stopporn, women have more rights than men in the West, you feminazi bitch. This is the 21st century,not the 19th century, so stop bitching and whining. This is just a misandrist thrash from a mangina? What proof do you have that the vast majority of porn is a dick shoving down a woman's throat and calling her a bitch?? have you seen every video that has come out and count them one by one? or that is just your feminazi imaginiation?
Nabku- you need to educate yourself, seriously, it is obvious from your writing and expression that you are challenged intellectually and limited in your critique of any culture. Your purpose is obviously to insult and cause offense. You clearly have huge personal issues that need to be taken care of. Your comments are laughably simple and juvenile in the extreme. Good luck with growing into someone more substantial
saba,What bothers you and other people is that I have my own mind and I refuse to be indoctrinated by the likes of Jensen. I've read many of his atrocious writings,I've read Andrea Dworkin too,apparently his mentor, a woman that needed psychiatric help. I'm considered myself raeasonable person. I support pro-choice in abortion for women,I support same-sex marriage.I'm all about having choice, what I don't support is clowns like this guy trying,deciding for himself what is really"a choice".
There is a book about feminism gone wrong, (not that all feminism is like this as that insane supremicist Floyd is saying), called FEMALE CHAUVINIST PIGS by Ariel Levy. Some of us know that some women are using their hard won sexual freedoms to know turn the ables on men and use and manipulate them with sex as well. Real women and feminists recognize that exploitation on either side is wrong and that this is a fight for equality for all races, genders, orientations, religions, and so on...
There can be no human rights until there are women's rights. It's clear from the behavior of some men, that we still have a long way to go. Women have to fight this kind of oppresion and we will NOT be bullied into submissin or silence by little men who use profanity, gaslighting, mental insanity, violence, or pornography or sex, to control women in any way. IF YOUHAVE TO RESORT MANIPULATION OR VIOLENCE TO CONTROL OTHERS you are a tyrant, and mentally ill.
There can be no human rights until there are women's rights. It's clear from the behavior of some men, that we still have a long way to go. Women have to fight this kind of oppresion and we will NOT be bullied into submissin or silence by little men who use profanity, gaslighting, mental insanity, violence, or pornography or sex, to control women in any way. IF YOUHAVE TO RESORT MANIPULATION OR VIOLENCE TO CONTROL OTHERS you are a tyrant, and mentally ill.
There can be no human rights until there are womn's rights. Its clear from the behavior of some men, that we still have a long way to go. Women have to fight this kind of oppresion and w will no be bullied into submissin or silence by little men.
"Injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice anywhere." - MLK
The same could be said of pollution and corruption.
So FLOYDIANWORLD you are perpetrating injustice on yourself ultimately when you perpetrate it on others of different religions, viewpoints, races, or genders. What goes around, comes around.
Right what we are saying is that corporatocracy and wage based value system (Have you seen Zeiteist Movie) is cause of many social ills such as pollution, war, pornoraphy, prostitution, and so on. Any social advancement based on money alone is devoid of humanity -this is the problem at the heart of the DEATH OF EMPATHY that is the reason for Robert Jensen discussion here. WOMEN AND MEN CAN SEE THE SAME THNGS IF THEY OPEN THEIR EYES, as light says we are not separate. SEPARATION IS AN ILLUSION!
Maybe floyd if you stopped the tyraides and air raid on us all long enough to find out the lay of the land you'd find out that allot of us here are on the same side and have compasion for you and would help you too if we could.
WE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT WE RECOGNIZE A PROBLEM WITH IDENTIFYING OERLY WITH "ISMS, " when are you gonna hear?!!!
You are in your own War, and your own HELL - the rest of us here are trying to help others and with good reason.
Your are delluded and delusional. Everone here is just trying to be nice to you and you create war and bad blood and you are paranoid and telling others what they think, and know, and even saying they are not men or women and calling men eunuchs and such, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU floyd? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? DID SOME WOMEN DO YOU SO WRONG THAT NOW YOU HATE US ALL, I can see why you are here in this room in the universe today too.
You are a woman LightWarrior001 JUST FUCKING ADMIT IT, and give up the fucking charade.
As for the rest of your comment, I already told you I do not believe in false unity. I believe in discussing the facts, reaching the fundamentals of the matter, and if we still don't agree well then SO FUCKING BE IT.
"Dude you have gone all psycho. Who cares, no one here is even claiming to be a feminist and they even triedto let you know that they see your point."
More bullshit phrasing that the one of the other feminist cunts (who registered much longer than just today) exhibited.
IT DOES NOT MATTER whether they self identify as feminist on this forum. They demonstrate key, fundamental feminist tendencies (such as blaming men for everything or indicting Patriarchy or claiming Patriarchy still exists)...
NO YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING! SO you can run away and hide behind an army or rationalizations, and rhetoric that wasn't even valid yesterday let alone today!
THIS TIRED OLD PATRIACHICAL BS YOU FLOYD ARE SPOUTING IS SAME AS TIRED OLD FEMINIST ARGUMENTATION. STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE, your dick must hurt!!! LOL
Right -Floydian when you force someone into a pine box of assumptions and won't let them have any voice of their own and refuse t hear them, you have become completely deaf and one-sided. YOU ARE GUILTY OF ALL YOU ACCUSE OTHERS OF, you cannot lead us or heal us because you are lost too. AND I (a woman) BELIEVE A MAN SHOULD LEAD IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD you stupid fool! You can run, but you cannot hide!
They are not women. They are feminists, who barely qualify as humans.
I am not interested in shit like "making all men look bad". Vapid man-hating feminist cunts (VMFC) have made up their minds and it does not matter what ANY man says.
Their feminist opinions will never change.
Also I will call anyone what I like, and if you don't like that you can go fuck yourself.
The more I read your posts the more I think you're probably the feminist cunt masquerading as a new user.
We are remembering LaraRoxx today, a woman who contracted HIV after only 1 day on the set of porn filming for an xxx film from Darren James. She never made a million dollars, and is now living with HIV, and her only fame is from people who remember the tragedy of her life story.
Women are told and sold that they can make money and get fame working in porno, but in reality its a nightmare for many. Good people everywhere know and are fighting this an fighting for them.
Calling a feminist a cunt is not abuse. They know what they are too.
It's your fault if you want to put up with her cuntism. However don't expect her to come on a public forum and have her weak, sophomoric arguments left unchallenged. I sure as hell won't leave that barely veiled man-hate to stand.
Anyway, we don't know if you are lying.You may well be.Feminists do anything to create false consensus.
Either way your entrance does not make the "anti-porn feminist" argument one iota stronger.
No feminist has a right to accuse others of "hate speech".
A man who has intellectual back bone, a free mind, and testicular fortitude.. That is the very definition of a man.
YOU are the mouse. If indeed you are a man and I suspect you may not be. Some sad man-hating woman could well be behind LightWarrior001, trying to give the bullshit impression that Eunuchs like Jensen are commonly found in the male population.
Milliondollarman747 is an account set up 5 minutes ago by LightWarrior001 (a supposed man) or StopPornSaveLove. Or some other feminist scum watching this discussion. Watching as I beat their sorry intellectually dishonest arses out of the park.
