"The driver of the car turns with his left arm over his right shoulder with a pistol and fires. You see the .45 automatic, .45-caliber nickel-plated automatic weapon in his left hand, He's firing over his right shoulder. You see his head pointing backwards towards the President. In this enhanced close-up you see the impact of the bullet upon the President. The force of the shot drives him violently backward against the back of the seat. You see Mrs. Kennedy react in horror." - Possible?
i still think there is more to the story than we know, and i used to think he was shot from the front, but you can clearly see all the blood and brain matter shoot out from the front of his head, if he was shot from the front that blood and matter would have shot out the back, but it is clearly visable that it flew out of the front of his head which obviously could only be from a shot from behind.
Kennedy was shot from someone hiding inside the trunk. That is the only way he and Connally could have been in line. The other shooters were to make noise to frame Oswald. The shooters then changed the angle so he would not hit anyone else in the car. You can see frame 313 the bullet going upwards about ten degrees from center exiting. Look at frame 313 on Harris video. This rules out everyone else. They do not want you to know shooter was in the trunk, because it means the government did it
@UNIQUE1982 The story is confirmed by the video. The video rules out all the others. The video says someone was in the trunk. So I say they were in the trunk. The peopel of this country should rise up and throw out the whole government. We need to start over, because now we end up with a president is not legal to be president.
@tubeyou9878 The video says they were in the trunk? Stop spreading weak straw man information without any fact. People like you discredit and are detrimental to people seeking the truth regarding the assassination. There is no evidence to support your claim.
@UNIQUE1982 Look at the Harris77 video Look at frame 313. Look at the projectile going upwards above his head. Look at the angle. Go shoot a watermelon and film it. Everything will go in the direction of the bullet. If you shoot flat nothing will go upwards. If you shot nothing will blow back from where the bullet came from. Then keep looking at the film. You'll change your mind. Think when they kill someone they kill them close. They could shoot from the trunk and other shooters to make noise
Notice how Connolly is reacting exactly at the same time with Kennedy, you can see Connolly in a lot of pain. Furthermore fram 313 is when Kennedy head is blown out, meaning a shot from behind outward. I'm not saying Oswald acted alone, but looks to me like the shots came from the TBD.
@ADAMSIXTIES From behind outward? It was from behind from below. I think the shot went so far upwards is Kennedy had a back brace. The bullet hit the brace and went upwards. The energy is upwards. Look at Harris77 video. Keep looking at it. Look at the energy upwards. Keep looking at the video over and over again.
People, The single bullet theory is a decoy. Look at the head shot. Kennedy was shot from the FRONT, but Oswald was BEHIND them. How can someone shoot someone in the front of the head if they are behind them. The single bullet theory is distracting people from the head shot.
@MegaTanner24 Look at frame 313 Kennedy was shot by someone in the trunk. The other shooters were to make noise. They could have just shot from the trunk but they needed others to make noise to frame Oswald. The head shot you see is an exit wound.
@MegaTanner24 If as some theories state that JFK was hit in the right temple area why is there no exit wound on the opposite side of the skull? The only possible explanation I can think of is an explosive round but I am not an ammunition expert in any case. Whereas if you consider a small entry wound at the rear left (as per the angle JFK was looking) of the skull and exit or impact (internal) on the right front causing the massive flap evident in the zapruder.
@insana111 he's a secret service agent giving something to mrs kennedy. Not sure what he's doing, but whatever he is doing, it's because he is supposed to.
@ElPsychochillero the first shot went in his back and came out through his throat (the reason he grabs his throat) the second shot goes through the front of his head and out the back, completely destroying his skull (the reason jackie kennedy is reatching on the trunk of the car.... to collect the pieces that were not already on her outfit at the time)
@softie4cats why would she collect his pieces? i think she just panicks and tries to get away... i didnt know that kennedy actually got shot twice though
@ElPsychochillero she attempted collecting the pieces in hopes he would survive and they would be able to put his skull back together, and she did panic because she was covered in her husband's skull and brainmatter so the man (clint hill) one of JFK's secret service agent's is running close behind the car tryng to get her back in the car so the can get JFK to the hospital, though he is already dead immidiatly after the shot to the head.
Make the screen full size and watch to 2 motor cycle cops in the upper left as soon and President Kennedy grabs his throat they both at the same time look towards the grassy knoll!!!!
Kennedy was shot by someone hiding in the trunk. That's how he hit Kennedy and Connally at the same time. Then he readjusted and shot from another angle. Look at how the shit exited. Does someone have to spell it out for you? Email the FBI and ask them. I know and FBI agent and he said there was assassin in the trunk. Come on guys this isn't 1800. We got video we can look at You got a video right there and you can't figure it out? Freeze frame 313 and see the bullet exit. It's right there.
Oh, who is the man lying in the middle of the car? He is in great shooting-position. And the smoke of his gun is clearly to be seen in front of Kennedy´s head. So, if you asked me, I would say that this guy, who´s Hollywood-ready acting, as if he´d been hit, he is the murderer. Quite simple and clearly to be seen. Why should anybody search for a different explanation? This is soo obvious and the case is very easy to solve.
You know something i wish the trunk thereory guy would just shut the fuck up with that bullshit.Look at kennedys head.The first shot at kennedy his head was stationary.He looked at the right a little then got shot behind in the neck.He looked down and leaned very little to the left leaveing him wide open for the next shot.LHO didnt have to adjust very much for the next shot.LHO shot him.The only benefit is oswald sufferd more.
@bearsfootballin06 so oswald, with a crappy shot stated in the marines, pulled off "3" brilliant shots one of which hit several places of two men and the bullet wasnt even dented from the bone, and also that bullet paused in midair which the warren commission stated OH and also explain to us all how did a bullet from behind cause JFK to go back and to the left instead of forward? Wake up
@Guerillaradio13 Only 2 of oswald's shots hit, the first and the last. the one in the middle missed. there's medical evidence that shows the bullet didn't have to hit the bones to break them. the bullet never paused in midair, it's common knowledge that Kennedy's seat was higher then Connely's which allowed the bullet trajectory to hit both of them the way it did. And he did go forward. In frame 312, it's stated that the bullet entered his head and lurched forward, before moving backwards
@bearsfootballin06 oh so I'm guessing you're one of these people who believe everything the Warren Commission released and believe EVERYTHING the oh so "truthfully" speaking US Government comes out with? No waking up then for you!
@Guerillaradio13 I don't believe everything in the Warren Commission. It was a poorly preformed investigation in which they made several mistakes when it came to gathing their information.
@bearsfootballin06 2 hit but 1 missed? wait a minute think about this the 1 shot which hit all seven places (JFK and Connolly)...7 places from a rifleman with a crap shot in the marines from the 6th floor of a building with a crappy Italian rifle? Connolly also said AFTER he turned round from his right to his left is when he felt getting shot not when he was looking over his right shoulder WHICH the warren commission states happened with the magic bullet which so happened to pause in mid air!
@Guerillaradio13 Yep, 7 places from that one shot. Pure luck that it acually hit Kennedy. Was aiming for Kennedy's head, but missed because he was a crappy shot, but it ended up hitting him anyway.
@bearsfootballin06 plus there were dozens of witness there who said they saw the car actually be struck by the bullets, yes BULLETS, on the windscreen for example! A 941 Italian-made Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5mm bolt-action is known for inaccuracy in its shooting as well as being an ineffective firearm. Dont forget the timing of the shots the W.C stated which for LHO when the guy didnt even qualify a Marksman in the Marines. Seriously man read into it more, please?
@Guerillaradio13 I don't doubt that Oswald was a poor marksman. The assassination itself proved that. He fired 3 shots, only one of them acually hit what he was aiming for (Kennedy's head). Technically, he missed his target twice before he finally hit it. Also, eyewitness testimony has a history of being unreliable at best. Being able to literally see bullets hitting a windshield would be a physical impossibility for the human eye.
@bearsfootballin06 Nearly 50 people ran over towards the grassy knoll area, I doubt that many people would run over to that area when not 1 person went to the SBDB! He was accused though of being the gunman though, explain to me though how a bullet hits a guy in the back of the head but defies the Laws of Physics and propels JFK's body backwards not forwards which by the way does happen he doesnt go forward as you stated originally! Open your eyes lol
@Guerillaradio13 People ran to the knoll for cover. There are numerous videos and pictures showing the citizens diving onto their stomachs on the knoll and covering their heads. It's also known that a police officer did run into the TSBD but was unable to capture Oswald.
@Guerillaradio13 Youtube "JKF Assassination Zapruder Fim Enhanced". It's a slow motion, zoomed in, frame by frame look at the Zapruder film. From frame 312 to about 314, you can clearly see Kennedy's head lurch forward and open up, the lurch backwards due to Newtons law of Motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
After finally looking at all of the evidence I can admit that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and there was no conspiracy. I admit it was a let down, but one has to face the truth at some point.
I used to think there was a conspiracy. LHO acted alone people. Kennedy's head does move slightly forward then snaps back. Why does it snap back? Muscular reaction. No matter what I say the buffs will always find a way to twist the evidence.
Let's accept the facts, in one way or another Oswald was involved. Now ballistic claims from the Discovery channel are purely speculation, let's talk about motivation. Oswald genuinely hated America and capitalism but JFK was a left President and it is noted that Oswald had supported him. He was aiming for Governor Connally who was formerly the Secretary of the Navy and changed Oswald's discharge from honorable to dishonorable.
@hothead591 i agree with you that it would not make sense for a commusit to kill kennedy, given how he seemed to be trying to ease up the cold war, but i saw on some special (not neccesarily guaranteed to be true) that oswald scored high on his marine corps (not the navy) marksmanship tests, so if he was aiming for connoly he would likely not have missed, or shot before kennedy was obstructing his shot.
@hothead591 That is probably the most illogical idea I have ever read. Why would someone assassinate Gov. Connally and by accident hit the president. I mean there way better times to have shot at a lower profile person and not the time that they would be riding in a car with the highest profiled target. Just a silly a thought I guess...
I'm not a conspiracy theorist or even a Kennedy enthusiast, but the way his head moves at the end from the final shot seems to defy physics if it was just Lee Harvey Oswald shooting from the 6th floor of a building that should have been behind him at that point.
