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  • problem with FFE fake is the possiblity of roaches coming out, which is harder to fight with zealots..

  • The fans = Sour about no hotkeys. But not I !!!! :D

  • Did you LOSE achiev points since the last game? cuz i watched #1 and you had 70...

  • sour about that probe split l:3

  • how do you connect to euro servers from North America?

  • @quiqieable You purchase a Euro account. That enables you to log onto an EU server.

  • When proxying,try making it look like a forge fast expand.. should throw him a bit offguard when it looks like ou are tryingto block the natural :)

  • Hotkeys are overrated. This makes me miss Warcraft 2, when mouseclicking was the sheat!

  • I imagined him to be on your left......

  • a korean 4 gate? lol

  • Use should totally get him to do a battle cruiser rush against a Zerg player, I don't see it nearly enough, or any battle cruiser armies really. I have only encountered it twice personally, the first time I was Terran going mass marine Thor, and got slaughtered, the second time I was Protoss, and I won, but man can battle cruisers tar up a army. So by that stand point, I want there to be a battle cruiser rush build shown.

  • Uhm, Jeff.. I see you have no friends online

    Just give us your code :>

  • i feel for you, as a representative of the female race

  • I just noticed in this game at the start the person says "glhf". Not unusual. You reply with "u as well sir". Not unusual HOWEVER I will have you know I am a girl and I play Starcraft! You should take into consideration the fact that it is not a male exclusive game and adjust your words accordingly...But yeh, love your stuff, was just kidding ;) (but I am a girl >_>)

  • @Purplerainfreak GUYS I AM A GIRL GUYS GIVE ME ATTENTION I AM A GIRL AND I PLAY GAMES AM I NOT AWESOME?!?!?!!?oneone!

    That is seriously how that sounds to us. Stop screaming your gender around because nobody cares. It sounds like Gordon Ramsey always telling everyone that he is a guy and that he is a good cook. No, he just says hes a good cook...

  • @TheAwesomified HEY, HEY I was only having a joke, like anyone cares what anyone has between their legs on here, chill out lol

  • @TheAwesomified There is much I don't like about Ramsey, but sadly he is a good cook.

  • @TheAwesomified You mean to You :p

  • i suck at competitive on this game i usually play custims : )

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  • Hmmm i have played vs MaximusBlack before, just noticed xD

  • someone just tried to cheese me but i got his pylon and in rage he put 2 assimilators on my gas. what a fail

  • Don't mean to be a dick, but is it possible for you guys to actually put "s" on the end of words you mean as plural?

    Example: Those roach (sic) are going to take out all of those zealots. I have 3 cannon to deal with the zerglings.

    It's not a big deal, I just find it really odd.

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  • why is the white guy allowed to tell the black one what to do? isn't that kinda racist?

    or does adam suck even worse at playing? :D

  • @ZheGerman adam is even worse, and he no longer plays starcraft, he just commentates.

  • how do u make a european account?

  • @mdevilm2

    buying european Version of the game and using the EU CD-Key

  • this is much better than when cheese fails cause when cheese fails FAILED and it took you guys long enough to figure out that this is what we would rather see instead. Anyways, more of this please

  • @Lightwish01 by failed, do you mean more popular and successful then all their other vids combined?

  • 4 gate is bitch cheese (not really but boring and gay)

  • How much lag do you get when playing on EU?

  • you should call it "maximus cheese."

  • so, when's the next European tourney?

  • Jeff you are amazing for not using hotkeys :D

  • sour bout that high ground

  • This looks so much better at more than 2fps like it was on the stream.

  • Who is MR.Black is that MaximusBlack ???

  • MR BLACK watch?v=57akjNPjD_0

  • When a proxy-gate backed by a cannon rush fails, the fast Void Rays are probably the most stylistically appropriate follow up. :D

  • this is fucking retarded how bad a toss can be and still win.

  • @tckz12 Try scouting much? He didn't scout for the proxy gates that were 2 steps away from his natural and still fast expanded upon seeing forge down.

    What's fucking retarded is how people like you cry imba when it's really just their shitty play that makes them lose.

  • @tckz12 apparently u dont understand here ill explain it too you he is cheesing for a show entertainment why would u use hotkeys for that u dint even give reasons why hes bad

  • Jeff can u pls give me ur character code for ur EU account...id like to add u :D <3

  • When's the next European Tournament? Hahaha jkjk

  • Possible good name for this section: The Cheesenator!

  • So that main of his was depending on ONE SINGLE PYLON for a really long time... Good thing he didn't ling counter with more units

  • @caddy0688 yeah i remember when they originally launched the channel they announced it on the GB forums, had no idea it would be so awesome back then

  • ATTENTION:

    This just in! MaximusBlack does not use hotkeys or play perfectly after only being able to play a few games a week since LAGTVs inception.