"Joined: January 26, 2009"
They are trying to tip the debate by creating a false consensus.
Sorry fuckers, another feminist debate-rigging tactic uncovered.
Is this what you tell all the women in your life, until they go crazy and doubt themselves constantly?
THIS IS THE REASOn FOR THE ENTIRE PATRIARCHICAL PSYCHOLOGY TREND OF HYSTRIA WHICH INDUCED WOMEN IN THE EARLY 19th Century to think they were all insane! Men/doctors even told them they were isane, so they thought they were and behaved accordingly. But a hytercal DISINVLIDATED woman cannot be there for a man in any way! So you both lose. BE CAREFUL WHO YOU LISTEN TO!
FLOYDIAN You created a lose-lose situation today as well. Your non-successfl ways will end you lonely and dead sooner than later. I suspect you are long without woman's touch. I feel sorry for you, and with your bent no woman should be around you. You have so much hatred. When will it stop?
In other words, don't even bother arguing the points and trying to get to the fundamentals of the matter.
Damn right I am making war. I am making war on feminists because they are the ones responsible for mass porn, and only by going through (confronting) them, can porn be eliminated.
I advocate the banning of pornography and the criminalisation of those involved in producing it, including female performers.
Within a very short time you will have a lot less consumption and production and "trafficking" (women moving about of their own free will to where the work is).
What is so fucking offensive about that, EUNUCH?
Oh is it because I don't bleed my heart out for female porn performers, is that the problem?
Feminists throw out this bullshit "oh you gotta have empathy etc." but really this is just a way of shutting people up from saying things as they are.
Stop trying to suck up to women with your total conformance to feminist thought. You look and sound truly pathetic.
You accuse me of being a abuser, HOW IS THIS YOU EUNUCH LIAR?
1) I call feminists cunts because that is what they ARE. It is a statement of fact.
2) I do not accept the idea that female porn performers are "victims". You call this "blaming or abusing the victim" but because I have a brain I do not accept the paradigm of "women in porn as victims" in the first place!
You are right. Give up your feminists arguments now. You are disseminating base hatred.
"Stop trying to help other men on here, cause you aren't and I am a man who would never associate with you."
You are a feminist and thus hate your masculinity and all men. You blame your masculinity and a non-existent "Patriarchy" for all societies' ills, including mass porn.
I love when femishits pull this card out. No, honest men like me calling things the way they are is only an EXCUSE you use to cover up for your man-hatred.
It's an excuse for something you feel regardless.
Don't you realise, you cunt, your hatred comes from within.
scholars like Robert Jensen discuss how socializing the sensitivity out of men from the time they are children (which occurs now in every major industrialized nation routinely) so they can be "good soldiers" and have a stiff upper lip and all that through experiencing constant humiliation and dehumanization themselves is leading to what they are calling a catastropic and epidemic "death of empathy." I KNOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TO MEN TOO.
Yor arguments go both ways! You are rhetorical and unfair, irrational and unjust. MOSTLY YOU ARE IMBALANCED, and that kind of argumentation is a waste of tme for everyone!
You clearly think that feminity and female expression is a disease.
Why do you lie, why spend you time with a bunch of feminists if you hate us so much!
I suspect one of them scewed you over and left you for a better man. That is a woman's right too. What're gonna do throw acid in her face and rape her?
Your arguments go both ways! You are rhetorical and unfair, irrational and unjust. MOSTLY YOU ARE IMBALANCED, and that kind of argumentation is a waste of tme for everyone!
You clearly think that feminity and female expression is a disease.
Why do you lie, why spend you time with a bunch of feminists if you hate us so much!
I suspect one of them scewed you over and left you for a better man. That is a woman's right too. What're gonna do throw acid in her face and rape her?
I do not want your lies to be the only thing they hear on certain subjects, e.g. pornography.
Also, the entire Political/Media Establishment is Feminist (Feminist Cultural Hegemony) so it is nice to have a forum where feminists can their your ass whooped and shown to be the man-hating liars that they are.
TO ARGUE based on assumption is dangerous foolish and all here will see you as a man they do not want to associate with. AND THAT INCLUDES THE MEN TOO! Obviously!
I do NOT believe they are, but you are acting as if that is what we think is the problem!!! THUS MAKING IT THE PROBLEM! You are creating the problem is what I am saying! You are the problem. AND FEMINISM CONTINUES BECAUSE OF YOU, is that what you want?!!!
BLAMING THE VICTIM IS SOMETHING A SOCIOPATH DOES...
We're not even talking about rape, OKAY? Separate issues here, comprendez? That's part of logical debate, not joining together things that are not connected.
So, as we are NOT discussing rape but discussing PORN instead, the question is, WHO IS THE VICTIM IN PORN?
Because after all, I am supposed to be "blaming the victim".
But let us first determine who the "victim" is.
Is it the woman, who is getting paid very handsomely for doing no work?
If you just accepted the basic premise that porn ties into feminism's sexual anarchism perfectly, then you would understand my point a hell of a lot better.
I don't care about using profanity against a feminist. If they are feminist they are no longer a woman in my book and no longer worthy of an ounce of respect. I call them feminists cunts because that's what they are.
To treat any human being without dignity is foul and poor behavior. WHEN DIGNITY FAILS, SOCIETY FAILS.
What if it is a matriarchy? I wish! Then I wouldnt have to waste my time on you today fighting to be treated justly and fairly and to be heard equally. I didn't call you any foul names, I haven't dehumanized or attempted to humiliated you. But then that is a "maculinity" thing!!! We can all generalize ad stereotype others if we want to! But its very childish and hurftul.
I am not going to discuss them both together. Because I know this is deceit and debate-manipulation.
See, "anti-porn feminism" all roots back to women using porn to generate anti-male arguments to do with porn. Thus making an outlet for their hatred of men.
RAPE = act of coerced sex by a man on a woman; extremely violating to the woman
PORN = a feminist industry that prospers in the Western Matriarchy, something which breaks down the sexual order
You are trying to equate RAPE with PORN. Trying to say that porn is basically men raping women. This is not true. But your employment of these terms and this paradigm only demonstrates your man hate. It only proves what I have determined to be correct about all SO-CALLED "anti-porn feminists".
Fun fact: all Western Feminist societies are saturated with pornography, and no Feminist parliament has ever restricted porn to a substantial level.
PS there is no such thing as "the genders" - this is a fake word the feminists introduced to the vocabulary in the 1970s. When talking about men and women you use "the sexes"
"BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ARGUMENTATION BASED ON ASSUMPION"
This is extremely rich coming from a feminist. Whose movement has simply ASSUMED that porn is oppressive of women (it is not) and we are living in a Patriarchy still (we haven't been since the mid-20th Century).
Don't even fucking start you vapid feminist cunt. You wouldn't know the first thing about coherent argument, fair debate or logic.
Your hate for feminism is going too far, though - its clearlyy an unbalanced view. What happened to you son?
