Why do christians all choose to ignore the stuff about tolerance, love and forgiveness and just concentrate on gay bashing and right-wing politics, I don't understand. Shouldn't they all be volunteering at homeless shelters and giving their money to charity?
Christians need to let the world know what the gospel says about sin & being without natural affection.Romans chapter 1:vers.18-32; gay people will not make it to heaven. And no there want be a gay church; it will just be a building full of hell bound people.God didn't bend the rules; he has allways gave the world 2 choices do or die.
I always find it fascinating when Christians speak about the "truth". Wot is truth? Wot makes a claim "true"? Because a book says so? Because u interpreted it out from the book? Because u have faith on it? These Christians (anti or pro-gay) should be honest enough 2 recognize there's no epistemological value on the claims of theology or in exegesis of books that contradict each other on a plethora of subjects. BTW, the 1st guy is kinda cute & YUP. He's still gay & in denial. Poor dude.
#2. Women are working outside of the home, and in the Bible, that is not allowed. Women working outside of the home would cause abandonment of children and husbands. Like I stated before, I think we, as a society, has evolved, with God's grace, now I understand that all people, all races, all cultures, all sexualities is of equal value. Much Love Forum, Peace:)
I am a Christian and God is first in my life. In the past, I was homophobic and angry. Now, I understand that all people are of value. That all sexualities is a gift (consenting adults) and is about of our human experiences. In the past, Slaves were considered property and should not marry. Because marriage of slaves was an abombination and would lead to societal chaos. Women have rewritten the Bible, and refuse to say the word 'obey' in marriage vows. Women are working outside of the home
Look, there are other more important things that need to be discussed that's going on in this world then worrying about two human beings that are loving each other and are not stealing from American's and telling us at the same time that the world is in trouble because of a debt we had nothing to do with. Get it
Isaiah 5:20 WOE! to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Gay Bullying is illegal in New York, if you homophobic, I can get you put in prison. Homophobia = a preventable Hate-Crime.
Free Speech is NOT Hate-Speech.
Don't hate me because I'm gay, I enjoy being gay, so YOU hate me for it?
Proud Heterophobic GayThug, if you dont like my advances, ain't my problem, but dont lay yo bigoted Gay-Hate on me, I can't help it I'm attracted to boyz.
Anti-Gay crimes on the rise, the murder of gays in the US must stop NOW!
2 of these pastors twisting the truth to make a lifesyle fit. Rev.21:1-8, heaven and earth is going to pass away, that includes the flesh too! WHAT IN HELL DO WE WANT? There's no way out of hell! If whomever makes it to hell, tell hell"I AINT COMING"!
Now Pastor Foster is right on with what he said about about women who committed adultery and JESUS telling the women to Go and sin no more. The other brotha who calls himself a pastor is a not being or telling the truth. And who is he to tell pastor Foster who can pastor Foster was called to reach.
Now Pastor Foster is right on with what he said about about women who committed adultery and JESUS telling the women to Go and sin no more. The other brotha who calls himself a pastor is a not being or telling the truth. And who is he to tell pastor Foster who can pastor Foster was called to reach. He ain't God? but that's what folks who embrace sin do! Is tell lies and justifies their positions even if it means watering down Gods word. Holla G'S 4 CHRIST.
if you listen to Dr. Martin she as ways said "if I" and not "If God" because if she would have said that she would have spoken against her homosexual life style. Also, when Meredith's son came to him and told him that he was a homosexual he only said "thats OK with me", but he didn't say if "GOD WAS OK". I could see on the face of Rev Foster, who was the only real Preacher on the Panel, that he was thinking that these two supposed to be preachers are in real trouble. & THEY WILL FACE GOD IN SIN.
Have you ever heard X-rated books and movies by saying the bible has the same kind of stories. Like this one in (Judges 19) Its got homosexuality, gang rape, even the cutting up of a dead body. Hey its just like todays films. There is one difference tho X-rated books and movies cater to passion. The bibles real ife stories underline how terrible these sins are.Todays books, films, sitcoms ect try and make sin glamorous. The bible shows sin for what it really is. Read Judges 19
Why do people find "Gay churches"?.. its not so they will be "accepted" Its so they can live comfortably in there sinful lifestyle and not told its wrong and to repent of it because the leadership is also openly living in it so who are you to tell me its wrong its "hypocrisy" is all it is. If you do not acknowledge it as sin which its clearly sin then you simply want to go be with the world and its pleasures and not follow Christ and his word so go be with the world.
@yisdissohard Matthew 15:19 Jesus addresses fornication which is anything sexual immoral which is adultery, sex before marriage, homosexuality exc anything outside the confines of marriage between one man and one women joined together in one flesh that is what fornication is and a sin. God designed marriage he has the copy right we do not have the right to go in and change what Gods standards are. Matthew 19 Jesus speaks on marriage, divorce and Celebacy also.
What amazes me is that each Pastor took it to the scropture and did not rely solely on emotion. In fact the female pastor used historical, linguistic and cultural FACT tosupport her points as relate to the scripture. She has not come to her conclusions based on emotion or personal interpretation but FACT. This BREEDS holines and DOES perta to GODLINESS. That is awesome!
first off for people who are saying they're born this way.... it doesnt matter because jesus said YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!!!! and no one is born gay. That is a deception to make homos believe its ok to be gay
Wait. What?? he was gay? I couldn't even listen to that. Honey, you are STILL gay. You just practice a heterosexual lifestyle. I am sorry you hate yourself so much and cant' understand the grace of God is BIGGER than your own self-hatred.