@jthittinger when you shoot someone in the head, the exit wound is always bigger than the entrance wound and the head always jerks towards the shooter. Its counter intuitive, but it's a real effect. You get the same thing with a melon wrapped in shrink wrap
@marcmischief yah your right. It has something to do with a persons muscles naturally moving in the direction of the impact. That's why is head jerked backwards, because his body was naturally responding to an impact.
@marcmischief At last the voice of sanity. But don't think you'll convince the conspiracy theorists with simple & well established laws of gunshot wounds.
Man, you've got problems. Who are you trying to convince with all these idiotic posts? Yourself, perhaps. Go away, little man, and stop bothering me with your psycotic manifestations of what you THINK happened 50 years ago.
I've shot rifles and pistols of various calibers from .22 to .30-30. At age 10, I had an 'air rilfe'. Even a BB would knock a can off a post and --guess what --it did NOT fall toward me, you idiots. Now, the results are more interesting with a thirty-thirty. It knocks the SHIT out of target --BACKWARD aways from the shooter, you morons. Now --if JFKs head had been made of JELLO, you might have a case. Otherwise, you're full of shit!
In summary: 1) the Warren commission cannot place the ONLY hard evidence it has (CE-399) at the scene of the crime. It has no bona fides and would have been, should have been THROWN OUT of court. 2) z stablized proves that the fatal shot came from the front as intelligent people have known for years; 3) Evidence relative to the JFK assassination had been TAMPERED with while in govt possession. I have PERSONAL knowledge of this and will be happy to make a deposition for a REAL investigation.
@lennhart thank you so much. on another video i posted about the fact of where he was shot from and how the fact that the shots were fired too fast for a mediocre marksman like odwald. And Oswald shot him in the back, yet the shot that killed him was from the front. Questions anyone?
@lennhart Two questions: 1. How do you account for the damage the doctors say they see at the right rear of the skull? If the shot impacted the right front? 2. Why was there no exit wound on the rear left?
Again --the MAGIC BULLET is supposed to have traversed 15 layers of clothing, 7 layers of skin, some 15 inches of tissue, struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. But it CANNOT BE PLACED AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME. CE-399 as found on a gurney in the corridor at the Parkland Memorial Hospital, in Dallas. The Warren Commission found that this gurney was the one that had borne Governor Connally --NOT JFK
Imagine that Oswald had not been shot! The 'government' would have been forced to prove its case against him in court or SHUT THE FUCK UP! CONVENIENTLY for those who needed a patsy, Oswald was murdered and saved those who might have had to prosecute the case a severe embarrassment in court when the pack of bullshit they now call the Warren Commission was thrown out of court by a COMPETENT judge.
In summary --Zapruder stablized proves conclusively that the fatal shot came from the front. That is CONSISTENT with the FACT that CE-399 could not have been the fatal shot and we knew that already! It is pristine, cannot be proven to have been fired at any time ever! It was found on the wrong gurney at Parkland Hospital and cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime. MAGIC BULLET INDEED! The Warren Commission report must be utterly discarded. It was a lie and a cover up.
@Cannibal713 free lesson for you: a bullet DOES NOT GO THROUGH something BEFORE it strikes it delivering what scientists call KINETIC ENERGY. The only exception might be FOAM! Even air will resist a projectile. Putty --if it is very thick --might stop a bullet. I suggest you do some research re: the HARDNESS OF BONE before you indulge your delusions and rationalizations. Secondly, what you say only supports the fact that CE-399 was PRISTINE and cannot be placed at the scene of the crime.
@SansAuthoritas Since you do not know the meaning of 'psychopath' I looked it for u: "mental illness: the psychological state of someone who has emotional or behavioral problems serious enough to require psychiatric intervention wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by an abnormal lack of empathy combined with abnormally immoral conduct ...." That describes you to a 'T'. Obsessing over me is one of your symptoms. LOL LOL
sorry I pissed off all the nut jobs posting here. Everything I posted is consistent with both science and logic. The nut jobs are those who 1) cannot follow a simply syllogism; 2) are threatened by it and those who use it 3) insist upon 'dictating' their own lies, false analogies, misstatements and get pissed off when a victim refuses to play their stupid game. Fact is --morons believe the WC fairy tale because: "...they can't handle the truth!" ---a symptom of psychosis.
EVERYBODY! watch the driver! he clearly looks back, then pulls up what appears to be a silver m1911 .45. as the pistol rocks back due to recoil you can see president kennedys head fly back from the direction of the driver and the pistol he clearly wields in the film
I hate to rain on a parade. But when a person is shot, especialy with a high velocity projectile. They don't get blown back in the direction of fire, like ii the movies. The bullet passes tho, leaving a large exit wound. You can see the gore flying forward like from a shot from behind....Oswald (a trained and skilled Marine Rifleman) killed America's 35th president. Get on with your lives, and remember JFK's life and not the manner of his death.
@Cannibal713 I have not shot people but have shot game. It does NOT fall toward me unless some OTHER force is applied. The laws of physic were NOT repealed to make the Warren Commission look competent or honest. 2) this debate is irrelevant. The WC is built around a single bullet --CE-399. Pristine, obviously never having been fired at all, it was found on a gurney--perhaps the wrong gurney. Lacking those 'bona fides' a competent just would have dismissed it. Ergo: OSWALD WALKS.
@Cannibal713 Having fired numerous firearms in my life, I say that you are dead wrong. When a high velocity projectile strikes a target is does precisely what you say that it does not ---the target gets blown back by by what physicists call KENETIC ENERGY. Clearly --you have never shot a rifle nor even a BB gun. I used to knock all kinds of targets off fences with BB guns (air rifles), pellet guns, .22 caliber and 30.06 caliber as well as shotguns. NONE of them ever fell in my direction.
MAGIC BULLET is said to have traversed 15 layers of clothing, 7 layers of skin, and approximately 15 inches of tissue, struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. The bullet was found on a gurney in the corridor at the Parkland Memorial Hospital, in Dallas, after the assassination. The Warren Commission found that this gurney was the one that had borne Governor Connally --NOT JFK My opinion: BULLSHIT!
You can find a good quality PIC of the MAGICAL BULLET at the JFK Lancer. It is doubtful that this near pristine bullet had EVER been fired at all. Certainly ---the other bullet fragments are all smushed up, distorted, deformed often beyond recognition. It's just another instance in which the OFFICIAL JFK THEORY is utter FRICKIN BULLSHIT. Oswald would have walked. Maybe that's he had to take the fall or why he had to die.
It's amazing to me that so many millions think they know shit that they could not possibly know. Bluntly --some 90 percent of YouTubers (especially the wing nuts) post crap about which they could not POSSIBLY know anything. People seem to be over impressed with themselves when, in fact, they know very little if ANYTHING at all. Sad, really, when you think about it!
Arlen Specter did the nation a disservice with the MAGIC BULLET theory. CE-399 had never been fired Every other bullet said to be connected with JFK was VASTLY smushed and/or distorted. But the ONE bullet that is said to have done ALL the damage is PRISTINE--nary a scratch and NONE that is consistent with ANY of the magical antics that are attributed to it. The OFFICIAL THEORY re: JFK is utter bullshit for which there is NO credible evidence whatsoever!
No assassin would even consider shooting from TBSD. Stupid! you have to ditch a klunky Mannlicher-Carcano and hope no one finds it, you have to run down six flights of starts into the waiting arms of the law! !! Bullshit! No assassination --certainly not a CIA trained assassin --is going to be so amateurish. Witnesses say Oswald was seen having a coke in a lunch room somewhere between the 6th and ground floors! A guilty man does not do that!TSBD is the WORST position from which to pull off a hit
This STABILIZED FOOTAGE confirms Dallas Police Chief Curry who stated flatly -- In 1978-- that the fatal shot came from the front. The Zapruder film confirms him. If V Bugliosi took his case to court, a competent judge would throw out the the 'magic bullet' (CE 399) for lacking bona fides. It had never been fired! But that does not even matter --it was found on a the wrong gurney at Parkland, it CANNOT BE PLACED at the scene of the crime.
No professional hit man would have chosen the TSBD.Pro shooters are concerned with GET AWAY, EGRESS. In Dallas, egress had been secured behind the grassy knoll. The TSBD was the worst possible position. No get-away is possible! Are we to believe that LHO ditched the murder weapon where it was SURE to be found with his prints on it and then RUN DOWN six flights of stairs into the waiting arms of the law??? I don't think so! Also --a TSBD shot is about 4 times distance to target as grassy knoll,.
@lennhart No professional hit man did. A bitter sociopath twerp wound up by listening to commie propaganda from Cuba on his short wave radio happened to work there. Motive + opportunity.
@brazenlilraisin Nonsense for which you have NO evidence. If you think so --cite it. Again, you really need to take some courses in 1) physics 2) law/debate/forensics. For example, you just state SHIT but never prove or support. You just expect me to believe it. As for METHOD, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY Oswald cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime, nor can any forensic connection be made between Oswald and the so-called 'magic bullet'!
@brazenlilraisin If I were going murder a prez, I would get an XP-100 fireball and take up a position in a secured and OBSCURED area. I would want to fire when the apparent lateral motion of the target is minimal vis a vis my own position. At some point, JFK's lateral motion RELATIVE TO THE SHOOTER is minimal. Having been to DEALY personally, I can tell you that that point is found on Zapruder film --FRAME 313. That position is also about 1/5 or 1/4 the distance to target as a TSBD shooter.
@brazenlilraisin The man who fired the fatal shot was --in fact --a pro! Oswald was NO pro but LHO was NOT the shooter, could not have been. His ONLY known position re JFK's murder was on the second floor having a soda! Everything else about him re: TSBD is pure speculation --not a shred of it would have escape a competent judge or a competent defense attorney. The state had NO case against Oswald. He had to die. Had he been tried, he would have WALKED, perhaps TALKED to the chagrin of the CIA.
