If I remeber correctely the plane was crashed for the movie 'Motherlode' back in the eighties. I think the plane actually slid down a wire, as I saw a show on tv about the making of the movie.
I had a situation like this, flying in the right seat while my friend flew from the left, left float touched first... Not nice. All i could do was lock open the door, make sure my seat belt was done up well... Wing came within a few inches of the water, we were ok.
woow! I dont fly floats, but if glassy water, I would mantain a "descent" rate of descent, a "safe" airspeed and attitude, and let it set in the water. I think the error here, was to touch down on one float first, then drag and water did the rest, like SenorSpode says.
If you'll notice, when it's upside down in the water, there is no bottom to the left float. Unless there was a complete failure of the float (doubtful here); that's the reason the pilot (stuntman) touched the bird down on the port float, then went starboard (creating havoc) to make the wreck. Glassy water was the optimal setting for this to be done.
Staged, dramatic, but realistically, think about actually being in the Beaver. It's a good sturdy plane. as you see it stayed intact.
@k9achnn No, this wasn't 'staged', it was an unintentional crash during filming for the movie 'Motherlode', hence the multiple camera angles. The 'missing' bottom to the float you refer to is actually just peeling black paint. I'm familair with this crash and area as I fly floats commercialy nearby. This video is often shown at the beginning of some underwater egress courses to show what attitude a floatplane can take after crashing.
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half year by the German BND which is the renamed GESTAPO. I have recorded more than 450 hours on video. My brother was assassinated on 11.7.09. I was born in ´65,my brother in ´72.My family is being openly persecuted by the BND since 1958 because they did not collaborate during the 3rd Reich.The German state and the children of the NAZIS still own the property stolen from jews and others by their ancestors.Why is that so?
Yep..Cure for glassy water and that LAST 3 feet B4 flare + touchdown is 2 overfly Lake and scatter a Sunday paper all over the H2O. Gives you a point of reference and is 100% tree-product degradable. Also gives you something to read. Never seen a Far North Camp that didn't wanna newspaper. If U MUST leave camp-mostly a BAD IDEA-any searchers will est. date and what happened, 1+ survivor. ALWAYS Indicate your outbound course.by leaving a stone/woodpile arrow+ a note describing yr.intentions..
with that speed and that kind of waterline.. it's like the same effect when you step on a moving escalator, sometimes you miscalculate it, and then you get wet pants.. well not with an escalator..
It looks like they messed with the bottom of the floats to cause the crash on purpose.
I mean come on yeah he is fast , glassy water, late flare and all but just how many times do you think float planes in bad weather , waves, wind touch down on 1 float first. It happens every day and the planes don't crash like that. That crash resembles planes with float problems or floats that have retractable gear that have been left down on water landings which flips the plane.
@EclecticDiscus The WATER messed with the bottom of the float because he came down too fast and hit before he flared. I've seen a float hammered like that.
@EclecticDiscus These floats aren't amphibious; they're "straight". Also, when floats contact the water, the water creates significant drag on them. Notice the right float contacts first; this creates asymmetrical drag, and the slowing action is dramatic, causing the plane to yaw. This would not have been a problem had both floats touched simultaneously. Also notice the fast sink rate, which amplifies the drag and thus the yaw & resultant loss of control.
Actually (from a float pilot's perspective), what happened here was a float dig due to touching down with too much airspeed. The floats were not angled up enough at touchdown, causing the dig. As simple as that. The only other potential factor was landing on the "downwind" float first (notice the left to right drift on short final), that would have exacerbated the float dig. Everything else only dictated HOW the accident would unfold, not that occurred in the first place.
@sdrapaka That's because this landing was being filmed for a movie, the crash was unintentional. They were forced to incorporate the crash into the plot. Nobody was hurt. Agamemnon Films was forced to assume financial responsibility for the crash.
After the unintentional crash the start of the movie was re-written to take advantage of the spectacular footage. No question this was bad flying. You can't land a Beaver hot and heavy.