The standard of God's word is not predicated on human feelings or conditions! God is not concerned with what is comfortable for us in our humanism. God does not care about how an individual was born or what their natural inclinations are, for I recall Jesus himself stating in the Garden of Gesemity, "Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done." If it be not robbery for our Christ to submit his will to the will of God, what excuse do we hav
God is HOLY, but people don't want to live up to HIS standards, they want to live sinfully, and they want God's stamp of approval. PEOPLE, we are to live up to HIS standards, it's not the other way around. He is a HOLY GOD, and we are a sinful human race, from the time of Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. READ the BIBLE stop following fables of the Devil.
@zybotsu001 - Christianity teaches that you must be born again. Why is being born again important?....And what is Christianity all about? Because we are all born in sin with a sin nature we must be born again. Just like I was a fornicator before I meant Christ..When I recieved Christ as my savior...I might have still fornicated but I knew it was out of the will of God. Christ justified me, Now I'm in the state of sancification. "CHANGE"..Our minds must start transformer to the will of God!
To tell you the truth...this is causing more HATE than LOVE.
You guys shunning homosexuality are homophobic , and selectively choosing laws from the bible...while ignoring the tons of other laws that shun adulterers, rude children , unclean foods etc!
Bible teaches that we shall know the truth and the truth shall make us free. As a result of the fall of Adam... sin entered into the world. We all are born in rebellion to God. Homosexality is the SIN nature that many people have just like many of us are liars, theives, and fornicators, etc.... But the Good News is that whom the Son has set free is FREE INDEED. If God can take a Paul who was a murderer and change him...He can change the heart of a homosexual. Many are being changed.
@PowerforLiving STFU........LEVITICUS also says you should put children to death if they curse their parents...It also says that you should stone a woman who is not a virgin at marriage. STOP selecting whatever rules you FEEL should apply!
Not only are homosexuals - homosexual men in particular - more likely to contract HIV/AIDS, when you compare stats from the CDC it looks like smoking is actually a safer activity than sodomy. Type "What's Worse - Smoking or Sodomy?" into your favorite search engine to read more. According to the CDC, men who have sex with men are diagnosed with HIV at a rate that is "44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women."
Greetings to you all In the name of Our Lord JESUS Christ! I am Brother "Thompson" From Endtime Pentecostal Church, Under the Leadership Prophet S.D. James! God Did not created for a man to be ith a man, or a woman to be with a woman! THE DEVIL IS A LIAR!!!!!! Its Anti Christ Spirit in the Church, confusing the mind of the people! God create Adam and Eve OKAY? Not Adam & Stevie!! Please seek for da Holy Ghost, In the last and evil days, their gonna be False Prophets!!!!!!
According to Jesus, marriage is ordained by God the Father to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Anything outside of God's ideal of marriage is fornication, which is a sin. Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage.
My two cents: when people call themselves christians, you hold up a banner or standard. You begin to let down that standard when you rebel against the Word of God. This statement is not for the unbeliever... but to the believers. We have to have a standard. In order to uphold that standard we must be obedient to the Word of the Lord. 1 Sam 15 :22-23
These black people use the word homophobia like jews use anti-semetic!! Get a grip! Just because people don't have the same views don't mean they hate you!! Geez!!
Homophobia! Oh my goodness! Again God did not make anyone Gay! If you say that then you make God out to be a liar and a sinner! In God there is no sin! That woman is crazy! Nature vs nurture!! is she crazy! God does not approve of homosexuality! Or adultery or stealing or lying there is a bunch more!
@idaman12345 God does not make people to sin! You know damn well that Homosexuality is wrong! Even people that are homosexuals know that they are doing wrong! Deep in their hearts they know! Now God has said that Homosexuality is an abomination! He would not create someone to be an abomination!
I am in now way saying that Gay people should be mistreated or discriminated against! I leave that judgment up to God! It is my duty to treat everyone the same!
@idaman12345 Lev 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is an abomination" that is where God said it!
No I do not support Gay marriage! I am not a proponent of Homosexuality! But at the same time I am going to treat the thief, the adulterer and the liar all the same!
Gays were not born that way! God did not make people to sin! You make God out to be a liar when you say that and you blaspheme greatly!
@idaman12345 Being Gay is wrong! immoral! Un-natural, Not normal! A grat sin! An abomination unto God!! homosexuals will have to take that up to him on judgment day!
@idaman12345 If you want to say the bible is false....I can deal with that! If you say there is no God then that is fine too! You dont believe THATS FINE!
However dont say being gay is right! there is nothing right about homosexuals!!
but since you dont believe in God it really does not matter! Be as Gay as you want!
@MsKia0302 #1 I am not a christian! #2 when did becoming a christian make it a standard for worshiping god?? You act as if being a christian is worshiping God!! The standard you speak has nothing to do with the pagan religion of christianity! The religion and the what the bible teaches are two different things. From the lies of christianity you get Christmas, Easter, The pagan cross, sunday worship and a host of other lies and scriptual errors. Chew on that and get back with me if u can!
THE POOR WOMAN IS DECEIVED!!!! AND SO IS THE MAN..THEY ARE NOT PASTORS ...THEY DONT KNOW WHAT SIN IS...AND THEY DENY THE WORD OF GOD...SURELY WE MUST LOVE THEM...BUT THEY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER WHEN THEY SAY THE TRUE PASTOR IS NOT TOLERANT..BECAUSE TOLERATION IS USED WHEN YOU DISAGREE NOT WHEN YOU AGREE...THAT FALSE BLACK PASTOR IN BLUE IS CONTRADICTING HIMSELF AND NOT TOLERATING THE TRUE REVEREND.....
A gay man wants to worship another man,God, Jesus DUH!!!! That's what there is so much homosexaulity in the Churches. The Black Church is a Greek social center... Worship is dead in all forms..