Anyway, If evil liberal women are to blame for all these porn/rape issues as you say, then its still a social problem which both good men and good women want to resolve AND WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
I am calling for equalty of both genders and freedom to persue happiness as is constitutional right. Both sides have warred on each other long enouh. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.
There is a pretty good chance we are now living in a society that is getting very close to racial and gender equaliy for the first time in our history. Yeah Obama!
BLAME GAME IS OVER. We all have to take responsibility and do what we can.
ISMs do nt fight wars, people do. Avoid propadanda and the Manufacturing of Conscent. (Noam CHomsky)
All we are saying is, give peace a chance - but it takes an evolved person and an evolved social structure to make peace possible.
Feminists want Matriarchy and they will stop at nothing to get it. They will not compromise ONE INCH. You say "GIVE PEACE A CHANCE". Feminists are not going to come to the table wanting peace in the first place. They want total absolute control, not peace.
FEMINISM WILL NEVER STOP PORN. Change your username and stop being disingenuous.
I as a right-wing masculinist WILL ban it, but you will NOT.
Because so many men feel that way, I myself avoid using that word and taking up any "isms." I am fighting for men and women and what is right. RAPE AND PORN is not right for families, children, women, or men. Doesn't matter your religion or your politics - all that is just BS, we are human beings not nazi's! That is even true for the Nazi's. Only god can judge a man, other men should avoid judging or castigating others at all costs. Judgement is a great sin, Do not judge another
What would you know about "sin"? You sexually anarchist amoral feminist woman?
Yes judge, BY ALL MEANS. I do not accept this feminist judgement of "don't judge" [which really means, don't make any honest assessments and don't say things as they are].
YES judge. If something is obvious and clear to all; if something is the reality.. SAY IT.
We live in a Matriarchy end of story. No matter how many times you repeat your Patriarchy lie it does not make it true. And those of us who are male and in possession of a free mind can see through your BS instantly.
All those "historians, scholars, etc." academic prostitutes are all serving you and your lies.
It doesn't matter, polarizing the argument this way is the REAL problem. We must strive to avoid hate and we must include all voices. You have a right to your BS opinion. Its a crazy one, kiddo but you have a right to it! BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ARGUMENTATION BASED ON ASSUMPION. I am not a feminist but a self proclaimed MANIST and I love all men! But you would ASS U ME otherwise. See how asuming makes an ASS out of and ME!
Do you have any actual point to make or are you just making vague disruptive remarks about "argumentation".
If some is a feminist in their words and actions, then I will call them feminist. They don't have to self-identify. Their works speak for themselves.
If a woman finds men sexually attractive - i.e. "a manist" as you call it - in *addition* to being feminist... It does not change the fact that they are feminist.
Yes this is all very ZEITGEIST I so hope we all, especially men, wake up to what this is doing to our whole society. When women and children are for sale and raped in the sex trade and men are de-sensitized to this, life becomes very cheap around the globe. END SEX SLAVE, END WAGE SLAVE. CALLANDRESPONSE COM
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I AM NOT FOR SALE, Take NO Porn Pledge at oneangrygirl net "Doing dirt to women and porn is not the way to prove your manhood" Founder Men Against Pornography (MAP)
Read also "Refusing to be a man" By John Stoltenberg for more on Sex, Porn and Conscience, u can Google it
As I watched guys trying to prove their fantasy of manhood by doing dirt to women, making fun of queers, putting down people of other religions and races I realized they were doing something really negative to me too, because their fear and hatred of everything "nonmanly" was killing off something in me that I valued. " Founder of MAP Men Against Pornography
I do not hate men, nor do I consider myself any "ism." I am a human being. Your rhetoric is understandable, but full of hate too. DO you hate women then? I could use the same argument you are using against me in my defense. War games are not the asnwer. Love is the answer. All I am saying is bring me a hgher love and give peace a chance! Now you'll call me a hippy!
I understand that this is hurting men too and that men are its primary targets and victim in many ways. I see that and get that.
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This guy is a self-hating moron, he said " white male supremacist society", wow ! He says that men dominate sex, where the hell he gets that from?? After the women's revolution in the 60's, women are the ones that dominiate sex and want to control men with sex. All these ( pornography,strip clubs) are byproducts of these female freedom to sexploit men.
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Actually, both sides are full of shit. This is all moralistic crap and finger wagging. No physical harm is actually happening, and people are screaming rape. If you think pornography shapes people's minds then you're just simply imitating the McCarthy era right-wing mentality that you lefties so oppose. You can't counter an argument with the same argument with the slippery slope argument.
Mass porn and the sexual revolution was not the resut of "feminism" but corruption. There are many routes to it,but blaming feminists for this is like f'king for virginity! Women have had to fight reppression. THey had to be equals of men, as all creatures wish to not be slaves (ZEITGEIST) and to own their own humanity. I agee that some women have taken it too far and use and abuse men now too, as a response to the years of abuse n tyranny they experienced. But this is a result of patriarchy.
"I agee that some women have taken it too far and use and abuse men now too, as a response to the years of abuse n tyranny they experienced."
Don't give me this "response" shit. That is used by man-hating feminist cunts like you to justify their subjugation of men.. Which they would do ANYWAY even if they were treated perfectly.
See the hate comes from WITHIN - it is not a "response" at all.
Matriarchy institutionalises this feminine tendency towards man-hate.
I've read Robert Jensen's book and found it to be a deeply profound work. This interview with Robert Jensen gives an excellent preview of the themes discussed in the book. (The production values of the video itself are of poor quality, but it is definitely worth watching regardless.)
Only the truth will set us free, but only the free possess the truth. You are far from personal freedom, and full of brainwashed, dogmatic, rhetorical assumptions based on supremacy and hate-mongering. Be careful who you follow, and listen too. ANDIf you are blaming women for all social problems totally, you are another kind of mysoginist and rapist, AND YOU ARE BLAMING THE VICTIM, and that is a dangerous narcissistic approach, a symptom of pathological response.
We live in a patriachy, ask any major scholar, plitician, or historian. you are delluded by the right proganda that still sees women as the enemy. I am not a femiist because I do not see men as the enemy either. STry to stay objective, and avoid hate. Engendering HATE AND WAR between the sexes is not going to help or heal these ills.
All of the "scholars, politicians, historians" you mention are all subservient to Feminist Political Correctness and Feminist Cultural Hegemony.
They are not going to go against the orthodoxy.
The opinion of these professional liars and intellectual cripples means nothing to me. To anyone with a brain we [the West] are a Feminist/Matriarchal society. Socially, culturally, economically. Matriarchy since approx. the 1970s.
You know who looks at porn? Both men and women. Men are not pigs for doing so nor are women who enjoy it sluts .
theraviolicat 1 year ago
porn is cool
stephify 1 year ago
rewatching this years later...still soooo goood
digitalkath 1 year ago
porn is good for you. porn is good for women, too. All hail sexual liberation!
