As I read through some of the comments, I see how foolish and uneducated some people are when it comes to Aikido. A demonstration is simply showing the observer the possibilities of Aikido. A well trained student of Aikido knows that you will only do whats necessary to survive and get out of a dangerous situation in one piece. , if used effectively the results can be devastating to the attacker. not about blocks, your suppose to use the attackers momentum, and energy against themselves
Jujitsu?MMA? is that two arts can handle a 4 to 5 people to take down? how about they used weapon?they used hard thing? am i rolling on the ground to arm lock a 1 guy? the most effective is Combat Judo, and Aikido in real fights.
any martial arts are applicable with timing and depends on the situation.. when you say street fighting.. there is no rules,, when you apply aikido in street fights it is very dangerous,, you know why? because a real aikido you never know he/she is an aikido. ok mma? why not they not use aikido in UFC? because that is very fatal..can kill you or break your arms or neck in just seconds. of course when you are fighting with bigger guys you are really in trouble,,in street fights aikido use sword
Street fight most of the times relies on anger and adrenaline moving and attacking with what comes to mind which isn't good because at that point you have no control and can't think clearly. Not many people have a plan when they fight just to try and knock out or kill the other person. With any style they have a plan unless someone has trained just to harm, then most of the times if they get hit they stop thinking clearly and are just like the fighter they are fighting. Easy to take down.
@TheBrunozxc say that when i put a wrist lock on you and you go down to your knees, if you dont go your wrist will simply break, stupid person, do your research before you mock Aikido, all you've seen is DEMONSTRATIONS do you understand what that word means eh? fucking moron how wrong you are, your loss pal.
@TheBrunozxc thats the thing though, you think i cant block against punches? how silly are you, my goal is to block the punches, maybe throw some myself, but the main aim is to get into grappling then try and grab a wrist, an arm, whatever, your really stupid if you think im just gonna stand there blatantly going for his wrist whilst he punches me with the other hands, when he throws his punches, ill block, but keep hold of his arms, its really easy to apply a wrist lock and most dont expect it
@TheBrunozxc yes but in a street fight anything goes, im not gonna stand there trynna wait for them to punch me, id use aikido mixed with street fighting
If you see a dude trying to "aikido" someone...and not defending himself with street fighting or some sort of "mma"...he'll just be destroyed by punches and kicks.
@TheBrunozxc well a lot of people in streets fights dont strike, some go and grapple as well, and those that try and grapple will get owned, with arm locks, wrist locks etc, and unless they are retarded there not gonna stand there getting punched, they'll move in and try throw them, or apply an arm lock, wrist lock whatever
If you're training as if a street fight is going to be anything like what happens in a sport fight or dojo training session, you're just waiting to get killed.
What works in a regulated one on one fight with a ref, and what happens in an aikido class, are NOTHING like the street.
The difference of course being Aikidoka know it. Aikido is a "Do." A study of a principle through Martial techniques, in this case those used against armed and armored soldiers hundreds of years ago.
These "demonstrations" make me laugh. I love the way the dude in the black and white camo pants is trying to hit him with his arm pit as he swings the club right over the top giving the other dude a great opportunity. At least try a bit harder to make it look more realistic.
Aikido looks amazing in action but how effective is it for none pros to use in real world situations against thugs for example, i have huge respect for all styles but im just not sure, when you pit Aikido against MMA they dont seem to do too well, but put them with their partners and they thrown them all over the place :P respect to all martial arts.
Nice but this is not Aïkido but a mix of ju-jitsu and aïki-jutsu created by a serbian instructor for self-defense.
You can find it in ex-yugoslavia and in the USA, where they translate Realni Aikido by Real Aikido but the good translation is Realistic Aikido, not Real !
They rather change the name for Serbian School of Aïki-Ju-Jitsu than Real Aïkido or Aïkido.
That's the point of view of a majority of martial arts students (Aïkidokas and others)
The chap in blue is pretty skilled. Still a bit too choreographed for my taste, but at least the attacker isn't overextending himself as much as in other Aikido demos I've seen. Would be interesting to see this system in a more realistic sparring situation!
citala sam kako je isao na pecanje sa najvisim drzavnicima u kazahstanu...:DDD i kako niko da ulovi ni jednu ribu, a on peca kapitalca za kapitalcem....posle je saznao da su u reci bili ronioci koji su njemu kao dragom gostu kacili ribu na udicu :DDDDDDDDDD
@boostie420 This style is for taking out idiots (more than half the human population). It's a defensive style like karate but it revolves around grapples and disarming. If its weak please point out any flaws.
I know the gokyu is a beginner, but he is still going very slow for any of these techniques. maybe it was fro comparison to the second pair, but still.
@xIkeMainerx like the fact that it is never tried against an actually trained attacker who actually tries to do damage as opposed to go along with the demo for example?
The closest aikido ever got to a real test that I personally know of is that Steven Sigal apparently helped train some MMA people. And "helped" is important here.
I'd be glad to be proven wrong, I gave aikido 13 years of my life
@xIkeMainerx Yes it's not effective that's why russian police special units ''alpha'' and ''cobra'' are training in real aikido and that's why president Mohamar Gaddafy had Ljubomir Vracarevic, the founder of real aikido , to train his body guards and army!Yes you are right.Please stop talking about things that you don't know .My suggestion is that you should go practice real aikido for a short time and see what it is.Then you can come back and tell that is, for taking out idiots.
@lamogio1992 Maybe you should read our whole conversation before you go flapping at the mouth because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I was defending Aikido...I have taken it, learn to read and comprehend a sentence first before replying.
@SegaMaiden Ocigledno je da ti nemas pojma o cemu pricas, ni o svrsi aikidoa, ni o vezbanju, probaj malo da budes u tome nekih 10ak godina pa onda pricaj nesto, prosao sam sve moguce prezentacije od ovih nasih fejkera do pravih majstora iz Japana, nidje veze sa ovim tzv. "Realnim" aikidom... A to da probam da se pokacim sa ovim i da cu da zazalim... cisto sumnjam, al' ajde, neka ti bude, cisto zato sto me mrzi da se raspravljam -.-
at 0:46 he blocks the arm. I don't care what your 9th dan TKD Sayhun says, if a big guy attacks you full force, sure you can try to block, but it will leave your arm flopping in the wind. Aikido always counters or avoids using taisabaki. To teach to instctivly block is dangerous, not just un-aiki.
I understand that if you want to brutalize the technique and call it 'real' aikido that's fine. But there's certain things that make aikido what it is. The obvious thing that real aikido doesn't take into account is non-aggression, don't argue, it's obviously meeting violence with violence. But aikido also ignores weight and height. You can stop a punch from a 6ft 15st man because you counter, never block and disrupt the flow. cont next comment
I'm sorry but you guys got nothin' over us here in omaha...we are rude crude and break each other for the sake of practice...this this is noting to slow no passion get off the mat..you disgrass the art...once you get the knife you cut throw the blade and leave them be osensai knew bushido you know nothing of respect....get off and stay off the mat
ive noticed that aikido being effective as self defence, but when it comes to a straight up fight it doesnt have the effectiveness you want and need. in the dojo and show fighting its all well and good, but... street fighting a different story. because most of the time you wont get the oppotunity to use the throws and locks. and even you can and do throw him to the ground odds are when your launching him across the street his friend is caving your temple in with a 2 x 4.