@blainebill39 It may seem absurd when don't research the facts. Constantine the Roman Emperor that adopted Christianity was a Homosexual. Even in the Bible it states King David loving Johnathan. Homosexuality is an underworld culture highly coveted in the Catholic Church for the most part. The Catholic Church and Jewish Clergy are revealing and are exposed for their homosexuality nowadays.
What kind of preachers are they??? There are so many scriptures that condemn the homosexual lifestyle. Just because you feel a certain way does not mean it was to be meant. We were born in sin so we have to find a way to commit to the way God wants us to be. If we are sexually immoral God is displeased...period! God loves us all but it does say he will condemn homosexuals to hell. Does it get anymore clear than that!!!!!
@thecovenantkeeper Yeah, I know. And it's a shame he is saying homosexuality is ok just because of his son. If you're a preacher you have an obligation to teach God's word and what it says. It doesn't matter what his son says he shouldn't still think it's ok. Shame on him.
@zybotsu001 First of all I know too well about what I say. If I didn't I would not say anything at all even if it is over the internet. And second, God Bless You!
@Davisjenai god bless you ...but u subliminally mean 'fuck you'. The bible condemns defiled brides, disobedient children, saying that they should be stoned. It also claims the world is 6000 years old, and that the world is 'flat'.There are a lot of falsities in the bible and people like you just choose to focus on homosexuality. HOMOPHOBES!
@zybotsu001 Umm, there is no falsities sweetheart. And I suggest you should understand the word of God more clearly before you make it out to be false. I understand the word of God to a point where I am to evangelize to others. If you do not agree with it oh well. I am not to shove it down your face we are to spread the word no matter what. I am not going to say anything so people can be comfortable in their sin. Sin is sin. Its not about ganging up on homosexuality. Its a sin & ppl should know.
@Davisjenai A sin? I've been gay since I was a little kid, i've always had this personality. I was born this way...GOD doesn't make mistakes, so are you saying that he made a mistake? Or are you going presumptuous and tell ME, that I wasn't born gay and it's a gay demon that was in me as a lil kid!
@zybotsu001 Yes, it is a sin. I'm not saying this to be mean or anything. Or to be a "Homophobe". It's a sin because when God created everything he said it was good. It was our rebellion towards God that made us corrupt. And we are even born in sin because of it.
@zybotsu001 Yes! You have a demon in you! That demon is deceiving you! making you think what you are doing is okay! Its called deception! the devils main tool! God did not make you or anyone Gay!
@ToWorshipHimintruth LMAO is the demon the reason I've donated thousands to charity, and is the demon the reason i'm a open-minded,kind, alturistic person. Well it must be a good demon then...wish everyone had it, the world would be a nicer place
@zybotsu001 Let me say this. I do not hate Gay people. We are all of the human family! I am speaking of the behavior that God himself said was acceptable and was not acceptable. The very same thing goes for a thief or a liar or a murderer. All I am saying is that if you want to be gay you have the free will to do so. Just dont say that God accepts it because he does not. If you dont believe in God thats one thing but you cant say you believe in God and then think he accepts homosexuality.
@ToWorshipHimintruth like any gay person (who hasn't been molested or conditioned to believe that he is gay as a child) would tell you....I WAS BORN GAY! So what are you saying, God makes mistakes? and who are you to tell me if I was born gay or not, you wouldn't know cause you are straight! Sorry, despite what the bible might suggest... the REALITY is people are born this way....that's all I am going to say about this topic.BYE!
If sexuality is a choice, then your choice is to be straight, meaning you must have had at some point gay sexual feelings. But if you have never had a sexual attraction to the same sex, then you have not made a choice to be straight. So if this applies to you ,how can you say a gay person can choose their sexuality, if all they know is a sexual attraction to the same sex? For their to exist a choice in sexuality then all humans must have attraction to both sexes. Do you??
@Davisjenai There are only 6-7 scriptures that deal with homosexuality. There are more scriptures that deal with condoning slavery. I am not say that I agree or disagree I just believe when speaking we should provide facts. Be blessed my brother or sister. No disrespect intended.
God created all that is good but he did not create things like lying, murder, or homosexuality, that was a product of the devil. it is understandable if one says that a murderer would have to stop killing, a theif would have to stop stealing, or a liar would have to stop lying if they come to Christ, so y is it not also true to say a homosexual would have to stop living a gay life. u need to hate what God hates and He will deliver u from ur sin, and homosexuality is a sin.
If you want to be gay, that is okay by me. Don't twist God's word to make the abomination justifiable in the eyes of the Lord because it will never be, no matter how 'tolerant' we are of the actions on Earth. There is a reason why two men and two women cannot conceive children.
This panel was awesome and it dispels some of the myths that we as African American's have used to judge others with for so long. I appreciate the RESPECTFUL dialogue between all of the panel guests and the commentator was great as well. One Love!
That argument lacks responsibility....IF WE are TAUGHT THAT GOD CREATED EVERYTHING...then what is EXCLUDED from EVERYTHING??? IF GOD KNOWS ME before I KNEW MYSELF, then what is the CHURCH complaining about???? If I have a STABLE RELATIONSHIP with GOD, what is YOUR PROBLEM with it??? I think people are caught up in the reckless behavior they THINK being gay is all about! Many of us are not running wild...and it's a trip that we don't hear this kind of talk about the MAC DADDIES and PIMPS....
No boo. God created everything, and when Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, they had a knowledge of good and evil. At that point, man had a CHOICE whether or not they wanted to follow him. You can CHOOSE whether you want to follow Satan or him. He will not make you choose. Satan tempted Adam and Eve, and they fell for it. The reason why there are choices is bc God wants to follow him on our own. God allows Satan to do his will bc he is a God of love, not control.
