@certainlymaybe SC2 takes no skill at all. Broodwar takes WAY more skill than SC2, and so does DoW. Master SC2 player would have a much APM than a Broodwar or DoW master, because SC2 is literally a simplified Broodwar.
Sc: building an 'ARMY" (not spamming), may take about an hour (depends of the player's skills), limits on resources, It is sci-fi, alot of mods, map creator (since original), battlefield is not too messed up like wh.
Wh: Squads, quick-ish game, unlimited resources, Sci-fi + fantasy, no map edit (i think), battlefield is a mess, No air units, No nukes but there can be hero/heroine on a normal game
Wh: table top game with figurines,Sc is a better rts than wh (ive benn researching)
Quick-ish game = Of course, Dow2 gameplay is meant to be fast and furious due to a preference for blitzkrieg type of tactics and split-second decisions.
Unlimited resources = Yes and no. Resources are unlimited but destroying and hampering opponent resources are still key tactics in dow2.
Battlefield is a mess. = Yes, i admit things can get really hairy quickly. But squad based combat makes playing it cleaner
@cashpogixd Wh : Table top game with figurines will be more strategic than starcraft will ever be. There are so many rules in table-top that cover everything from instant kill rules, cover rules, glancing shots off vehicles. Listing them here will be silly.
Starcraft is a more classic rts than WH. Warhammer is a game requiring more skill with their armies and tactics rather than base building. Both are sides of the same coin. They are equally good.
@MineIts I maybe not good at sc but it takes me about 40 mins to play on broodwar ( w/ cheats to mess around) and since i only got starter ed on sc2 it takes about 40 mins for me to play against easy
There is a word for this and it's called a stomp. Fluff wise SC doesn't stand a chance. Maybe if everything was 10 times more powerful and they had 2000X more of it MAYBE they would stand a chance. For the games both are very good but SC is better balanced, has more mods and more players though I find WH to be more tactically oriented and is a harder game but SC is better.
@nadien98 But Warhammer takes place 40 000 years after Starcraft lol. And It's style is called "GrimDark" by the fans. Everything is actually extremely advanced but it's got hat unique Gothic feel to it that makes it so awesome!!
@nadien98 much more futuristic...what? Care to explain? I think both are very good sci fi-games but they both have they're ups & downs...for instance WH has much more of this grimmer and "dirtier"-look meaning the games are been pretty much de-saturated, while SC has more colors, guns/armor in WH are REALLY detailed while those in SC are more simple looking, slick if you will. Characters in SC are more stylized and those in WH have a lot of story/history behind them...
what a lot of people are saying is that starcraft is copying warhammer (which it probably is) but even so Starcraft in a lot of people's opinion is a much better game then warhammer 40k. So my question is what gives?
@jorgefl1965 People mostly like fast paced strategy, like CoD is prefered than Battlefield, because it's fast. Red Alert is much more famous than Generals because well its fast. Well that's how I see it anyways. :)
@jorgefl1965 I'll give 40k fans the fact that SC steals a good portion 40k's visual style completely, but I dispute the claim that SC is a rip off of 40k. The stories are actually really, really different if you bother to look at them, as are the units that people keep calling rip offs. Example: The marines. In 40k they're godly supersoldiers bred by the emprah who kick ass and STEHL REHN down on the enemy to bring the emprah's glorious fury. In SC they're expendable grunt troops.
Allen Adham was a 40k player when he founed Blizzard with his friends back in the day.
I would basically say the armies created (Zerg, Terran. Protoss/Nids, Imperium, Eldar) are very similair to 40k's... I wont accuse them of rip offs but I think they are rip offs but some new taste into it
40k was developed in 1975 when it was called "Rogue Trader"
SC developed a lot later
SC's storyline is complete unique with its storyline somewhat tho
@SteelFyire reason why they are "expendable grunt troops" is sc took plce in 25th/26th century (their tech would be younger than 40k's) and warhammer took place on the year 40k dumass
the guy said that each unit has a wide variety but from what i seen thats not true i mean how do i deal with an imperial guard coming with a chimera full of un its?
So far everything i heard is STARCRAFT COPIED WARHAMMER but i think the minecraft (if u heard it copied a game called infinnminer but now minecraft is better and much more fun)u noe what, ingnore this comment
Wtf, why are people comparing an RTS computer game to a boardgame with painted models? Is it because the imagery in starcraft was very likely inspired atleast in part by warhammer? This is nothing to argue about. Just like WH obviously would have borrowed ideas from other sci-fi stories that came before them and made them their own. Thats what happens people. Get over it.
this is pointless. Instead, I want to see Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos and Jim Raynor, in terms of popularity and power. As in in terms of their power how much more badass are they. For example Gabrial Angelos saved tartarus, help crush the tyranids, fight against the chaos, and fight against the strong and unspeakable horror. For Jim Raynor, fighting against an entire army of zerg with standard weak weapon, liberate humanity, and save his girlfriend. Now let the war begin.
@cashpogixd blizzard didn't "copy" warhammer, but it is heavily inspired. Games Workshop, which owns the 25 year old franchise of warhammer and 40k, licensed blizzard to make the games we know as Warcraft and Starcraft as originally warhammer games. They later pulled the plug; blizzard having done a lot of work, decided not to scrap the project and just change slightly instead.
@cashpogixd Agreed in fact Starcraft used to be a warhammer game but half way (or meybe just started) games workshop backed out . And plus one of Employees of GW is now a Blizzard creative director
It depends , if you played starcraft first you will like starcraft more becouse then is more original to you and somethimes even nostalgic . and same thing if you played warhammer first . I played starcraft first and it is better to me . but that doesn't mean it is better game . it is more original to me
@TheVikiLaki not really i played SC first then i droped it like a bad habit when I saw warhammer 40k. Sorry more races more blood more war thats my pick. SC2 is still a good game for some people.
@TheVikiLaki not really i played SC first then i droped it like a bad habit when I saw warhammer 40k. Sorry more races more blood more war thats my pick. SC2 is still a good game for some people.
@momo if you are familliar with 40k universe you will inevitbly love dow 2 more, however if your not the work of this. 40k is more fast paced and combat based. Starcraft is more about building and takes awhile for a match to get going, oh and retribution is better than both and is more popular, so just get that
If you prefer games whose whole story and background are ripped off from epic fantasy masterpieces such as warhammer (yeah I'm talking about sc/wc) and the gameplays idiot proof simplicity is only to be topped by a marketing strategy that makes it look like gaming became an everday casual thing being done from rednecks to top-actors, yeah, go for blizzard games. For the rest who actually seek a challange in the game they play and have a sense for originals and true atmosphere there is warhammer.