@brazenlilraisin So you were told but what you were told is utter fucking bullshit. Had the case gone to trial, Oswald would have walked. The prosecution could not put what it claims was the FATAL bullet at the scene of the crime; cannot prove it had even been FIRED; cannot prove Oswald --whom witnesses say was drinking a coke in the lunch room --was even in the sixth floor at the time of the shooting. Certainly --NO ONE has proven (to the satisfaction of a court) that CE-399 had ever been fired
@brazenlilraisin You don't know that. How could you? Do you claim to have known Oswald personally? You're just spouting off shit about which you know nothing. cite some evidence or STFU
@lennhart fukkin christ on a popsicle stick, how lonely are you? I posted that last month, don't you have anybody else to talk to, perhaps somebody who
@brazenlilraisin I am not lonely at all. LOL LOL and you're line about 'someone who gives a shit" ....When I first heard that I laughed so hard I kicked the slats out of my baby bed! Face it; you're a moron. LOL LOL
@brazenlilraisin typical of losers --when they've lost they try to 'characterize' their opponents in some stupid way. Who says I'm lonely? ONLY you! Again --you are indulging a delusion. Secondly, who cares if I were lonely? What if I were? Would that render false anything I've said?? NO --it would not. I suggest you get a clue, get a life.
@brazenlilraisin You are just just pulling NAIVE, uninformed speculation out of your ass. You do NOT murder a president with amateurs. It was a pro job with a built in 'cover' however obvious. FACT: no one can prove that CE-399 ---said to be the fatal shot --was 1) even at the scene of the crime; 2) had ever been fired. Now--if you think otherwise, PROVE IT! calling names doesn't matter and, if it were done in court, the JUDGE would have your sorry ass removed.
@lennhart I believe that Oswald's true mental state will never be known because of the self indulgent actions of Jack Ruby. It is hard to think one man could alter the course of history, but in the end this was a murder. And murderers make the most stupid mistakes, even if they are expert marksmen. In my opinion, to pull off an assassination by proxy would involve too many people. The only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead. And this would have taken many many more.
No professional hit man would have chosen the TSBD.Pro shooters are concerned with GET AWAY, EGRESS. In Dallas, egress had been secured behind the grassy knoll. The TSBD was the worst possible position. No get-away is possible! Are we to believe that LHO ditched the murder weapon where it was SURE to be found with his prints on it and then RUN DOWN six flights of stairs into the waiting arms of the law??? I don't think so!
As a kid hoping to be a big league pitcher, I used to practice a fast ball against a picket fence. One day --I smoked one right over 'home plate' knocking the SLATS right out of the fence. Guess what ---the slats DID NOT fall forward! They FELL BACKWARD upon being hit from the front. I use to target practice a BB gun against tin cans on a post. Guess what! NONE of those tin cans fell forward. I used to fire .22 and 30 ought 6 rounds at various targets. NONE of them EVER fell toward me.
I have been to Dealy Plaza many times, having lived in Dallas while employed by KNUS [MacClendon broadcasting] I have visited Dealy on numerous occasions and have interviewed a witness to the JFK murder. Had I wanted to murder the Prez, I would have secured the area behind the picket fence and the RR tracks. A double page spread in LOOK MAGAZINE [ pub1964] depicts a TRAIN on the RR tracks behind the knoll. E. Howard Hunt (see his 'confession'), Frank Sturgis et al had SECURED the area.
And --I not only saw the LOOK MAGAZINE spread, I saw the original slide taken by Phil Willis whose 35mm slides are almost as famous as Z-film. I interview Willis' daughter --she is the little girl in the red dress clearly seen on Z-film running along side the motorcade. The FBI seized the Willis' photos AFTER the spread depicting the train had appeared in Look Mag. When the sliders were returned to Rosemary Willis years later, they had been tampered with while in FBI possession.
From Mondo Media: "The killing shot that spread JFK’s brains all over the trunk of the limo – the pieces of which Jackie tried to crawl out to retrieve – was so obviously from the front of the car, any suggestion that the shot came from behind is ridiculous." When Z film was first released but not yet made public, DAN RATHER said pretty much the same thing re JFK's head that it move '....BACK to the left'. That's because the fatal shot came form the FRONT, the grassy knoll.
i know this may not seem like anything but look at 0:12 very carefully it looks like the driver Turned around quickly and shot him while everyone was look at the president
CE399 --the bullet SAID to caused JC's wounds and the FATAL shot seen on the zapruder film --cannot be placed at the scene of the crime. ERGO: a COMPETENT judge would have thrown it out of court had the case gone to trial. Without CE399 the JFK LIARS might as well be talking about GREEN CHEESE on the moon. If they cannot place CE399 at the scene of the crime, NOTHING said by them about Zapruder makes any sense at all.
CE399 is the bullet SAID to caused JC's wounds and the FATAL shot seen on the zapruder film. There is YET another reason that is impossible. The BULLET that is alleged to have been the fatal bullet was ---IN FACT --found on a the wrong gurney at Parkland Hospital and cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime. ERGO: there is no reason to believe it had ANYTHING at all to do with the murder. Lastly: if CE399 CANNOT be placed at the scene, then the JFK liars have NOTHING in their support.
you said the same thing in every post about the hospital and the gurney. its obvious that something weird went on that day. thats why oswald got popped. the whole plan had to of been elaborate considering the target was a president. but how elaborate it was is really the question. the answer to that would probably be the most shocking of all. the govt is looking at the same video as us. we make the same assumptions as they do. whatevers being covered up is offensive to the govt.
@gmandude420 You're right. Sorry I was repetitive. Fact is --from a prosecutors point of view --there is NO case against Oswald without the 'magic bullet'. Without the magic bullet and verifiable connections to the 'throw down' weapon there is simply NO CASE whatsoever against Oswald. He was --indeed --a patsy. The 'real killers' knew this; that's why Oswald HAD to die. A competent judge would have thrown the case out. Oswald might never have gone to trial!
@gmandude420 there is a reason for making the point that CE-399 had no BONA FIDES. The official THEORY, i.e, the govt's case is built around 399. If 399 cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime OR had never been fired, then NOTHING in the Warren Commission report can be believed. It's as simple as that! If the GOVT had tried to try OSWALD a competent judge would have THROWN OUT 399! Case dismissed! Do you really think the "govt" would have risked such a monumental embarrassment.
Again ---youtube has proven to me that people will believe whatever lie reinforces their prejudices or makes them feel good about themselves. Until a CURE isfound for this, human society is DOOMED to live in tragically flawed societies where people are easily DUPED and EXPLOITED by whatever bullshit propagandists, liars and OTHER politicians find expedient to perpetrate!
There were a TOTAL of ten wounds to both JFK and CONNALLY; and a total of 8 BULLET FRAGs found in various places to include the limo and Parkland hospital. But the 'magic bullet' is INTACT and cannot be placed at the scene of the crime! There are NO discenable missing fragments. WHERE did the other fragments comes from? I suggest they be WEIGHED and an estimate made of HOW MANY bullets TOTAL were fired that day. That would put the SINGLE GUN MAN THEORY to rest FOREVER!
Secondly, I have shot hundreds of tin cans. I have never shot one from the front that DID NOT fall backward. I have shot almost as much 'game'. I have NEVER shot any game that fell toward the gun upon being hit.
I've shot bowling pin matches. They fall forward on a regular basis when hit with a high-velocity rifle. Depends where you hit them and how much resistance the bullet meets going through. Yes, ultimately, they're pushed back, but they often fall forward.
@SansAuthoritas Not analogous. I have bowled too. Unless a force or bounce comes from BEHIND the pins fall back and away from the ball which strikes them. If there is one ball and one pin, the pint falls BACK in the direction of the ball which strikes it. It NEVER fails. Isaac Newton is confirmed every day until and unless you APPROACH the speed of light LOL LOL
@SansAuthoritas bowling pins struck from the front DO NOT fall forward! I've also played golf. If what you say were true (it's not) perhaps I should PUTT in the opposite direction of the hole! Perhaps, I should stop trying to knock a ball in the hole by swinging the golf club in the general direction of the hole!!! Perhaps, I should turn around and try to knock the ball into the HOLE behind me!!! Don't be stupid! SUGGESTIONS 1) find a community college 2) take a FIRST SEMESTER Physics course!
@SansAuthoritas No ---they do NOT fall forward upon being struck form the front! I bowl And I have NEVER seen anything remotely resembling what you describe.
I have played golf from time to time. I have NEVER EVER stuck a ball that moved AWAY from the green. And --on the green --I have never tried to sink a PUTT by knocking the ball in a direction OPPOSITE to the hole. Again --contrast on the frames can reduce images to ABSTRACT shapes which can be referenced against a GRID. Guess what --JFK head is knocked back by a shot from the front. PERIOD!
Lenn, an object tends to stay in place until acted upon by an outside force. I'm sure you've never hit a ball that moved away from the green, but I'm sure you felt the resistance from the ball, didn't you?
@SansAuthoritas Precisely. JFKs head was 'acted upon' by a bullet fired from the front, driving the head back as can be PROVEN by Zap film. Statements that two bullets were fired from the direction the TSBD WERE "starkly contradicted" by TESTIMONY of doctors and nurses who attempted to save Kennedy’s life at Parkland. TWO GROUPS of doctors saw a head wound in the back or back-right of the head as a result of a bullet that came from the front. Simply, that conclusion is support by ZAPRUDER!
@SansAuthoritas Indeed and the ball move forward upon being struck in that direction. So what? I have never swung at a ball that moved BACK on me or in a direction OPPOSITE to the force that struck it and set it into motion in the first place. Elementary physics.
Look up Penn and Teller Kennedy head. You can watch in slow motion as the contents are evacuated out the back of the target, while the target goes forward. I'm sorry. It's just the way physics works as the contents of anything, a human skull or a watermelon, are evacuated.
@SansAuthoritas Last time I checked Penn and Teller were SHOWBIZ types who specialize in illusion, misdirection. Another real life example: as a kid I had a MEAN fast ball. I could knock the slats out of a wooden fence with a considerable accuracy. Guess what --NEVER did a slat move forward to MEET the ball NOR did the slat EVER fall forward after being hit! CLUE: the extremist American right wing is NOT above the laws of physics.
Apples and oranges. You have to have the proper balance of velocity, and density of the missile and the target before you can start to see the phenomenon. Even then, you're not going to catch it without watching carefully and probably going frame by frame on a recording.
