Finnish Kven kings gave birth to both Sweden and Russia. The quite recent Rurikid DNA test fully supports what the Norse sagas and other medieval accounts reveal:
Based on medieval sources, the ruling families of England, France, Iceland, Ireland, Normandy, Norway, the Orkney Islands, Russia, Scotland and Sweden - among many others - descended from the Finnish kings of Kvenland and Finland.
To all you that don't understand that Finland concist two differend tripes that habbitate area of Finland. read the study of Markku Niskanen The origine of the Baltic-Fins from the Physical Antrhopological point of View will you ?
Been recently alot of discussion about this. West is germanic, east is uralic (been a warzone of two great powers, what do you expect? Alot of theories, though, pick one.
@FINwarfare If you can remain sober and bring your antidepressant medicine with you,maybe. Finns seem great at defending what's their's, they don't invade other people. They are people who know their own limitations, and that's smart. Also, when did Finns become 'know it alls'. Finns I found in the past kept their 'nose' and opinions out other peoples business. Now they have a need to share their opinions. A present day quality they share with the Swedes. Mind your business!!!!!!
Indo-europeans, particularly russians, have stolen our lands and driven us to near extinction. It was not enough for them however, they want to murder our heritage and identity too by branding us as "siberian mongols" and other bullshit like that, and discredit our 10,000 years of continous existence in northern and eastern europe since the glacier melted.
If any small nation deserves independency it is Finland.
Much of what my Sweden has accomplished in terms of military victories in the past, like, for instance, those in the horrid 30 year wars and those over Denmark, would not have been possible without Finnish troops.
Tiny Finland also defeated Stalin.
Without Finland, the North of Europe today would not be free.
The one thing you guys should understand is that genes and language are two separate things and don't always go hand in hand. Linguistics is the scientific study of human language and genetics is the science of genes and heredity.
Why is the area of Raetia/Noricum (modern Switzerland and South Tyrol) in the same color as Scandinavia? Do these people have the same genetic or linguistic heritage? Thank you!
Finnish Language is not related to Scandinavian Languages.
It belongs to Finno Ugric Family, with Hungarian, Estonian, Sami Languages.
It is funny some Finns try to show Finland -as a Scandinavian Country. Face the truth, Why do Finns speak an asian rooted language? Why do Finns still have asian eye shapes- even they are blue or green?
Mixing with Swedish and Germans made them look more Scandinavian, but that cant change the truth!
@tatatakat The truth? Seems that you have a very simplistic view of things and how they should be. Finnish language is indeed Uralic, but Proto-Uralic was spoken at this side of the Ural mountains not in Asia - I have nothing against Asians but that is just a fact. Shape of Finnish eyes - all of us have 'Asian eyes', seriously?
Modern population genetic tells that Finns indeed have statistically significant 'Eastern' markers - but most of the gene distribution patterns are 'Western'. ...
@tatatakat ... cont. Whatever we are - we are a mix of several waves of populations from all directions during the ages.
Finnish culture, history, political system, values and society in general is most definitely European - actually 'Scandinavian' or as we prefer 'Nordic'.
You should accept that history of cultures, genes and languages are only loosely connected - and thus the whole picture is much more complicated, intertwined and interesting than your naive labeling scheme would require.
@tatatakat Finland is a nordic country, and yes many of our ancestors came from urals(western urals), but a big part of our ancestors also came from western europe. in eastern Finland people are genetically maybe a bit more like the ancestors that came from the urals, but in eastern and southern Finland people are like any other europeans, there are really no visible differences. see EneriGiilaan's comment
@tatatakat Thank God for Turkish education system! You have solved the one thing that scientists have been arguing for years now the origin of Finns. Now why did we spent all that money on genetic resarch when we should have had just ask you guys!
@tatatakat interesting is why Sami peoples are genetically close to Basks (I read this from new Tiedelehti " Finnish Science magazine" so it may not be accurate enough for you but in this genre most information changes all the time) Why does the eastern components of Finns come from Estonia instead of Russia, why are Finns genetically more close to Dutch than Hungarians, so many questions but no really clear answers.
@tatatakat Yeah except that the first populations which came to Finland were from Central and Eastern-Europe. The Uralic people came later to the area of Finland and finns have hardly any genetical or cultural relations to them. Finns' genetically closest relatives are Estonians and Swedes.
Sorry ,but the titles are overloop with pictures the writing disapere to fast, and can not understand a thing.Please make it longer.Remember not just english speeking people are seeing this.So do t- changes.if you can.Thanks.Vic.