Look there both good games. So people who think one game is beater than hte other THERE THE SAME! Plus people who think Starcraft riped off warhammer there wrong. Blizzard is a Japiniese company. And they have never herd of Dawn of war. Even thogh I love starcraft There both good games SO SHUT UP
@kidlink4OoT LMFAO U FUCKING MORON XD. Blizzard and WarHammer know each other Very well and worked closely in the past. a LOT of things were ripped off from the WarHammer and u would have to be fucking blind not to see it. WarHammer (made by Games Workshop games) has been around for longer than Blizzard, and had the ideas first... and Blizard is an American company u drop kick...
@tris244 Yes I know that. That was my retarded little brother. Always on my computer, screwing everything up. Sorry about that little crack head. Still trying to get him to stop. :/ Sorry and Im going to make sure he dosn't do it again. I sware I wana beat that kid...
Both games are good, but DoW and the Warhammer verse overall is better than SC. Especially since SC was copied or "inspired" from DoW. You SC fanboys should be thankful. Without Warhammer, there would be no SC.
@firetools I'm a SC fanboy and I admit DOW inspired SC and am thankful. But now the two games are totally different. I mean yeah they make look similar but DOW is more scifi/fantasy while SC is scifi/western
@SPARTAIN088 depends how you see it. I myself havn't played Dawn of War, but I am going to try it definently! But I'd like to say that SC2 is bigger when it comes to community and tournaments.
@TheVikiLaki sorry I tried starcraft 2 never could get into the mmod and never will, im not saying warhammer is good but starcraft 2 is complete crap compared to many other games,
ever heard of command and conquer, tiberian sun? company of heroes? lots of games to explore but people got them selves wrapped around this like some COD fanboys.
@IIIMAVER1CK that is because it was good older games back then were good the companies cared for their games, the sad fact is that C&C is pretty gone...sales have dropped and people are playing the older ones and not the new ones
@DBTFxC LOL if your into wow graphics yes. if you want to play a real game you should try DOW Dark Crusade it has base building and takes far more strategy. and isnt the same. :D
@IIIMAVER1CK the first DOW requires very very little micro. ill admit i have not played DOW2. but starcraft 1 and 2 have always required far more skill to be good at.
@IIIMAVER1CK ur such a gay little SC fanboy man i respect if you like Star Craft. and YOU have no fuckin idea how to play DOW or DOW 2. cuz you would know that DOW takes micro if you actually would have played it against a good player and macro it takes alot of that you have to continously upgrade your units and upgrade your income or you will lose. stop wasting your time trying to thumb down a game that is funoh not to forget you are talking about the TT and TT is an expensive hobby. no kids.
@DBTFxC and Dawn of War is for Men. your good in SC im in Good in DOW games. now shut the hell up with SC 2 is the best. Its your opinion man doesnt mean your right DOW is more about tactics and managing squads. where SC 2 is well more about macroing and being faster than your opponent. THey are both good games. although SC 2 just lacks in entertainment. but has a strong balanced multiplayer. DOW is about Fun and carnage. SC 2 well its nothing new.
@IIIMAVER1CK LMAO DOW is for men? lmao more like for 11 year old kids who think little models are fun to play with. DOW is not more about tactics and involves far less micro and macro. go play a good game.
@IIIMAVER1CK not to forget your playing a cheap Knock off. Blizzard stole or let me say borrowed heavily from 40k. U can go wiki it. And not to forget Look at the WOW graphics looking units in Starcraft. Star Craft is a good game but its UNORIGINAL. And sure star craft has a competetive multiplayer stfu i know that. but its not as fun as DOW 1 2 and is totally different. has different mechanics too. SC is rock paper scizzors.where like i said before DOW is more innovative and brutal.
@Kalostaphor starcraft 2 just click all units and sent them to an enemy base ? dude play the game plz. warhammer is good but starcraft 2 is just a better game play the single player campagin and you will se :)
@DBTFxC Dude dont put the whole skill thing in here cause video games in general dont take skill. Doin stuff in RL takes skill. and you cant say anything about DOW or DOW 2 cause they are both different games if you try FOK DOW you will change your opinion very fast because its True TO the Codex. which means you have to be VERY Very Strategic on what your gonna utilise with your opponent same with DOW 2 just DOW is more micro oriented. where FOK is hella hard. alot more armies etc
@IIIMAVER1CK lmao games dont take skill? go watch Slayers_boxer play in some of the biggest gaming tournaments in the world of hundreds of thousands of dollars. (by the way DW doest have a slot at all let alone for big money) people play SC as a living and the best of the best are rich. and big concellation it is being close to the codex when the game it self is poor. SC is everything DOW wants to be.
@DBTFxC matter of fact i did play SC 2 not saying im the best at it. but i was gold. and yes 7 out of 10 games mostly play out the same. people use that what they are comfortable with. thats how it IS you cant argue around that. My friend was plat and he quit for the same reason. He says SC is pretty much all about timing scouting and countering and building a shit ton of workers. around 40 workers.
@IIIMAVER1CK lmao the reason you where only in gold is because it seems you allways did the same build. thats the only possible way what your saying could be true. all thought with the 3 races and 100's of builds between them i dont see how they could play out the same. maybe you should have tryed other builds if you where stuck in gold league? noob. and 40 workers? no wonder your where so low, you need around 70 in a macro game. go learn to play.
@DBTFxC I actually do different builds problem is that you can hardley use ghosts or reapers because they are practically useless late game. and you should go learn to play DOW 2 and DOW Dark crusade. you probly would suck in those games too. why should i get 70 workers if i can use the extra money to build more troops mule drop does all the work for you. and i wasnt even talkin about late game. cause SC 2 games rarely take more than 10 minutes because a good push ends the game like nothing.
@IIIMAVER1CK in case you dont believe me search Lim Yo-Hwan on wikipedia or google, he has anual earnings of $490,000 a year from sponsors alone. that does not include cash prizes for winning. all from SC. DOW will never have this type of following or fan base. why? its a poor game that takes no skill
@DBTFxC its what people prefer DOW is about tactics. i wouldnt say its easy either. SC 2 is more of a routine game most games are always the same. you scout build workers and build a shit ton of guys. DOW in the other hand NEVER NEVER plays out the same.
People who call one game or the other a rip-off are retards because sure as hell there is a book or some other media that contains the same ideas years before either franchise used them. Did they rip-off the older work?
Maybe, but probably not, the thing is that you can't be original nowadays as somebody else always thought of it first, and if you think you're original then you've yet to run into the older work, I know from personal experience.
Characters in Dawn of War 2 look like they're chewing gum when they're talking lol .Personally i like Starcrtaft 2 because they have base building and you can have units in greater numbers.
@zubagvatic SC 2 is fun only in 2 v 2 or 1 v 1 but it gets kinda boring after a while for me. same thing all the time. where in DOW 2 your units can be used in many different ways.