I DISAGREE, BOO! That's not the reason for CHOICES in my world! In my world, CHOICES are there for us to LEARN FROM...and the thing is MANY OF US don't know choice from what's innate! BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE, that's INNATE, but what becomes a choice is the kind of lifestyle I live as a gay man...IF I am RECKLESS and screwing everything that moves creating havoc OR I can be a loving, caring, GOD LOVING GAY MAN who has a STABLE relationship with GOD, my fellow human being, and sig other!
Whatever. You can discuss that with God on judgment day. I am not him. I do, however, know that the Bible repeatedly and explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. Don't get mad at me for what the Bible says. We only have a choice between good and evil because God allowed the decision to be made. We chose it, and we were born into our sinful NATURE. It's a lot easier to be sinful than to follow the will of God. God allows sin. He hates it.
And just as I said, that argument LACKS responsibility! Even using your take on this, IF CHOICE is the operative here, then that means that ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY is on ME or whoever is making the choices!! You are saying that God wants us to follow God on our own, so that means I AM RESPONSIBLE for choicing to do so!! Yeah, the argument LACKS personal responsibility!
You need to gain a better understanding of the Bible. I don't have any problem with your relationship with God. Homosexual acts are not the only sins people commit. There are a whole heap of them, and God equally hates all of them. He allowed us to choose between good and evil, and because of our ancestry, we are really evil by nature. Only thru the deliverance of Jesus can we be saved. First, you have to admit that you have sinned. Then you are forgiven.
I was born Samoan, so i guess im going to hell smh
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Why do christians all choose to ignore the stuff about tolerance, love and forgiveness and just concentrate on gay bashing and right-wing politics, I don't understand. Shouldn't they all be volunteering at homeless shelters and giving their money to charity?
It all sounds a bit suspect to me.
asubjectiveopinion 1 month ago
this series gave me a headache.
all god this, and god that. just live life freely, damn.
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@KaiserFailed GOD IS!!!! Live freely in the flesh and commit your soul to hell!!!
y6010 1 month ago
Christians need to let the world know what the gospel says about sin & being without natural affection.Romans chapter 1:vers.18-32; gay people will not make it to heaven. And no there want be a gay church; it will just be a building full of hell bound people.God didn't bend the rules; he has allways gave the world 2 choices do or die.
brotherfrank62 2 months ago
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Exdous Chapter 20:vers.17 The truth about giving. Thou shalt not covet any thing that is thy neighbour's. The 10th commandment.
brotherfrank62 2 months ago
I always find it fascinating when Christians speak about the "truth". Wot is truth? Wot makes a claim "true"? Because a book says so? Because u interpreted it out from the book? Because u have faith on it? These Christians (anti or pro-gay) should be honest enough 2 recognize there's no epistemological value on the claims of theology or in exegesis of books that contradict each other on a plethora of subjects. BTW, the 1st guy is kinda cute & YUP. He's still gay & in denial. Poor dude.
cre599 3 months ago
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cre599 3 months ago
It's funny that Christianity will expect homosexuality but not expect polygamy.
GTpanik 6 months ago
If Jesus was an revolutionary, then how come these black preachers are no good uncle toms?
GTpanik 6 months ago
#2. Women are working outside of the home, and in the Bible, that is not allowed. Women working outside of the home would cause abandonment of children and husbands. Like I stated before, I think we, as a society, has evolved, with God's grace, now I understand that all people, all races, all cultures, all sexualities is of equal value. Much Love Forum, Peace:)
ohmaryjane 6 months ago
I am a Christian and God is first in my life. In the past, I was homophobic and angry. Now, I understand that all people are of value. That all sexualities is a gift (consenting adults) and is about of our human experiences. In the past, Slaves were considered property and should not marry. Because marriage of slaves was an abombination and would lead to societal chaos. Women have rewritten the Bible, and refuse to say the word 'obey' in marriage vows. Women are working outside of the home
ohmaryjane 6 months ago
Look, there are other more important things that need to be discussed that's going on in this world then worrying about two human beings that are loving each other and are not stealing from American's and telling us at the same time that the world is in trouble because of a debt we had nothing to do with. Get it
nzinghagllm007 7 months ago
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Isaiah 5:20 WOE! to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
nuggermyme 7 months ago
Gay Bullying is illegal in New York, if you homophobic, I can get you put in prison. Homophobia = a preventable Hate-Crime.
Free Speech is NOT Hate-Speech.
Don't hate me because I'm gay, I enjoy being gay, so YOU hate me for it?
Proud Heterophobic GayThug, if you dont like my advances, ain't my problem, but dont lay yo bigoted Gay-Hate on me, I can't help it I'm attracted to boyz.
Anti-Gay crimes on the rise, the murder of gays in the US must stop NOW!
I support LGBT legislation+Gay-Rights Laws.
GayWorldOrder 8 months ago
It is very vivid that only one of these three "Preachers" used the WORD OF GOD in what they said.
jollymao 8 months ago
The very reason I say Religion is was engineered to seperate, divide and control. These people contradict everything they believe. MANipulate.
MrAdwolfe1 9 months ago
I bet that Pastor is still gay.
cymonebreathe 9 months ago
2 of these pastors twisting the truth to make a lifesyle fit. Rev.21:1-8, heaven and earth is going to pass away, that includes the flesh too! WHAT IN HELL DO WE WANT? There's no way out of hell! If whomever makes it to hell, tell hell"I AINT COMING"!
33sword 10 months ago
I'm still confused hey, help someone
demaru56 10 months ago
Pastor Dennis is still gay. Idk why he tryna hide it!
aaruano1991 11 months ago
Now Pastor Foster is right on with what he said about about women who committed adultery and JESUS telling the women to Go and sin no more. The other brotha who calls himself a pastor is a not being or telling the truth. And who is he to tell pastor Foster who can pastor Foster was called to reach.