@SansAuthoritas Bullshit! Kinetic energy IS kinetic energy in every case. That's why PHYSICS is a science. The density of the fucking target has NOTHING to do with its response to being hit. Of ANY density a body that is struck by another body will respond in ways that are MATHEMATICALLY predictable.
@SansAuthoritas Look up David Copperfield. If you believe obects move INTO other objects that strike them then you probably believe that DAVID COPPERFIELD managed to walk through the great wall of China. I don't think so! And I also KNOW as a fact of physics that a bullet was responsible for JFKs head moving backward MEASURABLY upon being hit from the front.The MAGIC BULLET that is said to have been the FATAL SHOT was found on the wrong gurney at Parkland and CANNOT even be placed at the scene.
@SansAuthoritas Nonesense! Next you will tell me that David Copperfield walked through the Great Wall of China. You need to look up NEWTON'S 1st law of motion or take a remedial course. Try M.I.T. 8.01 Physics I: Classical Mechanics
@SansAuthoritas Physics was one of the courses I got A's in. Indeed, an object stays at rest until acted upon. JFKs head was acted upon by a bullet that knocked his head BACK and to the LEFT in accordance with NEWTON. Secondly, even if the so-called 'magic bullet' was fired from a another shooter in another location, that has NOTHING to do with the fact that the fatal shot came from the Grassy Knoll which which had been secured bey E. Howard Hunt, Sturgis et al.
@lennhart What a genius the knoll shooter was, firing a shot so that it made an entrance wound the size of a grapefruit and an exit wound the size of an almond. [rolleyes]
@brazenlilraisin Genius had nothing to do with it. The knoll shooter was at least a competent, perhaps, expert marksman. He had ONE window of opportunity, he took it and hit his target. The fatal shot came from behind the picket fence as EVERY agent at cop on the scene suspected at the time of the murder. After the shot, all the 'suits' were MOVING toward the picket fence --NOT the TSBD. And when the TSBD was scouted, Oswald was having a coke.
@SansAuthoritas another CLUE: the resistance of the ball is called INERTIA. Look it up! "Inertia" is tendency of an object at rest to remain at rest, unless acted upon by a force ---OR the tendency of an object in motion to remain in motion until it is acted upon by a FORCE! This is otherwise called Newton's First Law of Motion and will be covered in the REMEDIAL PHYSICS COURSE that I suggest you take at a convenient community college. BTW --my information re: inertia comes from M.I.T.
@SansAuthoritas What you are TRYING to describe is one of Newton's basic laws of motion. 1) Every body remains in a state of constant velocity (or motionless) unless acted upon by an external force; 2) A mass [m] that is subject to an external net force [F] undergoes an acceleration "...IN THE SAME DIRECTION" as the applied force. In this case --the force of the bullet fired from the right front forces JFKs' head back and to the left consistent with Newton's formula F = ma.
@SansAuthoritas that's one of Newton's laws but NO WHERE in Newton will you find a 'law' that says that if you swing a golf club, the ball will move in a direction OPPOSITE to the hole !!!!!! Jeeeezzz The American education system has failed us all. Go back to the books. Read Newton before you presume to quote him.
@lennhart You're a physics genius, aren't you? Yeah, hitting a golf ball is just like a bullet going through someone's head. That isn't even an apples to oranges comparison...
@mkp823 NEWTON'S FUCKING LAWS apply to every solid matter that exists. Any more STUPID stupid questions. Clue: you should not have dropped out of Jr High. You missed a lot!
A fired bullet has KENETIC ENERGY which it transferred to any object struck by it. The object with the greater kinetic energy --in this case the bullet --will exert a 'force' upon any object stricken by it. Thus:energy may be transferred. The backward motion of JFKs head is clear, unambiguous, and consistent with physics which predicts precisely what was filmed by Zapruder.
@SansAuthoritas Not even CLOSE to analogous. I have punched a few punching bags in my day. NONE ever MOVED FORWARD to meet a blow. This revisionism of science is stupid. These frames can be diagrammed. JFKs head does NOT move forward in anticipation of the 'hit' or, later, as a reflex in response to it. Nerves associated with a reflex are KNOWN and there are none in the forehead. In any case, the reflexes of the human body are known and cataloged and this is NOT one of them.
A punching bag is much harder than an unprepared human's stomach. This isn't about human reflexes, this is about physics. A body at rest tends to stay that way until acted upon by an outside force. A bullet cannot instantly transfer all its energy. If you've shot through a railroad rail, you'll see that the front of the hole curls outward. Same principle with the way Kennedy's head jerked for an instant.
@SansAuthoritas Indeed, this is about PHYSICS. The ONLY time a punching bag moves toward the one throwing the punch is on the back swing. A punching bag is a PENDULUM; it swings TO and FRO. Pure physics. Indeed, JFKs head jerked BACKWARD when he was hit. Because, many ---for various reasons --will insist upon seeing what they want to see. But the stabilized film should put most of that BS to rest by taking 'apparent' movement to to camera shake et al OUT of the equation.
@SansAuthoritas A punching bag is heavier. Look up Newton's first law of motion. Indeed, this is NOT about human reflexes and I never said it was. It is about PHYSICS pure and simple. Newton's first law has NOT been repealed. JFKs head was struck from his right (a shooter on the grassy knoll); ergo: JFKs head could have been predicted to go BACKWARD and to the left. It did precisely that.
@lennhart In fact the formula is F = ma where F equals FORCE, m = mass and a = acceleration! Simply, a body [mass] subject to a force [ F] an acceleration [a] IN THE SAME DIRECTION the force and a magnitude that is directly proportional to the force. What is seen in the Z film is a real life demonstration of I. NEWTON'S forumula: F = ma
@SansAuthoritas Check ISSAC NEWTON ---a bullet INDEED transfers kinetic energy at the very INSTANT of contact. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the PHYSICS and MATH departments at M.I.T. Yale, Harvard, Cambridge, or the University of Houston (my Alma Mater) which is now researching interstellar space travel et al with grants from NASA. I suggest that if you have problem with the established science, you take it up with NASA and inform them that they are wasted their monies!!
@SansAuthoritas That's what I have been saying for years! To CE-399 a mass in motion JFKs head was just another body! The effect upon JFKs head upon being struck from the front is PRECISELY described and predicted by established physics i.e, his head moved back and to his left upon being struck from the front and to his right! PURE PHYSICS, pure and simply! Newton's formula both describes/predicts what happens when one body strikes another. NOTHING mysterious but the BULLSHIT spread by liars!
The man in frame 15 is clearly falling backwards in surprise of seein/hearing something forward and to the right of the limo.
motonegros 2 weeks ago
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@motonegros "The man in frame 15 is clearly falling backwards in surprise" Observable facts quoted, retarded speculation snipped.
brazenlilraisin 1 week ago
"The driver of the car turns with his left arm over his right shoulder with a pistol and fires. You see the .45 automatic, .45-caliber nickel-plated automatic weapon in his left hand, He's firing over his right shoulder. You see his head pointing backwards towards the President. In this enhanced close-up you see the impact of the bullet upon the President. The force of the shot drives him violently backward against the back of the seat. You see Mrs. Kennedy react in horror." - Possible?
axe12345ify 3 weeks ago
@axe12345ify at the beginning i thought the same but that's not true... it it the sun and the hair of the second guy... look closely!
jozio1014 3 weeks ago
i still think there is more to the story than we know, and i used to think he was shot from the front, but you can clearly see all the blood and brain matter shoot out from the front of his head, if he was shot from the front that blood and matter would have shot out the back, but it is clearly visable that it flew out of the front of his head which obviously could only be from a shot from behind.
manuteboler 1 month ago
Kennedy was shot from someone hiding inside the trunk. That is the only way he and Connally could have been in line. The other shooters were to make noise to frame Oswald. The shooters then changed the angle so he would not hit anyone else in the car. You can see frame 313 the bullet going upwards about ten degrees from center exiting. Look at frame 313 on Harris video. This rules out everyone else. They do not want you to know shooter was in the trunk, because it means the government did it
tubeyou9878 1 month ago
@tubeyou9878 Don't spread absolute garbage theories without presenting some fact to confirm the story.
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
@UNIQUE1982 The story is confirmed by the video. The video rules out all the others. The video says someone was in the trunk. So I say they were in the trunk. The peopel of this country should rise up and throw out the whole government. We need to start over, because now we end up with a president is not legal to be president.
tubeyou9878 1 month ago
@tubeyou9878 The video says they were in the trunk? Stop spreading weak straw man information without any fact. People like you discredit and are detrimental to people seeking the truth regarding the assassination. There is no evidence to support your claim.
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
@UNIQUE1982 Look at the Harris77 video Look at frame 313. Look at the projectile going upwards above his head. Look at the angle. Go shoot a watermelon and film it. Everything will go in the direction of the bullet. If you shoot flat nothing will go upwards. If you shot nothing will blow back from where the bullet came from. Then keep looking at the film. You'll change your mind. Think when they kill someone they kill them close. They could shoot from the trunk and other shooters to make noise
tubeyou9878 1 month ago
Notice how Connolly is reacting exactly at the same time with Kennedy, you can see Connolly in a lot of pain. Furthermore fram 313 is when Kennedy head is blown out, meaning a shot from behind outward. I'm not saying Oswald acted alone, but looks to me like the shots came from the TBD.
ADAMSIXTIES 2 months ago
@ADAMSIXTIES TBD trunk behind Da President?
tubeyou9878 1 month ago
@ADAMSIXTIES From behind outward? It was from behind from below. I think the shot went so far upwards is Kennedy had a back brace. The bullet hit the brace and went upwards. The energy is upwards. Look at Harris77 video. Keep looking at it. Look at the energy upwards. Keep looking at the video over and over again.
tubeyou9878 1 month ago
People, The single bullet theory is a decoy. Look at the head shot. Kennedy was shot from the FRONT, but Oswald was BEHIND them. How can someone shoot someone in the front of the head if they are behind them. The single bullet theory is distracting people from the head shot.