@zubagvatic go to DOW and they are chewing bubblegum while they are kicking ass. DOW FOK would be just right for you its true to table top and you have basebuilding.
Imperium of Man's Adeptus Astartes vs SC Terran Marines. Imperium would own them. Not to mention Titans and all other Mechanicum stuff. Eldar vs Protoss. I'd like to see those puny zealots take on a howling banshee squad. Tyranids vs Zerg. I have to admit this one is pretty close. But Tyranids would win. As for the games themselves. DOW2 is better in terms of gameplay and realism. A squad would take cover when engaging and they switch to melee. SC units don't. They just fight. DAWN OF WAR FTW!!!
@billyboyjennings I was thinking of the infested Kerrigan. She might tip the balance to favor the Zerg. Then again the Tyranids are just so damn cool. Imagine the Zerg invading Macragge. They don't stand a chance against the Space Marines. The Tyranids however, made the Ultramarines suffer.
@drecie14 No, she wouldn't. The Tyranids have 12 galaxies worth of biomass. Their Hive fleets are so massive that they can be seen on the galactic scale. Quintillions at least. They also have countless psyker creatures.
Not even infested Kerrigan would be able to save the Zerg from being completely overwhelmed and destroyed.
O also i like the realism in DoW 2.I mean when a zealot gets in meele with a marine what happens?The marine keeps shooting whilst blades chop him down :|.In DoW 2 when a slugga gets near a tactical marine what happens?The slugga uses meele and TIES up the ranged tactical marine forcing it too fight in meele where it is inferior.Dawn of war 2 has ALOT of stuff that make it more micro intensive and strategical than usuall combat in SC2.However Sc2 focuses on buildings and harvesting etc.DoW2 forme
Both games are good its just that what you preffer traditional builder RTS or a more micro and unit oriented RTS?.I like both but i like DoW 2 more :).More races,alot of cool abilites and the awesome x retreat button and the fact that u have squads.
@Marduk401 Warhammer was created in 1983 and Warhammer 40k was created in 1987. Starcraft was made in 1998.
I'm not saying its a complete copy, merely took inspiration which nearly every fantasy and scifi genre do. Warhammer is quite largly based ob the generic fantasy lore with elves, humans, orcs and dwarves while 40k took inspiration from the original warhammer series just teched them up as well as other things such as the star ship troopers novel which star craft did also.
@SenseiWuzi actualy we cannot say that warhammer stole space marine from starcraf or the opposite because the marine is inspired from the classic space suit that we use even now But what about the tyranids??? I'dont see any of them before?
@Marduk401 Tyranids and Zerg are very similar to the Arachnids in Starship troopers. (The book, not the movie.) Starship troopers was released in 1959.
@cashpogixd just search for space crusade videp game(1992)and then tell us which game is older...plz man don't answer without you search it first cuz you maybe say something stupid again...!!
of course SC is a copy of WH40k but then thats like saying WH40k is a copy of WH Fantasy but with bolters, which is a copy of Dungeons and Dragons Original which was taken from Mythology and Tolkien. Oh and who gives a shit. If you like one over the other, congrats! I personally think Dawn of War is AWESOME but I used to play WH40k tabletop and Epic 40k tabletop...so Im biased. Concerning which one came out first? Warhammer and 40k came before Warcraft and Starcraft.
on the first mission of dawn of war 1, few of imperial guards was shot by the captain or wot ever his rank was just because they werent fighting good enough.
in starcraft, marines dont get shot liked that, they COUNTING ON EACH OTHER TO GET THE JOB DONE! OR DIE TRYING IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. BECAUSE SOME THINGS IS JUST WORTH FIGHTING FOR.
The commissars (that was the rank) don't approve of imperial guardsmen showing any kind of fear, cowardice, weakness or blasphemy. usually they have pretty radical views and will just shoot fleeing guardsmen as an example to the others. It seems to work pretty well. :)
dawn of war copied starcraft especially at the marines.
starcraft 1 was released at march 30 1998 and warhammer was released at feb 19 2009
you can actually space and ultra marines looks like the normal marines in starcraft. you can watch it stacraft ghost intro... (starcraft ghost was released at 2002) another reason they copied
game: warhammer it is mixed sci-fi and fantasy which sucks
starcraft 2: it is still sci-fi even the protoss has physic powers
@cashpogixd Warhammer 40k was a boardgame made by Games Workshop in 1987, based on the Warhammer franchise they created in 1983. Blizzard copied the idea for Warcraft from Warhammer, and copied the idea of Starcraft from Warhammer 40k. Games Workshop actually hired Blizzard to make a video game of Warhammer, but they weren't happy with the results, and Blizzard instead released Warcraft: Orcs and Humans in 1994. So, who stole from who?
@Marduk401 Starcraft came out in 1998, Warhammer 40K came out in 1987, more than a decade earlier It's pretty obvious who copied who. There was more than a decade between Warhammer (1983) and Warcraft (1994) too, so again... who copied who?
I never thought I`d say this but Starcraft 2 is terribly mediocre. Devoid of strategy. Its lame and boring. Whoever is faster on the keyboard simply wins. No out-thinking your enemy or anything strategic. Looking forward to trying DoW 2.
@Scynable Starcraft II isn't as bad as you say it is. Saying that it's entirely devoid of strategy is true, for bronze league players who repeatedly fall to 6pools and cannon rushes. However, once you make it into the higher leagues of play, strategy begins to become more and more important. Also, if you truly believe that there is no strategy at all, just watch some GSL matches or the IPL championship between KiWiKaKi and Idra.
@Scynable Your only looking at a basic opening, theres tier 2 and then the final tier which requires the most to think about and 1 simple mistake in your strategy will have a snowball effect towards endgame.
i enjoyed both of these games... forget which one is better, warhammer came first, but starcraft is still a solid universe with an intriguing back story, they are both awesome, and different gameplay styles, both involving quick reflex's and a good mind for strategy and timing.
@awpingturtle -.- but I cant stand Dawn of War players, QQing so much saying that Starcraft is a ripoff of the Warhammer universe. War Hammer 40k sure, the story came out before the game, BUT THE GAME, starcraft came out before WARHAMMER, Starcraft also requires extreme skill to play, it is like playing the piano, with the mindset of a grandchessmaster, really, I do like both series, but people need to stop QQing about the ripoff and things like that...
Much lower APM***
xXxDarkAdeptusxXx 2 weeks ago
@certainlymaybe SC2 takes no skill at all. Broodwar takes WAY more skill than SC2, and so does DoW. Master SC2 player would have a much APM than a Broodwar or DoW master, because SC2 is literally a simplified Broodwar.
xXxDarkAdeptusxXx 2 weeks ago
@xXxDarkAdeptusxXx When Heart of the Swarm comes out, it will be exactly like Broodwars again.
