Pain and the Brain

[safekeyaps]

Using hypnosis on a daily basis helping pain clients - teaching them to remove the pain in the brain :-) and it works like a charm.

I just love your explanations on pain here...LOVE IT....WELL DONE

[zandj710]

ty for posting, I enjoyed this very much, I suffer from chronic pain, due to a spinal cord injury. I do agree morphine was a wonderful pain reliever, I though am afraid of it (side effects) I switched meds and will take it if pain level is unbearable. Anyway this was very informative. More to think about when it comes to blocking pain at the spinal cord level, blocking to the brain.as far a placibos, it was tried on me and it did not work, I came back not knowing it and was in worse pain

[Opethitis]

this talk´s too basic. but cool.

[longlakeshore]

To have pain is to have certainty. To hear about pain is to have doubt.

[kittyfallout]

fake and gay

[jimijackson]

great presentation :) *claps*

[Kingkalty]

Religions are inherited or accepted emotionally. Both are erroneous paths in the search for truth. Google Doe’s Account.

[sandhedomsundhed]

@Kingkalty wow, what is a guy who (thinks he) knows it all doing surfing the internet, you should be getting nobel prices somewhere. Ignorant!

[returnoftheramble]

it takes a lot of meditation to not experience pain or you should really just cut yourself because it will relief the pain, even though you have to be careful about infections. You were literally go insane if you don't get it out. Don't personalize it.

[lidziaia]

absolutely outstanding guy!!!

[Draziom203]

psychiatry is a pseudoscience cult. dont believe their lies. they are NOT science. they are CRIMINALS. Psychiatry is the most DESTRUCTIVE force on this planet today. They must be destroyed for the sake of mankind.

[seriouslymatsteele]

Run for the hills!!

[Draziom203]

exactly.

[seriouslymatsteele]

That was sarcasm, you're a loon.

[Draziom203]

pot calling kettle. your brain lacks common sense.

[painxtreme]

I think your tinfoil hats have worn out. I have 3 ruptured thoracic disks and a lemon sized spinal tumor at L2, and I think I will stick with a Highly trained Medical Professional who has devoted his career to the understanding of pain, rather than a bunch of personal stories from internet people with wiki knowledge

[chiangxiong]

Allan, you are the f**king man.

[longlakeshore]

Excellent lecture. As a long term chronic myofacial pain patient, I take issue with the concept of "allodynia". My chronic pain IS pain, not allodyniia, and the only thing that controls it are powerful prescription narcotics. Labeling it "allodynia" is a dangerous and misleading drift into semantics which is happening, IMHO, because medical professionals and anatomists can't accept the fact that tissues heal but sometimes nerve fibers keep sending pain signals anyway. PAIN IS REAL.

[chiangxiong]

you're confused. allodynia is defined as pain caused by non-painful stimuli. don't get too hung up on the sun burn example; it was simply used because the idea is familiar to many people. calling something allodynia does not make it "fake," it just means that something hurts and the cause is a stimulus or movement or whatever that should not be painful. someone with arthritis is describing allodynia; it hurts when i move my hands.

[longlakeshore]

You're the one who is confused, as is Dr. Basbaum at 6:22 when he presents a slide saying pain is a subjective experience, not a stimulus. It IS a stimulus. Proof? A temporary block of my facial nerve (CVII) w/marcaine gives me complete pain relief for ~3 hours till the local wears off. Surgical damage to this nerve has left me in severe chronic pain for the last 26 years. Whatever the damage was/is, CVII continues to send pain signals to my brain. Were it affective, the block wouldn't work.

[chiangxiong]

The brain is what decides whether or not something is interpreted as pain and it can be manipulated. Your example is anecdotal and your relief can easily be the result of placebo. Expecting a treatment to work is enough to make it work.

[longlakeshore]

Your conclusions are in error. I didn't "expect" the C7 block to work because I didn't know in advance which nerves were being blocked! When one of several, separate temporary blocks gave full pain relief I was informed AFTER THE FACT that it was a facial nerve block.