MegaTanner24 2 months ago
@MegaTanner24 Look at frame 313 Kennedy was shot by someone in the trunk. The other shooters were to make noise. They could have just shot from the trunk but they needed others to make noise to frame Oswald. The head shot you see is an exit wound.
tubeyou9878 1 month ago
@MegaTanner24 If as some theories state that JFK was hit in the right temple area why is there no exit wound on the opposite side of the skull? The only possible explanation I can think of is an explosive round but I am not an ammunition expert in any case. Whereas if you consider a small entry wound at the rear left (as per the angle JFK was looking) of the skull and exit or impact (internal) on the right front causing the massive flap evident in the zapruder.
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
I'll tell you what the guy falling backwards at :14 seems pretty convinced there was shots fired from the front/knoll area..
JCook3123 2 months ago
Wtf? Look at the driver of the car the same time kennedy's head pops.. is that a firearm?
xmaDDmiKKe420 2 months ago
It was the military industrial complex. The Oswald story just doesn't hold up.
SovietWarMachine42 2 months ago
stupid conspiracy people......
thearachnid09 3 months ago
at 0:13 seconds she tosses something and it slides down the trunk. She reaches for it and the secret agent grabs it for her. What was it? hmm?
ZacHaske 3 months ago
@ZacHaske his brains!
wakaw07 2 months ago
My Dad is in this film. He is standing next to the man in the hat. He was so close he saw Kennedys hair fly up when he got shot.
felixthejunkyardcat 3 months ago
who is that guy trying to jump on to the car?
insana111 3 months ago
@insana111 Secret Service agent Clint Hill.
alizarin89 3 months ago
@insana111 he's a secret service agent giving something to mrs kennedy. Not sure what he's doing, but whatever he is doing, it's because he is supposed to.
BloodyHeadbutt 3 months ago
did he get shot twice? right after he passes that sign it looks like he gets shot in the throat or chest! he even grabs his throat/chest
ElPsychochillero 3 months ago
@ElPsychochillero the first shot went in his back and came out through his throat (the reason he grabs his throat) the second shot goes through the front of his head and out the back, completely destroying his skull (the reason jackie kennedy is reatching on the trunk of the car.... to collect the pieces that were not already on her outfit at the time)
softie4cats 3 months ago
@softie4cats why would she collect his pieces? i think she just panicks and tries to get away... i didnt know that kennedy actually got shot twice though
ElPsychochillero 3 months ago
@ElPsychochillero she attempted collecting the pieces in hopes he would survive and they would be able to put his skull back together, and she did panic because she was covered in her husband's skull and brainmatter so the man (clint hill) one of JFK's secret service agent's is running close behind the car tryng to get her back in the car so the can get JFK to the hospital, though he is already dead immidiatly after the shot to the head.
softie4cats 3 months ago
where did the bullet for the final head shot end up? that would be nice to know.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
head definitely moves forward first, then back on final hit.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
Make the screen full size and watch to 2 motor cycle cops in the upper left as soon and President Kennedy grabs his throat they both at the same time look towards the grassy knoll!!!!
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Kennedy was shot by someone hiding in the trunk. That's how he hit Kennedy and Connally at the same time. Then he readjusted and shot from another angle. Look at how the shit exited. Does someone have to spell it out for you? Email the FBI and ask them. I know and FBI agent and he said there was assassin in the trunk. Come on guys this isn't 1800. We got video we can look at You got a video right there and you can't figure it out? Freeze frame 313 and see the bullet exit. It's right there.
tubeyou9878 4 months ago
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this shouldnt be allowed on youtube... we all just watched a real murder on video
TangeClown 4 months ago
Oh, who is the man lying in the middle of the car? He is in great shooting-position. And the smoke of his gun is clearly to be seen in front of Kennedy´s head. So, if you asked me, I would say that this guy, who´s Hollywood-ready acting, as if he´d been hit, he is the murderer. Quite simple and clearly to be seen. Why should anybody search for a different explanation? This is soo obvious and the case is very easy to solve.
FlowTrainer 5 months ago
These Evil LBJ statements WE believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
YOU want to see a guilty MAN? check this out , = LBJ coments on JFK assasination 1969.wmv
LBJ Evil joke about JFK
"I told? him that morning at breakfast...Son, I'm afraid this just ant' your day. Your going to the morgue and I'm going back to the White House"
cruisersism 5 months ago
You know something i wish the trunk thereory guy would just shut the fuck up with that bullshit.Look at kennedys head.The first shot at kennedy his head was stationary.He looked at the right a little then got shot behind in the neck.He looked down and leaned very little to the left leaveing him wide open for the next shot.LHO didnt have to adjust very much for the next shot.LHO shot him.The only benefit is oswald sufferd more.
shumpert67 5 months ago
oswald killed him
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
@bearsfootballin06 so oswald, with a crappy shot stated in the marines, pulled off "3" brilliant shots one of which hit several places of two men and the bullet wasnt even dented from the bone, and also that bullet paused in midair which the warren commission stated OH and also explain to us all how did a bullet from behind cause JFK to go back and to the left instead of forward? Wake up
Guerillaradio13 5 months ago
@Guerillaradio13 Only 2 of oswald's shots hit, the first and the last. the one in the middle missed. there's medical evidence that shows the bullet didn't have to hit the bones to break them. the bullet never paused in midair, it's common knowledge that Kennedy's seat was higher then Connely's which allowed the bullet trajectory to hit both of them the way it did. And he did go forward. In frame 312, it's stated that the bullet entered his head and lurched forward, before moving backwards
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
@bearsfootballin06 oh so I'm guessing you're one of these people who believe everything the Warren Commission released and believe EVERYTHING the oh so "truthfully" speaking US Government comes out with? No waking up then for you!
Guerillaradio13 5 months ago
@Guerillaradio13 I don't believe everything in the Warren Commission. It was a poorly preformed investigation in which they made several mistakes when it came to gathing their information.
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
@bearsfootballin06 2 hit but 1 missed? wait a minute think about this the 1 shot which hit all seven places (JFK and Connolly)...7 places from a rifleman with a crap shot in the marines from the 6th floor of a building with a crappy Italian rifle? Connolly also said AFTER he turned round from his right to his left is when he felt getting shot not when he was looking over his right shoulder WHICH the warren commission states happened with the magic bullet which so happened to pause in mid air!
Guerillaradio13 5 months ago
@Guerillaradio13 Yep, 7 places from that one shot. Pure luck that it acually hit Kennedy. Was aiming for Kennedy's head, but missed because he was a crappy shot, but it ended up hitting him anyway.
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
@bearsfootballin06 plus there were dozens of witness there who said they saw the car actually be struck by the bullets, yes BULLETS, on the windscreen for example! A 941 Italian-made Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5mm bolt-action is known for inaccuracy in its shooting as well as being an ineffective firearm. Dont forget the timing of the shots the W.C stated which for LHO when the guy didnt even qualify a Marksman in the Marines. Seriously man read into it more, please?
Guerillaradio13 5 months ago
@Guerillaradio13 I don't doubt that Oswald was a poor marksman. The assassination itself proved that. He fired 3 shots, only one of them acually hit what he was aiming for (Kennedy's head). Technically, he missed his target twice before he finally hit it. Also, eyewitness testimony has a history of being unreliable at best. Being able to literally see bullets hitting a windshield would be a physical impossibility for the human eye.
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
@bearsfootballin06 Nearly 50 people ran over towards the grassy knoll area, I doubt that many people would run over to that area when not 1 person went to the SBDB! He was accused though of being the gunman though, explain to me though how a bullet hits a guy in the back of the head but defies the Laws of Physics and propels JFK's body backwards not forwards which by the way does happen he doesnt go forward as you stated originally! Open your eyes lol
Guerillaradio13 5 months ago
@Guerillaradio13 People ran to the knoll for cover. There are numerous videos and pictures showing the citizens diving onto their stomachs on the knoll and covering their heads. It's also known that a police officer did run into the TSBD but was unable to capture Oswald.
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
@bearsfootballin06 Was the policeman who drew his firearm and ran up the knoll just looking for cover?
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
@Guerillaradio13 Youtube "JKF Assassination Zapruder Fim Enhanced". It's a slow motion, zoomed in, frame by frame look at the Zapruder film. From frame 312 to about 314, you can clearly see Kennedy's head lurch forward and open up, the lurch backwards due to Newtons law of Motion, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
bearsfootballin06 5 months ago
After finally looking at all of the evidence I can admit that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and there was no conspiracy. I admit it was a let down, but one has to face the truth at some point.
leighgate 5 months ago
The ride is retouched ?
HerrAbisZ2 6 months ago
I used to think there was a conspiracy. LHO acted alone people. Kennedy's head does move slightly forward then snaps back. Why does it snap back? Muscular reaction. No matter what I say the buffs will always find a way to twist the evidence.
Smithfilmproductions 8 months ago
Let's accept the facts, in one way or another Oswald was involved. Now ballistic claims from the Discovery channel are purely speculation, let's talk about motivation. Oswald genuinely hated America and capitalism but JFK was a left President and it is noted that Oswald had supported him. He was aiming for Governor Connally who was formerly the Secretary of the Navy and changed Oswald's discharge from honorable to dishonorable.
hothead591 11 months ago
@hothead591 i agree with you that it would not make sense for a commusit to kill kennedy, given how he seemed to be trying to ease up the cold war, but i saw on some special (not neccesarily guaranteed to be true) that oswald scored high on his marine corps (not the navy) marksmanship tests, so if he was aiming for connoly he would likely not have missed, or shot before kennedy was obstructing his shot.
IAMOCKWORD 9 months ago
@hothead591 That is probably the most illogical idea I have ever read. Why would someone assassinate Gov. Connally and by accident hit the president. I mean there way better times to have shot at a lower profile person and not the time that they would be riding in a car with the highest profiled target. Just a silly a thought I guess...
GonzoDr78 9 months ago
I'm not a conspiracy theorist or even a Kennedy enthusiast, but the way his head moves at the end from the final shot seems to defy physics if it was just Lee Harvey Oswald shooting from the 6th floor of a building that should have been behind him at that point.
jthittinger 11 months ago
@jthittinger when you shoot someone in the head, the exit wound is always bigger than the entrance wound and the head always jerks towards the shooter. Its counter intuitive, but it's a real effect. You get the same thing with a melon wrapped in shrink wrap
marcmischief 11 months ago 2
@marcmischief yah your right. It has something to do with a persons muscles naturally moving in the direction of the impact. That's why is head jerked backwards, because his body was naturally responding to an impact.