    WAIT! This also just in! Apparently early this morning, Mr. Black was caught outside of his apartment and issued this statement to reporters:

    "Honestly, I don't give a #$@%. It's a game."

    Surely this is a shocking revelation for SC2 fans everywhere.

    Adam

  • @LifesAGlitchTV I'm not really sure why anyone even cares whether he uses hotkeys or not; it's not like it affects them even slightly.

  • @LifesAGlitchTV

    I didn't want to say anything about Jeff's skill level, but you guys are kind of double teaming people.

    I wouldn't rag on anyone who gives so much support to the bronze level community for having macro slip, but with someone behind him reminding him to do things, your guys accounts could (should?) get closed.

  • @truthIsStranger Are you kidding me?

  • @truthIsStranger errr, trolling right? :P

  • @schoin

    Nah no troll, big big fan of theirs in a bad mood. : p

    They didn't play this one that way, so I kind of doubt it was Adam's intention to be coaching Jeff the first time around. I am just a critical snob. ^_^

  • @LifesAGlitchTV yes, this is the best part of this channel, the fact that not a single fuck is given is definitely my favorite part

  • @LifesAGlitchTV adun toridas

  • @LifesAGlitchTV Does it really matter? Maximus could just have insain perfect mouse clicking skills that rival hot keys so much that he finds them redundant?

  • u used cannons in the front of your gates ... :/

    this is not a clean proxy gate^^

  • OMG! Adam said "Good luck have Batman!" He's a Giant Bomb fan! Woohoo. Even better.

  • Everyone is having a heart attack about maximus's play style but actually he is pretty good. It's hard to play well when you are on the spot like this. He made errors but he was also obviously very distracted. Besides, he is aware of all of the small mistakes he made in game. It's just that if you don't practice for three to four hours everyday, those mistakes are really hard to correct.

  • I watched this live, but it was too laggy so I had to turn it off :/

  • You are not extremely fast with the mouse. You are ok, barely. Which puts you WAY behind anyone with hotkeys.

  • Oh god HOW am I in sliver whilst people like this are cruising in plat 0.0

  • @LilGreenManWhoSits You probably think you are better then you really are like i did when i was back in silver. When i was in silver i watched some platinum games and was like "I'm just as good as that." Now that i'm in platinum, if i go back and watch a silver replay of myself i just laugh at how horrible i truly was.

  • I really like this new series.

  • when he said proxy gateway, i made this hd

  • You shout about all these low levels playing horribly.. and then you play like this.. wow

  • @Ally123234 Yo dipshit, It's SAY CHEESE!! They're supposed to play horribly and try to cheese.

  • @theloneprotecter Rude guy :} I dont mean the build, I mean the execution, the lack of Hotkeys which they so regularly yell at LOW LEVELS for not doing.. Hardly any keyboard involved, attacking ridiculas targets.. Its amazing how he will rant at bronze players for not doing these basic things that he doesnt do him self.

  • @Ally123234 These games aren't supposed to be 100% serious.......................­... He's foolin' around and cheesing. Take a chill pill man.

  • @Ally123234 They have never accused anyone for not using hotkeys since it is impossible to tell whether people are or aren't during a replay. In addition they only "yell" at ppl who decide to bm and rage quit. They never "rant" at ppl for not attacking a target they should be attacking. I think you should reconsider your comment.

  • You guys should announcement when you are going to be playing again on the EU so we can get prepared for you guys. <3

  • Didn't you technically gg first? Not cool...

  • I never go onto Youtube any more for new vids from people I'm subscribed to, and I haven't played SC2 in months but I still check for new vids from you guys basically every day. Awesome work guys, keep it up

  • maximusblack is the one always having the biggest mouth bout how to make it right - so if i see ur style of play, im not sure anymore of the fact that u see urself higher as u are actually

  • @TigerArti You can say something is wrong even if you can't do it by yourself in an actual game. And he also said on one video, that he only plays like this when cheesing.

  • dude nexus rush, DO IT!!

  • learn to use hotkeys

  • 10 pylon and 10 chrono boost? have you never played toss before? noobish opener tbh

  • @Mrvoodoochild1

    did you watch the video, he explained why he doesn't hotkey/macro/micro well in these chesse games, he doesn't care as much as in the real game he plays

  • Great now bnet is going to be loaded with cheesers ><. Awesome video series keep em up!

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  • Do a 2vs2 say cheese!!!!

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  • Once the roaches were out he either should have retreated, went straight for the mineral line or just stayed near his cannon.

  • so glad when i saw this in my sub box

  • we are doing it live fuck it !

  • Dumb question but have u cheesed with every race? If so what race have u been more successful with Cheesing.

  • lol bill o'reilly reference

  • Dude... simply press B then N to build a nexus lol dont have to click the buttons.