Boomstick898 5 hours ago
Any idiot can play SC2, but you actually need a brain to play DoW.
xXxDarkAdeptusxXx 3 weeks ago
@xXxDarkAdeptusxXx Completely wrong. Compare a Bronze league player, to let's say, a Master league player.
certainlymaybe 2 weeks ago
Dawn of War II was a complete fail. Dawn of War I was way better.
TriEdgeAI 1 month ago 4
@TriEdgeAI dawn of war 1 focuses more on numbers
dawn of war 2 focuses more on tactics
i wish to see dawn of war 3 to focuses on real massive battles mix of total war - world in conflict - supreme commander
elasolezito 2 weeks ago
@TriEdgeAI my computer is only good enuf to run dark crusade
DOW 1 FTWWWW
MarinesRProud 1 week ago
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MoterCrozz 1 month ago
ok my opinion.
Sc: building an 'ARMY" (not spamming), may take about an hour (depends of the player's skills), limits on resources, It is sci-fi, alot of mods, map creator (since original), battlefield is not too messed up like wh.
Wh: Squads, quick-ish game, unlimited resources, Sci-fi + fantasy, no map edit (i think), battlefield is a mess, No air units, No nukes but there can be hero/heroine on a normal game
Wh: table top game with figurines,Sc is a better rts than wh (ive benn researching)
cashpogixd 1 month ago
@cashpogixd I SHALL COUNTER ALL YOUR POINTS.
Quick-ish game = Of course, Dow2 gameplay is meant to be fast and furious due to a preference for blitzkrieg type of tactics and split-second decisions.
Unlimited resources = Yes and no. Resources are unlimited but destroying and hampering opponent resources are still key tactics in dow2.
Battlefield is a mess. = Yes, i admit things can get really hairy quickly. But squad based combat makes playing it cleaner
No nukes = There are nukes for each race.
armeggeon 1 month ago
@cashpogixd Wh : Table top game with figurines will be more strategic than starcraft will ever be. There are so many rules in table-top that cover everything from instant kill rules, cover rules, glancing shots off vehicles. Listing them here will be silly.
Starcraft is a more classic rts than WH. Warhammer is a game requiring more skill with their armies and tactics rather than base building. Both are sides of the same coin. They are equally good.
armeggeon 1 month ago
@cashpogixd SC? 1 HOUR FOR AN ARMY?
You definitely haven't played Starcraft.
You can build a Zerg army in around 10 minutes!
MineIts 1 month ago
@MineIts I mean the gameplay could take for hours and yes what you said is true, i spawned an army zerglings in around 7-8 mins
cashpogixd 3 weeks ago
@cashpogixd The gameplay for an hour?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
A long Protoss vs Protoss game is maximum 40 minutes, mostly 20 minutes.
MineIts 2 weeks ago
@MineIts I maybe not good at sc but it takes me about 40 mins to play on broodwar ( w/ cheats to mess around) and since i only got starter ed on sc2 it takes about 40 mins for me to play against easy
cashpogixd 2 weeks ago
@cashpogixd Then you my dear friend, are terrible at the game.
MineIts 2 weeks ago
@MineIts True that but that doesn't stop me from liking the game :)
cashpogixd 2 weeks ago
@cashpogixd Did I write it should?
MineIts 2 weeks ago
what i see here are copies of Aliens, Predator, and star wars.
kingtigertank42 2 months ago
@kingtigertank42 heh true but everything comes from somewhere and copy does not matter its how they work
hepalamukala 2 months ago
There is a word for this and it's called a stomp. Fluff wise SC doesn't stand a chance. Maybe if everything was 10 times more powerful and they had 2000X more of it MAYBE they would stand a chance. For the games both are very good but SC is better balanced, has more mods and more players though I find WH to be more tactically oriented and is a harder game but SC is better.
SPARTAIN088 3 months ago
dawn of war 2 has better special effects but starcraft 2 tine best textures in the graphics and also starcraft 2 is much more futuristic
nadien98 3 months ago
@nadien98 But Warhammer takes place 40 000 years after Starcraft lol. And It's style is called "GrimDark" by the fans. Everything is actually extremely advanced but it's got hat unique Gothic feel to it that makes it so awesome!!
SPARTAIN088 3 months ago 8
@nadien98 much more futuristic...what? Care to explain? I think both are very good sci fi-games but they both have they're ups & downs...for instance WH has much more of this grimmer and "dirtier"-look meaning the games are been pretty much de-saturated, while SC has more colors, guns/armor in WH are REALLY detailed while those in SC are more simple looking, slick if you will. Characters in SC are more stylized and those in WH have a lot of story/history behind them...
anagron63 3 months ago
Imagine Starcraft 2 with those sweet gunfire animations.
atheniandpa 3 months ago
what a lot of people are saying is that starcraft is copying warhammer (which it probably is) but even so Starcraft in a lot of people's opinion is a much better game then warhammer 40k. So my question is what gives?
jorgefl1965 3 months ago
@jorgefl1965 People mostly like fast paced strategy, like CoD is prefered than Battlefield, because it's fast. Red Alert is much more famous than Generals because well its fast. Well that's how I see it anyways. :)
Glenofwar 3 months ago
@jorgefl1965 I'll give 40k fans the fact that SC steals a good portion 40k's visual style completely, but I dispute the claim that SC is a rip off of 40k. The stories are actually really, really different if you bother to look at them, as are the units that people keep calling rip offs. Example: The marines. In 40k they're godly supersoldiers bred by the emprah who kick ass and STEHL REHN down on the enemy to bring the emprah's glorious fury. In SC they're expendable grunt troops.
SteelFyire 3 months ago
@SteelFyire
Allen Adham was a 40k player when he founed Blizzard with his friends back in the day.
I would basically say the armies created (Zerg, Terran. Protoss/Nids, Imperium, Eldar) are very similair to 40k's... I wont accuse them of rip offs but I think they are rip offs but some new taste into it
40k was developed in 1975 when it was called "Rogue Trader"
SC developed a lot later
SC's storyline is complete unique with its storyline somewhat tho
SC IS DIFFERENT but based off 40k tbh
MastuTHEIF 3 months ago
@SteelFyire reason why they are "expendable grunt troops" is sc took plce in 25th/26th century (their tech would be younger than 40k's) and warhammer took place on the year 40k dumass
cashpogixd 1 month ago
the guy said that each unit has a wide variety but from what i seen thats not true i mean how do i deal with an imperial guard coming with a chimera full of un its?