K2nsl3r 2 years ago
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stopporn, women have more rights than men in the West, you feminazi bitch. This is the 21st century,not the 19th century, so stop bitching and whining. This is just a misandrist thrash from a mangina? What proof do you have that the vast majority of porn is a dick shoving down a woman's throat and calling her a bitch?? have you seen every video that has come out and count them one by one? or that is just your feminazi imaginiation?
nabu2k7 2 years ago
Nabku- you need to educate yourself, seriously, it is obvious from your writing and expression that you are challenged intellectually and limited in your critique of any culture. Your purpose is obviously to insult and cause offense. You clearly have huge personal issues that need to be taken care of. Your comments are laughably simple and juvenile in the extreme. Good luck with growing into someone more substantial
saba505 2 years ago
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saba,What bothers you and other people is that I have my own mind and I refuse to be indoctrinated by the likes of Jensen. I've read many of his atrocious writings,I've read Andrea Dworkin too,apparently his mentor, a woman that needed psychiatric help. I'm considered myself raeasonable person. I support pro-choice in abortion for women,I support same-sex marriage.I'm all about having choice, what I don't support is clowns like this guy trying,deciding for himself what is really"a choice".
nabu2k7 2 years ago
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nabu2k7 2 years ago
God, I would love for younger men to take up this baton. It would do wonders for my heart.
SarahLeeAnn 2 years ago 13
no way
i love my porn
matchbox555 2 years ago
@SarahLeeAnn I AM I AM i read " Gendered Outcasts and Sexual Outlaws " and it has had radical impact on me, as a gay man.
tyronelasersynth 2 months ago
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what a girl
Darklordabc 3 years ago
There is a book about feminism gone wrong, (not that all feminism is like this as that insane supremicist Floyd is saying), called FEMALE CHAUVINIST PIGS by Ariel Levy. Some of us know that some women are using their hard won sexual freedoms to know turn the ables on men and use and manipulate them with sex as well. Real women and feminists recognize that exploitation on either side is wrong and that this is a fight for equality for all races, genders, orientations, religions, and so on...
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago 10
Google Ariel Levy for more....
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago 2
Please note: I wll have no dialog with the abuser who calls foul names and uses profanity to bully and attack others.
HATE IS NOT THe ANSWER. HATE SPEECH is for abusers. ABUSERS MUST NOT BE TOLERATED.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago 5
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There can be no human rights until there are women's rights. It's clear from the behavior of some men, that we still have a long way to go. Women have to fight this kind of oppresion and we will NOT be bullied into submissin or silence by little men who use profanity, gaslighting, mental insanity, violence, or pornography or sex, to control women in any way. IF YOUHAVE TO RESORT MANIPULATION OR VIOLENCE TO CONTROL OTHERS you are a tyrant, and mentally ill.
Woman-hating is for losers.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
There can be no human rights until there are women's rights. It's clear from the behavior of some men, that we still have a long way to go. Women have to fight this kind of oppresion and we will NOT be bullied into submissin or silence by little men who use profanity, gaslighting, mental insanity, violence, or pornography or sex, to control women in any way. IF YOUHAVE TO RESORT MANIPULATION OR VIOLENCE TO CONTROL OTHERS you are a tyrant, and mentally ill.
Woman-hating is for losers.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago 3
There can be no human rights until there are womn's rights. Its clear from the behavior of some men, that we still have a long way to go. Women have to fight this kind of oppresion and w will no be bullied into submissin or silence by little men.
Woman-hating is for losers.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago 2
There can be no human rights until there are womn's rights Is clear fro the behavior of some men that we still have a long fight ahead. Bring it on!
Woman-haing is for losers.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
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women suck
matchbox555 2 years ago
@matchbox555 no they dont, they suck dicks
stephify 1 year ago
"Injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice EVERYWHERE" MLK
MLK was pro-Establishment and full of shit.
But taking the above statement true, then it is necessary to suffocate the feminist movement as they are causing great injustice to the World.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"Injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice anywhere." - MLK
The same could be said of pollution and corruption.
So FLOYDIANWORLD you are perpetrating injustice on yourself ultimately when you perpetrate it on others of different religions, viewpoints, races, or genders. What goes around, comes around.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
"Injustice anywhere, is a threat to justice EVERYWHERE" MLK
sorry for mistype - busy doing two things at once like all women hae to do!
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
All I have ever called a feminist woman like you is a CUNT.
But why is it you must constantly falsely accuse me of things I am not?
Because you are afraid of debate.
You know your arguments are a big fat NOTHING and you will lose in 5 milliseconds.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Right what we are saying is that corporatocracy and wage based value system (Have you seen Zeiteist Movie) is cause of many social ills such as pollution, war, pornoraphy, prostitution, and so on. Any social advancement based on money alone is devoid of humanity -this is the problem at the heart of the DEATH OF EMPATHY that is the reason for Robert Jensen discussion here. WOMEN AND MEN CAN SEE THE SAME THNGS IF THEY OPEN THEIR EYES, as light says we are not separate. SEPARATION IS AN ILLUSION!
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
Maybe floyd if you stopped the tyraides and air raid on us all long enough to find out the lay of the land you'd find out that allot of us here are on the same side and have compasion for you and would help you too if we could.
WE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT WE RECOGNIZE A PROBLEM WITH IDENTIFYING OERLY WITH "ISMS, " when are you gonna hear?!!!
You are in your own War, and your own HELL - the rest of us here are trying to help others and with good reason.
WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Angewings4all 3 years ago
If you are only here to spew hate, you aren't helping anyone and least of all yourself.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
And you have to continue this mantra... Why?
Because you are afraid of discussing the issues.
Because you know I am right and I will not accept any of your false paradigms.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Your are delluded and delusional. Everone here is just trying to be nice to you and you create war and bad blood and you are paranoid and telling others what they think, and know, and even saying they are not men or women and calling men eunuchs and such, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU floyd? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? DID SOME WOMEN DO YOU SO WRONG THAT NOW YOU HATE US ALL, I can see why you are here in this room in the universe today too.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
"disinvalidate"
Your female mind is churning out verbal vomit.
floydianworld 3 years ago
WHy do you hate a "female" mind?
Why do you so hate women?
Angewings4all 3 years ago
Your simple supposition that Patriarchy "still exists" does not mean that Patriarchy ACTUALLY exists.
There is a difference between your polluted, illogical brain and the real world.
floydianworld 3 years ago
You are a woman LightWarrior001 JUST FUCKING ADMIT IT, and give up the fucking charade.
As for the rest of your comment, I already told you I do not believe in false unity. I believe in discussing the facts, reaching the fundamentals of the matter, and if we still don't agree well then SO FUCKING BE IT.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"Dude you have gone all psycho. Who cares, no one here is even claiming to be a feminist and they even triedto let you know that they see your point."
More bullshit phrasing that the one of the other feminist cunts (who registered much longer than just today) exhibited.
IT DOES NOT MATTER whether they self identify as feminist on this forum. They demonstrate key, fundamental feminist tendencies (such as blaming men for everything or indicting Patriarchy or claiming Patriarchy still exists)...
floydianworld 3 years ago
... That makes them feminists.. I will call them out on it without hesitation.
As I said already, remember what the Patriarchal Bible said.. Judge them by their work.