LCNMinistries 11 months ago
Now Pastor Foster is right on with what he said about about women who committed adultery and JESUS telling the women to Go and sin no more. The other brotha who calls himself a pastor is a not being or telling the truth. And who is he to tell pastor Foster who can pastor Foster was called to reach. He ain't God? but that's what folks who embrace sin do! Is tell lies and justifies their positions even if it means watering down Gods word. Holla G'S 4 CHRIST.
LCNMinistries 11 months ago
if you listen to Dr. Martin she as ways said "if I" and not "If God" because if she would have said that she would have spoken against her homosexual life style. Also, when Meredith's son came to him and told him that he was a homosexual he only said "thats OK with me", but he didn't say if "GOD WAS OK". I could see on the face of Rev Foster, who was the only real Preacher on the Panel, that he was thinking that these two supposed to be preachers are in real trouble. & THEY WILL FACE GOD IN SIN.
countrychristianboi 1 year ago
Great panel, but im shocked at the opinions of those 2 pastors
Zlamarjackson 1 year ago
Have you ever heard X-rated books and movies by saying the bible has the same kind of stories. Like this one in (Judges 19) Its got homosexuality, gang rape, even the cutting up of a dead body. Hey its just like todays films. There is one difference tho X-rated books and movies cater to passion. The bibles real ife stories underline how terrible these sins are.Todays books, films, sitcoms ect try and make sin glamorous. The bible shows sin for what it really is. Read Judges 19
yisdissohard 1 year ago
Why do people find "Gay churches"?.. its not so they will be "accepted" Its so they can live comfortably in there sinful lifestyle and not told its wrong and to repent of it because the leadership is also openly living in it so who are you to tell me its wrong its "hypocrisy" is all it is. If you do not acknowledge it as sin which its clearly sin then you simply want to go be with the world and its pleasures and not follow Christ and his word so go be with the world.
yisdissohard 1 year ago
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yisdissohard 1 year ago
@yisdissohard Matthew 15:19 Jesus addresses fornication which is anything sexual immoral which is adultery, sex before marriage, homosexuality exc anything outside the confines of marriage between one man and one women joined together in one flesh that is what fornication is and a sin. God designed marriage he has the copy right we do not have the right to go in and change what Gods standards are. Matthew 19 Jesus speaks on marriage, divorce and Celebacy also.
yisdissohard 1 year ago
What amazes me is that each Pastor took it to the scropture and did not rely solely on emotion. In fact the female pastor used historical, linguistic and cultural FACT tosupport her points as relate to the scripture. She has not come to her conclusions based on emotion or personal interpretation but FACT. This BREEDS holines and DOES perta to GODLINESS. That is awesome!
jessedeanstanford 1 year ago
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first off for people who are saying they're born this way.... it doesnt matter because jesus said YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN!!!! and no one is born gay. That is a deception to make homos believe its ok to be gay
mikezap1800 1 year ago
Wait. What?? he was gay? I couldn't even listen to that. Honey, you are STILL gay. You just practice a heterosexual lifestyle. I am sorry you hate yourself so much and cant' understand the grace of God is BIGGER than your own self-hatred.
fuzmiq 1 year ago
The standard of God's word is not predicated on human feelings or conditions! God is not concerned with what is comfortable for us in our humanism. God does not care about how an individual was born or what their natural inclinations are, for I recall Jesus himself stating in the Garden of Gesemity, "Father, if you are willing, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, not my will, but yours, be done." If it be not robbery for our Christ to submit his will to the will of God, what excuse do we hav
tminifizzle 1 year ago
God is HOLY, but people don't want to live up to HIS standards, they want to live sinfully, and they want God's stamp of approval. PEOPLE, we are to live up to HIS standards, it's not the other way around. He is a HOLY GOD, and we are a sinful human race, from the time of Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. READ the BIBLE stop following fables of the Devil.
mickey110257 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 - Christianity teaches that you must be born again. Why is being born again important?....And what is Christianity all about? Because we are all born in sin with a sin nature we must be born again. Just like I was a fornicator before I meant Christ..When I recieved Christ as my savior...I might have still fornicated but I knew it was out of the will of God. Christ justified me, Now I'm in the state of sancification. "CHANGE"..Our minds must start transformer to the will of God!
PowerforLiving 1 year ago
To tell you the truth...this is causing more HATE than LOVE.
You guys shunning homosexuality are homophobic , and selectively choosing laws from the bible...while ignoring the tons of other laws that shun adulterers, rude children , unclean foods etc!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
Bible teaches that we shall know the truth and the truth shall make us free. As a result of the fall of Adam... sin entered into the world. We all are born in rebellion to God. Homosexality is the SIN nature that many people have just like many of us are liars, theives, and fornicators, etc.... But the Good News is that whom the Son has set free is FREE INDEED. If God can take a Paul who was a murderer and change him...He can change the heart of a homosexual. Many are being changed.
PowerforLiving 1 year ago
@PowerforLiving STFU........LEVITICUS also says you should put children to death if they curse their parents...It also says that you should stone a woman who is not a virgin at marriage. STOP selecting whatever rules you FEEL should apply!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
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Not only are homosexuals - homosexual men in particular - more likely to contract HIV/AIDS, when you compare stats from the CDC it looks like smoking is actually a safer activity than sodomy. Type "What's Worse - Smoking or Sodomy?" into your favorite search engine to read more. According to the CDC, men who have sex with men are diagnosed with HIV at a rate that is "44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women."
shieldsff 1 year ago
Greetings to you all In the name of Our Lord JESUS Christ! I am Brother "Thompson" From Endtime Pentecostal Church, Under the Leadership Prophet S.D. James! God Did not created for a man to be ith a man, or a woman to be with a woman! THE DEVIL IS A LIAR!!!!!! Its Anti Christ Spirit in the Church, confusing the mind of the people! God create Adam and Eve OKAY? Not Adam & Stevie!! Please seek for da Holy Ghost, In the last and evil days, their gonna be False Prophets!!!!!!
janariesthompson 1 year ago
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According to Jesus, marriage is ordained by God the Father to be between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:21-24; Matthew 19:4-6). Anything outside of God's ideal of marriage is fornication, which is a sin. Gay marriage/same-sex marriage is a perversion of the institution of marriage and an offense to the God who created marriage.