@benhodgson10 the issue with aikido is never the techniques. The locks, joint manipulation, and general throws are dangerously effective. The issue with aikido is that it doesn't have the uke attack realistically, because it's still stuck on this swordmanship crap, as in all attacks in aikido represent a cut of a sword. If it did away with it's classical pride, and taught defense from jabs instead of ganmen-tsuki, hooks instead of yokomen uchi, the art would be more than sufficient in real life
@KurtCobain198666 you know the difference between a jab and a punch? a jab is a very quick movement often used to test the defense of your opponent.. a punch is supposed to hurt really... and so Ive made the experience that you can only conter a jab.. there is no technique against jabs in any martial art
@Bluesoulbucket there's no defense against jabs? In JKD i have seen plenty of counters against jabs, taught by Inosanto. A jab is the most common attack, so to say theres no defense from it is ridiculous. It just takes good timing and realistic training
@Bluesoulbucket and to say that a jab is the test of defense and isnt supposed to hurt like a punch is ridiculous. In JKD we snap a jab from the knee, through the hip, then out. If you put your whole body into a jab, it can hurt just as much, if not more than a punch. It's like saying a jab from Muhammad Ali wouldn't hurt, yes it would. Faints are designed to test and manipulate the opponents defence, not jabs.
@kenfo0 when did i say that jabs don't have multipla purposes. Please copy and past that comment. I was actually arguing with a guy as he said jabs aren't supoosed to hurt.
"And to say that a jab is the test of defense and isnt supposed to hurt like a punch is ridiculous." That is what i said. A jab can be used to test defence, but any attack movement (punch or kick) that isn't being used with doing damage in mind, is a wasted movement.
@KurtCobain198666 Like I said, you need to study more. "Faints (SIC) are designed to test and manipulate the opponents defence, not jabs. ". Jabs most certainly can be used to test defense, to alter the timing/pace of a fight, to do damage, to help negate an opponent's speed advantage, etc. "....w/o doing damage is wasted movement". Feel free to "not waste movement" while you get your ears boxed like a child's.
@kenfo0 it chuckles me that you assume i need to study more. I study JKD 3 times a week, and aikido twice. A jab is to hurt, a feint is to test defence. "A slight wave of the hand, a stamp of the foot, a sudden shout, can produce sensory irradations sufficient to reduce coordination" Bruce Lee on feints.
He doesn't say anything in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do about jabs testing defence. Since Lee is considered the best martial artist of the 20th century, i'll take his word for it.
@KurtCobain198666 I makes me chuckle to see you think "it chuckles me..." works in English. You can study 1+1 = 5 for 100 yrs....it's still wrong. Bruce Lee got by on sheer personal talent. He had fantastic physical ability. That being said, what you just did is a logical fallacy called "appeal to authority". "If b.lee said it, or forgot to say something, or didn't live long enough to say or change something, it MUST be THA TROOOTH". Nonsense. I know you think you are bruce. You aren't.
@kenfo0 so first of all your issue is that i need to study more, which is ridiculous as i study four times a week, and have been training since i was 4. Now you assume i think i'm something like Bruce Lee. And yes, if the guy who is considered the greatest martial artist of the 20th century said it, i will agree. No I don't think i'm Lee. Besides the fact that his mind and ability were beyond the times, he was also a short, bad-sighted oriental man, with one leg longer than the other.
@Kurt so, first of all, I already explained you can "study" 1+1=5 24/7/365....you still got it wrong. Your "English lesson" fell flat as well, as you incorrectly took "think" out of the clear context and wording of the statement. I guess your study list now includes: 1. how to fight. 2. Proper use of English. 3. Lessons in honesty or reading comprehension, depending upon WHY you used incorrect context. 4. Logic....just because b.lee said something does not make it true, or the whole truth.
@kenfo0 Oh and one last thing, since you're trying to demoralise people by picking up on grammatical errors, here's a solid point for you. "I makes me chuckle to see you think " if you could see what i thought, i'd be amused. You actually meant "it makes me chuckle to see you wrote"
@antifasreus it's not kata, the only kata in aikido is with bokken and jo. The yellow belt is doing predetermined attacks, like in a grading, as in a sensei saying 'show me kote gaeshi from yokomen uchi', and then your partner performs the attack, and you know how they will attack, and how you should neutralise. A kata is a set of movements choreographed to determine ability. As i've said, aikido doesnt have hand to hand kata.
Every Aikido video I see be it with a weapon or whatever, the assailant always comes at the defender like a lumbering oaf with their arms outstretched, any person's natural instinct could grab the them.
Why don't they attack at full speed in demonstration videos? Because someone slashing at you with a knife in real is quicker than you working out when they are doing it and how to defend.
Because it's a demo. They exaggerate it so people get to see how stuff works. If he'll actually stand up to a guy with a knife... I'd say he has much better shot than your average guy. Still, no. 1 rule when encountering a guy with a knife, is:
@HunterCadre Haha I agree. Listen to Richard Pryor explain how to deal with a dangerous situation. For those of you without defense training I urge you to listen closely. :D
I liked the very straight forwardness to the techniques. no 360 runaround before reverse direction or anything like that. I must admit that the attacker was only using strikes and not very clean and efficient ones at that, however it had a realistic bar room like feel to the striking style. so in dealing with normal thugs this demo has proven to be quite effective. (although it must be noted that normal thugs in US has a bit of wrestling in them due to high school wrestling.)
well it still doesn't look effective. I mean I can see the uses in that I'm not dumb but untill the pain is intolerable the assaulter will continue to attack which is not seen in all the demo's of aikido I've seen thus far.
@Lyunatis its actually very effective, it wears them out quickly and they lose a lot of moral when they feel they can't touch the other guy.. plus he could have taken any one of these guys out in a single lock by straining them to submission.
It's interesting that you don't see that many demonstrations by martial arts that actually teach hard core fighting. There are no prearranged techniques, rehearsed demos, - they just go through conditioning and fight (very few damos of Mauy Thai, combat sambo, catch wrestling, western boxing, brazilian jiujitsu, etc.). They just back up their skill in the cage or ring or street. Other schools go through demo marketing.
It is Real Aikido, but the firs participants were yellow and white belt, so don't expect the full art from them. The second demonstration is kinda real among some rules, and I guess they are quite effective in a real fight also. Do you know why can't you see REAL aikido fight scenes? Because they learned that get involved in a fight ONLY if it is necessary, and avoid them if you can. Real masters are those who can win a fight without fighting.
@XDisciple I'm totally agree with you, except one thing. It is impossible to say that who will win a fight from those guys. I think it doesn't depend on the martial art, you train. The end of the fight will only depends on the people fighting in it. Maybe a boxer is used to pain, an aikido guy know how to let motions flow, but if they pick up a fight together, it will be a fight between two mentally responsible fight, not the fight between Aikido and Boxing. So it depends on personality.
@scheigl24 You are missing the point. I picked boxing as an example of a practical martial art. It could as well be wrestling, or BJJ. It is because these practitioners spar on a regular basis and constantly deal with unpredictable (to a degree though) situations, which helps them prepare for real encounters. I am not sure why I am arguing with you on this one, since if you were into martial arts, you would know that Aikido has absolutely no defense against boxing punches.
@scheigl24 "Real masters are those who can win a fight without fighting. "
I am not a real master, so I will not go into detail on that one, but I do agree that fighting should be avoided whenever possible. Martial arts should be like a concealed weapon, never shown or used, unless the situation requires it.
However, then it does, who do you think is more likely to survive a real encounter, someone like boxers who exchange real punches every training session, or someone who never even spars?
@panderetoir its a demonstration. yeah i know it looks bad.its not a fight its a demonstration. its where the uke attacks and the tori has to properly defend.
@Noobzoo19@panderetoir its a demonstration. yeah i know it looks bad.its not a fight its a demonstration. its where the uke attacks and the tori has to properly defend.