TickMiester95 6 months ago
@marcmischief At last the voice of sanity. But don't think you'll convince the conspiracy theorists with simple & well established laws of gunshot wounds.
MALCBAGGIE 2 months ago
Man, you've got problems. Who are you trying to convince with all these idiotic posts? Yourself, perhaps. Go away, little man, and stop bothering me with your psycotic manifestations of what you THINK happened 50 years ago.
mkp823 11 months ago
wow poor guy. i hope JFK felt no pain...
sanyo51 11 months ago
I've shot rifles and pistols of various calibers from .22 to .30-30. At age 10, I had an 'air rilfe'. Even a BB would knock a can off a post and --guess what --it did NOT fall toward me, you idiots. Now, the results are more interesting with a thirty-thirty. It knocks the SHIT out of target --BACKWARD aways from the shooter, you morons. Now --if JFKs head had been made of JELLO, you might have a case. Otherwise, you're full of shit!
lennhart 11 months ago
In summary: 1) the Warren commission cannot place the ONLY hard evidence it has (CE-399) at the scene of the crime. It has no bona fides and would have been, should have been THROWN OUT of court. 2) z stablized proves that the fatal shot came from the front as intelligent people have known for years; 3) Evidence relative to the JFK assassination had been TAMPERED with while in govt possession. I have PERSONAL knowledge of this and will be happy to make a deposition for a REAL investigation.
lennhart 11 months ago 5
@lennhart thank you so much. on another video i posted about the fact of where he was shot from and how the fact that the shots were fired too fast for a mediocre marksman like odwald. And Oswald shot him in the back, yet the shot that killed him was from the front. Questions anyone?
MiZzLe416 4 months ago
@lennhart Two questions: 1. How do you account for the damage the doctors say they see at the right rear of the skull? If the shot impacted the right front? 2. Why was there no exit wound on the rear left?
UNIQUE1982 1 month ago
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Again --the MAGIC BULLET is supposed to have traversed 15 layers of clothing, 7 layers of skin, some 15 inches of tissue, struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. But it CANNOT BE PLACED AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME. CE-399 as found on a gurney in the corridor at the Parkland Memorial Hospital, in Dallas. The Warren Commission found that this gurney was the one that had borne Governor Connally --NOT JFK
lennhart 11 months ago 2
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Imagine that Oswald had not been shot! The 'government' would have been forced to prove its case against him in court or SHUT THE FUCK UP! CONVENIENTLY for those who needed a patsy, Oswald was murdered and saved those who might have had to prosecute the case a severe embarrassment in court when the pack of bullshit they now call the Warren Commission was thrown out of court by a COMPETENT judge.
lennhart 11 months ago 2
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lennhart 11 months ago
In summary --Zapruder stablized proves conclusively that the fatal shot came from the front. That is CONSISTENT with the FACT that CE-399 could not have been the fatal shot and we knew that already! It is pristine, cannot be proven to have been fired at any time ever! It was found on the wrong gurney at Parkland Hospital and cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime. MAGIC BULLET INDEED! The Warren Commission report must be utterly discarded. It was a lie and a cover up.
lennhart 11 months ago 2
@Cannibal713 free lesson for you: a bullet DOES NOT GO THROUGH something BEFORE it strikes it delivering what scientists call KINETIC ENERGY. The only exception might be FOAM! Even air will resist a projectile. Putty --if it is very thick --might stop a bullet. I suggest you do some research re: the HARDNESS OF BONE before you indulge your delusions and rationalizations. Secondly, what you say only supports the fact that CE-399 was PRISTINE and cannot be placed at the scene of the crime.
lennhart 11 months ago 4
@lennhart
Dude, I haven't said anything to you in about . . . oh, two weeks. You're bordering on "obsessive psychopath." Stop now.
SansAuthoritas 11 months ago
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lennhart 11 months ago
@SansAuthoritas Since you do not know the meaning of 'psychopath' I looked it for u: "mental illness: the psychological state of someone who has emotional or behavioral problems serious enough to require psychiatric intervention wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by an abnormal lack of empathy combined with abnormally immoral conduct ...." That describes you to a 'T'. Obsessing over me is one of your symptoms. LOL LOL
lennhart 11 months ago
sorry I pissed off all the nut jobs posting here. Everything I posted is consistent with both science and logic. The nut jobs are those who 1) cannot follow a simply syllogism; 2) are threatened by it and those who use it 3) insist upon 'dictating' their own lies, false analogies, misstatements and get pissed off when a victim refuses to play their stupid game. Fact is --morons believe the WC fairy tale because: "...they can't handle the truth!" ---a symptom of psychosis.
lennhart 11 months ago
@SansAuthoritas No posting in about two is HARDLY 'obsessive" LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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lennhart 11 months ago
EVERYBODY! watch the driver! he clearly looks back, then pulls up what appears to be a silver m1911 .45. as the pistol rocks back due to recoil you can see president kennedys head fly back from the direction of the driver and the pistol he clearly wields in the film
genehackman13 11 months ago
I hate to rain on a parade. But when a person is shot, especialy with a high velocity projectile. They don't get blown back in the direction of fire, like ii the movies. The bullet passes tho, leaving a large exit wound. You can see the gore flying forward like from a shot from behind....Oswald (a trained and skilled Marine Rifleman) killed America's 35th president. Get on with your lives, and remember JFK's life and not the manner of his death.
Cannibal713 11 months ago
@Cannibal713 I have not shot people but have shot game. It does NOT fall toward me unless some OTHER force is applied. The laws of physic were NOT repealed to make the Warren Commission look competent or honest. 2) this debate is irrelevant. The WC is built around a single bullet --CE-399. Pristine, obviously never having been fired at all, it was found on a gurney--perhaps the wrong gurney. Lacking those 'bona fides' a competent just would have dismissed it. Ergo: OSWALD WALKS.
lennhart 11 months ago 2
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lennhart 11 months ago
@Cannibal713 Having fired numerous firearms in my life, I say that you are dead wrong. When a high velocity projectile strikes a target is does precisely what you say that it does not ---the target gets blown back by by what physicists call KENETIC ENERGY. Clearly --you have never shot a rifle nor even a BB gun. I used to knock all kinds of targets off fences with BB guns (air rifles), pellet guns, .22 caliber and 30.06 caliber as well as shotguns. NONE of them ever fell in my direction.
lennhart 11 months ago
@lennhart STFU
AJx408x 1 year ago
@AJx408x You first, asshole! As Jack said: "You can't handle the truth!" I have a suggestion for you and other liars ---FUCK OFF!
lennhart 11 months ago 3
MAGIC BULLET is said to have traversed 15 layers of clothing, 7 layers of skin, and approximately 15 inches of tissue, struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. The bullet was found on a gurney in the corridor at the Parkland Memorial Hospital, in Dallas, after the assassination. The Warren Commission found that this gurney was the one that had borne Governor Connally --NOT JFK My opinion: BULLSHIT!
lennhart 1 year ago 4
You can find a good quality PIC of the MAGICAL BULLET at the JFK Lancer. It is doubtful that this near pristine bullet had EVER been fired at all. Certainly ---the other bullet fragments are all smushed up, distorted, deformed often beyond recognition. It's just another instance in which the OFFICIAL JFK THEORY is utter FRICKIN BULLSHIT. Oswald would have walked. Maybe that's he had to take the fall or why he had to die.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
It's amazing to me that so many millions think they know shit that they could not possibly know. Bluntly --some 90 percent of YouTubers (especially the wing nuts) post crap about which they could not POSSIBLY know anything. People seem to be over impressed with themselves when, in fact, they know very little if ANYTHING at all. Sad, really, when you think about it!
lennhart 1 year ago 4
@lennhart
Be humble.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
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lennhart 1 year ago
Arlen Specter did the nation a disservice with the MAGIC BULLET theory. CE-399 had never been fired Every other bullet said to be connected with JFK was VASTLY smushed and/or distorted. But the ONE bullet that is said to have done ALL the damage is PRISTINE--nary a scratch and NONE that is consistent with ANY of the magical antics that are attributed to it. The OFFICIAL THEORY re: JFK is utter bullshit for which there is NO credible evidence whatsoever!
lennhart 1 year ago 10
@lennhart Read "Case Closed". It will give you some insight about the "magic bullet".
TennyConductor 9 months ago
@lennhart Kennedy-and-Connolly-were-both-shot-at-the-same-exact-time-by-a-shooter-in-the-trunk.Then-he-changed-his-angle-and-shot-him-in-the-head.The-other-shooters-were-to-create-sound.All-shots-were-from-inside-the-trunk.Two-bullets-inside-the-car.Solved.
tubeyou9878 5 months ago
No assassin would even consider shooting from TBSD. Stupid! you have to ditch a klunky Mannlicher-Carcano and hope no one finds it, you have to run down six flights of starts into the waiting arms of the law! !! Bullshit! No assassination --certainly not a CIA trained assassin --is going to be so amateurish. Witnesses say Oswald was seen having a coke in a lunch room somewhere between the 6th and ground floors! A guilty man does not do that!TSBD is the WORST position from which to pull off a hit
lennhart 1 year ago 4
This STABILIZED FOOTAGE confirms Dallas Police Chief Curry who stated flatly -- In 1978-- that the fatal shot came from the front. The Zapruder film confirms him. If V Bugliosi took his case to court, a competent judge would throw out the the 'magic bullet' (CE 399) for lacking bona fides. It had never been fired! But that does not even matter --it was found on a the wrong gurney at Parkland, it CANNOT BE PLACED at the scene of the crime.
lennhart 1 year ago 5
No professional hit man would have chosen the TSBD.Pro shooters are concerned with GET AWAY, EGRESS. In Dallas, egress had been secured behind the grassy knoll. The TSBD was the worst possible position. No get-away is possible! Are we to believe that LHO ditched the murder weapon where it was SURE to be found with his prints on it and then RUN DOWN six flights of stairs into the waiting arms of the law??? I don't think so! Also --a TSBD shot is about 4 times distance to target as grassy knoll,.