Poof goes your placebo theory. Poof goes your antecdotal claim.

[umuse]

If you tried hypnosis, assuming you respond to it and you are willing to forego your present medication, you would perhaps know a bit more about it.

[longlakeshore]

I tried hypnosis, only to discover that like Dr. Basbaum, I cannot be hypnotized.

Forego my medication! You kno not of what you speak! I was without pain medication for the first 13 years of the 26 I've been in pain. Pain docs never start you on narcotics. They tried more than a dozen meds. Only powerful opiates worked.

If you actually lived in chronic pain perhaps you would know a bit more about it.

[umuse]

You are damn well right, I really dont know chronic pain.

Well you can say you have at least tried it. But really I think there is some semblance of truth in here. May be not to the extent as depicted. Is your medication being administered relatively targeted? This possibility has been explored in the video too?

[longlakeshore]

I agree, there is SOME truth in Dr Basbaum's lecture. Added it to my favorites long ago. I disagree with him labeling pain as allodynia just because pain is caused by a stimulus which normally would not cause pain. What gets lost in translation is that allodynia IS pain and that a "normal" stimulus causes pain. It's still pain. It still hurts like hell and, in my case, requires powerful opiates to relieve. Pain is pain. Don't call it something else.

[umuse]

Perfectly right. Pain that is felt _ no matter where it originates and how convoluted the pathways that are involved and no matter where its awareness is manifested is REAL!

It is reality, that can supersede all others!

[chuckypud]

i can't see what your problem is lls, pain is pain and different types of pain require different names . allodynia is pain from normal stimulus , like you might get pain from wind on your face i imagine like trigeminal neuralgia. he says this is the most serious type of pain so doesn't offend you in my opinion if anything he gives your problems more respect. i suffer from chronic back pain and this really has opened my eyes as id been focused on my discs and never gave my brain any thought

[longlakeshore]

If allodynia is pain from normal stimulus, what about pain from NO stimulus? I know plenty of people with arthritis (Basbaum's example) who have constant pain in their hands WITHOUT moving their hands. I'm a chronic pain patient from infection and surgical nerve damage to a cranial nerve. With no stimulus whatsoever I am in constant pain so severe only powerful opiates work. I fear that labeling pain as something else will make everyone think it's not pain.

[Draziom203]

@longlakeshore Pain docs ALWAYS start with narcotics and OPIATES ARE NARCOTICS!.

[longlakeshore]

@Drazion203: Pain docs do NOT always start with narcotics (and yes, I know opiates are narcotics... that's no great revelation u kno... certainly not worth all caps). As I have already explained, my pain doc tried a dozen antidepressants & anti-seizure meds over a nine month period b4 prescribing opiate painkillers, and was very reluctant to do so.

My pain management physicians saved my life then and continue to do so. I am very thankful for their good work.

[Draziom203]

@longlakeshore Most Pain Docs start with Narcotics as first line treatment then go from there. I see a pain doc myself and was given a narcotic immediately because my pain was very severe. Where is your pain and what opiate do you take?.

[ThePhantomLash]

@longlakeshore Have you heard of Bruno Groening ?? Or Immunics with Bayard Barnes ?

Get on !!

[longlakeshore]

@ThePhantomLash Yes I've heard of Bruno Groening (can you hear me groaning?) and Barnes. IMO he's just another faith healer who offers no real solutions for real physical pain.

[longlakeshore]

Sunburn allodynia at 11:50? Bull. I've had sunburn that hurt like hell all night long with no touch, clothing or air movement at all.

[romeroarro]

this nigga rocks

[bpyjktgiuk]

brain chip, CHECK MY SITE!

[mamaalik12]

wish i had the oppertinuty to be taught by ppl like this, all our lecturers do is.. powerpoint format :/

[phwaleed]

Dr. Allan is brilliant...and we need more of his medical presentations.

[SelfishNeuron]

Tell me where does it hurt?

In my mind of course!

*lol*

[dangerous84]

Wow this is amazing!