  • @danielgirotto Don't you have to press w for Toss?

  • you want to know why you let your macro slip from 6:00 to 7:00? LACK OF HOTKEYS. Bronze players are smart enough to hotkey their gateways.

  • JUST learn to use hotkeys plz, dont need MOUSE DANCING!

  • is it just me? or does nova war sound more black than maximous black???

  • Lol, "Sitting next to me here is mr Black, I'm gonna tell him what race to be".

  • Orbital Command Rush!

  • k4g IS cheese.

  • @LeFreakSC2 it also looks where you where last season he probly just was in plat and was put back in. Its much easier to just get promoted to a league then win the season 2 match and get promoted

  • WHAT1!?!?! WHAT EU TOURNAMENT!!?? WHY DIDNT I KNOW ABOUT THIS SOONER?!?!!

  • plz use hotkeys

  • GIANT BOMB REFERENCE. FTW. I love you guys even more now

  • watching him build things with the mouse made me so angry

  • CHEEEEEEEEESE!

  • BILL O'RIELY QUOTE!!

  • @kickthecat75 bill orly

  • you two should play as a team and cheese

  • hotkeys + mouse = using 2 hands (most efficients for two handed human players)

    mouse only = noobsauce maximusblack who is not only dumb at portal 2 but fail at something he commentates on

  • @candybubbles TB uses hotkey and he sucks worse than Jeff.

    Yet he's one of the most popular SC2 commentators out there. So my point? First, not using hotkeys at all time /= noobsauce. Second, not being exactly good at something does not mean one cannot commentate it.

  • @Feaisian

    If you remember how to read, I commented on how it is most efficient to use both hands. Watch the video, he had to move his damn camera to look at the gateways then click on the gateways then click on the zealots. By the time he did that, his units are gone, and he forgets to make probes and lost all sense of macro. All due to the fact that he micros slow as hell. Lucky him his opponent is weak as fuck

    If you think its tolerable then you must be noobsauce like him.

  • @candybubbles "Tolerable" or not, he's still gonna be great as a commentator and about a million times more popular than you, if you remember how to read, that's basically what I meant.

  • @LeFreakSC2 Whatever league you are in is an accurate representation of your skill, the matchmaking system is very good.

  • @LeFreakSC2 depends on the people you defeat

  • Lol Maximus saying he doesnt need hotkeys, you would be SO much better with hotkeys, you can move SO much faster around the map. Sure you ARE a good clicker, but hotkeying your army and production building would help you a LOT

  • Can you guys move the LAGTV banner somewhere else for Live Games?? =)

  • What happened to Unit Hall of Fame?

  • When is the next European tournament?!?!

  • you guys r the best gaming channel ever. i dont think i should bring religious arguments to youtube, but you are part of what i believe the holy trinity is: VALVE-BLIZZARD-LAGTV!!!! oh and BETHESDA is great too...

  • MaximusBlack... Y U NO USE HOTKEYS!!

  • @tolietpaper UMADBRO ?

  • epic Southern accent interlaced with that Atlantic Canadian accent.

  • Blaximus Cheese!!!

  • You should TOTALLY do a worker rush....you know, since you guys love them so much

  • lol, korean four gate, what is that, ohhh well you guys are awesome and deserve all the support you get, stay awesome, stay science <3

  • No matter how fast you are with the mouse, you can position your fingers for the hotkeys you need in advance, you can't position your mouse in advance. You can also click the control group tabs, so having control groups is still good even if you refuse to use the keyboard.

  • you had 2 idle probes...plus u should get hotkeys they help but its your play style so..

  • Question. What would happen if Roach Warren requirements swapped with Hydralisk Den?

    Hydra den = hatchery tech like in SC1 and Roach Warren requires Lair tech.

  • @DreadRaptor85 Zerg would be much better off.

  • @DreadRaptor85 Zerg would be balanced. Lol.

  • @DreadRaptor85 I primarily play zerg, and I really like that Idea, I feel like the scale of both should be changed reguardless, the hydras don't give you enough for your money and roaches feel pretty cheap. If they switched the tech they would just need to reduce the hydras dmg and health by like 10 or 20 percent and increase roaches by the same. I'd like it

  • When is the next European tournament?

  • I don't think he is as fast with the mouse clicks as he thinks he is.....learn some hotkeys man!

  • @dannyngo56 well he doesnt play toss generally so...

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  • maximus is gonna do whatever adam tells him? this sounds like some freaky webcam shit, interesting idea for a series

  • wow maximus you are really slow. you sure you want to keep ignoring the hotkeys?

  • mothership rush isn't cheese, it's actually hard to win with in any higher league.

  • i think maximusblack is High Silver or Low Gold. no hotkey, mouse only. poor reaction timing, slow macro, not a lot of micro.