And I know feminists just HATE the word judge (and yes, I will judge also if I have reason to).. But the Bible means that in the sense of:
The character of the person is shown by their actions.
Everything must be spelt out to feminists because they have the bare minimum of brain cells and have zero logic.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"This is not a competition, and its not a war. We are here to come together"
Same bullshit phrasing as the other feminist cunt.
No we are not here to come together and pretend we agree when we do not.
We are here to get to the fundamentals, to get to the truth of the matter.
floydianworld 3 years ago
And YOU assume that pornography is Patriarchal, harms women disproportionately compared to men, and is abuse by men against women.
Why don't you stop being such a blatant hypocrite for five seconds.
floydianworld 3 years ago
NO YOU ARE ASSUMING THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SAYING! SO you can run away and hide behind an army or rationalizations, and rhetoric that wasn't even valid yesterday let alone today!
THIS TIRED OLD PATRIACHICAL BS YOU FLOYD ARE SPOUTING IS SAME AS TIRED OLD FEMINIST ARGUMENTATION. STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE, your dick must hurt!!! LOL
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
Right -Floydian when you force someone into a pine box of assumptions and won't let them have any voice of their own and refuse t hear them, you have become completely deaf and one-sided. YOU ARE GUILTY OF ALL YOU ACCUSE OTHERS OF, you cannot lead us or heal us because you are lost too. AND I (a woman) BELIEVE A MAN SHOULD LEAD IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD you stupid fool! You can run, but you cannot hide!
Angewings4all 3 years ago
Good riddance, you contribute nothing to the debate.
You exhibit the terrible feminist trait of FALSE ACCUSATION.
floydianworld 3 years ago
They are not women. They are feminists, who barely qualify as humans.
I am not interested in shit like "making all men look bad". Vapid man-hating feminist cunts (VMFC) have made up their minds and it does not matter what ANY man says.
Their feminist opinions will never change.
Also I will call anyone what I like, and if you don't like that you can go fuck yourself.
The more I read your posts the more I think you're probably the feminist cunt masquerading as a new user.
floydianworld 3 years ago
PS: I looked on Lara Roxx's Wikipedia page. Looks like even she does not condemn the feminist porno business.
YOU LOSE. YET AGAIN.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Which ever of your feminist cunts SUPPOSEDLY PM'd milliondollarman and told him to come on:
If your arguments were strong enough, you would not need to call in reinforcements, and you would not accuse me wrongly of "abuse".
The only "abuse" I am giving you is beating your fragile, dearly-held feminist arguments and paradigms into the ground.
Hard to let all that weak femmie bullshit go isn't it?
floydianworld 3 years ago
We are remembering LaraRoxx today, a woman who contracted HIV after only 1 day on the set of porn filming for an xxx film from Darren James. She never made a million dollars, and is now living with HIV, and her only fame is from people who remember the tragedy of her life story.
Women are told and sold that they can make money and get fame working in porno, but in reality its a nightmare for many. Good people everywhere know and are fighting this an fighting for them.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
We also remember the men in this too, like Darren James mentioned above and all those he took with him into HIV positive hell.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
I ARGUE FOR BANNINNG of all porn and criminalisation of all involved in the production of it.
LaraRoxx should not have gotten involved in the feminist porno business and try to make a quick buck out of exploiting sexual desire.
100,000 women at least work in the business. Only a tiny proportion get serious STDs such as HIV. THAT is the reality.
Under my proposal of material ban and producer criminalisation, there would be NO NEED to worry about HIV infection in the porno biz.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Because there would be no substantial or legitimate porno biz.
A $13bn a year feminist industry would drop to $0.
floydianworld 3 years ago
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floydianworld 3 years ago
"You are abusing my GF dude, and that is not cool with me or any other men here."
Who are you to "speak for all men", eh milliondollarman.
There are quite a lot of men who see right through feminist BS, especially on YouTube, and have no problem telling them where to get off.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Calling a feminist a cunt is not abuse. They know what they are too.
It's your fault if you want to put up with her cuntism. However don't expect her to come on a public forum and have her weak, sophomoric arguments left unchallenged. I sure as hell won't leave that barely veiled man-hate to stand.
Anyway, we don't know if you are lying.You may well be.Feminists do anything to create false consensus.
Either way your entrance does not make the "anti-porn feminist" argument one iota stronger.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Calling others foul names just shows us all who YOU are.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
Oh your girlfriend is contributing to the truly pathetically low level of discussion here??
Either way, whether a feminist set up the account, or whether you are actually connected to some feminist cunt ranting here; it's all the one.
Your presence is one which has no authority.
floydianworld 3 years ago
So are you! You can't accuse others of what you yourself are guilty of!!!
!LOL floydianworld you are PARANOID, hysterical, irrational, and imbalanced!!!
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
No feminist has a right to accuse others of "hate speech".
A man who has intellectual back bone, a free mind, and testicular fortitude.. That is the very definition of a man.
YOU are the mouse. If indeed you are a man and I suspect you may not be. Some sad man-hating woman could well be behind LightWarrior001, trying to give the bullshit impression that Eunuchs like Jensen are commonly found in the male population.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"Make love not war! I agree Rosered!"
I do not believe in false unity and making friendship with those who have singled men out as an enemy and who will not compromise.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Milliondollarman747 is an account set up 5 minutes ago by LightWarrior001 (a supposed man) or StopPornSaveLove. Or some other feminist scum watching this discussion. Watching as I beat their sorry intellectually dishonest arses out of the park.
"Joined: January 26, 2009"
They are trying to tip the debate by creating a false consensus.
Sorry fuckers, another feminist debate-rigging tactic uncovered.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Feminists are not women, not in my book.
They scarcely even qualify as human.
Calling a feminist a piece of shit is simply that: calling a feminist a piece of shit.
We have established that you are a Eunuch emasculated wimp; please shut up with the constant "AS A MAN" "DID I TELL YOU I AM A MAN".
floydianworld 3 years ago
You have only debate your inability to discuss the issues in a coherent, logical fashion, Rosered.
You've demonstrated just how weak "anti-porn feminism" really is.
You are impressing no-one, and you are fooling no-one.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Is this what you tell all the women in your life, until they go crazy and doubt themselves constantly?
THIS IS THE REASOn FOR THE ENTIRE PATRIARCHICAL PSYCHOLOGY TREND OF HYSTRIA WHICH INDUCED WOMEN IN THE EARLY 19th Century to think they were all insane! Men/doctors even told them they were isane, so they thought they were and behaved accordingly. But a hytercal DISINVLIDATED woman cannot be there for a man in any way! So you both lose. BE CAREFUL WHO YOU LISTEN TO!
Wiki GASLIGHTING
Angewings4all 3 years ago
FLOYDIAN You created a lose-lose situation today as well. Your non-successfl ways will end you lonely and dead sooner than later. I suspect you are long without woman's touch. I feel sorry for you, and with your bent no woman should be around you. You have so much hatred. When will it stop?
YOU ARE NOT THE VICTIM HERE!