lennhart 1 year ago 13
@lennhart No professional hit man did. A bitter sociopath twerp wound up by listening to commie propaganda from Cuba on his short wave radio happened to work there. Motive + opportunity.
brazenlilraisin 1 year ago
@brazenlilraisin Nonsense for which you have NO evidence. If you think so --cite it. Again, you really need to take some courses in 1) physics 2) law/debate/forensics. For example, you just state SHIT but never prove or support. You just expect me to believe it. As for METHOD, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY Oswald cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime, nor can any forensic connection be made between Oswald and the so-called 'magic bullet'!
lennhart 1 year ago 4
@brazenlilraisin If I were going murder a prez, I would get an XP-100 fireball and take up a position in a secured and OBSCURED area. I would want to fire when the apparent lateral motion of the target is minimal vis a vis my own position. At some point, JFK's lateral motion RELATIVE TO THE SHOOTER is minimal. Having been to DEALY personally, I can tell you that that point is found on Zapruder film --FRAME 313. That position is also about 1/5 or 1/4 the distance to target as a TSBD shooter.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
@brazenlilraisin The man who fired the fatal shot was --in fact --a pro! Oswald was NO pro but LHO was NOT the shooter, could not have been. His ONLY known position re JFK's murder was on the second floor having a soda! Everything else about him re: TSBD is pure speculation --not a shred of it would have escape a competent judge or a competent defense attorney. The state had NO case against Oswald. He had to die. Had he been tried, he would have WALKED, perhaps TALKED to the chagrin of the CIA.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
@brazenlilraisin Commie propaganda?? How do you know it was commie propaganda? Were you there? I think not! If you say you were ---PROVE IT!
lennhart 1 year ago 4
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lennhart 1 year ago
@brazenlilraisin So you were told but what you were told is utter fucking bullshit. Had the case gone to trial, Oswald would have walked. The prosecution could not put what it claims was the FATAL bullet at the scene of the crime; cannot prove it had even been FIRED; cannot prove Oswald --whom witnesses say was drinking a coke in the lunch room --was even in the sixth floor at the time of the shooting. Certainly --NO ONE has proven (to the satisfaction of a court) that CE-399 had ever been fired
lennhart 11 months ago 2
@brazenlilraisin You don't know that. How could you? Do you claim to have known Oswald personally? You're just spouting off shit about which you know nothing. cite some evidence or STFU
lennhart 11 months ago 2
@lennhart fukkin christ on a popsicle stick, how lonely are you? I posted that last month, don't you have anybody else to talk to, perhaps somebody who
gives a shit?
brazenlilraisin 11 months ago
@brazenlilraisin I am not lonely at all. LOL LOL and you're line about 'someone who gives a shit" ....When I first heard that I laughed so hard I kicked the slats out of my baby bed! Face it; you're a moron. LOL LOL
lennhart 11 months ago 2
@brazenlilraisin typical of losers --when they've lost they try to 'characterize' their opponents in some stupid way. Who says I'm lonely? ONLY you! Again --you are indulging a delusion. Secondly, who cares if I were lonely? What if I were? Would that render false anything I've said?? NO --it would not. I suggest you get a clue, get a life.
lennhart 11 months ago
@brazenlilraisin You are just just pulling NAIVE, uninformed speculation out of your ass. You do NOT murder a president with amateurs. It was a pro job with a built in 'cover' however obvious. FACT: no one can prove that CE-399 ---said to be the fatal shot --was 1) even at the scene of the crime; 2) had ever been fired. Now--if you think otherwise, PROVE IT! calling names doesn't matter and, if it were done in court, the JUDGE would have your sorry ass removed.
lennhart 11 months ago 2
@lennhart I believe that Oswald's true mental state will never be known because of the self indulgent actions of Jack Ruby. It is hard to think one man could alter the course of history, but in the end this was a murder. And murderers make the most stupid mistakes, even if they are expert marksmen. In my opinion, to pull off an assassination by proxy would involve too many people. The only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead. And this would have taken many many more.
PacificEdibleSeaweed 7 months ago
No professional hit man would have chosen the TSBD.Pro shooters are concerned with GET AWAY, EGRESS. In Dallas, egress had been secured behind the grassy knoll. The TSBD was the worst possible position. No get-away is possible! Are we to believe that LHO ditched the murder weapon where it was SURE to be found with his prints on it and then RUN DOWN six flights of stairs into the waiting arms of the law??? I don't think so!
lennhart 1 year ago 5
As a kid hoping to be a big league pitcher, I used to practice a fast ball against a picket fence. One day --I smoked one right over 'home plate' knocking the SLATS right out of the fence. Guess what ---the slats DID NOT fall forward! They FELL BACKWARD upon being hit from the front. I use to target practice a BB gun against tin cans on a post. Guess what! NONE of those tin cans fell forward. I used to fire .22 and 30 ought 6 rounds at various targets. NONE of them EVER fell toward me.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
I have been to Dealy Plaza many times, having lived in Dallas while employed by KNUS [MacClendon broadcasting] I have visited Dealy on numerous occasions and have interviewed a witness to the JFK murder. Had I wanted to murder the Prez, I would have secured the area behind the picket fence and the RR tracks. A double page spread in LOOK MAGAZINE [ pub1964] depicts a TRAIN on the RR tracks behind the knoll. E. Howard Hunt (see his 'confession'), Frank Sturgis et al had SECURED the area.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
And --I not only saw the LOOK MAGAZINE spread, I saw the original slide taken by Phil Willis whose 35mm slides are almost as famous as Z-film. I interview Willis' daughter --she is the little girl in the red dress clearly seen on Z-film running along side the motorcade. The FBI seized the Willis' photos AFTER the spread depicting the train had appeared in Look Mag. When the sliders were returned to Rosemary Willis years later, they had been tampered with while in FBI possession.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
From Mondo Media: "The killing shot that spread JFK’s brains all over the trunk of the limo – the pieces of which Jackie tried to crawl out to retrieve – was so obviously from the front of the car, any suggestion that the shot came from behind is ridiculous." When Z film was first released but not yet made public, DAN RATHER said pretty much the same thing re JFK's head that it move '....BACK to the left'. That's because the fatal shot came form the FRONT, the grassy knoll.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
in this stabilized version it' more than obvious.
The fatal shot came from the grassy knoll
wwwtwcom 1 year ago 2
The only thing that's a mystery is here is: who are the dumbasses that have been voting up the two most retarded comments?
brazenlilraisin 1 year ago
@brazenlilraisin Not me ---I voted you down!
lennhart 1 year ago
i know this may not seem like anything but look at 0:12 very carefully it looks like the driver Turned around quickly and shot him while everyone was look at the president
miaka111 1 year ago
CE399 --the bullet SAID to caused JC's wounds and the FATAL shot seen on the zapruder film --cannot be placed at the scene of the crime. ERGO: a COMPETENT judge would have thrown it out of court had the case gone to trial. Without CE399 the JFK LIARS might as well be talking about GREEN CHEESE on the moon. If they cannot place CE399 at the scene of the crime, NOTHING said by them about Zapruder makes any sense at all.
lennhart 1 year ago 5
CE399 is the bullet SAID to caused JC's wounds and the FATAL shot seen on the zapruder film. There is YET another reason that is impossible. The BULLET that is alleged to have been the fatal bullet was ---IN FACT --found on a the wrong gurney at Parkland Hospital and cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime. ERGO: there is no reason to believe it had ANYTHING at all to do with the murder. Lastly: if CE399 CANNOT be placed at the scene, then the JFK liars have NOTHING in their support.
lennhart 1 year ago 5
@lennhart
you said the same thing in every post about the hospital and the gurney. its obvious that something weird went on that day. thats why oswald got popped. the whole plan had to of been elaborate considering the target was a president. but how elaborate it was is really the question. the answer to that would probably be the most shocking of all. the govt is looking at the same video as us. we make the same assumptions as they do. whatevers being covered up is offensive to the govt.
gmandude420 1 year ago 2
@gmandude420 You're right. Sorry I was repetitive. Fact is --from a prosecutors point of view --there is NO case against Oswald without the 'magic bullet'. Without the magic bullet and verifiable connections to the 'throw down' weapon there is simply NO CASE whatsoever against Oswald. He was --indeed --a patsy. The 'real killers' knew this; that's why Oswald HAD to die. A competent judge would have thrown the case out. Oswald might never have gone to trial!
lennhart 1 year ago 3
@gmandude420 there is a reason for making the point that CE-399 had no BONA FIDES. The official THEORY, i.e, the govt's case is built around 399. If 399 cannot even be placed at the scene of the crime OR had never been fired, then NOTHING in the Warren Commission report can be believed. It's as simple as that! If the GOVT had tried to try OSWALD a competent judge would have THROWN OUT 399! Case dismissed! Do you really think the "govt" would have risked such a monumental embarrassment.
lennhart 1 year ago
Again ---youtube has proven to me that people will believe whatever lie reinforces their prejudices or makes them feel good about themselves. Until a CURE isfound for this, human society is DOOMED to live in tragically flawed societies where people are easily DUPED and EXPLOITED by whatever bullshit propagandists, liars and OTHER politicians find expedient to perpetrate!
lennhart 1 year ago 13
There were a TOTAL of ten wounds to both JFK and CONNALLY; and a total of 8 BULLET FRAGs found in various places to include the limo and Parkland hospital. But the 'magic bullet' is INTACT and cannot be placed at the scene of the crime! There are NO discenable missing fragments. WHERE did the other fragments comes from? I suggest they be WEIGHED and an estimate made of HOW MANY bullets TOTAL were fired that day. That would put the SINGLE GUN MAN THEORY to rest FOREVER!
lennhart 1 year ago 5
Secondly, I have shot hundreds of tin cans. I have never shot one from the front that DID NOT fall backward. I have shot almost as much 'game'. I have NEVER shot any game that fell toward the gun upon being hit.
lennhart 1 year ago 6
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I've shot bowling pin matches. They fall forward on a regular basis when hit with a high-velocity rifle. Depends where you hit them and how much resistance the bullet meets going through. Yes, ultimately, they're pushed back, but they often fall forward.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Not analogous. I have bowled too. Unless a force or bounce comes from BEHIND the pins fall back and away from the ball which strikes them. If there is one ball and one pin, the pint falls BACK in the direction of the ball which strikes it. It NEVER fails. Isaac Newton is confirmed every day until and unless you APPROACH the speed of light LOL LOL
lennhart 1 year ago 2
@SansAuthoritas bowling pins struck from the front DO NOT fall forward! I've also played golf. If what you say were true (it's not) perhaps I should PUTT in the opposite direction of the hole! Perhaps, I should stop trying to knock a ball in the hole by swinging the golf club in the general direction of the hole!!! Perhaps, I should turn around and try to knock the ball into the HOLE behind me!!! Don't be stupid! SUGGESTIONS 1) find a community college 2) take a FIRST SEMESTER Physics course!
lennhart 1 year ago 3
@SansAuthoritas No ---they do NOT fall forward upon being struck form the front! I bowl And I have NEVER seen anything remotely resembling what you describe.
lennhart 1 year ago 2
I have played golf from time to time. I have NEVER EVER stuck a ball that moved AWAY from the green. And --on the green --I have never tried to sink a PUTT by knocking the ball in a direction OPPOSITE to the hole. Again --contrast on the frames can reduce images to ABSTRACT shapes which can be referenced against a GRID. Guess what --JFK head is knocked back by a shot from the front. PERIOD!
lennhart 1 year ago 19
@lennhart
Lenn, an object tends to stay in place until acted upon by an outside force. I'm sure you've never hit a ball that moved away from the green, but I'm sure you felt the resistance from the ball, didn't you?