Fins gran fathers are comıng from Androvian Turcoid culture, also europa never say huns Avars and ugor altay nations are turcoid, i donno why they hate but in relaty it is normal to have difrent language and difrent nations but in basic same language system and similer genetics and same grand fathers
@Oozy9Millimeetah I can see your point durring world war II the poles evaded southren finland beacuse it was token over by russia,even thow the finnish goverment hade politcal gourps in russia.
The similarity in finnugric languages is in very basic things, like: me:mi, te:ti, just to show the "luckiest" ones, and vovel harmonisation, aglutinaive system, no-genders these are things that can't be changed, these have to be originaly in both languages, so they have to have the same origin, and the Ural is the best answer we can say with the evidences we have now.
The turanic idea is unclear, but uses too many fairy tales, such as Anonymus's one.
I have a question to you: In Hungary now many reject the Uralian homeland theory. And I think you Finns reject it too because you claim you´ve been living in Finnland for 8000 years. So what´s the reason for the similarity in our languages? (You even have words which are closer to Turkish than to Hungarian) I thought this was due to Turanic origin but you say you have nothing to do with Central Asia. Am I right? So how the similarity?
@smalltarpan The thing is that the linguistic, genetic and archaeological evidence nowadays paints a much richer picture of the past than the old one where some immutable, inbreed groups of peoples were wandering, and perhaps pushing each other around the landscape.
It seems now quite evident that those three (genealogy, language and culture) can develop and move relatively separate from each other. So our languages are most definitely related but the genetic connection is much weaker.
Well, i can say that the first reindeerhunters that followed the melting ice were sami/finns and could have spoken a finnish-ugrian language.The first agriculturers in Sweden were probably ancestors of teutons who later became known as goths, vandals and gepids on continental Europe.
Voisitko lisätä Hungary ja Unkari Unkarin kielellä noihin tunnisteisiin, että saadaan esim. Unkarilaiset katsomaan näitä videoita...heitäkin varmasti kiinnostaisi ;D
Most of the area between Norwegian Finnmark (Sapmi not Lapland) through northern Russia has plurality to majority percentage of the N yDNA haplogroup. In Finland and Sapmi it's about 2/3. Germans tend to one of the R1 haplogroups, with the I haplogroup also common in a swath of central Europe. Swedes are also mostly R1 and I.
So congratulations, the Finns never turned into Germans. Though with recombinant DNA it's different, you could have DNA from China and never know it.
The Finns never "turned" into Germans, West Finns and East Finns (who have bigger gene differences than people in middle Europe) are totally different group, East Finns have genetic similarties to Karelian, Estonian, Samí and other stuff, and West Finns are the most propably descendants of Swedes.
@Dorgye anyhow, you said the Finns never turned into Germans, which is exactly what I said. Uralic, including Finn and Sami, has mostly N yDNA, and the Germanics mostly R1 and I. Apparently you agree
I've traced my yDNA line back to 18th-century Kittilä, probably Sami, since they lived there for a long time. I don't know if they were semi-nomadic or not, I've only found the Swedish vital records and they don't say
No, I said that Finns have never been "turned" into germans, I mean that Finns ARE Swedes who came into Finland ages ago. And I don't know about the N yDNA, but Finns' have A VERY BIG difference between Karelians and Samí in genetics. Bigger than germans and poles, and many other middle-European people regardless of language or ethnicity. And R1 does exist in Finns and other north-Europeans.
yDNA and mDNA are much easier to trace and compare than anything else. If there were a big difference, maybe the Sami stole women from the Swedes and the Karelians didn't.
Finns have at least 60% N, and at most 30% I and 10%r1. Sami are almost half N, as are Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Mari, and northern Russians in general. I'd be surprised if Karelia weren't.
The N haplogroup started in Asia and moved west through Siberia.
and Belgian Fleming people, we are most propably Germanic by now.
Because our traits are so different when they're compared to sámi, hungarians and some other Finno-Ugric people, it makes perfect sense that we're just swedes who speak Finnish.
Finnish history is almost impossible to explore, since during ??-1800's everyone just thought that we are swedes, and 1800-1900 everyone thought that we were Russian. Nobody even thought about it, just a few people thought that we were mongolians in the early 1900's.
Butbut, since blonde hair and blue eyes are a germanic trait, and over 70% of the Finns have light hair and 90% have blue eyes, present-day Finns certainly aren't from Asia. Also, our genes and DNA stuff are most close to Swedish,
Finnish genes are more european than normal european being 90% european and 10% siberian, almost all other europeans have near-eastern and sub-saharan genes that 10%. Finns also worlds most light eyed, blond and top 3 tallest people, thats perfect european look. type "Finns" on wikipedia or other sources to get facts.