TemplarDon 3 months ago
So far everything i heard is STARCRAFT COPIED WARHAMMER but i think the minecraft (if u heard it copied a game called infinnminer but now minecraft is better and much more fun)u noe what, ingnore this comment
TemplarDon 3 months ago
Wtf, why are people comparing an RTS computer game to a boardgame with painted models? Is it because the imagery in starcraft was very likely inspired atleast in part by warhammer? This is nothing to argue about. Just like WH obviously would have borrowed ideas from other sci-fi stories that came before them and made them their own. Thats what happens people. Get over it.
trobertw 4 months ago
this is pointless. Instead, I want to see Chapter Master Gabriel Angelos and Jim Raynor, in terms of popularity and power. As in in terms of their power how much more badass are they. For example Gabrial Angelos saved tartarus, help crush the tyranids, fight against the chaos, and fight against the strong and unspeakable horror. For Jim Raynor, fighting against an entire army of zerg with standard weak weapon, liberate humanity, and save his girlfriend. Now let the war begin.
RX117STARoTOAPRIME 4 months ago
CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!?
If blizzard really copied warhammer (im not saying they did) , im pretty sure warhammer copied too
cashpogixd 4 months ago
@cashpogixd i like both for dal tanesss , or for the emperor
peterkrc 4 months ago
@cashpogixd blizzard didn't "copy" warhammer, but it is heavily inspired. Games Workshop, which owns the 25 year old franchise of warhammer and 40k, licensed blizzard to make the games we know as Warcraft and Starcraft as originally warhammer games. They later pulled the plug; blizzard having done a lot of work, decided not to scrap the project and just change slightly instead.
fiirosepixi 4 months ago
@fiirosepixi I'm on starcraft side btw
cashpogixd 4 months ago
@cashpogixd Agreed in fact Starcraft used to be a warhammer game but half way (or meybe just started) games workshop backed out . And plus one of Employees of GW is now a Blizzard creative director
LorenzFear 3 months ago
@LorenzFear woot woot! hurray for starcraft!!
and are you telling me that starcraft is basiclly just another warhammer 40k?
cashpogixd 3 months ago
@LorenzFear woot woot! hurray for starcraft!!
and are you telling me that starcraft is basiclly just another warhammer 40k?
cashpogixd 3 months ago
It depends , if you played starcraft first you will like starcraft more becouse then is more original to you and somethimes even nostalgic . and same thing if you played warhammer first . I played starcraft first and it is better to me . but that doesn't mean it is better game . it is more original to me
TheVikiLaki 4 months ago
@TheVikiLaki not really i played SC first then i droped it like a bad habit when I saw warhammer 40k. Sorry more races more blood more war thats my pick. SC2 is still a good game for some people.
Letitallfuckingburn 4 months ago
@TheVikiLaki not really i played SC first then i droped it like a bad habit when I saw warhammer 40k. Sorry more races more blood more war thats my pick. SC2 is still a good game for some people.
Letitallfuckingburn 4 months ago
i personally prefer dawn of war 1 The dark crusade combine that with
Firestorm over kronus 3.6 mod and u have the best RTS of the last decade
p.s i love stronghold crusader too
Dknightxs 4 months ago
1:48 .. i have starcraft 2..
but this ISNT EVEN IN THE GAME..
Deathbringer99699 4 months ago
@momo if you are familliar with 40k universe you will inevitbly love dow 2 more, however if your not the work of this. 40k is more fast paced and combat based. Starcraft is more about building and takes awhile for a match to get going, oh and retribution is better than both and is more popular, so just get that
InnocentEvil109 4 months ago
@InnocentEvil109 ok,thanx i gues i should listen to you
momo200090 4 months ago
what should i buy sc 2 or dow2 ?????????
someone help me please.
momo200090 4 months ago
Too stupid for Starcraft 2? Try Dawn of War instead.
ReaverMMA 4 months ago
WAAAAGHH!! DOW2!!
DakkaDakkaboy 4 months ago
If you prefer games whose whole story and background are ripped off from epic fantasy masterpieces such as warhammer (yeah I'm talking about sc/wc) and the gameplays idiot proof simplicity is only to be topped by a marketing strategy that makes it look like gaming became an everday casual thing being done from rednecks to top-actors, yeah, go for blizzard games. For the rest who actually seek a challange in the game they play and have a sense for originals and true atmosphere there is warhammer.
soldmycatforheroin 4 months ago
The fanboys are strong in these parts.
gaphary 4 months ago
AL STARCRAFT 2 FANS THUMBS UP !!!!!!!
momo200090 4 months ago
Look there both good games. So people who think one game is beater than hte other THERE THE SAME! Plus people who think Starcraft riped off warhammer there wrong. Blizzard is a Japiniese company. And they have never herd of Dawn of war. Even thogh I love starcraft There both good games SO SHUT UP
kidlink4OoT 4 months ago
@kidlink4OoT blizzard isnt jap rofl.
MrBangJung 4 months ago
@kidlink4OoT what kind of utterly stupid and illiterate fuck are you?
soldmycatforheroin 4 months ago
@soldmycatforheroin Says the one who wants to start a flame war just for someone giving there opinoin
kidlink4OoT 4 months ago
@kidlink4OoT LMFAO U FUCKING MORON XD. Blizzard and WarHammer know each other Very well and worked closely in the past. a LOT of things were ripped off from the WarHammer and u would have to be fucking blind not to see it. WarHammer (made by Games Workshop games) has been around for longer than Blizzard, and had the ideas first... and Blizard is an American company u drop kick...
tris244 4 months ago
@tris244 Yes I know that. That was my retarded little brother. Always on my computer, screwing everything up. Sorry about that little crack head. Still trying to get him to stop. :/ Sorry and Im going to make sure he dosn't do it again. I sware I wana beat that kid...
kidlink4OoT 4 months ago
@kidlink4OoT kk all good mate
tris244 4 months ago
FOR THE EMPEROR YOU BLIZZARD SUCKERS !!!!!! WE ARE THE BEST AND WE FUCK THE REST !!!! DAWN OF WAR RULES AND WILL REMAIN AS SUCH.-
mantharas77 5 months ago
Starcraft=Warhammer 40k guide tutorial for dumies.......
ichko3 5 months ago
Both games are good, but DoW and the Warhammer verse overall is better than SC. Especially since SC was copied or "inspired" from DoW. You SC fanboys should be thankful. Without Warhammer, there would be no SC.
firetools 5 months ago
@firetools I'm a SC fanboy and I admit DOW inspired SC and am thankful. But now the two games are totally different. I mean yeah they make look similar but DOW is more scifi/fantasy while SC is scifi/western
blindoutlaw 5 months ago
@firetools we are thankful as you guys gave blizzard inspiration, which later became the best rts known to mankind. thank you :)
MrBangJung 4 months ago
Warhammer IZ DA BIGGEST N DA STRONGEZT!
MoterCrozz 5 months ago
@MoterCrozz WARHAMMER IS GREEN... BECAUSE GREEN IS BETTA!!!
paperi1234 5 months ago
@paperi1234 tho red one's go fastah
commando1124 4 months ago
even DOW Dark Crusade beats SC 2 not that hard.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
Warhammer is manlier. Starcraft says "You have not enough minerals." while Warhammer - "You lack requisition worm!"