Angewings4all 3 years ago
"YOU ARE MAKING WAR TODAY.
Make love not war!!"
In other words, don't even bother arguing the points and trying to get to the fundamentals of the matter.
Damn right I am making war. I am making war on feminists because they are the ones responsible for mass porn, and only by going through (confronting) them, can porn be eliminated.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Unlike you, I do not advocate unity when there is none to begin with. I do not advocate "imaginary unity".
floydianworld 3 years ago
I advocate the banning of pornography and the criminalisation of those involved in producing it, including female performers.
Within a very short time you will have a lot less consumption and production and "trafficking" (women moving about of their own free will to where the work is).
What is so fucking offensive about that, EUNUCH?
Oh is it because I don't bleed my heart out for female porn performers, is that the problem?
floydianworld 3 years ago
"that she hates rapacious pornography"
Well then why does she not WANT TO GET RID OF IT!?
Why does she not root the mass porn we have today to the sexual anarchism of the feminist movement?
That the only way to eliminate porn is to give up our culture's 100% accepting attitude towards whatever feminists say/want.
floydianworld 3 years ago
She doesn't hate porn she hates men.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Feminists throw out this bullshit "oh you gotta have empathy etc." but really this is just a way of shutting people up from saying things as they are.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Stop trying to suck up to women with your total conformance to feminist thought. You look and sound truly pathetic.
You accuse me of being a abuser, HOW IS THIS YOU EUNUCH LIAR?
1) I call feminists cunts because that is what they ARE. It is a statement of fact.
2) I do not accept the idea that female porn performers are "victims". You call this "blaming or abusing the victim" but because I have a brain I do not accept the paradigm of "women in porn as victims" in the first place!
floydianworld 3 years ago
"HATRED IS NOT AN ARGUMENT."
You are right. Give up your feminists arguments now. You are disseminating base hatred.
"Stop trying to help other men on here, cause you aren't and I am a man who would never associate with you."
You are a feminist and thus hate your masculinity and all men. You blame your masculinity and a non-existent "Patriarchy" for all societies' ills, including mass porn.
floydianworld 3 years ago
It is unfortunate what has happened to your logical faculties and recognition of yourself as a man.
But you are a feminist now so FUCK YOU.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Robert Jensen is not a "scholar". He is a 1970s throwback, an emasculated wimp and a wholesale liar.
A Eunuch with no back bone and no original ideas.
Jensen, like all feminists male or female, misrepresents the NATURE of how things are and prescribes inappropriate ineffective solutions.
floydianworld 3 years ago
No feminist on the face on the Earth has the right to accuse others of "hate speech".
The very core of feminism is based on hate speech and hateful intent; without this core of hate feminism is nothing. It falls apart without its fuel.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"YOU ARE THE REASON FOR FEMINISM!!!!!!!!!!!LOL!"
I love when femishits pull this card out. No, honest men like me calling things the way they are is only an EXCUSE you use to cover up for your man-hatred.
It's an excuse for something you feel regardless.
Don't you realise, you cunt, your hatred comes from within.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Femininity is not a disease. Feminism is.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Masculinity is not a disease. Mysogyny is.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
"The denigration of the feminine principle is the reason the earth is in the condition that it is in." Tunda Asega, African Spiritualist.
THE POLAR ICE CAPS ARE MELTING, there is no time for hatred.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
scholars like Robert Jensen discuss how socializing the sensitivity out of men from the time they are children (which occurs now in every major industrialized nation routinely) so they can be "good soldiers" and have a stiff upper lip and all that through experiencing constant humiliation and dehumanization themselves is leading to what they are calling a catastropic and epidemic "death of empathy." I KNOW THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TO MEN TOO.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
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floydianworld 3 years ago
You are lying and your are being disingenuous.
You clearly think that masculinity, and male expression, is a disease.
Why lie? I mean, why bother?
floydianworld 3 years ago
Yor arguments go both ways! You are rhetorical and unfair, irrational and unjust. MOSTLY YOU ARE IMBALANCED, and that kind of argumentation is a waste of tme for everyone!
You clearly think that feminity and female expression is a disease.
Why do you lie, why spend you time with a bunch of feminists if you hate us so much!
I suspect one of them scewed you over and left you for a better man. That is a woman's right too. What're gonna do throw acid in her face and rape her?
Angewings4all 3 years ago
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Your arguments go both ways! You are rhetorical and unfair, irrational and unjust. MOSTLY YOU ARE IMBALANCED, and that kind of argumentation is a waste of tme for everyone!
You clearly think that feminity and female expression is a disease.
Why do you lie, why spend you time with a bunch of feminists if you hate us so much!
I suspect one of them scewed you over and left you for a better man. That is a woman's right too. What're gonna do throw acid in her face and rape her?
Angewings4all 3 years ago
My arguments do not go both ways at all.
What the fuck does that even mean "my arguments go both ways".
I argue my points from a central thesis that feminism and porn are intrinsically connected via sexual anarchism, and it all spawns out from there.
When feminists start losing the argument they reach new emotionalism, totally irrational lows. And that is where you are going now.
I confront you Angewings and cunts like you online because I want men who read this page to understand the TRUTH
floydianworld 3 years ago
I do not want your lies to be the only thing they hear on certain subjects, e.g. pornography.
Also, the entire Political/Media Establishment is Feminist (Feminist Cultural Hegemony) so it is nice to have a forum where feminists can their your ass whooped and shown to be the man-hating liars that they are.
floydianworld 3 years ago
TO HATE WITHOUT REASON, i sick.
TO ARGUE based on assumption is dangerous foolish and all here will see you as a man they do not want to associate with. AND THAT INCLUDES THE MEN TOO! Obviously!
Angewings4all 3 years ago
"TO HATE WITHOUT REASON, i sick."
You do hate without reason, and yes, you are sick.
YOU argue on the unproven and highly dubious ASSUMPTION that women are the victims in the porn trade. Hypocrite LIAR like all feminists.
floydianworld 3 years ago
AND YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT you too are sick.
You are the one arguing that men are victims of the porn trade BUT I AM AGREEING WITH YOU fool!
You are blinded by rationalizations.YOU ARE DEAF AND BLIND. and you are wrong too.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
Listen up you FEMINIST CUNT.
It is YOUR rationalizations which are full of shit. You are NOT agreeing with me, we are in complete disagreement.
You think that if men are victims of the porn industry, it is men's fault ultimately because porn is a Patriarchal industry of female oppression.
I'm sorry I don't agree with any of this 1970s hogwash.
I argue that porn is a feminist industry resultant of a sexually anarchist feminist culture.
floydianworld 3 years ago
There is no solving porn without going through (i.e. confronting) the feminist movement.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Is rape a masculine expression? Is porn?
I do NOT believe they are, but you are acting as if that is what we think is the problem!!! THUS MAKING IT THE PROBLEM! You are creating the problem is what I am saying! You are the problem. AND FEMINISM CONTINUES BECAUSE OF YOU, is that what you want?!!!
BLAMING THE VICTIM IS SOMETHING A SOCIOPATH DOES...