It depends from where has the gene researching been done, like I just said, western and eastern Finns have bigger gene differences than middle-Europeans, germans and poles for example. This "perfect european look" is a GERMANIC trait, and the reason why Finns have that, is because of germanic people emigrating into Finland, like I just mentioned the swedes. East Finns/Karelians are from Siberia, west Finns descend from germanic people.
whole Finland was included. According to recent autosomal (genomewide, 10,000 markers instead of few looked at Y-DNA and MtDNA-studies) give distinct picture of Finnish genes. And no western Finns are not "descendants of swedes" they came like 2000 year ago with same wave than all germanic people to scandinavia/fennoscandinavia with I1 haplogroup which is higher in western and southwestern Finland than anywhere in a world. East Finns are more like estonians. samis are siberian.
Hmmm, interesting. But, please make a better visual solution. it' would be so much better and readable if you found another background, and maybe a bolder font.
sens it dates back very far to...dosnt matter who was there first...they still have a history there..otherwise thinking like that u should walk back to africa and claim some tree that your ansestor climbed down from and start grunting like a monkey
im half swedish half finnish and im proud of my finnish heritage because i like its people...i think its good if reshersing history can avoid to include alot of nationalistic ideas about a glorius past....this misstake most of europe did in 1800s....would be good if u dont do the same now....and keep in mind that many things that are speculated about..are teoris...and the claim that swedish speaking population in finland shouldnt care about their swedish culture or laungish is stupid...
the Finno-Ugric are related to the Turkish tribes and so are the Hungarians, Bulgarians, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Seljuks, Latvians, Estonians, Cossack, Khazars, Kazaks, Ucranians, Kievans, and they are related to the Mongols, in other words the Turks are a mixture of Europeans with Mongols.
Finns belong to a genetic group of their own. Acording to a new wide-ranging genetic mapping study, Finns differ from central Europeans as well as from their neihbours in the east.
The study also found that the Finnish genetic pool does not resemble that of the closest linguistic group, the Hubgarians, but shares more commonalities with the Dutch.
@aylgir ...Genetic variations among Finns can be traced back to location for eastern, western and northern communities. the genetic differences become larger the bigger the distance between communities. Similarly, coastal dwelling Swedish-speaking finns show more genetic similarities to swedes than they do to other Finns.
Nice video! BUT current Finns aren't that Finns who came. Please, take it like fact, not a gossip etc. Finns are from 3/4 influenced by Sweds, Russians etc.
It's like in C. Europe with Hungarians, who are influenced by Slavs. But these nations aren't alone. I'm Czech, we are supposed to be Slavs. We speak the most difficult Slavic language etc. but when our forefathers came to C. Europe, they stayed here with Celtic so now we have Slavic-celtic origin. In Europe there's no clear person.
suomi or finnish people are aborigins in their home.
the miggration happened after ice age from carpathians, and the mixing happened with siberian reindeer hunters, it is our common thing in the past. magyars never lived next to ural, we have not uralic dna.
Hungarians and Finns are 40000 year old Europeans :) the Finns miggrated 8000 ago into Scandinavia. The Hungarians miggrated into Near Eastern and Altayan territories and mixed and came back as Scythians,Huns,Magyars.
hungarians are aborigin carpathians people our specially runes on 7000 year olds tablettso f tatárlaka or blau monuments from mezopotamia- look british museum!
The thing is that finns are in large extent more swedes than swedes are finns. Think about it. Historians agree that the russian foudners were swedes. "Ruser. "Routsi" in Finland from an area called "roslagen". Finns are of mongol origin, talkign about native finns and not today finns that is of mixed mongol-swedish genes. Native finns = mongol races. BTW, it must hurt knowing that you capital was invented by a swedish King and you were a swedish vassal for so long. identity crisis much.
and your mother was a gypsy from india indoeuropean monkey! lie! agree with me? gypsy language is indo, but why? becouse the primitives stole from rulers! finnish, and hungarian runes have 7200 year old origin! oopps, my swedish aryan viking fking hero:d you stole from finns the runes! give back!
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Nope,you're lying because you're a nutcase, everybody can teel, most be yourmongol genes, go read some real dna studies dumbass. The finns were way to primitive, that's why their capital was invented by a swedish king, A SWEDISH KING! What a shame!
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Every race has been some kinda gypsies, your a deluded berlinnazi, the only europeans are the neanderthales, every homo sapien is a gypsie, however some (like you) more than others, finnish people are mongols, I rather be a gypsie than a mongol like your race and finnish people!you're the bottom of the list! Go fuck your ugly eye women! Mongol!