@JOTATAN2@panderetoir its a demonstration. yeah i know it looks bad.its not a fight its a demonstration. its where the uke attacks and the tori has to properly defend.
he doesnt flow at all which is what its is all about. Theinspectigator that is the wrong attitude.. im only 5 9 and 170lbs and i have been jumped at the bar by more than one guy at a time and fought my way out with aikido.. so i f u can apply it it will always beat muscle.. actually the more muscle the easier u are to beat cause u r so stiff
lol guys weight lifting is gr8 , trust me i do it and it helps a lot with strength but u take a brick shit house and put him up against an akido master .... HA he's gonna b out cold b4 he knows whats hit him and im positive of that. The secand he makes a move the build guys gunna b on his rear end lol ;)
Also why do u think u never win against door staff / bouncers in clubs and police ... its technique they use and forms 2 take u down ... strength isant everything ;)
la verdad te pido disculpas se ve que no estaba en un buen momento para escribir, te pido nuevamente que me sepas disculpar, no suelo contestar ni escribir estas cosas
This annoys me to no end. Here are four able bodied men. They're not in wheelchairs, I don't see any neck braces -- each and every one of them are capable of lifting weights. There's no excuse for this.
I respectfully disagree. Aikido uses the persons strength against them. If you fight someone who knows aikido you quickly learn that the stronger you are and the harder you attack them, the harder you fall. You do not need to be strong to effectively utilize aikido, I have seen 100lb girls toss 300lb linebackers like they were nothing.
" I have seen 100lb girls toss 300lb linebackers like they were nothing. "
NO, you really did not see that, unless it was a staged demonstration. I know how aikido works, and ILL work aikidos ass. Im quicker than they guy trying to run it on me, im stronger than the guy trying to use it, and i am smart enough to know how to avoid its manipulation.
Aikido may work against big slow dummies, not me.
Think about a fake, you anticiapate a left and i hit you with a right, you're done.
so what if you come up against an aikido practitioner who is either faster than you or has incredible reflexes (as martial artists often train to have)
would you mind thinkin that over so it makes sense. Just because someone has better reflexes and/or speed doesn't mean he/she would unilateraly win any fight when not using a martial art. The point was smaller/weaker ppl who train with aikido can use faster (naturally or trained) reflexes to hold their own thanks to the ability to use the techniques in a real situation
smaller/weaker people huh? Sounds to me like this is exactly where lifting weights comes in!!! id rather be lifting weights to get bigger and stronger (which i do by the way) than to practice aikido and hope that my skills can make up for my weak little body
You're really making this way to easy. have a nice day
Some people prefer to remain quick, which big muscular guys aren't.
Some people don't have the adequate body frame to build the muscles to the level needed to be 'safe' in a situation.
The best way to make your point would be to not leave any reply possible to your answers. I just gave two valid replies of the obvious ones available.
You're really making this way to easy. have a nice day
Right so you thought I meant in terms of punching/arm speed only, and probably didn't even consider the possiblity of other types of speed which large muscles make harder.
Speed is more than just punching/close quarters movement. If you couldn't figure that out then don't bother with this anymore.
I thought you meant speed as in the time it takes someone to rip off your belt, wash it, then stick it up your ass before you even have time to step out of the way of the oncoming attack
I'll take your word for it, Top-level MMA fighters like GSP NEVER lift weights cause it makes them S L O W. In fact most of them are alergic to iron
^^^(sarcastic)^^^
just stick to dancing around in your robe, and ill stick to lifting heavy things agreed?
The assumption that "bigger is slower" is just ignorant and has been disproven for Oh ... about a hundred years. Some bigger guys don't work flexibility and relaxation and rely too much on the wrong kinds of strength but others are faster than you can imagine, obviously.
furthermore, if im not throwing haymakers what does that leave you with? lightning fast jabs and hooks that you can barely see. If i retain my momentum, you have nothing to use against me. You get caught off guard one time (cause not everyone can be like the mythical dojo guy from WWII who sensed the bomb coming) and all your years of training, time and money are wasted, faith evaporated.
How often is a cop one-on-one with a suspect? SELDOM.They usually have backup which is required to help hold the guy in position. Aikido works to hold someone down and puts them in a convenient position to put cuffs on their hands but thats about it. Aikido is not good for combat style fights.....And not only that but how often do you see officers struggling to complete the hold? all the time, cause the suspect can squirm out of it especially if they have sweat on their hands/wrists/arms
I see Aikido going back to its Aikijutsu roots. I learned Aikijutsu, and have seen/performed majority of techniques in this video, so it is nothing new really. This is not to say that this version of Aikido is ineffective though. On the contrary, it can be very effective self-defense method and will work in most situations. However, Aikido practitioners will have very difficult time making their techniques work against boxers, wrestlers, Sambo, BJJ, Judo, etc... Just facts.
@XDisciple I have noticed that this argument never takes place amongst high level practitioners of any art. I propose that Aikido is not about technique, that is merely a language with which to study principle. I say this with no attachment to the conversation, or its conclusion, but merely as an opportunity for reflection. One of my favorite quotes is "the purpose of today's training, is to defeat yesterdays understanding"
Knowing any martial art should give you an edge in a fight. I am not sure what you meant by whether or not one is able to pull-off a technique. As far as I know, a technique is useless in a real fight if it cannot be properly executed, or doesn't work.
you are all forgetting aikido is a weaponry art aswell. aikidoka will have no prblem with boxers as someone mentioned. u ever throw a jab at someone and get your arm chopped off with a katana?
This is very typical. Fact is the simpler something is the more effective. A straight punch for example. Another thing is though, should an aikido master actually force an angled wrist into a throw and the boxer fight against it something would break or he'd get free. Either case aikido man won't win because breaking bones and joints isnt sport. Besides Krav maga and wing chun for example could never be fully used in sports. They are not for fun nor is self defence.
@XDisciple well it looks like i know what ur talking about can u plzz tell me y in ever video i akido i see it always says REAL AKIDO in caps is it trying to say that the videos that some people post oup of akido is fake
@tododashi Look at the description for the video and you'll see why. Simply put, it means that this version of Aikido has all of the original JuJutsu locks and strikes intact. Simply put, it is Aikijutsu, the art Aikido came from, but they call it Real Aikido. Don't know why though.
@XDisciple could you tell me why??? i don't disagree with you or anything... but i just don't understand why ^^ I've been practicing shotokan karate for some years now, and would like to learn some more throw oriented martial arts as well :)
@IHasMonkeyable I am not 100% sure about your question. If you are looking for throwing/grappling arts to complement your Karate strikes, then perhaps Sambo or Judo would fit the bill perfectly. BJJ is another great choice, but it is more of a grappling rather than throw oriented.
While I agree with this statement, it holds true of all martial arts. Any well trained fighter will have difficulty with any other well trained fighter.
In my class everybody wears white....eventhough some are black or blue or whatever....I see that at other dojos as well...its just a thing they always do in aikido...always learning they say
I didn't have any negative meaning to say about belt colors, but in my knowledge, yellow and white means no more than 1 year experience, so I just wanted to mean that they should be learning by a good teacher. By the way, the belt color system started from Kodokan Judo in 19th century, and most Japanese Budo but Judo, Aikido and Karate still don't have any system to show their ranks by attire. We say that we are showing our ranks by what we are just doing. Belts are actually nothing.
Personally people should leave arts as they are and no "Bastard-ise" them and turn them into summit there are not, by all means cross train and learn other arts to make you more versatile, but do not "Hybrid-ise" arts. And real Aikido, why not call it summit else more fitting, and lose the Hakama, the blue dogi are fine, but please have some repect for the old ways of Japan and its traditions etc....