@89Sunbird A lot of small mistakes. Landing too fast, descent too fast, water was too smooth (creates optical illusion), left float hit first and hooked, that was it. The plane was recovered and rebuilt, however.
There is more than one camera angle shown in this clip. It is obviously from a movie or similar. Accidents that arent planned are rarely caugnt by more than one camera angle unless it is a crowded major event like an airshow.
Correct. Movie: Mother Lode, 1983, Nick Mancuso, Kim Basinger, Charlton Heston. Lake Lovelywater, BC, north of Vancouver. Crash was unintentional. Plane landed on glassy water, which is dangerous because you need some wave to gauge speed, height and rate of descent. Landed too fast, sunk too fast, flared too late, left float touched first, water drag did the rest. Nobody injured. The pane was salvaged, restored and lives life in the US now as N323RS.
Yep, they sure did. What you see here is footage from the movie. Mother Lode Crash Sequence in Related Videos to the right has the raw footage.
Basinger and Mancuso fly over before landing, then set up to land. Basinger asks "Have you done this before?", Mancuso states "Piece of Cake", like you hear. Afterwards, Basinger asks what they hit and Mancuso says "We hit the G-D- water!", LOL.
@SenorSpode Replying to a year-old comment! Thanks; I always wondered how they wrecked a perfectly good Beaver for that film! It clearly wasn't a model, and I never guessed it was unintentional. Sure added to the drama of the movie! So just where north of Vancouver is Lake Lovelywater? I've never heard of it before.
@SenorSpode You don't flair with floats. You set a rate of decent until you hit the water. The left float hit first and caused the yaw, that was the problem. He was also coming down in a hurry and slammed the surface pretty hard. That's why the yaw rate was so violent.
You have it partially right. My family is a commercial bush flying family. You dont ever rely on watching the water for airspeed to touch down. This pilot simply forced a landing to early putting the float beyond its forward limit.Happens a lot on small lakes mainly with obstructions around it.Simply put,Young Bold Pilot out to prove themselves=Not an old pilot.Nice FAA incident report to keep you from flying commercially.Thanks for creating more job security for me!Tard.
For Float pilots: This could've been avoided by creating drag by crabbing the approach to slow down to safe touch down speed. careful not to crab at a nose up attitude. this takes practice without obstructions and knowing your rate of airspeed loss to descent ratio by feel AND gauges before attempting it. only attempt it when load weight is the same as practiced until you get great at it. This is a great training video for float ratings!
unfortunately you're totally wrong. if you think about how fast the float is hitting the water, it's basically like hitting a wall. landing a float plane is hard. trust me.
actually this scene in the movies was an accident. The script never called for a crash. But they got it on film so they used it. You can read all about it on google. The reason it swung like that is because one float caught the water first which caused a drag on on side of the plane. As the plane twisted, the pilot tried to counter steer with the rudder - that is why he swung quickly the other way when he came back out of the water.
I respect you. You did research! And you're spot-on accurate. How do I know? My dad and I knew the guy who brokered the plane, Mr. A. Beaulieu, Vancouver BC. He told us all about it.
The script didn't actually call for that... they had a pilot that refused to do that landing because they wanted the airplane to come down the mountain and land on glassy water... the pilot that replaced him said he could do it. Guess not
It was an actual accident
myrancor 1 week ago
Eseque ses un vrai avion
dudy241 2 weeks ago
If I remeber correctely the plane was crashed for the movie 'Motherlode' back in the eighties. I think the plane actually slid down a wire, as I saw a show on tv about the making of the movie.
eclipser2004 3 weeks ago
there called seaplanes
Dkidz100 4 weeks ago
Ok, and I just thought I wanted floats on my plane. No thanks!
gary5209 1 month ago
It´s a Havilland
MR1flip 1 month ago
@MR1flip thats De Havilland
echobravo77 3 weeks ago
i know this video isnt funny,lol but this same exact thing happened to me in Vice City
S1ick10292 1 month ago
@S1ick10292 lmao hahah
viper8red 2 weeks ago
i do not beleve it the wing would of been torn to sht
SilentAsasin97 1 month ago
I had a situation like this, flying in the right seat while my friend flew from the left, left float touched first... Not nice. All i could do was lock open the door, make sure my seat belt was done up well... Wing came within a few inches of the water, we were ok.
