate. I recall reading in a book on cinema that this fight was judged to be one of the most realistic fencing duels ever filmed. But I guess it's just a matter of opinion. :-)

  • I guess I could be wrong. But I am thinking "fight" instead of 'fencing". This really does look like fencing techniqe and I guess that in that respect it would be realistic (though the time question is still an issue, I think, several minutes?). I am sure that they had to exagerate some movements for the camera since the better the bladework, the more subtle it is. My point (no pun intended) is that as a fight, hostile situation where people are intent on killing each other, it is not realistic.

  • Ah! I see what you mean now.

  • Well fencing did derive from dueling, and I'm sure that duels in uncommon areas would call for slightly uncommon duels, so long as the lines of honor were respected. This is probably as close as a movie could get being historically accurate and acknowledging fencing mechanics simultaneously. Not parrying your comments, if I was in anyway, it would be less than the intention of adding thoughts.

  • I think it is realistic that the fight stayed clean. Especially for the time period, people tried to fight honorably when duelling (even to weird excesses, like the turn-based duel in Barry Lyndon). Considering how proud the Captain was about his fencing, he probably preferred to keep it clean and show off from the beginning. By the time he tried to get dirty, he was too tired (only managing a scratch) and Diego could put him on the defensive against the wall and finish him.

  • turn based duel? are we talking swords or firearms? I can't imagine a turned based swordfight, but a turned based firearm makes sense.

  • I am surprised that neither carried at least a dagger, but that would be more authentic.

  • correct. but than again authentic duels never lasted very long. movie duels are always meant to entertain the audience.

  • I agree, and in the real duels they would have a second weapon, like a dagger.

  • No sir, that's not a matter of opinion! It's hands down the finest fencing match in cinema history. Rathbone and Power were "golden" stars in their day. These were real actors, not stunt doubles, that performed this magnificent scene! Either one could have lost a hand, an eye or a finger performing it. We all loved Obe Wan Knobbe in Star Wars, but their blades were surreal. Tyrone Power and Basil Rathbone performed the real deal and will remain the best staged actor swordfight of all time.

  • ahh from the time then they used fencing in movies... today it's mostly film fencing.

  • This is by far the best "Zorro" movie ever made. Dashing Tyrone Power is superb as Don Diego de la Vega and the definitive "Zorro". His outstanding performance surpassed that of Douglas Fairbanks Sr. in 1920, who was great nonetheless, and (no offence ... Mr.Banderas) he is still unmatched.

    As for the climax swordfight between Power and Rathbone, maybe it's the greatest movie fencing duel ever.

  • this is actually one of the best movie fencing scenes i have ever seen!!! better then any other movie......actually looks like a sabre bout...just a little long...lol

  • that's probably the sloppiest Z i've ever seen lol

  • Nice to see someone using the italian sabre school instead of the modern hungarian :]

  • i am also a fencer. this is a great demonstration. In the REAL sport, it may not look like this, but if u strive towards it, it CAN look like this. but it takes years of training to getting all the parries and correct strikes. but anyways, thx for sharing this, great stuff man. :D 5/5

  • Why can't fight scenes like this be staged anymore. It seems like action actors of today can't play it even with all stunt choreographers around. blecch!

  • What impresses me about this clip is how exciting it was be stage in one room. Now days directors feel they must have there characters fighting up stairs, down alleys, and across town for the scene to have an impact. This was breath taking and it never left the room.

  • Friend, this is indeed one breathtaking duel done in one room. One movie that did another intense fight scene, this time done using one big auditorium, was between Mel Ferrer and Stewart Granger in SCARAMOUCHE. This was also one heckuva duel.

  • as a fencer im impressed by how much traditional fencing is interpreted into this.

    bravo!!

  • I have no reason for letting you live, well, Capitant, I feel the same way about you.

    Great Movie

  • Very nice coeography! Very nice indeed!

  • best scene ever!!!

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