You must of been pleased to have done this by dry blasting as opposed to wet. Trying to clean it with presol prior to painting would of been a nightmare.
@FormulaVX The best answer is.. I do not know without touching it. We had a formula package in our shop last year. As you know it is VERY delicate. Yes soda blasting was taking off the paint BUT we were exposing pinholes that the owner was going to have to deal with and that was going to be time intensive. We decided to shoot the entire surface with soda to HAZE the surface breaking the glaze. That gave him good surface to adhere to but minimized the body work. So a Qaulifed Yes.
@MsCODEM Soda blasting is a softer material @2.5 Mohs hardness. Soda blasting will take off a coating and retard the forming of flash rusting. Glass blasting is more aggressive than soda blasting and will take off rust. Glass blasting uses harder material and cuts more sharply @5.5 Mohs hardness. For our purposes, glass blasting uses a #30 screen size or smaller at pressures less than 100 PSI and as low as 25 PSI.
@MsCODEM We use a lot of #70 and #100 screen size. That means we can really control the cut and the surface erosion better than regular sand blasting type operations. We generally use glass for car stripping now. With our control systems, we do not hurt the sheet metal.
@MsCODEM Sand blasting is generally done at 100 PSI or over and use material that is a larger grit size and with more hardness up to 9.5 Mohs such as aluminum oxide. You should not attempt to strip a car with sand blasting type of material or blast pressure.
Looks great! This may be what we need to redo our old car. Our compressor is rated at 6.1 CFM @ 40 psi and 4.7 CFM @ 90 psi. Is this sufficient? We'll check out your website. Do you have distributors in the Los Angeles area or are you direct to the consumer?
Me disculpo pero no hablo español. Estoy utilizando un Web site del traductor. La voladura de la soda quita el moho superficial de la pintura y de la luz. La soda no quitará moho regular o pesado. El metal tirado con soda no aherrumbrará por una semana o tan. La soda del Shooting con el aerosol de agua disminuirá el polvo y reducirá el corte de la soda por 20 o el 30% pero usted todavía necesita neutralizer
I would like to have seen some rusty or even slightly corroded metal being blasted. I mean, that sheet metal was really nice for an older car under the sealer.
There is only a very small section of this video that shows soda removing paint from metal. Soda does not remove heavy or scaly rust, it will only clean it. Soda will remove surface rust only. The H250 Series blast pots can also use crushed glass or garnet to do the heavy cleaning on the surfaces you mention. The H250 Series blast pots are the only pots in production that can use soft or hard, light or heavy blast media effectively. They use tungsten carbide components in the metering area.
That makes sense; a medium that leaves that kind of RA likely wouldn't remove rust. I would love to have some blasting equipment that lasts longer. I go through many nozzles, jets, and guns.A tungsten-carbide option would be great. Thanks.
In the Detroit area, Jax Enter-Prizing can help you with your Soda Blasting needs. If you want just the media, I am the only supplier in this area to date. Ordering from any place else you pay high shipping cost. $35.00 per #50 bag is the cost from me and drive away! Call "JACK" 734-334-6828
This is false information. Also posting competitor advertising on your competitors site this way is in very poor taste. We have soda available and can normally deliver it to you for that same $35.00. So I would like to get the "Jack" off my site. This person looks like a typical garage business.
Nice old ride! Depends on a number of things such as number of layers of paint, type of paint, bondo (if any). Having said that, most full size exteriors can be stripped in an average of 6 to 10 hours.
It is about the equation "Mass in motion is energy." Soda blasting is a softer, lighter material and expends its energy ON the surface. Sand is harder and heavier and carries its energy INTO the surface which is the profile. The depth of the profile is the TOOTH.
As I stated in a previous post. The methodology shown here is for demo, not for production. It will indeed go faster in production BUT not a huge increase in square footage per hour. But what will happen is you cannot possibly hope to get in all the nooks and crannies that soda blasting can. I will give you a stripped vehicle, by hand will give you a flat surface and no recesses type of stripping. Make sense? I have sent you information in another email.
It is a restoration, the entire vehicle is to be repainted. This gives us a good surface for paint adhesion as well as we can see everything that is defective and repair it before time and materials are invested into applying a coating to a potentially defective surface.
you should remove this vid! You cant remove car paint in open air! Car paint of espacially older cars have a lot of LEAD in the paint, so, this is not a good idea! But, i like you blasters!!!!
a number of reasons really, firstly, to uncover previous "blog jobs" , secondly, if that is primer, maybe the primer was contaminated, and thirdly, it just gives the paint an over all better finish to remove all the paint.. and not just repair singular parts
@johanktm125 So that you have a clean, uniform surface to repaint. Often a car will have multiple paint jobs, merely sanding the top coat will leave the potential for negative interaction with the new paint, so taking the car down to a bare surface lets you get a better result and in restorations, you don;t want a car to look repainted, you want it to look new.
Our H250 Green Collar Series blasters can use all media whether it be soda or glass or any blast media. If there is rust on sheet metal we will use ultra fine crushed glass at low pressures to clean the affected area. We also use the crushed glass to clean frames, etc. Our machine has tungsten carbide components in the metering area so wear is not a problem. We can also blast as low as 25 PSI to control our impact velocity.