To be honest the techniques I have seen in and other videos of Ljubomir Vrancevic are sloppy, the white belt and yellow belt are doing a slightly better job.
When the Grand Master of real aikido Ljubomir Vrancevic traind with green berets in USA he came across the same redicule. Then he openly challanged anyone from the unit he was teaching to come out and take him out mind you those guys are well over 90kg with previous martial arts training. He broke the guys arm in 2 places just to prove his point. From then on in was quiet when he was explaning the technique. I listed this his interview.
If the Grandmaster has to brake an darm to prove a point then he aint no grandmaster, just a thug and bully, is he proving to himself or others that he can do this, If you train in Iwama Ryu you discover amongst other things that when training properly you can, when applied properly do the same damage if needed, you just dont need to batter your studets to prove that to them himself or others, who gave him the 10th Dan title, Tony the Tiger from a Frosties Packet,Hombu Dojo, Iwama Tanrankan??
@kaiten34 Ljubomir Vrancevic had the honour of meeting his majesty the Emperor of Japan who granted him the title of Grand Master for his accomplishments regarding this discipline. It is an enourmous honor to even set eyes on the Emperor let alone be invited to the palace to gain this honor, specially for him beign a forigner to recieve such an honour.
Breaking the arm of a insulent student was probably necessary as he would never resort to such measures if he didn't have to.
True or just passed on from person to person? from the "Grandmaster" I know of many "martial artists" that claim things but never have the proof to back it up in anyway.
Breaking the arm of a student is really not they way to go or discipline a student in any martial art, maybe making them see the error of there ways, but not to inflict such an injury, personally I would have sud his Balkan ass off, bring them to the point of feeling the pain, is slightly ok, but even so, not needed. Period
really? Don't kid yourself. Wrestling is great but they hardly train against real life resisting opponents. More like against other wrestlers and grapplers. I'd like to see wrestling vs. a Kalista. A fully resisting kalista. A wrestler would die in seconds from blood loss.
As I read through some of the comments, I see how foolish and uneducated some people are when it comes to Aikido. A demonstration is simply showing the observer the possibilities of Aikido. A well trained student of Aikido knows that you will only do whats necessary to survive and get out of a dangerous situation in one piece. , if used effectively the results can be devastating to the attacker. not about blocks, your suppose to use the attackers momentum, and energy against themselves
rugar16 1 month ago
It seems suspiciously convenient that 'real' aikido' can never be shown or proven because it's too dangerous!!
jonhabu 3 months ago
Yawnz...Japanese are best in making tea, in a super slow and quiet manner.
Beginningless 4 months ago
Jujitsu?MMA? is that two arts can handle a 4 to 5 people to take down? how about they used weapon?they used hard thing? am i rolling on the ground to arm lock a 1 guy? the most effective is Combat Judo, and Aikido in real fights.
gubsrey 4 months ago
@gubsrey In these cases you describe, I'd rather use krav maga. The only valuable thing aikido has is its philosophy.
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any martial arts are applicable with timing and depends on the situation.. when you say street fighting.. there is no rules,, when you apply aikido in street fights it is very dangerous,, you know why? because a real aikido you never know he/she is an aikido. ok mma? why not they not use aikido in UFC? because that is very fatal..can kill you or break your arms or neck in just seconds. of course when you are fighting with bigger guys you are really in trouble,,in street fights aikido use sword
gubsrey 4 months ago
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driketo 5 months ago
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pawertec 5 months ago
Pretty good demo. I think he bends his back too much though.
mdiem 5 months ago
Street fight most of the times relies on anger and adrenaline moving and attacking with what comes to mind which isn't good because at that point you have no control and can't think clearly. Not many people have a plan when they fight just to try and knock out or kill the other person. With any style they have a plan unless someone has trained just to harm, then most of the times if they get hit they stop thinking clearly and are just like the fighter they are fighting. Easy to take down.
fastitslol 5 months ago
The words AIKIDO and REAL should only be put together in the same sentence with a "NO" between them.
TheBrunozxc 6 months ago
@TheBrunozxc say that when i put a wrist lock on you and you go down to your knees, if you dont go your wrist will simply break, stupid person, do your research before you mock Aikido, all you've seen is DEMONSTRATIONS do you understand what that word means eh? fucking moron how wrong you are, your loss pal.
Brady2k10 5 months ago
@Brady2k10 Say that when you're trying to grab someone wrist and they're hammering your face with punches. (Y)
TheBrunozxc 5 months ago
@TheBrunozxc thats the thing though, you think i cant block against punches? how silly are you, my goal is to block the punches, maybe throw some myself, but the main aim is to get into grappling then try and grab a wrist, an arm, whatever, your really stupid if you think im just gonna stand there blatantly going for his wrist whilst he punches me with the other hands, when he throws his punches, ill block, but keep hold of his arms, its really easy to apply a wrist lock and most dont expect it
Brady2k10 5 months ago
@Brady2k10 Then its no Aikido. Its street fighting...or anything else.
TheBrunozxc 5 months ago
@TheBrunozxc yes but in a street fight anything goes, im not gonna stand there trynna wait for them to punch me, id use aikido mixed with street fighting
Brady2k10 5 months ago
@Brady2k10 Thats the point dude.
Aikido doesnt work well "in real life".
If you see a dude trying to "aikido" someone...and not defending himself with street fighting or some sort of "mma"...he'll just be destroyed by punches and kicks.
TheBrunozxc 5 months ago
@TheBrunozxc well a lot of people in streets fights dont strike, some go and grapple as well, and those that try and grapple will get owned, with arm locks, wrist locks etc, and unless they are retarded there not gonna stand there getting punched, they'll move in and try throw them, or apply an arm lock, wrist lock whatever
Brady2k10 5 months ago
@TheBrunozxc
If you're training as if a street fight is going to be anything like what happens in a sport fight or dojo training session, you're just waiting to get killed.
What works in a regulated one on one fight with a ref, and what happens in an aikido class, are NOTHING like the street.
The difference of course being Aikidoka know it. Aikido is a "Do." A study of a principle through Martial techniques, in this case those used against armed and armored soldiers hundreds of years ago.
pimpdalyrical 5 months ago
These "demonstrations" make me laugh. I love the way the dude in the black and white camo pants is trying to hit him with his arm pit as he swings the club right over the top giving the other dude a great opportunity. At least try a bit harder to make it look more realistic.
kaiedyn 6 months ago
Aikido looks amazing in action but how effective is it for none pros to use in real world situations against thugs for example, i have huge respect for all styles but im just not sure, when you pit Aikido against MMA they dont seem to do too well, but put them with their partners and they thrown them all over the place :P respect to all martial arts.
offspringy 6 months ago
Nice but this is not Aïkido but a mix of ju-jitsu and aïki-jutsu created by a serbian instructor for self-defense.
You can find it in ex-yugoslavia and in the USA, where they translate Realni Aikido by Real Aikido but the good translation is Realistic Aikido, not Real !
They rather change the name for Serbian School of Aïki-Ju-Jitsu than Real Aïkido or Aïkido.