PICLex 2 months ago
woow! I dont fly floats, but if glassy water, I would mantain a "descent" rate of descent, a "safe" airspeed and attitude, and let it set in the water. I think the error here, was to touch down on one float first, then drag and water did the rest, like SenorSpode says.
TheGentleman4u 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Gravity is an invisible force that is responsible for killing many millions of people each year worldwide.
altgeldrarities 3 months ago
If you'll notice, when it's upside down in the water, there is no bottom to the left float. Unless there was a complete failure of the float (doubtful here); that's the reason the pilot (stuntman) touched the bird down on the port float, then went starboard (creating havoc) to make the wreck. Glassy water was the optimal setting for this to be done.
Staged, dramatic, but realistically, think about actually being in the Beaver. It's a good sturdy plane. as you see it stayed intact.
k9achnn 4 months ago
@k9achnn No, this wasn't 'staged', it was an unintentional crash during filming for the movie 'Motherlode', hence the multiple camera angles. The 'missing' bottom to the float you refer to is actually just peeling black paint. I'm familair with this crash and area as I fly floats commercialy nearby. This video is often shown at the beginning of some underwater egress courses to show what attitude a floatplane can take after crashing.
vicoastdog 4 months ago
i wanted to lol but i felt i couldnt do so.
nolifemerc 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
My brother Markus Bott had been tortured during five and a half year by the German BND which is the renamed GESTAPO. I have recorded more than 450 hours on video. My brother was assassinated on 11.7.09. I was born in ´65,my brother in ´72.My family is being openly persecuted by the BND since 1958 because they did not collaborate during the 3rd Reich.The German state and the children of the NAZIS still own the property stolen from jews and others by their ancestors.Why is that so?
Martin Bott
wwwtotalitaerde 4 months ago
More like piece of DEATH cake...
y2kalonn 4 months ago
perfect example of a shortfield landing
ted850760 5 months ago
Peace of cake..... Right............
RamblinRedNecks 5 months ago
Float plane pilots are supposed to know how to land on glassy water. 200 fpm descent rate, let it fly itself down.
FantasticBob7000 5 months ago
Yep..Cure for glassy water and that LAST 3 feet B4 flare + touchdown is 2 overfly Lake and scatter a Sunday paper all over the H2O. Gives you a point of reference and is 100% tree-product degradable. Also gives you something to read. Never seen a Far North Camp that didn't wanna newspaper. If U MUST leave camp-mostly a BAD IDEA-any searchers will est. date and what happened, 1+ survivor. ALWAYS Indicate your outbound course.by leaving a stone/woodpile arrow+ a note describing yr.intentions..
Crashman2 6 months ago
that was funny
CoDCrazy007 6 months ago
with that speed and that kind of waterline.. it's like the same effect when you step on a moving escalator, sometimes you miscalculate it, and then you get wet pants.. well not with an escalator..
larzinator1988 6 months ago
Heck yeah, easier than i thought!
tisoy909 6 months ago
Stunt flyer and plane - nicely done!
RolloffDeBunk 7 months ago
@RolloffDeBunk No no... that was NOT intentional but they kept it in the film anyway
Prickler32 7 months ago
Piece of cake....
mopardude426 7 months ago
"Shit, have had fear about him..." "My brother Achim, his angel said, he must have taken broken bones..."
"Elias..."
RainerPoppe 9 months ago
Comment removed
PeterFLOYDIAN 10 months ago
peace of cake :)
tramplineT 11 months ago
It looks like they messed with the bottom of the floats to cause the crash on purpose.