  • mothership rushes are actually pretty hard to execute right, lets keep it simple hehe

  • i love you guys but its just fuckin funny how protoss can with such shit play win games..

  • Good luck have batman! Lagtv are Giant Bomb fans.

  • Watching you guys play hurts my brain...

    Mass cannons, no hotkeys, idle void rays not attacking the right stuff, ONLY USING THE MOUSE.

    Brain fart.

  • You use that mouse like a bouse jeff ;)

  • Road to Diamond.

  • Haha ffs this is so fucking funny :D... Even though your unit control's really crappy XP And hotkeys... man I don't care how fast you're pulling that mouse.. hotkeys own that either way! :P Looks like you're playing with a x-box controller like when you did that portal 2 co-op shiet! haha

  • this series is full of awesomeness.

    you guys are full of awesomeness.

  • Hey Adam and Jeff are you gonna save the other Say Cheese With Maximum Black Games 3-11 for later and release one or two every week? I mean the ones you did during the live event. And you sing like gods :) It was a fun show and thanks to blade that really tryed and fix your problem. Peace out :)

  • SC2 is ruined/ruled by cheeser and protoss 8 minutes voidrays .

    WTS SC2, this has nothing to do with a strategy game anymore .

  • @arillle Well, Scouting counters all that

  • @Mattybeany its not a pb of scouting, its that in 95% of the time, protoss goes for 8 minutes voidray .

    Always using the same strat makes rounds vs protoss pointless ( Im playing zerg )

    WTS SC2, a ' strategy game ' . Half price, its yours .

  • @arillle Oddly enough, i never get voidrays against me, Its always 4 gate,, And I am zerg aswell. Always 4 gate/marine tank push, Both zerg have an issue with. Zerg is just a imbalanced race at the moment personally.

    SC2 I enjoy alot, but i do agree, it has been a let down from what we thought it would be

  • @arillle Also, that sort of nonsense stops working at all at the higher levels.

  • @arillle So the constantly expanding community of tournaments in which top players come up with fresh and interesting strategies that serve them well through games that often hit 30-40 minutes is a lie?

    Don't like cheese? Why are you watching a video about cheese? You want to see pro games, Husky, HD, TB, Day9, etc, will serve you well.

  • @MadBloodKing I subscribed to this channel yesterday after watching when a cheese fails 101 video .

    I'm already subscribed to HD and I enjoy it, but you cant have this kind of match in SC2 .

    Do you often see these elite players going for 8 minutes voidray/banshee . Strangely not .

    But if you play normally, this is what you'll get : from protoss, 95% chance of voidray and from terran : 60% chance of banshee .

    Here is my stats for this so called ' strategy game ' .

  • @arillle I haven't seen void ray masses in ages (at least not in 1v1), and banshees are super easy to counter. And yes, I am a low level (silver) player, where you are most likely to see this kind of stuff.

  • @arillle 1-good

    2-That's my point, as it would be scouted and they would lose

    3-Just keep scouting, as long as you rack up the easy wins you'll start playing with people who will take the game more seriously.

    4-Still in bronze here due to noobness but I have plenty of fun as a zerg, besides, unlike my WoW, I'm not obligated to myself to fully experience the game, my 60 bucks have been invested and I never have to pay more.

  • @arillle youre an idiot

  • @teferi66

    youre?

  • @DreadRaptor85 are you really correcting the fact that I dont have an apostrophe in the word "you're"?

  • @arillle Hahaha, oh wow. You should have played SC1 before 1.08. Nothing in SC2 comes close to the original zergling rush. If cheese ruled then the pros would all be cheesing. Stop blaming your losses on the game and learn to play better.

  • @arillle one word scouiting cheese is easily countered w/ scouting basically any one base play is easy if you scout and know how to counter

  • Wow that's a lot of lag.

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  • wow no offense but maximus is pretty terrible at this game...

  • @mrtretre100 Proof that your a higher rank or your opinion dosen't count.

  • @Vancityjustin

    everyones opinion counts, rank is unimportant

  • @Outrageouss2 You can't call someone terrible unless your better.

  • @Vancityjustin all i know is that there are many things he could have done better and earlier. he made a 10 pylon, he could have made a cyber minutes earlier. his second stargate could have gone down at the same time as his first, and he should have anticipated his supply block when he first started making his voids, as the roaches were destroying his pylons at the zerg base. if you can't see this you're probably bronze league. i laugh at you

  • @mrtretre100 I actually did see all of this the point is if your not ranked hjigher you can't say hes bad, also picking out all of this stuff while playing is a lot harder to do then while watching. No one ever plays a perfect game, dosen't make him terrible.

  • @mrtretre100 he's doing this for fun :P on his actual account hes a rank 2 platinum

  • @MrNommerz well that explains it. platinum is noob so makes sense