That's the point of view of a majority of martial arts students (Aïkidokas and others)
TheLolovonparis 6 months ago
I train Judo with a guy that does Aikido. We were jacking around and I found that Aikido had some good stuff that I wish I could learn.
skrimpshidy 8 months ago
quiero ver si esas técnicas con mil giros me las puede hacer a mí
FdBini 8 months ago
The chap in blue is pretty skilled. Still a bit too choreographed for my taste, but at least the attacker isn't overextending himself as much as in other Aikido demos I've seen. Would be interesting to see this system in a more realistic sparring situation!
piaten 9 months ago
lol 2:04
anewbcake 9 months ago
mislim na ljubu vracarevica
brankica454 10 months ago
citala sam kako je isao na pecanje sa najvisim drzavnicima u kazahstanu...:DDD i kako niko da ulovi ni jednu ribu, a on peca kapitalca za kapitalcem....posle je saznao da su u reci bili ronioci koji su njemu kao dragom gostu kacili ribu na udicu :DDDDDDDDDD
brankica454 10 months ago
THIS IS SO DUMB MOVING HELLA SLOW WTF IS THAT
boostie420 11 months ago
@boostie420
Don't be ridiculous speed is nothing when it comes to Aiki, it's about technique.
DarkestDivide 9 months ago
@boostie420 It's a demonstration obviously... Use you're head for Gods sake!
xIkeMainerx 9 months ago
@xIkeMainerx i dnt give a shit this style is weak as #$%&
boostie420 9 months ago
@boostie420 This style is for taking out idiots (more than half the human population). It's a defensive style like karate but it revolves around grapples and disarming. If its weak please point out any flaws.
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pathologistical 6 months ago
I know the gokyu is a beginner, but he is still going very slow for any of these techniques. maybe it was fro comparison to the second pair, but still.
pathologistical 6 months ago
@xIkeMainerx like the fact that it is never tried against an actually trained attacker who actually tries to do damage as opposed to go along with the demo for example?
The closest aikido ever got to a real test that I personally know of is that Steven Sigal apparently helped train some MMA people. And "helped" is important here.
I'd be glad to be proven wrong, I gave aikido 13 years of my life
ennot 2 months ago
@xIkeMainerx Yes it's not effective that's why russian police special units ''alpha'' and ''cobra'' are training in real aikido and that's why president Mohamar Gaddafy had Ljubomir Vracarevic, the founder of real aikido , to train his body guards and army!Yes you are right.Please stop talking about things that you don't know .My suggestion is that you should go practice real aikido for a short time and see what it is.Then you can come back and tell that is, for taking out idiots.
lamogio1992 1 month ago
@lamogio1992 Maybe you should read our whole conversation before you go flapping at the mouth because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I was defending Aikido...I have taken it, learn to read and comprehend a sentence first before replying.
xIkeMainerx 1 month ago
i think i was clear enough, and if your stupid ass can't get it it's not my fault.
GokiGandalf 1 year ago
This is stupid...try this on Ernesto Hoost or Buakaw and get low kick
sheemsheem 1 year ago
@sheemsheem listen here, all of u dump shit dont know anything about Aikido so please don't comment about it let aikidokas leave their comments.
GokiGandalf 1 year ago
@GokiGandalf If you want to be strong study pokemon.
sheemsheem 1 year ago 32
If you DONT want to get annihilated in a street fight...DO NOT take classes from this guy
oxnard4life805 10 months ago
hahahahah, koliko bedna prezentacija, uzas :D koji kurac realni aikido, palite...
phan90serbia 1 year ago
@phan90serbia Sine, ako stvarno tako mislis, probaj da se pokacis sa njim, garantujem ti da ces zazaliti. Nemas ti pojma.
SegaMaiden 10 months ago
@SegaMaiden Ocigledno je da ti nemas pojma o cemu pricas, ni o svrsi aikidoa, ni o vezbanju, probaj malo da budes u tome nekih 10ak godina pa onda pricaj nesto, prosao sam sve moguce prezentacije od ovih nasih fejkera do pravih majstora iz Japana, nidje veze sa ovim tzv. "Realnim" aikidom... A to da probam da se pokacim sa ovim i da cu da zazalim... cisto sumnjam, al' ajde, neka ti bude, cisto zato sto me mrzi da se raspravljam -.-
phan90serbia 7 months ago
jako lepo !
RobertBrtka 1 year ago
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KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
at 0:46 he blocks the arm. I don't care what your 9th dan TKD Sayhun says, if a big guy attacks you full force, sure you can try to block, but it will leave your arm flopping in the wind. Aikido always counters or avoids using taisabaki. To teach to instctivly block is dangerous, not just un-aiki.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
I understand that if you want to brutalize the technique and call it 'real' aikido that's fine. But there's certain things that make aikido what it is. The obvious thing that real aikido doesn't take into account is non-aggression, don't argue, it's obviously meeting violence with violence. But aikido also ignores weight and height. You can stop a punch from a 6ft 15st man because you counter, never block and disrupt the flow. cont next comment
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
esto es el chamullo mas grande que vi en toda mi vida !!!!!!!!! jajajjajajajjajajajaja
LucasComan666 1 year ago
"Realistic" not "real".
Lillymill 1 year ago
Aikido: "The art of cooperation"
Mrtorpedin 1 year ago
I'm sorry but you guys got nothin' over us here in omaha...we are rude crude and break each other for the sake of practice...this this is noting to slow no passion get off the mat..you disgrass the art...once you get the knife you cut throw the blade and leave them be osensai knew bushido you know nothing of respect....get off and stay off the mat
undivinexxgrace 1 year ago
ive noticed that aikido being effective as self defence, but when it comes to a straight up fight it doesnt have the effectiveness you want and need. in the dojo and show fighting its all well and good, but... street fighting a different story. because most of the time you wont get the oppotunity to use the throws and locks. and even you can and do throw him to the ground odds are when your launching him across the street his friend is caving your temple in with a 2 x 4.
benhodgson10 1 year ago
@benhodgson10 which is what training is for? its better to have the knowledge and not use it than to have no knowledge to use at all
kapoof2 1 year ago
try to fight an aikidoka and return for tell us your story, heu if you are living yet
gbob666 1 year ago
@benhodgson10 the issue with aikido is never the techniques. The locks, joint manipulation, and general throws are dangerously effective. The issue with aikido is that it doesn't have the uke attack realistically, because it's still stuck on this swordmanship crap, as in all attacks in aikido represent a cut of a sword. If it did away with it's classical pride, and taught defense from jabs instead of ganmen-tsuki, hooks instead of yokomen uchi, the art would be more than sufficient in real life
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666 you know the difference between a jab and a punch? a jab is a very quick movement often used to test the defense of your opponent.. a punch is supposed to hurt really... and so Ive made the experience that you can only conter a jab.. there is no technique against jabs in any martial art
Bluesoulbucket 1 year ago
@Bluesoulbucket there's no defense against jabs? In JKD i have seen plenty of counters against jabs, taught by Inosanto. A jab is the most common attack, so to say theres no defense from it is ridiculous. It just takes good timing and realistic training
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@Bluesoulbucket and to say that a jab is the test of defense and isnt supposed to hurt like a punch is ridiculous. In JKD we snap a jab from the knee, through the hip, then out. If you put your whole body into a jab, it can hurt just as much, if not more than a punch. It's like saying a jab from Muhammad Ali wouldn't hurt, yes it would. Faints are designed to test and manipulate the opponents defence, not jabs.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666 jabs have many purposes, other than to hurt. you need to study more...
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 when did i say that jabs don't have multipla purposes. Please copy and past that comment. I was actually arguing with a guy as he said jabs aren't supoosed to hurt.
"And to say that a jab is the test of defense and isnt supposed to hurt like a punch is ridiculous." That is what i said. A jab can be used to test defence, but any attack movement (punch or kick) that isn't being used with doing damage in mind, is a wasted movement.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666 Like I said, you need to study more. "Faints (SIC) are designed to test and manipulate the opponents defence, not jabs. ". Jabs most certainly can be used to test defense, to alter the timing/pace of a fight, to do damage, to help negate an opponent's speed advantage, etc. "....w/o doing damage is wasted movement". Feel free to "not waste movement" while you get your ears boxed like a child's.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 it chuckles me that you assume i need to study more. I study JKD 3 times a week, and aikido twice. A jab is to hurt, a feint is to test defence. "A slight wave of the hand, a stamp of the foot, a sudden shout, can produce sensory irradations sufficient to reduce coordination" Bruce Lee on feints.