22APL 1 year ago
My two cents: when people call themselves christians, you hold up a banner or standard. You begin to let down that standard when you rebel against the Word of God. This statement is not for the unbeliever... but to the believers. We have to have a standard. In order to uphold that standard we must be obedient to the Word of the Lord. 1 Sam 15 :22-23
MsKia0302 1 year ago
These black people use the word homophobia like jews use anti-semetic!! Get a grip! Just because people don't have the same views don't mean they hate you!! Geez!!
warriorogod 1 year ago
Homophobia! Oh my goodness! Again God did not make anyone Gay! If you say that then you make God out to be a liar and a sinner! In God there is no sin! That woman is crazy! Nature vs nurture!! is she crazy! God does not approve of homosexuality! Or adultery or stealing or lying there is a bunch more!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper well since your "god" makes people who and what they are
then if he is real he must have made them that way since gays are born that way
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 God does not make people to sin! You know damn well that Homosexuality is wrong! Even people that are homosexuals know that they are doing wrong! Deep in their hearts they know! Now God has said that Homosexuality is an abomination! He would not create someone to be an abomination!
I am in now way saying that Gay people should be mistreated or discriminated against! I leave that judgment up to God! It is my duty to treat everyone the same!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper where did god say that?
so by those last two lines i take it you are pro gay marriage?
gays are born that way so wouldnt that mean that your "god" made them that way if he really existed?
homosexuality is not wrong
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Lev 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is an abomination" that is where God said it!
No I do not support Gay marriage! I am not a proponent of Homosexuality! But at the same time I am going to treat the thief, the adulterer and the liar all the same!
Gays were not born that way! God did not make people to sin! You make God out to be a liar when you say that and you blaspheme greatly!
If you dont believe in God then why bring him up!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@idaman12345 Being Gay is wrong! immoral! Un-natural, Not normal! A grat sin! An abomination unto God!! homosexuals will have to take that up to him on judgment day!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper its a sin according to a fictional book written by man
not by some "god"
being gay is not wrong
being a religious puppet is wrong
idaman12345 1 year ago
@idaman12345 If you want to say the bible is false....I can deal with that! If you say there is no God then that is fine too! You dont believe THATS FINE!
However dont say being gay is right! there is nothing right about homosexuals!!
but since you dont believe in God it really does not matter! Be as Gay as you want!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper your ok with the truth on everything but being gay is ok?
idaman12345 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper This is Sis. Patrice I just want to say Amen Amen Amen
janariesthompson 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper just out of curiosity, when did it become ok for christians to swear?
MsKia0302 1 year ago
@MsKia0302 #1 I am not a christian! #2 when did becoming a christian make it a standard for worshiping god?? You act as if being a christian is worshiping God!! The standard you speak has nothing to do with the pagan religion of christianity! The religion and the what the bible teaches are two different things. From the lies of christianity you get Christmas, Easter, The pagan cross, sunday worship and a host of other lies and scriptual errors. Chew on that and get back with me if u can!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper How bout I leave you to your own thought pattern. Some arguments are fruitless.
MsKia0302 1 year ago
@MsKia0302 Yes because your thought pattern is fruitless! Good Day.
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper L.O.L!
MsKia0302 1 year ago
@MsKia0302 And when did I swear?? I am not saying I didnt but what does that have to do with this subject????
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
THE POOR WOMAN IS DECEIVED!!!! AND SO IS THE MAN..THEY ARE NOT PASTORS ...THEY DONT KNOW WHAT SIN IS...AND THEY DENY THE WORD OF GOD...SURELY WE MUST LOVE THEM...BUT THEY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER WHEN THEY SAY THE TRUE PASTOR IS NOT TOLERANT..BECAUSE TOLERATION IS USED WHEN YOU DISAGREE NOT WHEN YOU AGREE...THAT FALSE BLACK PASTOR IN BLUE IS CONTRADICTING HIMSELF AND NOT TOLERATING THE TRUE REVEREND.....
566791967 1 year ago
A gay man wants to worship another man,God, Jesus DUH!!!! That's what there is so much homosexaulity in the Churches. The Black Church is a Greek social center... Worship is dead in all forms..
anias07 1 year ago
@anias07
You statement is absurd!
blainebill39 1 year ago
@blainebill39 It may seem absurd when don't research the facts. Constantine the Roman Emperor that adopted Christianity was a Homosexual. Even in the Bible it states King David loving Johnathan. Homosexuality is an underworld culture highly coveted in the Catholic Church for the most part. The Catholic Church and Jewish Clergy are revealing and are exposed for their homosexuality nowadays.
anias07 1 year ago
@anias07
Theres is also extant evidence that Costantine the Great
retained his pagan religious practices, further supporting
many historians belief that his great conversion at the"Milvian
Bridge" was merely political astutness, though I must say I have
not seen evidence pertaining to Constantines' sexual proclivities.
I have read of the sexual appetites of the first century emperor
Trajen and of course many are well aware of Hadrians'proclivities!
blainebill39 1 year ago
They need to read Romans 1:18-32
retrograde001 1 year ago
@retrograde001
Again it looks like I'll be doing this for quit a while.