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Precisely. JFKs head was 'acted upon' by a bullet fired from the front, driving the head back as can be PROVEN by Zap film. Statements that two bullets were fired from the direction the TSBD WERE "starkly contradicted" by TESTIMONY of doctors and nurses who attempted to save Kennedy’s life at Parkland. TWO GROUPS of doctors saw a head wound in the back or back-right of the head as a result of a bullet that came from the front. Simply, that conclusion is support by ZAPRUDER!
lennhart 1 year ago 5
@SansAuthoritas Indeed and the ball move forward upon being struck in that direction. So what? I have never swung at a ball that moved BACK on me or in a direction OPPOSITE to the force that struck it and set it into motion in the first place. Elementary physics.
lennhart 1 year ago 3
@lennhart
Look up Penn and Teller Kennedy head. You can watch in slow motion as the contents are evacuated out the back of the target, while the target goes forward. I'm sorry. It's just the way physics works as the contents of anything, a human skull or a watermelon, are evacuated.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Last time I checked Penn and Teller were SHOWBIZ types who specialize in illusion, misdirection. Another real life example: as a kid I had a MEAN fast ball. I could knock the slats out of a wooden fence with a considerable accuracy. Guess what --NEVER did a slat move forward to MEET the ball NOR did the slat EVER fall forward after being hit! CLUE: the extremist American right wing is NOT above the laws of physics.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
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@lennhart
Apples and oranges. You have to have the proper balance of velocity, and density of the missile and the target before you can start to see the phenomenon. Even then, you're not going to catch it without watching carefully and probably going frame by frame on a recording.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Bullshit! Kinetic energy IS kinetic energy in every case. That's why PHYSICS is a science. The density of the fucking target has NOTHING to do with its response to being hit. Of ANY density a body that is struck by another body will respond in ways that are MATHEMATICALLY predictable.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
@lennhart
You need to calm down, stop your foul language, and start treating people with respect.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas You need to take a remedial course in physics.
lennhart 1 year ago 2
@SansAuthoritas Look up David Copperfield. If you believe obects move INTO other objects that strike them then you probably believe that DAVID COPPERFIELD managed to walk through the great wall of China. I don't think so! And I also KNOW as a fact of physics that a bullet was responsible for JFKs head moving backward MEASURABLY upon being hit from the front.The MAGIC BULLET that is said to have been the FATAL SHOT was found on the wrong gurney at Parkland and CANNOT even be placed at the scene.
lennhart 1 year ago 5
@SansAuthoritas Nonesense! Next you will tell me that David Copperfield walked through the Great Wall of China. You need to look up NEWTON'S 1st law of motion or take a remedial course. Try M.I.T. 8.01 Physics I: Classical Mechanics
lennhart 1 year ago 2
@SansAuthoritas Physics was one of the courses I got A's in. Indeed, an object stays at rest until acted upon. JFKs head was acted upon by a bullet that knocked his head BACK and to the LEFT in accordance with NEWTON. Secondly, even if the so-called 'magic bullet' was fired from a another shooter in another location, that has NOTHING to do with the fact that the fatal shot came from the Grassy Knoll which which had been secured bey E. Howard Hunt, Sturgis et al.
lennhart 1 year ago 2
@lennhart What a genius the knoll shooter was, firing a shot so that it made an entrance wound the size of a grapefruit and an exit wound the size of an almond. [rolleyes]
brazenlilraisin 1 year ago
@brazenlilraisin Genius had nothing to do with it. The knoll shooter was at least a competent, perhaps, expert marksman. He had ONE window of opportunity, he took it and hit his target. The fatal shot came from behind the picket fence as EVERY agent at cop on the scene suspected at the time of the murder. After the shot, all the 'suits' were MOVING toward the picket fence --NOT the TSBD. And when the TSBD was scouted, Oswald was having a coke.
lennhart 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas another CLUE: the resistance of the ball is called INERTIA. Look it up! "Inertia" is tendency of an object at rest to remain at rest, unless acted upon by a force ---OR the tendency of an object in motion to remain in motion until it is acted upon by a FORCE! This is otherwise called Newton's First Law of Motion and will be covered in the REMEDIAL PHYSICS COURSE that I suggest you take at a convenient community college. BTW --my information re: inertia comes from M.I.T.
lennhart 1 year ago 2
@SansAuthoritas What you are TRYING to describe is one of Newton's basic laws of motion. 1) Every body remains in a state of constant velocity (or motionless) unless acted upon by an external force; 2) A mass [m] that is subject to an external net force [F] undergoes an acceleration "...IN THE SAME DIRECTION" as the applied force. In this case --the force of the bullet fired from the right front forces JFKs' head back and to the left consistent with Newton's formula F = ma.
lennhart 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas that's one of Newton's laws but NO WHERE in Newton will you find a 'law' that says that if you swing a golf club, the ball will move in a direction OPPOSITE to the hole !!!!!! Jeeeezzz The American education system has failed us all. Go back to the books. Read Newton before you presume to quote him.
lennhart 11 months ago
@lennhart You're a physics genius, aren't you? Yeah, hitting a golf ball is just like a bullet going through someone's head. That isn't even an apples to oranges comparison...
mkp823 1 year ago
@mkp823 NEWTON'S FUCKING LAWS apply to every solid matter that exists. Any more STUPID stupid questions. Clue: you should not have dropped out of Jr High. You missed a lot!
lennhart 1 year ago
A fired bullet has KENETIC ENERGY which it transferred to any object struck by it. The object with the greater kinetic energy --in this case the bullet --will exert a 'force' upon any object stricken by it. Thus:energy may be transferred. The backward motion of JFKs head is clear, unambiguous, and consistent with physics which predicts precisely what was filmed by Zapruder.
lennhart 1 year ago 7
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@lennhart
Lenn, if you get punched in the stomach, which way do you go until the full inertia catches you? Do you not double toward the punch, THEN fall back?
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Not even CLOSE to analogous. I have punched a few punching bags in my day. NONE ever MOVED FORWARD to meet a blow. This revisionism of science is stupid. These frames can be diagrammed. JFKs head does NOT move forward in anticipation of the 'hit' or, later, as a reflex in response to it. Nerves associated with a reflex are KNOWN and there are none in the forehead. In any case, the reflexes of the human body are known and cataloged and this is NOT one of them.
lennhart 1 year ago 7
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@lennhart
A punching bag is much harder than an unprepared human's stomach. This isn't about human reflexes, this is about physics. A body at rest tends to stay that way until acted upon by an outside force. A bullet cannot instantly transfer all its energy. If you've shot through a railroad rail, you'll see that the front of the hole curls outward. Same principle with the way Kennedy's head jerked for an instant.
SansAuthoritas 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Indeed, this is about PHYSICS. The ONLY time a punching bag moves toward the one throwing the punch is on the back swing. A punching bag is a PENDULUM; it swings TO and FRO. Pure physics. Indeed, JFKs head jerked BACKWARD when he was hit. Because, many ---for various reasons --will insist upon seeing what they want to see. But the stabilized film should put most of that BS to rest by taking 'apparent' movement to to camera shake et al OUT of the equation.
lennhart 1 year ago 4
@SansAuthoritas A punching bag is heavier. Look up Newton's first law of motion. Indeed, this is NOT about human reflexes and I never said it was. It is about PHYSICS pure and simple. Newton's first law has NOT been repealed. JFKs head was struck from his right (a shooter on the grassy knoll); ergo: JFKs head could have been predicted to go BACKWARD and to the left. It did precisely that.
lennhart 1 year ago 2
@lennhart In fact the formula is F = ma where F equals FORCE, m = mass and a = acceleration! Simply, a body [mass] subject to a force [ F] an acceleration [a] IN THE SAME DIRECTION the force and a magnitude that is directly proportional to the force. What is seen in the Z film is a real life demonstration of I. NEWTON'S forumula: F = ma
lennhart 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas Check ISSAC NEWTON ---a bullet INDEED transfers kinetic energy at the very INSTANT of contact. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the PHYSICS and MATH departments at M.I.T. Yale, Harvard, Cambridge, or the University of Houston (my Alma Mater) which is now researching interstellar space travel et al with grants from NASA. I suggest that if you have problem with the established science, you take it up with NASA and inform them that they are wasted their monies!!
lennhart 1 year ago
@SansAuthoritas That's what I have been saying for years! To CE-399 a mass in motion JFKs head was just another body! The effect upon JFKs head upon being struck from the front is PRECISELY described and predicted by established physics i.e, his head moved back and to his left upon being struck from the front and to his right! PURE PHYSICS, pure and simply! Newton's formula both describes/predicts what happens when one body strikes another. NOTHING mysterious but the BULLSHIT spread by liars!
lennhart 1 year ago 3