I mean come on yeah he is fast , glassy water, late flare and all but just how many times do you think float planes in bad weather , waves, wind touch down on 1 float first. It happens every day and the planes don't crash like that. That crash resembles planes with float problems or floats that have retractable gear that have been left down on water landings which flips the plane.
EclecticDiscus 1 year ago
@EclecticDiscus The WATER messed with the bottom of the float because he came down too fast and hit before he flared. I've seen a float hammered like that.
carmium 1 year ago
@EclecticDiscus These floats aren't amphibious; they're "straight". Also, when floats contact the water, the water creates significant drag on them. Notice the right float contacts first; this creates asymmetrical drag, and the slowing action is dramatic, causing the plane to yaw. This would not have been a problem had both floats touched simultaneously. Also notice the fast sink rate, which amplifies the drag and thus the yaw & resultant loss of control.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
@SenorSpode
Actually (from a float pilot's perspective), what happened here was a float dig due to touching down with too much airspeed. The floats were not angled up enough at touchdown, causing the dig. As simple as that. The only other potential factor was landing on the "downwind" float first (notice the left to right drift on short final), that would have exacerbated the float dig. Everything else only dictated HOW the accident would unfold, not that occurred in the first place.
RadManFG 11 months ago
@RadManFG Well, we can't all be as perfect as you. NEXT!
SenorSpode 11 months ago
@SenorSpode
Wow, who pooped in your cornflakes?
RadManFG 11 months ago
They sure are buoyant ain't they?
dmanbass 1 year ago
This pilot was going a bit too slow for a safe landing. Much more ground speed would have been required.
yynnmmbb 1 year ago
James Bond?
PicoRivera62 1 year ago
quite the ride
wristp1n 1 year ago
Damn is it really THAT easy to get that messed up if you don't land correctly on a float plane?
ascitiesburn2001 1 year ago
@ascitiesburn2001 Yes, it is. Water is just as damaging as concrete, if not worse.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
Too many camera angles for it to be real.
sdrapaka 1 year ago
@sdrapaka That's because this landing was being filmed for a movie, the crash was unintentional. They were forced to incorporate the crash into the plot. Nobody was hurt. Agamemnon Films was forced to assume financial responsibility for the crash.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
The cake is a lie!
TehNetherlands 1 year ago 3
nice landing
neillypilot 1 year ago
and still it didn't brake !!! It was very light though. Love this airplane and it hurts too see it crash. even if it's for a film...
charlieechovictor 1 year ago
What a good pilot XD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JasMasKas 1 year ago
WTF just happened?!?! O.o
1Nekit1 1 year ago
After the unintentional crash the start of the movie was re-written to take advantage of the spectacular footage. No question this was bad flying. You can't land a Beaver hot and heavy.
kixigvak 1 year ago
Holy shit. What the fuck did he do?!
89Sunbird 1 year ago
@89Sunbird A lot of small mistakes. Landing too fast, descent too fast, water was too smooth (creates optical illusion), left float hit first and hooked, that was it. The plane was recovered and rebuilt, however.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
pilots worst nightmare!
Lvieru96 2 years ago
There is more than one camera angle shown in this clip. It is obviously from a movie or similar. Accidents that arent planned are rarely caugnt by more than one camera angle unless it is a crowded major event like an airshow.
ChrisPCrunchy 2 years ago 24
Correct. Movie: Mother Lode, 1983, Nick Mancuso, Kim Basinger, Charlton Heston. Lake Lovelywater, BC, north of Vancouver. Crash was unintentional. Plane landed on glassy water, which is dangerous because you need some wave to gauge speed, height and rate of descent. Landed too fast, sunk too fast, flared too late, left float touched first, water drag did the rest. Nobody injured. The pane was salvaged, restored and lives life in the US now as N323RS.
SenorSpode 2 years ago 43
Wow You know your stuff. Did they use footage in the movie?
ChrisPCrunchy 2 years ago
Yep, they sure did. What you see here is footage from the movie. Mother Lode Crash Sequence in Related Videos to the right has the raw footage.