When studying Romans one is reading the words
of Paul, with all of his first century prejudice. In spite
of his conversion , Paul was a pharasaic Jew growing
up in a predominantly Greek community, so he was
surrounded by Gentile.
Few would deny that Pauls' conversion was miraculous
and that he became a great evangelist. However, I
believe his epistles should be studied in this light.
blainebill39 1 year ago
you always have to be mindful when people say "I believe"
bigsexyblondiedreads 1 year ago
Preach the word Rev. Foster !!!!
052260 1 year ago 5
martin and meredith have their own interpretation and thats that. What they'r really saying is ' I understand the bible 'But'
Bedeborah 1 year ago
I'll tell yu what kind of preachers they are. They ascertain their beliefs no matter what the bible say.
Bedeborah 1 year ago
What kind of preachers are they??? There are so many scriptures that condemn the homosexual lifestyle. Just because you feel a certain way does not mean it was to be meant. We were born in sin so we have to find a way to commit to the way God wants us to be. If we are sexually immoral God is displeased...period! God loves us all but it does say he will condemn homosexuals to hell. Does it get anymore clear than that!!!!!
Davisjenai 2 years ago 16
@Davisjenai I often wonder the same thing myself! Homosexuality is sin! There is no place for any sin in the kingdom of God!
That other black preacher is an idiot! "Comfortable" So he wants people to be comfortable in sin! A sinner! The wages of sin is death!!!!!!
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@thecovenantkeeper Yeah, I know. And it's a shame he is saying homosexuality is ok just because of his son. If you're a preacher you have an obligation to teach God's word and what it says. It doesn't matter what his son says he shouldn't still think it's ok. Shame on him.
Davisjenai 1 year ago
@Davisjenai What if his son came up to him and said dad I am a murderer or an adulterer???
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@Davisjenai Amen Amen Amen!
janariesthompson 1 year ago
@Davisjenai You are a real christian.
chrisl3698 1 year ago
@chrisl3698 Thank you. I'm fortunate to know the word and to have God place people in my life who have an understanding of the word.
Davisjenai 1 year ago
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@chrisl3698 What is a real christian???
thecovenantkeeper 1 year ago
@Davisjenai - false and reprobate... that's the kind
shieldsff 1 year ago
@Davisjenai YOU GO TO HELL, BIGOT, DON'T SPEAK ABOUT WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 First of all I know too well about what I say. If I didn't I would not say anything at all even if it is over the internet. And second, God Bless You!
Davisjenai 1 year ago
@Davisjenai god bless you ...but u subliminally mean 'fuck you'. The bible condemns defiled brides, disobedient children, saying that they should be stoned. It also claims the world is 6000 years old, and that the world is 'flat'.There are a lot of falsities in the bible and people like you just choose to focus on homosexuality. HOMOPHOBES!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 Umm, there is no falsities sweetheart. And I suggest you should understand the word of God more clearly before you make it out to be false. I understand the word of God to a point where I am to evangelize to others. If you do not agree with it oh well. I am not to shove it down your face we are to spread the word no matter what. I am not going to say anything so people can be comfortable in their sin. Sin is sin. Its not about ganging up on homosexuality. Its a sin & ppl should know.
Davisjenai 1 year ago
@Davisjenai A sin? I've been gay since I was a little kid, i've always had this personality. I was born this way...GOD doesn't make mistakes, so are you saying that he made a mistake? Or are you going presumptuous and tell ME, that I wasn't born gay and it's a gay demon that was in me as a lil kid!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 Yes, it is a sin. I'm not saying this to be mean or anything. Or to be a "Homophobe". It's a sin because when God created everything he said it was good. It was our rebellion towards God that made us corrupt. And we are even born in sin because of it.
Davisjenai 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 Yes! You have a demon in you! That demon is deceiving you! making you think what you are doing is okay! Its called deception! the devils main tool! God did not make you or anyone Gay!
ToWorshipHimintruth 1 year ago
@ToWorshipHimintruth LMAO is the demon the reason I've donated thousands to charity, and is the demon the reason i'm a open-minded,kind, alturistic person. Well it must be a good demon then...wish everyone had it, the world would be a nicer place
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 But are you doing ALL that God requires of you???
ToWorshipHimintruth 1 year ago
@ToWorshipHimintruth are you? fix yourself before you try to fix others!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 Let me say this. I do not hate Gay people. We are all of the human family! I am speaking of the behavior that God himself said was acceptable and was not acceptable. The very same thing goes for a thief or a liar or a murderer. All I am saying is that if you want to be gay you have the free will to do so. Just dont say that God accepts it because he does not. If you dont believe in God thats one thing but you cant say you believe in God and then think he accepts homosexuality.
ToWorshipHimintruth 1 year ago
@ToWorshipHimintruth like any gay person (who hasn't been molested or conditioned to believe that he is gay as a child) would tell you....I WAS BORN GAY! So what are you saying, God makes mistakes? and who are you to tell me if I was born gay or not, you wouldn't know cause you are straight! Sorry, despite what the bible might suggest... the REALITY is people are born this way....that's all I am going to say about this topic.BYE!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@zybotsu001 No one was born Gay! God did not make you Gay! If you stay in sin you are in trouble with God. The same with a thief or a murderer!
The scriptures speak boldly against homosexuality! There is no more to say!
ToWorshipHimintruth 1 year ago
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@ToWorshipHimintruth HOW CAN YOU SAY NO ONE WAS BORN GAY? YOU ARE STRAIGHT...YOU WOULDN'T KNOW!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
@ToWorshipHimintruth
If sexuality is a choice, then your choice is to be straight, meaning you must have had at some point gay sexual feelings. But if you have never had a sexual attraction to the same sex, then you have not made a choice to be straight. So if this applies to you ,how can you say a gay person can choose their sexuality, if all they know is a sexual attraction to the same sex? For their to exist a choice in sexuality then all humans must have attraction to both sexes. Do you??
cdj231172 1 year ago
@ToWorshipHimintruth No born again Christian is born gay. End of story.