He doesn't say anything in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do about jabs testing defence. Since Lee is considered the best martial artist of the 20th century, i'll take his word for it.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666 I makes me chuckle to see you think "it chuckles me..." works in English. You can study 1+1 = 5 for 100 yrs....it's still wrong. Bruce Lee got by on sheer personal talent. He had fantastic physical ability. That being said, what you just did is a logical fallacy called "appeal to authority". "If b.lee said it, or forgot to say something, or didn't live long enough to say or change something, it MUST be THA TROOOTH". Nonsense. I know you think you are bruce. You aren't.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 so first of all your issue is that i need to study more, which is ridiculous as i study four times a week, and have been training since i was 4. Now you assume i think i'm something like Bruce Lee. And yes, if the guy who is considered the greatest martial artist of the 20th century said it, i will agree. No I don't think i'm Lee. Besides the fact that his mind and ability were beyond the times, he was also a short, bad-sighted oriental man, with one leg longer than the other.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@Kurt so, first of all, I already explained you can "study" 1+1=5 24/7/365....you still got it wrong. Your "English lesson" fell flat as well, as you incorrectly took "think" out of the clear context and wording of the statement. I guess your study list now includes: 1. how to fight. 2. Proper use of English. 3. Lessons in honesty or reading comprehension, depending upon WHY you used incorrect context. 4. Logic....just because b.lee said something does not make it true, or the whole truth.
kenfo0 1 year ago
@kenfo0 Oh and one last thing, since you're trying to demoralise people by picking up on grammatical errors, here's a solid point for you. "I makes me chuckle to see you think " if you could see what i thought, i'd be amused. You actually meant "it makes me chuckle to see you wrote"
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
this is not real but is a Kata,
antifasreus 1 year ago
@antifasreus it's not kata, the only kata in aikido is with bokken and jo. The yellow belt is doing predetermined attacks, like in a grading, as in a sensei saying 'show me kote gaeshi from yokomen uchi', and then your partner performs the attack, and you know how they will attack, and how you should neutralise. A kata is a set of movements choreographed to determine ability. As i've said, aikido doesnt have hand to hand kata.
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
yea right...i dare you to try to disarm a led pipe from my hands before i crack you in the collar bone.
GuitardedSavant357 1 year ago
@GuitardedSavant357
Actually, Aikido is very effective when it comes to that.
AnonRanGER01 1 year ago
@AnonRanGER01 I agree. All the aikido movements are based on the movements of a katana. So yea, it's extremely effective when it comes to that.
terror2002 1 year ago
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gbob666 1 year ago
@GuitardedSavant357 poor guy, you will be disarmed in one seconde
gbob666 1 year ago
those 1st batch were boring.. its just a simple combat aikido moves. even i can perform that.. but sa nxt batch is awesome!
cuteak029 1 year ago
Every Aikido video I see be it with a weapon or whatever, the assailant always comes at the defender like a lumbering oaf with their arms outstretched, any person's natural instinct could grab the them.
Why don't they attack at full speed in demonstration videos? Because someone slashing at you with a knife in real is quicker than you working out when they are doing it and how to defend.
TerminusAt 1 year ago
@TerminusAt
Because it's a demo. They exaggerate it so people get to see how stuff works. If he'll actually stand up to a guy with a knife... I'd say he has much better shot than your average guy. Still, no. 1 rule when encountering a guy with a knife, is:
Give it some legs.
HunterCadre 1 year ago
@HunterCadre Haha I agree. Listen to Richard Pryor explain how to deal with a dangerous situation. For those of you without defense training I urge you to listen closely. :D
watch?v=5eq0i_uBOI4
TiMMYSQUibbLES 1 year ago
fcking fake
cataclysmwow18 1 year ago
Nothing that real there was there?
TheZhongzheng 1 year ago
I liked the very straight forwardness to the techniques. no 360 runaround before reverse direction or anything like that. I must admit that the attacker was only using strikes and not very clean and efficient ones at that, however it had a realistic bar room like feel to the striking style. so in dealing with normal thugs this demo has proven to be quite effective. (although it must be noted that normal thugs in US has a bit of wrestling in them due to high school wrestling.)
jaskey 1 year ago
well it still doesn't look effective. I mean I can see the uses in that I'm not dumb but untill the pain is intolerable the assaulter will continue to attack which is not seen in all the demo's of aikido I've seen thus far.
Lyunatis 1 year ago
@Lyunatis its actually very effective, it wears them out quickly and they lose a lot of moral when they feel they can't touch the other guy.. plus he could have taken any one of these guys out in a single lock by straining them to submission.
TheHitez 1 year ago
New Age Budo, even doing it hard and fast can't disguise that.
blacksashman 1 year ago
2:04 2:05 ... simply doesn't work in the streets!!!
felipebrasil5 1 year ago
It's interesting that you don't see that many demonstrations by martial arts that actually teach hard core fighting. There are no prearranged techniques, rehearsed demos, - they just go through conditioning and fight (very few damos of Mauy Thai, combat sambo, catch wrestling, western boxing, brazilian jiujitsu, etc.). They just back up their skill in the cage or ring or street. Other schools go through demo marketing.
BushidoCode72 1 year ago
It is Real Aikido, but the firs participants were yellow and white belt, so don't expect the full art from them. The second demonstration is kinda real among some rules, and I guess they are quite effective in a real fight also. Do you know why can't you see REAL aikido fight scenes? Because they learned that get involved in a fight ONLY if it is necessary, and avoid them if you can. Real masters are those who can win a fight without fighting.
scheigl24 1 year ago
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XDisciple 1 year ago
@XDisciple I'm totally agree with you, except one thing. It is impossible to say that who will win a fight from those guys. I think it doesn't depend on the martial art, you train. The end of the fight will only depends on the people fighting in it. Maybe a boxer is used to pain, an aikido guy know how to let motions flow, but if they pick up a fight together, it will be a fight between two mentally responsible fight, not the fight between Aikido and Boxing. So it depends on personality.
scheigl24 1 year ago
@scheigl24 You are missing the point. I picked boxing as an example of a practical martial art. It could as well be wrestling, or BJJ. It is because these practitioners spar on a regular basis and constantly deal with unpredictable (to a degree though) situations, which helps them prepare for real encounters. I am not sure why I am arguing with you on this one, since if you were into martial arts, you would know that Aikido has absolutely no defense against boxing punches.
XDisciple 1 year ago
@scheigl24 "Real masters are those who can win a fight without fighting. "
I am not a real master, so I will not go into detail on that one, but I do agree that fighting should be avoided whenever possible. Martial arts should be like a concealed weapon, never shown or used, unless the situation requires it.
However, then it does, who do you think is more likely to survive a real encounter, someone like boxers who exchange real punches every training session, or someone who never even spars?
XDisciple 1 year ago
what do you guys think about if i practiced aikido as an art and pankration as a fighting style altogether? wouldn't that be good
HOKUTOSHINKENis 1 year ago
I want real footage, goddamn it.
Where can I see someone with Aikido skills being attacked and defending themselves?
dlite922 1 year ago
@dlite922 good luck finding that -)
No3225 1 year ago
Aikido is great at breaking peoples arms and shoulders. But it simply doesn't work in a sport environment.
omfgitsgambit 1 year ago
The opposite of practical..
questionvideo 1 year ago
description idiot
igor2008franca 1 year ago
faaaaake
frikky99 1 year ago
white belt vs. yellow belt(6º vs. 5º kyu) what do you expect?
panderetoir 1 year ago
@panderetoir its a demonstration. yeah i know it looks bad.its not a fight its a demonstration. its where the uke attacks and the tori has to properly defend.