Angewings4all 3 years ago
We're not even talking about rape, OKAY? Separate issues here, comprendez? That's part of logical debate, not joining together things that are not connected.
So, as we are NOT discussing rape but discussing PORN instead, the question is, WHO IS THE VICTIM IN PORN?
Because after all, I am supposed to be "blaming the victim".
But let us first determine who the "victim" is.
Is it the woman, who is getting paid very handsomely for doing no work?
floydianworld 3 years ago
Who is doing whore work out of choice and enjoyment?
She's the victim? No fucking way. She's a paid performer who is exploiting male sexual desire to make herself rich.
The victim, if anyone, is the man whose sexual desire is being exploited by this feminist industry.
floydianworld 3 years ago
If you just accepted the basic premise that porn ties into feminism's sexual anarchism perfectly, then you would understand my point a hell of a lot better.
I don't care about using profanity against a feminist. If they are feminist they are no longer a woman in my book and no longer worthy of an ounce of respect. I call them feminists cunts because that's what they are.
It's a descriptor.
floydianworld 3 years ago
To treat any human being without dignity is foul and poor behavior. WHEN DIGNITY FAILS, SOCIETY FAILS.
What if it is a matriarchy? I wish! Then I wouldnt have to waste my time on you today fighting to be treated justly and fairly and to be heard equally. I didn't call you any foul names, I haven't dehumanized or attempted to humiliated you. But then that is a "maculinity" thing!!! We can all generalize ad stereotype others if we want to! But its very childish and hurftul.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
"What if it is a matriarchy? I wish!"
I already told you WE ALREADY LIVE IN A MATRIARCHAL SOCIETY. Give up the stupid rhetoric. You have your "wish".
Not only would you not have mass porn in a Patriarchal society, but you would have an ameliorated romantic culture also.
Why do you continue to argue? Because you hate men and want to go around blaming them for everything REGARDLESS.
floydianworld 3 years ago
I will employ generalisations where generalisations are valid.
One should not be afraid of such things.
floydianworld 3 years ago
She didn't make a SINGLE good point.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"RAPE AND PORN is not right for families"
You are joining two SEPARATE issues. Rape and PORN as if they are intrinsically connected. This is typical skewed feminist debate.
Designed to go FUCKING NOWHERE and reached bad conclusions.
Well guess what, I'm not accepting your "RAPE-PORN" hybrid paradigm.
If you want to discuss rape, FINE. Do it on a video to do with rape. But here we are discussing pornography.
floydianworld 3 years ago
And you have the nerve to talk about "proper argumentation".
Fucking disingenous feminist cunt.
floydianworld 3 years ago
I am not going to discuss them both together. Because I know this is deceit and debate-manipulation.
See, "anti-porn feminism" all roots back to women using porn to generate anti-male arguments to do with porn. Thus making an outlet for their hatred of men.
RAPE = act of coerced sex by a man on a woman; extremely violating to the woman
PORN = a feminist industry that prospers in the Western Matriarchy, something which breaks down the sexual order
floydianworld 3 years ago
You are trying to equate RAPE with PORN. Trying to say that porn is basically men raping women. This is not true. But your employment of these terms and this paradigm only demonstrates your man hate. It only proves what I have determined to be correct about all SO-CALLED "anti-porn feminists".
floydianworld 3 years ago
Fun fact: all Western Feminist societies are saturated with pornography, and no Feminist parliament has ever restricted porn to a substantial level.
PS there is no such thing as "the genders" - this is a fake word the feminists introduced to the vocabulary in the 1970s. When talking about men and women you use "the sexes"
floydianworld 3 years ago
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floydianworld 3 years ago
"BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ARGUMENTATION BASED ON ASSUMPION"
This is extremely rich coming from a feminist. Whose movement has simply ASSUMED that porn is oppressive of women (it is not) and we are living in a Patriarchy still (we haven't been since the mid-20th Century).
Don't even fucking start you vapid feminist cunt. You wouldn't know the first thing about coherent argument, fair debate or logic.
Your ilk never did, and never will.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Exactly, hate is not the answer. You better give up that feminist crap that's become embedded in your worldview, pronto.
floydianworld 3 years ago
I don't care whether you are male or female.
If you are a feminist, male OR female, this means you hate men and want to establish Matriarchal society. You are my enemy.
As a male feminist, you are pathetic and self-hating in addition to the above characteristics.
Masculinity is not a disease, no matter what Matriarchy-pushing man-hating feminist cunts say.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"FEMINISM has been politically made into a mess, though, so no one who claims to be one is the same as any other anyway! "
Obfuscation. Blaming "political feminism", saying that feminism was somehow "corrupted" by the "process".
YOU LIE!
All feminism is the same, there are no meaningful distinct subvisions, and it is a monolith.
It is monolithically pro-Matriarchy and man-hating.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Your hate for feminism is going too far, though - its clearlyy an unbalanced view. What happened to you son?
Anyway, If evil liberal women are to blame for all these porn/rape issues as you say, then its still a social problem which both good men and good women want to resolve AND WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
I am calling for equalty of both genders and freedom to persue happiness as is constitutional right. Both sides have warred on each other long enouh. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
There is a pretty good chance we are now living in a society that is getting very close to racial and gender equaliy for the first time in our history. Yeah Obama!
BLAME GAME IS OVER. We all have to take responsibility and do what we can.
ISMs do nt fight wars, people do. Avoid propadanda and the Manufacturing of Conscent. (Noam CHomsky)
All we are saying is, give peace a chance - but it takes an evolved person and an evolved social structure to make peace possible.
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
"What happened to you son?"
Give up the Matronising language.
"If evil liberal women are to blame for all these porn/rape issues"
Porn and rape are two ENTIRELY separate issues. Don't join them.
"WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER."
We cannot work together because we are polls apart. Anti-feminist ideals vs. feminist ideals could not be more opposed.
floydianworld 3 years ago
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Feminists want Matriarchy and they will stop at nothing to get it. They will not compromise ONE INCH. You say "GIVE PEACE A CHANCE". Feminists are not going to come to the table wanting peace in the first place. They want total absolute control, not peace.
FEMINISM WILL NEVER STOP PORN. Change your username and stop being disingenuous.
I as a right-wing masculinist WILL ban it, but you will NOT.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Because so many men feel that way, I myself avoid using that word and taking up any "isms." I am fighting for men and women and what is right. RAPE AND PORN is not right for families, children, women, or men. Doesn't matter your religion or your politics - all that is just BS, we are human beings not nazi's! That is even true for the Nazi's. Only god can judge a man, other men should avoid judging or castigating others at all costs. Judgement is a great sin, Do not judge another
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
"Judgement is a great sin, Do not judge another"
What would you know about "sin"? You sexually anarchist amoral feminist woman?
Yes judge, BY ALL MEANS. I do not accept this feminist judgement of "don't judge" [which really means, don't make any honest assessments and don't say things as they are].
YES judge. If something is obvious and clear to all; if something is the reality.. SAY IT.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Her opinions and objectives are feminist, therefore she is feminist. I do not care what she "self-identifies" as online.