SPARTAIN088 5 months ago
Starcraft 2 has its own MLG spot, Dawn of War does not. No big deal...
Sevieboy22 5 months ago
the only reason I see warhammer having a slight upperhand is the fact that you don't waste time building shit. I want to fight, not build.
SadisticReviews 5 months ago
Star Craft: Wings of Liberty has better multiplayer and Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War II has better graphics and champaign. <3
wallhackergotdammit 5 months ago
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wallhackergotdammit 5 months ago
SC2 For teh Win
DominionMarine212 6 months ago
@TheVikiLaki im talking about westwood,
dont know westwood? look them up? still dont like them? then you dont know where strategy games came from,
bye.
Kalostaphor 6 months ago
Warhammer is bigga! 'Nuff said.
SPARTAIN088 6 months ago 22
@SPARTAIN088 depends how you see it. I myself havn't played Dawn of War, but I am going to try it definently! But I'd like to say that SC2 is bigger when it comes to community and tournaments.
CritZzHD 5 months ago
@SPARTAIN088 agreed and it's like I've always said the Zerg look to much like nids to not have been copied!
avatus775544 5 months ago
@SPARTAIN088 is w40k dow 2 better or sc2 ???
momo200090 4 months ago
Warhammer is better
Why? look at a titan, now look at a thor... a thor is as big as a titan's toe...
Why #2? Volcano cannon of Titans.
Why #3? non of dem racys don't have enuff dakka fer der waaghs.
Tonyhack11 6 months ago
Here is a thought: StarCraft and Dawn of War are both good.
Fanboys? shut the fuck up
FriezaReturns00001 6 months ago
@TheVikiLaki sorry I tried starcraft 2 never could get into the mmod and never will, im not saying warhammer is good but starcraft 2 is complete crap compared to many other games,
ever heard of command and conquer, tiberian sun? company of heroes? lots of games to explore but people got them selves wrapped around this like some COD fanboys.
Kalostaphor 6 months ago
@Kalostaphor C & C sucks did you see the review from tyberium twilight? lol it failed...
FriezaReturns00001 6 months ago
@FriezaReturns00001 tyberian twilight wasnt good but look at c&c red alert. that game is so old but is fun and is Fast paced and aggressive.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK that is because it was good older games back then were good the companies cared for their games, the sad fact is that C&C is pretty gone...sales have dropped and people are playing the older ones and not the new ones
FriezaReturns00001 5 months ago
starcraft is for real gamers
DBTFxC 6 months ago
@DBTFxC LOL if your into wow graphics yes. if you want to play a real game you should try DOW Dark Crusade it has base building and takes far more strategy. and isnt the same. :D
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK LOL i got got DOW dark crusade, it involves little to no micro management and is so unbalanced its unreal.
DBTFxC 5 months ago
@DBTFxC I reckon you should try FOK its a DOW MOD that playes just like the tabletop dude and the first dow does require some micro.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK the first DOW requires very very little micro. ill admit i have not played DOW2. but starcraft 1 and 2 have always required far more skill to be good at.
DBTFxC 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK ur such a gay little SC fanboy man i respect if you like Star Craft. and YOU have no fuckin idea how to play DOW or DOW 2. cuz you would know that DOW takes micro if you actually would have played it against a good player and macro it takes alot of that you have to continously upgrade your units and upgrade your income or you will lose. stop wasting your time trying to thumb down a game that is funoh not to forget you are talking about the TT and TT is an expensive hobby. no kids.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@DBTFxC and Dawn of War is for Men. your good in SC im in Good in DOW games. now shut the hell up with SC 2 is the best. Its your opinion man doesnt mean your right DOW is more about tactics and managing squads. where SC 2 is well more about macroing and being faster than your opponent. THey are both good games. although SC 2 just lacks in entertainment. but has a strong balanced multiplayer. DOW is about Fun and carnage. SC 2 well its nothing new.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK LMAO DOW is for men? lmao more like for 11 year old kids who think little models are fun to play with. DOW is not more about tactics and involves far less micro and macro. go play a good game.
DBTFxC 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK not to forget your playing a cheap Knock off. Blizzard stole or let me say borrowed heavily from 40k. U can go wiki it. And not to forget Look at the WOW graphics looking units in Starcraft. Star Craft is a good game but its UNORIGINAL. And sure star craft has a competetive multiplayer stfu i know that. but its not as fun as DOW 1 2 and is totally different. has different mechanics too. SC is rock paper scizzors.where like i said before DOW is more innovative and brutal.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
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MrBangJung 5 months ago
CIV FTW!!!!!!!
iB1RMx 6 months ago
@DBTFxC isnt starcraft 2 just click all your units and send them into the enemy base?
Oh im sorry did i forget making a command center and then spamming SCVs to go get minerals.
Sorry man but you gotta get off that bullshit you call your high horse and start playing both games before talking like you know everything.
Kalostaphor 6 months ago
@Kalostaphor starcraft 2 just click all units and sent them to an enemy base ? dude play the game plz. warhammer is good but starcraft 2 is just a better game play the single player campagin and you will se :)
TheVikiLaki 6 months ago
If Dawn of War 1 with all the expansions would have the same graphics as DoW2, that game would own everything
EchtePoekel 6 months ago
dawn of war is for people with to little skill for SC
DBTFxC 6 months ago
@DBTFxC Dude dont put the whole skill thing in here cause video games in general dont take skill. Doin stuff in RL takes skill. and you cant say anything about DOW or DOW 2 cause they are both different games if you try FOK DOW you will change your opinion very fast because its True TO the Codex. which means you have to be VERY Very Strategic on what your gonna utilise with your opponent same with DOW 2 just DOW is more micro oriented. where FOK is hella hard. alot more armies etc
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK lmao games dont take skill? go watch Slayers_boxer play in some of the biggest gaming tournaments in the world of hundreds of thousands of dollars. (by the way DW doest have a slot at all let alone for big money) people play SC as a living and the best of the best are rich. and big concellation it is being close to the codex when the game it self is poor. SC is everything DOW wants to be.
DBTFxC 5 months ago
@DBTFxC matter of fact i did play SC 2 not saying im the best at it. but i was gold. and yes 7 out of 10 games mostly play out the same. people use that what they are comfortable with. thats how it IS you cant argue around that. My friend was plat and he quit for the same reason. He says SC is pretty much all about timing scouting and countering and building a shit ton of workers. around 40 workers.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK lmao the reason you where only in gold is because it seems you allways did the same build. thats the only possible way what your saying could be true. all thought with the 3 races and 100's of builds between them i dont see how they could play out the same. maybe you should have tryed other builds if you where stuck in gold league? noob. and 40 workers? no wonder your where so low, you need around 70 in a macro game. go learn to play.