HisPhoenixCrusader 2 months ago
@HisPhoenixCrusader WRONG!
SamoanComedy 1 week ago
@Davisjenai Preach it!
HisPhoenixCrusader 2 months ago
@Davisjenai YOUR RIGHT D i agree. MUCH HOLY GHOST LOVE!
LCNMinistries 11 months ago
@Davisjenai There are only 6-7 scriptures that deal with homosexuality. There are more scriptures that deal with condoning slavery. I am not say that I agree or disagree I just believe when speaking we should provide facts. Be blessed my brother or sister. No disrespect intended.
jstrong185 8 months ago
@jstrong185 3 or more is multiple/many...if God said it, that's enough.
Davisjenai 8 months ago
Until I see Mankind CAN lay with Mankind as with Womankind in the BIBLE, I will always oppose the homosexual lifestyle.
301brown 2 years ago
The guy with the yellow tie is one ignorant SOB....and if he "was" Gay, then rest assured, he IS Gay. Retards.
urwhatthewho 2 years ago
@urwhatthewho Absolutely agree! Either he wasn't gay but tried to be, or he has always been and will always be. Genes cannot be argued with.
HimmiJoe 1 year ago
God created all that is good but he did not create things like lying, murder, or homosexuality, that was a product of the devil. it is understandable if one says that a murderer would have to stop killing, a theif would have to stop stealing, or a liar would have to stop lying if they come to Christ, so y is it not also true to say a homosexual would have to stop living a gay life. u need to hate what God hates and He will deliver u from ur sin, and homosexuality is a sin.
pwpwar 2 years ago
The guy on the left is exactly right. He sticks to the Bible. The other guy is simply about emotion. Human emotion is NOT perfect... God's word is.
GoldenbanjoDJ 2 years ago
If you want to be gay, that is okay by me. Don't twist God's word to make the abomination justifiable in the eyes of the Lord because it will never be, no matter how 'tolerant' we are of the actions on Earth. There is a reason why two men and two women cannot conceive children.
22anavdb 2 years ago
@22anavdb That 100% right
janariesthompson 1 year ago
What's interesting is that one of the pastors on the panel
stated that homosexuals make up 10% of the populace
even though thats an inaccurate percentage. The gay
lobby inflated that percentage.
Samc023 2 years ago
ur right thier are actually more of us than u think
Jaquarius2g4 2 years ago
That may be so, but you don't make up 10% of the populace.
Samc023 2 years ago
Thanks for your these videos. I agree with hoop4him. Everyone was very respectful of one another and I really appreciate that! :)
TheonenonlyRMD 2 years ago 2
This panel was awesome and it dispels some of the myths that we as African American's have used to judge others with for so long. I appreciate the RESPECTFUL dialogue between all of the panel guests and the commentator was great as well. One Love!
hoop4him 2 years ago 11
There is no where in the Bible were God create homosexuality. He just said don't do it. End of story.
dalmae100 2 years ago
That argument lacks responsibility....IF WE are TAUGHT THAT GOD CREATED EVERYTHING...then what is EXCLUDED from EVERYTHING??? IF GOD KNOWS ME before I KNEW MYSELF, then what is the CHURCH complaining about???? If I have a STABLE RELATIONSHIP with GOD, what is YOUR PROBLEM with it??? I think people are caught up in the reckless behavior they THINK being gay is all about! Many of us are not running wild...and it's a trip that we don't hear this kind of talk about the MAC DADDIES and PIMPS....
HeavyDee 2 years ago 4
No boo. God created everything, and when Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, they had a knowledge of good and evil. At that point, man had a CHOICE whether or not they wanted to follow him. You can CHOOSE whether you want to follow Satan or him. He will not make you choose. Satan tempted Adam and Eve, and they fell for it. The reason why there are choices is bc God wants to follow him on our own. God allows Satan to do his will bc he is a God of love, not control.
22anavdb 2 years ago
I DISAGREE, BOO! That's not the reason for CHOICES in my world! In my world, CHOICES are there for us to LEARN FROM...and the thing is MANY OF US don't know choice from what's innate! BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE, that's INNATE, but what becomes a choice is the kind of lifestyle I live as a gay man...IF I am RECKLESS and screwing everything that moves creating havoc OR I can be a loving, caring, GOD LOVING GAY MAN who has a STABLE relationship with GOD, my fellow human being, and sig other!
HeavyDee 2 years ago
Whatever. You can discuss that with God on judgment day. I am not him. I do, however, know that the Bible repeatedly and explicitly says that homosexuality is wrong. Don't get mad at me for what the Bible says. We only have a choice between good and evil because God allowed the decision to be made. We chose it, and we were born into our sinful NATURE. It's a lot easier to be sinful than to follow the will of God. God allows sin. He hates it.
22anavdb 2 years ago
@HeavyDee
Amen brother!
blainebill39 1 year ago
And just as I said, that argument LACKS responsibility! Even using your take on this, IF CHOICE is the operative here, then that means that ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY is on ME or whoever is making the choices!! You are saying that God wants us to follow God on our own, so that means I AM RESPONSIBLE for choicing to do so!! Yeah, the argument LACKS personal responsibility!
HeavyDee 2 years ago
You need to gain a better understanding of the Bible. I don't have any problem with your relationship with God. Homosexual acts are not the only sins people commit. There are a whole heap of them, and God equally hates all of them. He allowed us to choose between good and evil, and because of our ancestry, we are really evil by nature. Only thru the deliverance of Jesus can we be saved. First, you have to admit that you have sinned. Then you are forgiven.
22anavdb 2 years ago