Judge them by their deeds, as the Patriarchal Bible which you so hate says.
floydianworld 3 years ago
We live in a Matriarchy end of story. No matter how many times you repeat your Patriarchy lie it does not make it true. And those of us who are male and in possession of a free mind can see through your BS instantly.
All those "historians, scholars, etc." academic prostitutes are all serving you and your lies.
floydianworld 3 years ago
It doesn't matter, polarizing the argument this way is the REAL problem. We must strive to avoid hate and we must include all voices. You have a right to your BS opinion. Its a crazy one, kiddo but you have a right to it! BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ARGUMENTATION BASED ON ASSUMPION. I am not a feminist but a self proclaimed MANIST and I love all men! But you would ASS U ME otherwise. See how asuming makes an ASS out of and ME!
StopPornSaveLove 3 years ago
Do you have any actual point to make or are you just making vague disruptive remarks about "argumentation".
If some is a feminist in their words and actions, then I will call them feminist. They don't have to self-identify. Their works speak for themselves.
If a woman finds men sexually attractive - i.e. "a manist" as you call it - in *addition* to being feminist... It does not change the fact that they are feminist.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Yes this is all very ZEITGEIST I so hope we all, especially men, wake up to what this is doing to our whole society. When women and children are for sale and raped in the sex trade and men are de-sensitized to this, life becomes very cheap around the globe. END SEX SLAVE, END WAGE SLAVE. CALLANDRESPONSE COM
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I AM NOT FOR SALE, Take NO Porn Pledge at oneangrygirl net "Doing dirt to women and porn is not the way to prove your manhood" Founder Men Against Pornography (MAP)
Angewings4all 3 years ago
Read also "Refusing to be a man" By John Stoltenberg for more on Sex, Porn and Conscience, u can Google it
As I watched guys trying to prove their fantasy of manhood by doing dirt to women, making fun of queers, putting down people of other religions and races I realized they were doing something really negative to me too, because their fear and hatred of everything "nonmanly" was killing off something in me that I valued. " Founder of MAP Men Against Pornography
Angewings4all 3 years ago
Listen you hate men, okay, we know. Get over it okay.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Old arguments. Tired feminist analyses. Not only do your arguments not make any sense - but they are not even in any way impressive any more.
"All very ZEITGEIST" - what the fuck does that mean.
How about:
"Whoring yourself to the world on the Internet exploiting men's sexual desire is not the way to prove your womanhood"
floydianworld 3 years ago
I do not hate men, nor do I consider myself any "ism." I am a human being. Your rhetoric is understandable, but full of hate too. DO you hate women then? I could use the same argument you are using against me in my defense. War games are not the asnwer. Love is the answer. All I am saying is bring me a hgher love and give peace a chance! Now you'll call me a hippy!
I understand that this is hurting men too and that men are its primary targets and victim in many ways. I see that and get that.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
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This guy is a self-hating moron, he said " white male supremacist society", wow ! He says that men dominate sex, where the hell he gets that from?? After the women's revolution in the 60's, women are the ones that dominiate sex and want to control men with sex. All these ( pornography,strip clubs) are byproducts of these female freedom to sexploit men.
nabu2k7 4 years ago
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Actually, both sides are full of shit. This is all moralistic crap and finger wagging. No physical harm is actually happening, and people are screaming rape. If you think pornography shapes people's minds then you're just simply imitating the McCarthy era right-wing mentality that you lefties so oppose. You can't counter an argument with the same argument with the slippery slope argument.
evelsteev 3 years ago
Absolutely 100% correct. Well done. Feminists won't like it though - the truth is like caustic soda to them.
Mass porn and the other "sex" industries prostitution and stripping are all a result of the feminist/sexual anarchist revolution.
"All these are byproducts of these female freedom tosexploit men."
"Anti-porn feminism" is controlled opposition to prevent this message getting out.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Mass porn and the sexual revolution was not the resut of "feminism" but corruption. There are many routes to it,but blaming feminists for this is like f'king for virginity! Women have had to fight reppression. THey had to be equals of men, as all creatures wish to not be slaves (ZEITGEIST) and to own their own humanity. I agee that some women have taken it too far and use and abuse men now too, as a response to the years of abuse n tyranny they experienced. But this is a result of patriarchy.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
"I agee that some women have taken it too far and use and abuse men now too, as a response to the years of abuse n tyranny they experienced."
Don't give me this "response" shit. That is used by man-hating feminist cunts like you to justify their subjugation of men.. Which they would do ANYWAY even if they were treated perfectly.
See the hate comes from WITHIN - it is not a "response" at all.
Matriarchy institutionalises this feminine tendency towards man-hate.
floydianworld 3 years ago
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SingleGirlzdq10 4 years ago
I've read Robert Jensen's book and found it to be a deeply profound work. This interview with Robert Jensen gives an excellent preview of the themes discussed in the book. (The production values of the video itself are of poor quality, but it is definitely worth watching regardless.)
sgsilver 4 years ago 8
its good to hear a man speaking out against pornography.
digitalkath 4 years ago 8
Men are naturally opposed to pornography as they are not sexual anarchists.
It is because we live in a Feminist/Matriarchal society that porn is not banned.
floydianworld 3 years ago
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digitalkath 3 years ago
Yes. I am here to speak the truth.
floydianworld 3 years ago
Only the truth will set us free, but only the free possess the truth. You are far from personal freedom, and full of brainwashed, dogmatic, rhetorical assumptions based on supremacy and hate-mongering. Be careful who you follow, and listen too. ANDIf you are blaming women for all social problems totally, you are another kind of mysoginist and rapist, AND YOU ARE BLAMING THE VICTIM, and that is a dangerous narcissistic approach, a symptom of pathological response.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
We live in a patriachy, ask any major scholar, plitician, or historian. you are delluded by the right proganda that still sees women as the enemy. I am not a femiist because I do not see men as the enemy either. STry to stay objective, and avoid hate. Engendering HATE AND WAR between the sexes is not going to help or heal these ills.
Angewings4all 3 years ago
We live in a Matriarchal society.
All of the "scholars, politicians, historians" you mention are all subservient to Feminist Political Correctness and Feminist Cultural Hegemony.
They are not going to go against the orthodoxy.
The opinion of these professional liars and intellectual cripples means nothing to me. To anyone with a brain we [the West] are a Feminist/Matriarchal society. Socially, culturally, economically. Matriarchy since approx. the 1970s.
floydianworld 3 years ago
"Engendering HATE AND WAR between the sexes is not going to help or heal these ills."
Better give up that feminist stuff that you're so interested in then.
As regards your quarter-baked theories on porn being the "result of patriarchy".. Well this is totally groundless, lazy bullshit.
Feminism is sexual anarchism. Porn is sexually anarchistic. It's a match made in heaven.
Since the 1960s when the West started to transition to Matriarchy, the saturation of pornography in our culture ...
floydianworld 3 years ago
... has always corresponded to how Feminist/Matriarchy the society as a whole was.
This is no coincidence.
In other words, the more Feminist/Matriarchal a society becomes, the more porn there will be.
floydianworld 3 years ago