21526001270528 1 year ago
@21526001270528 i know it´s a demostration,but a demostration made by low belts,i know about ukes-nages and toris,i,m 2º kyu of tomiki aikido.
panderetoir 1 year ago
ppl that say pro wrestling is fake this is way worse lmao
Noobzoo19 1 year ago
@Noobzoo19 @panderetoir its a demonstration. yeah i know it looks bad.its not a fight its a demonstration. its where the uke attacks and the tori has to properly defend.
21526001270528 1 year ago
wtf is this aikido would never work in a real fight unless it was against a horrible fighter ...
Noobzoo19 1 year ago
Aikido = fake
JOTATAN2 1 year ago
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@JOTATAN2 @panderetoir its a demonstration. yeah i know it looks bad.its not a fight its a demonstration. its where the uke attacks and the tori has to properly defend.
21526001270528 1 year ago
he doesnt flow at all which is what its is all about. Theinspectigator that is the wrong attitude.. im only 5 9 and 170lbs and i have been jumped at the bar by more than one guy at a time and fought my way out with aikido.. so i f u can apply it it will always beat muscle.. actually the more muscle the easier u are to beat cause u r so stiff
TheitaniofRome 1 year ago
ya the blue gi hakema guy isnt that good
TheitaniofRome 1 year ago
I think that knowledge of joint manipulation is tremendously helpful even if the real fight doesn't look as fluid or cool as the demos
TonyDent84 1 year ago
*Yawn
hackleback 1 year ago
i don't see nothing of real in this video... as common in aikido (apart that this is identical to aikikai...)
mapick2tube 1 year ago
Look at those vs. knife/club techniques, I liked them. Looks pretty real, too, unlike many other aikido videos out there...
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TeReffleese32 1 year ago
you should have an annotation saying the better part is at the end of the video so people dont just click low stars and leave
i liked it
it looked tomiki style at the end
michaelshore1992 1 year ago
Those locks hurt like a motherfucker. They were teaching us Kotegaeshi, and the Sensei just about snapped my wrist...
If they can manipulate your joints well enough, and you're not just a huge monster, if you resist, they'll break your arm...
ThanatosofDeath 1 year ago
lol guys weight lifting is gr8 , trust me i do it and it helps a lot with strength but u take a brick shit house and put him up against an akido master .... HA he's gonna b out cold b4 he knows whats hit him and im positive of that. The secand he makes a move the build guys gunna b on his rear end lol ;)
liquiduswolf 1 year ago
Also why do u think u never win against door staff / bouncers in clubs and police ... its technique they use and forms 2 take u down ... strength isant everything ;)
liquiduswolf 1 year ago
Los 2 primeros son novatos que (naturalmente) están re nerviosos al estar rodeados de expectadores.
Y el ultimo muestra que el AIKIDO a diferencia de lo que dicen un par de personas, es totalmente aplicable a la realidad.
BudaTomu 1 year ago
toda la razon, retiro lo dicho, un saludo
tidio0007 1 year ago
la verdad....una mierda, yo hago aikido y eso es un insulto
tidio0007 1 year ago
@tidio0007 eso es solo una demostracion k hacen en ferias y esas cosas
yo = hago aikido
elavataromega 1 year ago
la verdad te pido disculpas se ve que no estaba en un buen momento para escribir, te pido nuevamente que me sepas disculpar, no suelo contestar ni escribir estas cosas
tidio0007 1 year ago
ok
pero no tienes x k diskulparte
solo fue una opinion de tu parte
elavataromega 1 year ago
A mi me pasa todo el tiempo.
BudaTomu 1 year ago
This annoys me to no end. Here are four able bodied men. They're not in wheelchairs, I don't see any neck braces -- each and every one of them are capable of lifting weights. There's no excuse for this.
Iiquidiai 1 year ago
its better to just lift weights for strength than this BS
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
I respectfully disagree. Aikido uses the persons strength against them. If you fight someone who knows aikido you quickly learn that the stronger you are and the harder you attack them, the harder you fall. You do not need to be strong to effectively utilize aikido, I have seen 100lb girls toss 300lb linebackers like they were nothing.
middi21 1 year ago
" I have seen 100lb girls toss 300lb linebackers like they were nothing. "
NO, you really did not see that, unless it was a staged demonstration. I know how aikido works, and ILL work aikidos ass. Im quicker than they guy trying to run it on me, im stronger than the guy trying to use it, and i am smart enough to know how to avoid its manipulation.
Aikido may work against big slow dummies, not me.
Think about a fake, you anticiapate a left and i hit you with a right, you're done.
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
so what if you come up against an aikido practitioner who is either faster than you or has incredible reflexes (as martial artists often train to have)
kadsjdsflk 1 year ago
THEN HE WOULD BEAT ME IN A FIGHT WITHOUT THE AIKIDO!
thanks for asking, it really helped me prove my point ; )
you really couldnt figure that one out on your own?
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
would you mind thinkin that over so it makes sense. Just because someone has better reflexes and/or speed doesn't mean he/she would unilateraly win any fight when not using a martial art. The point was smaller/weaker ppl who train with aikido can use faster (naturally or trained) reflexes to hold their own thanks to the ability to use the techniques in a real situation
kadsjdsflk 1 year ago
smaller/weaker people huh? Sounds to me like this is exactly where lifting weights comes in!!! id rather be lifting weights to get bigger and stronger (which i do by the way) than to practice aikido and hope that my skills can make up for my weak little body
You're really making this way to easy. have a nice day
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
Some people prefer to remain quick, which big muscular guys aren't.
Some people don't have the adequate body frame to build the muscles to the level needed to be 'safe' in a situation.
The best way to make your point would be to not leave any reply possible to your answers. I just gave two valid replies of the obvious ones available.
You're really making this way to easy. have a nice day
kadsjdsflk 1 year ago
"Some people prefer to remain quick, which big muscular guys aren't."
two of the stupidest things i have ever heard, seperated by a comma....I just couldnt read any more of your comment i was in shock
some people PREFER to remain quick? so i guess some prefer to remain slow?
big muscular guys are slow? Fast twitch muscles make you move fast
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
Right so you thought I meant in terms of punching/arm speed only, and probably didn't even consider the possiblity of other types of speed which large muscles make harder.
Speed is more than just punching/close quarters movement. If you couldn't figure that out then don't bother with this anymore.
kadsjdsflk 1 year ago
I thought you meant speed as in the time it takes someone to rip off your belt, wash it, then stick it up your ass before you even have time to step out of the way of the oncoming attack
I'll take your word for it, Top-level MMA fighters like GSP NEVER lift weights cause it makes them S L O W. In fact most of them are alergic to iron
^^^(sarcastic)^^^
just stick to dancing around in your robe, and ill stick to lifting heavy things agreed?
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
The assumption that "bigger is slower" is just ignorant and has been disproven for Oh ... about a hundred years. Some bigger guys don't work flexibility and relaxation and rely too much on the wrong kinds of strength but others are faster than you can imagine, obviously.
MrMZaccone 1 year ago
furthermore, if im not throwing haymakers what does that leave you with? lightning fast jabs and hooks that you can barely see. If i retain my momentum, you have nothing to use against me. You get caught off guard one time (cause not everyone can be like the mythical dojo guy from WWII who sensed the bomb coming) and all your years of training, time and money are wasted, faith evaporated.