You are correct soda will not remove anything beyond a surface rust, no matter what pressure you are able to blast it with. We can get increased cleaning effect by using K2 potassium or Maxxstrip magnesium sulfate.
As was stated in the description, the intent of this video was to show a light coatings removal with the ability for layering if desired. It was not intended to be a complete training video. You are correct, this video does not show the actual production technique used for the majority of this cars. This video was shot with the hose/nozzle unsupported with my left hand while holding the camera in my right.
Having viewed your own videos, I see you are using a soda only machine, I also only see one nozzle being used where the appropriate technique seeming to be to hold the hose over your head and spray the surface. I also question the complete lack of Personal Protective Equipment for your shooter.
You must of been pleased to have done this by dry blasting as opposed to wet. Trying to clean it with presol prior to painting would of been a nightmare.
MRBCP1 1 month ago
does this get the car back to bare metal?
Predator2169 5 months ago
This is pretty cool
BorgieBabyxx 6 months ago
Is this safe to use on painted carbon fibre? I have a race car with several layers of paint.
FormulaVX 1 year ago
@FormulaVX The best answer is.. I do not know without touching it. We had a formula package in our shop last year. As you know it is VERY delicate. Yes soda blasting was taking off the paint BUT we were exposing pinholes that the owner was going to have to deal with and that was going to be time intensive. We decided to shoot the entire surface with soda to HAZE the surface breaking the glaze. That gave him good surface to adhere to but minimized the body work. So a Qaulifed Yes.
EcoSodaBlaster 11 months ago
that would be cool to look at if u were high...
senoirjack 1 year ago
the glassblasting make the same work? whats the diference between sodablaster, sandblastind and glassblasting.
the glass does not hurts the metal sheet like a sand blast
but whats better to eliminate the rust and dont hurt the metal??
sorry but i dont speak english so well :D
MsCODEM 1 year ago
@MsCODEM Soda blasting is a softer material @2.5 Mohs hardness. Soda blasting will take off a coating and retard the forming of flash rusting. Glass blasting is more aggressive than soda blasting and will take off rust. Glass blasting uses harder material and cuts more sharply @5.5 Mohs hardness. For our purposes, glass blasting uses a #30 screen size or smaller at pressures less than 100 PSI and as low as 25 PSI.
EcoSodaBlaster 1 year ago
@MsCODEM We use a lot of #70 and #100 screen size. That means we can really control the cut and the surface erosion better than regular sand blasting type operations. We generally use glass for car stripping now. With our control systems, we do not hurt the sheet metal.
EcoSodaBlaster 1 year ago
@MsCODEM Sand blasting is generally done at 100 PSI or over and use material that is a larger grit size and with more hardness up to 9.5 Mohs such as aluminum oxide. You should not attempt to strip a car with sand blasting type of material or blast pressure.
EcoSodaBlaster 1 year ago
that looks like so much fun.... like a super soaker
addyshinobi 1 year ago 4
Looks fun. wayofthemaster Is a great site, no I'm not spam
sluggo06 2 years ago
Looks great! This may be what we need to redo our old car. Our compressor is rated at 6.1 CFM @ 40 psi and 4.7 CFM @ 90 psi. Is this sufficient? We'll check out your website. Do you have distributors in the Los Angeles area or are you direct to the consumer?
wowsera 2 years ago
i do this for a living u typically need a 185 cfm compressor at over 150psi so ... no yours is not
knocklebockle1010 2 years ago
@knocklebockle1010 So my 40 pound 90 PSI portable soda blaster is woefully inadequate then?
superjump01 1 year ago
whining guitar 0 stars
quickieflyer 2 years ago 5
muchas gracias por la info unas preguntas mas el soda blasting quita el oxido y en cuanto tienpo terminaste el corvette de quitar la pintura
Apatzingenses 2 years ago
Me disculpo pero no hablo español. Estoy utilizando un Web site del traductor. La voladura de la soda quita el moho superficial de la pintura y de la luz. La soda no quitará moho regular o pesado. El metal tirado con soda no aherrumbrará por una semana o tan. La soda del Shooting con el aerosol de agua disminuirá el polvo y reducirá el corte de la soda por 20 o el 30% pero usted todavía necesita neutralizer
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
cuantas libras de arena se gasta en 1 hora
Apatzingenses 2 years ago
Aproximadamente 60 a 75 libras sobre 1 hora
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
I would like to have seen some rusty or even slightly corroded metal being blasted. I mean, that sheet metal was really nice for an older car under the sealer.
chompychomps 2 years ago
There is only a very small section of this video that shows soda removing paint from metal. Soda does not remove heavy or scaly rust, it will only clean it. Soda will remove surface rust only. The H250 Series blast pots can also use crushed glass or garnet to do the heavy cleaning on the surfaces you mention. The H250 Series blast pots are the only pots in production that can use soft or hard, light or heavy blast media effectively. They use tungsten carbide components in the metering area.