Basinger and Mancuso fly over before landing, then set up to land. Basinger asks "Have you done this before?", Mancuso states "Piece of Cake", like you hear. Afterwards, Basinger asks what they hit and Mancuso says "We hit the G-D- water!", LOL.
SenorSpode 2 years ago
You can get training to for such conditions.
FoamingAction 2 years ago
bingo
FoamingAction 2 years ago
@SenorSpode Replying to a year-old comment! Thanks; I always wondered how they wrecked a perfectly good Beaver for that film! It clearly wasn't a model, and I never guessed it was unintentional. Sure added to the drama of the movie! So just where north of Vancouver is Lake Lovelywater? I've never heard of it before.
carmium 1 year ago
@carmium Lake Lovelywater is approximately 38 miles NNW of Vancouver, BC, nestled in a mountain enclave near Squamish.
SenorSpode 1 year ago
@SenorSpode Thanks - I'll fly there. But just in GoogleEarth. 8-)
carmium 1 year ago
@SenorSpode You don't flair with floats. You set a rate of decent until you hit the water.
zuzupetals1999 11 months ago
@SenorSpode You don't flair with floats. You set a rate of decent until you hit the water. The left float hit first and caused the yaw, that was the problem. He was also coming down in a hurry and slammed the surface pretty hard. That's why the yaw rate was so violent.
zuzupetals1999 11 months ago
@SenorSpode
You have it partially right. My family is a commercial bush flying family. You dont ever rely on watching the water for airspeed to touch down. This pilot simply forced a landing to early putting the float beyond its forward limit.Happens a lot on small lakes mainly with obstructions around it.Simply put,Young Bold Pilot out to prove themselves=Not an old pilot.Nice FAA incident report to keep you from flying commercially.Thanks for creating more job security for me!Tard.
JDUCRIDER 1 month ago in playlist More videos from werbilx
@SenorSpode
For Float pilots: This could've been avoided by creating drag by crabbing the approach to slow down to safe touch down speed. careful not to crab at a nose up attitude. this takes practice without obstructions and knowing your rate of airspeed loss to descent ratio by feel AND gauges before attempting it. only attempt it when load weight is the same as practiced until you get great at it. This is a great training video for float ratings!
JDUCRIDER 1 month ago in playlist More videos from werbilx
Comment removed
FoamingAction 2 years ago
I think that's been staged. There must have been something that was used to catch a float to swing the plane like that. The movement is to abrupt.
dmn01 2 years ago
@dmn01
unfortunately you're totally wrong. if you think about how fast the float is hitting the water, it's basically like hitting a wall. landing a float plane is hard. trust me.
mrtk001 2 years ago
actually this scene in the movies was an accident. The script never called for a crash. But they got it on film so they used it. You can read all about it on google. The reason it swung like that is because one float caught the water first which caused a drag on on side of the plane. As the plane twisted, the pilot tried to counter steer with the rudder - that is why he swung quickly the other way when he came back out of the water.
swarbricke 2 years ago
I respect you. You did research! And you're spot-on accurate. How do I know? My dad and I knew the guy who brokered the plane, Mr. A. Beaulieu, Vancouver BC. He told us all about it.
SenorSpode 2 years ago
She was pretty buoyant.
Wonder how they did this?
flanksteak2 2 years ago
Watch for the full left rudder deflection as soon as he touches down. This was definately planned.
johnscck 2 years ago
Given the camera angles and one of the floats missing the bottom, causing the float to dig in, I would also say that this was on purpose.
dopplerman 2 years ago
This was a purposeful accident filmed for a movie..
Rowdypilot 2 years ago
The script didn't actually call for that... they had a pilot that refused to do that landing because they wanted the airplane to come down the mountain and land on glassy water... the pilot that replaced him said he could do it. Guess not
Kzanol69 2 years ago
did not flair early enough due to glassy water conditions
FloatFlyer91 2 years ago
WTF?! did he come in too fast or somthing???
SQIRT25 2 years ago
Comment removed
SenorSpode 2 years ago