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
So I suppose large numbers of police officers who practice aikido are full of bs when they say this is practical in the real world?
kadsjdsflk 1 year ago
YES!
How often is a cop one-on-one with a suspect? SELDOM.They usually have backup which is required to help hold the guy in position. Aikido works to hold someone down and puts them in a convenient position to put cuffs on their hands but thats about it. Aikido is not good for combat style fights.....And not only that but how often do you see officers struggling to complete the hold? all the time, cause the suspect can squirm out of it especially if they have sweat on their hands/wrists/arms
THEinspectigator 1 year ago
Este video es cualquiera, no tienen tecnica
Pablo99909 2 years ago
I see Aikido going back to its Aikijutsu roots. I learned Aikijutsu, and have seen/performed majority of techniques in this video, so it is nothing new really. This is not to say that this version of Aikido is ineffective though. On the contrary, it can be very effective self-defense method and will work in most situations. However, Aikido practitioners will have very difficult time making their techniques work against boxers, wrestlers, Sambo, BJJ, Judo, etc... Just facts.
XDisciple 2 years ago 11
@XDisciple I have noticed that this argument never takes place amongst high level practitioners of any art. I propose that Aikido is not about technique, that is merely a language with which to study principle. I say this with no attachment to the conversation, or its conclusion, but merely as an opportunity for reflection. One of my favorite quotes is "the purpose of today's training, is to defeat yesterdays understanding"
vgsmrk 1 year ago
@XDisciple
100% agreed
ChandlerDonati 1 year ago
Yes, from boxing, judo ect. attacks, but i think that just knowing a martial art can help in a fight whether you can or can't pull off a technique.
buddy2000529 1 year ago
Knowing any martial art should give you an edge in a fight. I am not sure what you meant by whether or not one is able to pull-off a technique. As far as I know, a technique is useless in a real fight if it cannot be properly executed, or doesn't work.
XDisciple 1 year ago
I mean, if you are not very good at that technique you can still have an edge in a fight.
buddy2000529 1 year ago
you are all forgetting aikido is a weaponry art aswell. aikidoka will have no prblem with boxers as someone mentioned. u ever throw a jab at someone and get your arm chopped off with a katana?
sincitymunch 1 year ago
also this is not real aikido...real aikido there are only 2 colored belts..white meaning beginner and black meaning master beginner
sincitymunch 1 year ago
belts in martial arts are only made to hold up your pants. u have different customs for different people.
anrei0000 1 year ago
In traditional dojos. @ sincitymunch yes, but who takes a katana or jo around with them?
buddy2000529 1 year ago
@XDisciple
This is very typical. Fact is the simpler something is the more effective. A straight punch for example. Another thing is though, should an aikido master actually force an angled wrist into a throw and the boxer fight against it something would break or he'd get free. Either case aikido man won't win because breaking bones and joints isnt sport. Besides Krav maga and wing chun for example could never be fully used in sports. They are not for fun nor is self defence.
InvadersDie 1 year ago
@XDisciple ha ha ha that is so true,they will have hard time against any one who does a full contact fight of any kind
No3225 1 year ago
@XDisciple well it looks like i know what ur talking about can u plzz tell me y in ever video i akido i see it always says REAL AKIDO in caps is it trying to say that the videos that some people post oup of akido is fake
tododashi 1 year ago
@tododashi Look at the description for the video and you'll see why. Simply put, it means that this version of Aikido has all of the original JuJutsu locks and strikes intact. Simply put, it is Aikijutsu, the art Aikido came from, but they call it Real Aikido. Don't know why though.
XDisciple 1 year ago
@XDisciple could you tell me why??? i don't disagree with you or anything... but i just don't understand why ^^ I've been practicing shotokan karate for some years now, and would like to learn some more throw oriented martial arts as well :)
IHasMonkeyable 1 year ago
@IHasMonkeyable I am not 100% sure about your question. If you are looking for throwing/grappling arts to complement your Karate strikes, then perhaps Sambo or Judo would fit the bill perfectly. BJJ is another great choice, but it is more of a grappling rather than throw oriented.
Hope this helped.
XDisciple 1 year ago
@XDisciple thats because true budo doesn't mean challenge, aikido isn't about fighting in the mma. but you are right
Kanut93 1 year ago
@XDisciple
While I agree with this statement, it holds true of all martial arts. Any well trained fighter will have difficulty with any other well trained fighter.
lupocephalic 1 year ago
They are pretty good considering their belts are yellow and white.
stag414 2 years ago
In my class everybody wears white....eventhough some are black or blue or whatever....I see that at other dojos as well...its just a thing they always do in aikido...always learning they say
ebrahimebram 2 years ago
I didn't have any negative meaning to say about belt colors, but in my knowledge, yellow and white means no more than 1 year experience, so I just wanted to mean that they should be learning by a good teacher. By the way, the belt color system started from Kodokan Judo in 19th century, and most Japanese Budo but Judo, Aikido and Karate still don't have any system to show their ranks by attire. We say that we are showing our ranks by what we are just doing. Belts are actually nothing.
stag414 1 year ago
Personally people should leave arts as they are and no "Bastard-ise" them and turn them into summit there are not, by all means cross train and learn other arts to make you more versatile, but do not "Hybrid-ise" arts. And real Aikido, why not call it summit else more fitting, and lose the Hakama, the blue dogi are fine, but please have some repect for the old ways of Japan and its traditions etc....
kaiten34 2 years ago
To be honest the techniques I have seen in and other videos of Ljubomir Vrancevic are sloppy, the white belt and yellow belt are doing a slightly better job.
kaiten34 2 years ago
When the Grand Master of real aikido Ljubomir Vrancevic traind with green berets in USA he came across the same redicule. Then he openly challanged anyone from the unit he was teaching to come out and take him out mind you those guys are well over 90kg with previous martial arts training. He broke the guys arm in 2 places just to prove his point. From then on in was quiet when he was explaning the technique. I listed this his interview.
reddwarf50 2 years ago
If the Grandmaster has to brake an darm to prove a point then he aint no grandmaster, just a thug and bully, is he proving to himself or others that he can do this, If you train in Iwama Ryu you discover amongst other things that when training properly you can, when applied properly do the same damage if needed, you just dont need to batter your studets to prove that to them himself or others, who gave him the 10th Dan title, Tony the Tiger from a Frosties Packet,Hombu Dojo, Iwama Tanrankan??
kaiten34 2 years ago 7
@kaiten34 Ljubomir Vrancevic had the honour of meeting his majesty the Emperor of Japan who granted him the title of Grand Master for his accomplishments regarding this discipline. It is an enourmous honor to even set eyes on the Emperor let alone be invited to the palace to gain this honor, specially for him beign a forigner to recieve such an honour.
Breaking the arm of a insulent student was probably necessary as he would never resort to such measures if he didn't have to.
reddwarf50 2 years ago
True or just passed on from person to person? from the "Grandmaster" I know of many "martial artists" that claim things but never have the proof to back it up in anyway.
Breaking the arm of a student is really not they way to go or discipline a student in any martial art, maybe making them see the error of there ways, but not to inflict such an injury, personally I would have sud his Balkan ass off, bring them to the point of feeling the pain, is slightly ok, but even so, not needed. Period
kaiten34 2 years ago
really? Don't kid yourself. Wrestling is great but they hardly train against real life resisting opponents. More like against other wrestlers and grapplers. I'd like to see wrestling vs. a Kalista. A fully resisting kalista. A wrestler would die in seconds from blood loss.
MikeUntstinks 2 years ago
If you think so, you really have noc idea of Aikido. Theres is the hell of a lot you can do.
blackhawk99999 2 years ago