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
That makes sense; a medium that leaves that kind of RA likely wouldn't remove rust. I would love to have some blasting equipment that lasts longer. I go through many nozzles, jets, and guns.A tungsten-carbide option would be great. Thanks.
chompychomps 2 years ago
how is You Tube YOUR site. You are not in the Detroit Area and I am doing just what you are doing. Jack
jwillwon 2 years ago
In the Detroit area, Jax Enter-Prizing can help you with your Soda Blasting needs. If you want just the media, I am the only supplier in this area to date. Ordering from any place else you pay high shipping cost. $35.00 per #50 bag is the cost from me and drive away! Call "JACK" 734-334-6828
jwillwon 2 years ago
This is false information. Also posting competitor advertising on your competitors site this way is in very poor taste. We have soda available and can normally deliver it to you for that same $35.00. So I would like to get the "Jack" off my site. This person looks like a typical garage business.
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
Nice old ride! Depends on a number of things such as number of layers of paint, type of paint, bondo (if any). Having said that, most full size exteriors can be stripped in an average of 6 to 10 hours.
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
I have a 63 riviera, about how long does it take to strip...?
cadiwhite73 2 years ago
what the diference between soda and sand blasting
dsgballer 2 years ago
It is about the equation "Mass in motion is energy." Soda blasting is a softer, lighter material and expends its energy ON the surface. Sand is harder and heavier and carries its energy INTO the surface which is the profile. The depth of the profile is the TOOTH.
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
It looks slow..can you make any money? JC
detroitbluesguy 2 years ago
As I stated in a previous post. The methodology shown here is for demo, not for production. It will indeed go faster in production BUT not a huge increase in square footage per hour. But what will happen is you cannot possibly hope to get in all the nooks and crannies that soda blasting can. I will give you a stripped vehicle, by hand will give you a flat surface and no recesses type of stripping. Make sense? I have sent you information in another email.
EcoSodaBlaster 2 years ago
why does he remove all the paint is is not rusty
johanktm125 3 years ago
It is a restoration, the entire vehicle is to be repainted. This gives us a good surface for paint adhesion as well as we can see everything that is defective and repair it before time and materials are invested into applying a coating to a potentially defective surface.
EcoSodaBlaster 3 years ago
you should remove this vid! You cant remove car paint in open air! Car paint of espacially older cars have a lot of LEAD in the paint, so, this is not a good idea! But, i like you blasters!!!!
ihavenoidea3000 3 years ago
a number of reasons really, firstly, to uncover previous "blog jobs" , secondly, if that is primer, maybe the primer was contaminated, and thirdly, it just gives the paint an over all better finish to remove all the paint.. and not just repair singular parts
bloodreighn 2 years ago
@johanktm125 So that you have a clean, uniform surface to repaint. Often a car will have multiple paint jobs, merely sanding the top coat will leave the potential for negative interaction with the new paint, so taking the car down to a bare surface lets you get a better result and in restorations, you don;t want a car to look repainted, you want it to look new.
mortyok3 1 year ago
Our H250 Green Collar Series blasters can use all media whether it be soda or glass or any blast media. If there is rust on sheet metal we will use ultra fine crushed glass at low pressures to clean the affected area. We also use the crushed glass to clean frames, etc. Our machine has tungsten carbide components in the metering area so wear is not a problem. We can also blast as low as 25 PSI to control our impact velocity.
EcoSodaBlaster 3 years ago
too bad sodablasting doesnt remove rust
RNAGENETICS1 3 years ago
You are correct soda will not remove anything beyond a surface rust, no matter what pressure you are able to blast it with. We can get increased cleaning effect by using K2 potassium or Maxxstrip magnesium sulfate.
EcoSodaBlaster 3 years ago
this is my new favorite tool!
manuelbou 3 years ago
Hello:
Great job!! I like the video. It show very much.
Bye
Nicolás, of Argentina
nicoleetoo 3 years ago
excellent work
enfieldpolice 3 years ago
GOOD JOB THE BEST ON YOUTUBE
batiburro 3 years ago
A clarification.
As was stated in the description, the intent of this video was to show a light coatings removal with the ability for layering if desired. It was not intended to be a complete training video. You are correct, this video does not show the actual production technique used for the majority of this cars. This video was shot with the hose/nozzle unsupported with my left hand while holding the camera in my right.
EcoSodaBlaster 4 years ago
I would not be proud of that video. Poor technique and nozzle selection. I would like to have felt the fiberglass when it was done.
busterblastereast 4 years ago
Having viewed your own videos, I see you are using a soda only machine, I also only see one nozzle being used where the appropriate technique seeming to be to hold the hose over your head and spray the surface. I also question the complete lack of Personal Protective Equipment for your shooter.
Thanks for stopping by though.
EcoSodaBlaster 4 years ago
My guys usually wear PPE. On that day, the wind was about 25 mph to Mike's back. He did wear a respirator on the other side of the car.
busterblastereast 4 years ago
Nice work John, what equitment do u use?
Cheers Iain, Marine Blast (Scotland)
MarineBlast 4 years ago
Thank you. I use our All-Media H250 series blast pot.
EcoSodaBlaster 4 years ago