DBTFxC 5 months ago
@DBTFxC I actually do different builds problem is that you can hardley use ghosts or reapers because they are practically useless late game. and you should go learn to play DOW 2 and DOW Dark crusade. you probly would suck in those games too. why should i get 70 workers if i can use the extra money to build more troops mule drop does all the work for you. and i wasnt even talkin about late game. cause SC 2 games rarely take more than 10 minutes because a good push ends the game like nothing.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK in case you dont believe me search Lim Yo-Hwan on wikipedia or google, he has anual earnings of $490,000 a year from sponsors alone. that does not include cash prizes for winning. all from SC. DOW will never have this type of following or fan base. why? its a poor game that takes no skill
DBTFxC 5 months ago
@DBTFxC its what people prefer DOW is about tactics. i wouldnt say its easy either. SC 2 is more of a routine game most games are always the same. you scout build workers and build a shit ton of guys. DOW in the other hand NEVER NEVER plays out the same.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
@IIIMAVER1CK lmao ok now i know youve never played SC. all games are the same? LOL
DBTFxC 5 months ago
lol starcraft - no epicness , no pathos , no brutality and NO FUCKING TANKS SIZE OF THE HOUSE
NarrowKilla 7 months ago
Necrons own them all
munguntulga 7 months ago
DAWN OF WAR WINS EVEY TIME.With its complexity and knew way to game. SC2 is just noobishly spamming units. FOR THE EMPORER!
FleetMaster737 7 months ago
What is this madness? everyone knows that dawn of war 1 pwned em both! >:O
BandLeafStorm 7 months ago
Both games are awesome.
Bam.
CaptainPengu 7 months ago 12
they need to update thats not what starcraft2 now looks like
annivy1 7 months ago
People who call one game or the other a rip-off are retards because sure as hell there is a book or some other media that contains the same ideas years before either franchise used them. Did they rip-off the older work?
Maybe, but probably not, the thing is that you can't be original nowadays as somebody else always thought of it first, and if you think you're original then you've yet to run into the older work, I know from personal experience.
1503nemanja 7 months ago 3
Characters in Dawn of War 2 look like they're chewing gum when they're talking lol .Personally i like Starcrtaft 2 because they have base building and you can have units in greater numbers.
zubagvatic 7 months ago
@zubagvatic SC 2 is fun only in 2 v 2 or 1 v 1 but it gets kinda boring after a while for me. same thing all the time. where in DOW 2 your units can be used in many different ways.
IIIMAVER1CK 7 months ago
@zubagvatic go to DOW and they are chewing bubblegum while they are kicking ass. DOW FOK would be just right for you its true to table top and you have basebuilding.
IIIMAVER1CK 5 months ago
Imperium of Man's Adeptus Astartes vs SC Terran Marines. Imperium would own them. Not to mention Titans and all other Mechanicum stuff. Eldar vs Protoss. I'd like to see those puny zealots take on a howling banshee squad. Tyranids vs Zerg. I have to admit this one is pretty close. But Tyranids would win. As for the games themselves. DOW2 is better in terms of gameplay and realism. A squad would take cover when engaging and they switch to melee. SC units don't. They just fight. DAWN OF WAR FTW!!!
drecie14 7 months ago
@drecie14 No. It wouldn't be close. Tyranids would stomp Zerg pretty damn easily. They're superior in every way.
billyboyjennings 7 months ago
@billyboyjennings I was thinking of the infested Kerrigan. She might tip the balance to favor the Zerg. Then again the Tyranids are just so damn cool. Imagine the Zerg invading Macragge. They don't stand a chance against the Space Marines. The Tyranids however, made the Ultramarines suffer.
drecie14 7 months ago
@drecie14 No, she wouldn't. The Tyranids have 12 galaxies worth of biomass. Their Hive fleets are so massive that they can be seen on the galactic scale. Quintillions at least. They also have countless psyker creatures.
Not even infested Kerrigan would be able to save the Zerg from being completely overwhelmed and destroyed.
billyboyjennings 7 months ago
@drecie14 what are you talking about ? those are two DIFFERENT games you cant compare them in that way !!!
TheVikiLaki 6 months ago
O also i like the realism in DoW 2.I mean when a zealot gets in meele with a marine what happens?The marine keeps shooting whilst blades chop him down :|.In DoW 2 when a slugga gets near a tactical marine what happens?The slugga uses meele and TIES up the ranged tactical marine forcing it too fight in meele where it is inferior.Dawn of war 2 has ALOT of stuff that make it more micro intensive and strategical than usuall combat in SC2.However Sc2 focuses on buildings and harvesting etc.DoW2 forme
K0ragg 7 months ago
Both games are good its just that what you preffer traditional builder RTS or a more micro and unit oriented RTS?.I like both but i like DoW 2 more :).More races,alot of cool abilites and the awesome x retreat button and the fact that u have squads.
K0ragg 7 months ago
lol. starcraft 2 is better.
ardjin0labs0eblibadi 7 months ago
Warhammer is actual a complete copy of starcraft and warcraft mixed together but both games are nice
Marduk401 7 months ago
@Marduk401 Warhammer was created in 1983 and Warhammer 40k was created in 1987. Starcraft was made in 1998.
I'm not saying its a complete copy, merely took inspiration which nearly every fantasy and scifi genre do. Warhammer is quite largly based ob the generic fantasy lore with elves, humans, orcs and dwarves while 40k took inspiration from the original warhammer series just teched them up as well as other things such as the star ship troopers novel which star craft did also.
SenseiWuzi 7 months ago
@SenseiWuzi actualy we cannot say that warhammer stole space marine from starcraf or the opposite because the marine is inspired from the classic space suit that we use even now But what about the tyranids??? I'dont see any of them before?
Marduk401 7 months ago
@Marduk401 Tyranids and Zerg are very similar to the Arachnids in Starship troopers. (The book, not the movie.) Starship troopers was released in 1959.
SenseiWuzi 7 months ago
@SenseiWuzi no they dont. Maybe they are similar Alien xenomorphs more but we talk for games here
Marduk401 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
The only reason why Starcraft lived for so long is because of one thing
Koreans
Hypastpist 8 months ago
but dow's music is also great
cashpogixd 8 months ago
btw stacraft has awesome music if you listen from start to end
cashpogixd 8 months ago
@cashpogixd just search for space crusade videp game(1992)and then tell us which game is older...plz man don't answer without you search it first cuz you maybe say something stupid again...!!
GrandInquisitorOfGR 8 months ago
of course SC is a copy of WH40k but then thats like saying WH40k is a copy of WH Fantasy but with bolters, which is a copy of Dungeons and Dragons Original which was taken from Mythology and Tolkien. Oh and who gives a shit. If you like one over the other, congrats! I personally think Dawn of War is AWESOME but I used to play WH40k tabletop and Epic 40k tabletop...so Im biased. Concerning which one came out first? Warhammer and 40k came before Warcraft and Starcraft.
disgruntledkiwi 8 months ago
@earthbenderguard need run buton and victory point to winn=?
CBJM0277 8 months ago
I have the two
I DO NOT RECOMMEND DOW2
Is slow and tedious
You only go to hit and run DOW 2 IS A FRAUD
CBJM0277 8 months ago
@CBJM0277 Keep crying baby!
earthbenderguard 8 months ago
@earthbenderguard lol wy is a true concpt
CBJM0277 8 months ago
@CBJM0277 Nope! Dawn of war is epic.Starcraft is like a grot leading a ork choir in song XD
earthbenderguard 8 months ago
i just think starcraft is a big copy of warhammer
Ludvik300 8 months ago
continuation
on the first mission of dawn of war 1, few of imperial guards was shot by the captain or wot ever his rank was just because they werent fighting good enough.
in starcraft, marines dont get shot liked that, they COUNTING ON EACH OTHER TO GET THE JOB DONE! OR DIE TRYING IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES. BECAUSE SOME THINGS IS JUST WORTH FIGHTING FOR.
-jim raynir
cashpogixd 8 months ago
@cashpogixd jim raynor
cashpogixd 8 months ago
@cashpogixd
The commissars (that was the rank) don't approve of imperial guardsmen showing any kind of fear, cowardice, weakness or blasphemy. usually they have pretty radical views and will just shoot fleeing guardsmen as an example to the others. It seems to work pretty well. :)
Life sucks in the 40k universe.
Scabieathrax 8 months ago
STARCRAFT IS THE BEST!
dawn of war copied starcraft especially at the marines.
starcraft 1 was released at march 30 1998 and warhammer was released at feb 19 2009
you can actually space and ultra marines looks like the normal marines in starcraft. you can watch it stacraft ghost intro... (starcraft ghost was released at 2002) another reason they copied
game: warhammer it is mixed sci-fi and fantasy which sucks
starcraft 2: it is still sci-fi even the protoss has physic powers
cashpogixd 8 months ago
@cashpogixd It's about the gameplay not about when it was released. Dawn of war 1 was released in 2005 not in 2009.
Mixed Sci-fi fantasy automatically makes it suck? well thats just ur opinion.
emotionalpunkboy 8 months ago
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GrandInquisitorOfGR 8 months ago
@cashpogixd Warhammer 40k was a boardgame made by Games Workshop in 1987, based on the Warhammer franchise they created in 1983. Blizzard copied the idea for Warcraft from Warhammer, and copied the idea of Starcraft from Warhammer 40k. Games Workshop actually hired Blizzard to make a video game of Warhammer, but they weren't happy with the results, and Blizzard instead released Warcraft: Orcs and Humans in 1994. So, who stole from who?
TalesOfWar 7 months ago
@TalesOfWar and copied the idea of Starcraft from Warhammer 40k????????????? so did they traveled on time to do this??
Marduk401 7 months ago
@Marduk401 Starcraft came out in 1998, Warhammer 40K came out in 1987, more than a decade earlier It's pretty obvious who copied who. There was more than a decade between Warhammer (1983) and Warcraft (1994) too, so again... who copied who?
TalesOfWar 7 months ago
@TalesOfWar yes I dont see any tyranids at warhammer 1983 and this is the main reason that I thing that warhammer copied starcraft...
Marduk401 7 months ago
I was expecting Dawn of War 2 to be better than it actually is but it's still an improvement.
Teresthul 8 months ago
I would say DoW2 is better, you need more skill at DoW and you need to use atact's, SC is more like spam huge army, gogo and WIN to me :\
besse25 8 months ago
@besse25 Tsk
Akantorz12 8 months ago
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Rex0142king 8 months ago
do not call terran's humanoids you nazi
googlejerry 8 months ago
I never thought I`d say this but Starcraft 2 is terribly mediocre. Devoid of strategy. Its lame and boring. Whoever is faster on the keyboard simply wins. No out-thinking your enemy or anything strategic. Looking forward to trying DoW 2.
Scynable 8 months ago
@Scynable Starcraft II isn't as bad as you say it is. Saying that it's entirely devoid of strategy is true, for bronze league players who repeatedly fall to 6pools and cannon rushes. However, once you make it into the higher leagues of play, strategy begins to become more and more important. Also, if you truly believe that there is no strategy at all, just watch some GSL matches or the IPL championship between KiWiKaKi and Idra.
Slimcognito2012 8 months ago
@Scynable Your only looking at a basic opening, theres tier 2 and then the final tier which requires the most to think about and 1 simple mistake in your strategy will have a snowball effect towards endgame.
Akantorz12 8 months ago
I guess it's time for the heretics to be burned by the Imperivm... XD
Alfanoadun 8 months ago
Holy crap, this is very early footage of off screen play for SCII thats awsome, everyone looks different and you had statement choices!
OblivionDarkelf 9 months ago
战争黎明是愚蠢的人
kakorotz 9 months ago
i enjoyed both of these games... forget which one is better, warhammer came first, but starcraft is still a solid universe with an intriguing back story, they are both awesome, and different gameplay styles, both involving quick reflex's and a good mind for strategy and timing.
N00b1n4T0R64 9 months ago
IF blizzard put space orks they will get sued really badly again
MrViEtSoMbOoDEE 9 months ago 13
let me say i like blizzard warcraft series but star craft is a cheap copy of warhammer and starship troopers warhammer 40k ftw
spacesargent11 9 months ago 8
Dawn of War is for Men,starcraft to is for babies xD
awpingturtle 9 months ago 32
@awpingturtle Day [9] Daily 100, Dawn of Queer is for fags, Starcraft is for ballers.
Akantorz12 8 months ago
@Akantorz12 i dont see your comment having 17 thumbs up
awpingturtle 8 months ago
@Akantorz12 both games are great,if you want classic sty;e of rts play,starcraft 2
but if u want a more tactical view of the battlefield,you get dawn of war
awpingturtle 8 months ago
@awpingturtle -.- but I cant stand Dawn of War players, QQing so much saying that Starcraft is a ripoff of the Warhammer universe. War Hammer 40k sure, the story came out before the game, BUT THE GAME, starcraft came out before WARHAMMER, Starcraft also requires extreme skill to play, it is like playing the piano, with the mindset of a grandchessmaster, really, I do like both series, but people need to stop QQing about the ripoff and things like that...
Akantorz12 8 months ago
@Akantorz12 what? how can sc be a rip off of dow? there in totally different timelines and in different universes
awpingturtle 8 months ago