Well you took that one pretty well... Real Indo-Europeans are gypsies... but your or my ancestors arent. -10 000 years ago most of Northern and Eastern Europe was populated by white people speaking Finno-Ugric languages. 80% of white Europeans, including Russians and white North Americans, are descendants of these people. You should forget your "gypsy" IE ancestors and start to focus on your real roots...
genetically you dont have that much genetic relation to those indo-european farmers who came from kurgan culture area. but your language changed. or actually it got infuences from Indo-European languages. Language of the newcomers replaced the older languages but changed under their influence into the Proto-Germanic, Slavonic and baltic languages. north- and middle-europeans are still almost as same as back then. south europeans are indo-europeans...or descents of Franco-Cantabrian lang.
Great mistake indo europeans were not gypsies,they were ultra warlike peoples,that destroyed/assimilated Mesolithic Europe,populated until then,by pre nordics/basques/danubians(Haplogroup I,and R1b only in the basque case) siberians (N1c) and balkanics(E1b1b1a2).
@StellandBlood You are wrong, the Gypsies are Indo-Europeans, they are called the Roma people and they came straight out of northern India the motherland of the Indo-European language, and that's why they're nomadic just like the Indo-Europeans use to be. the oldest Indo- European language is Sanskrit from India and Avestan from Iran.
They came from northern India 4000 years later,when most indo europeans had already departed,they speak a indo aryan language,derivate from previous aryan languages left there,and spoken by other indian populations,most distant to indo europeans,Roma are genetically closer to Indians than to european populations.
Now lets forget the Mongol word... for now. for you swedes its like a swear word. So in old-europe there where to clear language-groups. Finno-Ugric speaking hunters and Franco-Cantabrian language group (Basques..) they populated southern/western-europe. Finno-Ugric speakears northern-Eastern europe and middle-europe.
@0finlander0 finn-ugor nothing to do with the hungarians!!! this is fake history! the habsburgs made this up that the magyars are fiin-ugric family!! the habsburgs they made a law that the hungarians can't look for there roots in asia! and after the funk'in communist came! now they are finding out that we are not finn-ugor family! we have family in kazastan they called madjar
indoeuropean lie, are you from sweden, swedish ancient ydna is I1, from 22 000 year old I !
and the indoeuropean lie, say in bc 3000 came the indos!
lie!
LIE!
finnsh mostly siberians, we magyars are mostly steppics, the language and runes are similars, but i dont understad finn,saami or estonian languages.
the hungarian common people was carpathian, these miggrators gove the language to finns! it was the contact, finns have magyar dna, but we havent finnish!
finns have past and future, the most ancient civilization of eu, point ,and very kidding tales abour siberofishfuckers are a wrong,fake shits! thak you, it was m opinion!
Its funny to witness this urge (BTW by many ethnicities) to legitimize their Euopeaness its ludicrous & unnecessary
u should be proud of yourselves as u r although u speak a non IE language
Finns have 58% of N1c1 haplgr so what?
Indeed the Basques (of course blended genetically with all the surrounding pple)r the only survived ethnicity in europe prior to the spread of IE speakers
real mystery y only the Basque language survived amidst a roman ocean?
finns from central eu magyars too, read a books please from vinca,kurgan,trypillia cultures, the flavio peoples. nomads hahahahha and who made by tatarian tabletts from transylvania with ungarofinnic runes? the aliens? the indioverywhiteeuropeans? or others? these scripts are 7200 year olda! the finns, the estonians, the lives, the udmurts, are the most ancient civilizations on the word! and the hungarians too!
Are you a retard? Finns are also indoeuropeans, however later they mixed with some mongols who ALSO THEY are from indian regions, rather be a indeuropean than a mongol horsemolester.
"rather be a indeuropean than a mongol horsemolester. " i rather be Cro-Magnon than gupsy indo-european. Cro-magnons are original European peoples. Early modern human race. The Cro-Magnon term falls outside the usual naming conventions for early humans and is often used in a general sense to describe the oldest modern people in Europe.
Cro-Magnon were anatomically modern, only differing from their modern day descendants in Europe by their more robust physiology and slightly larger cranial capacity. Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements. And that is everything else than mongol... we have noble ancestors. Its great honour to me be a descendant to greatest human race that has ever walked on earth. We are sons of the mammoth hunters.
Basques have the same ethnicity of the "maykops",they were part of a earlier migration to Europe from the caucasus.
There are some ethnicities,that survived the expansion of the IE peoples,the main ones according to Y DNA, are the Scandinavians/Sardinians,haplogroups (I1, I2a)
Like the basques they live in isolated areas of difficult access and harsh conditions.
Despite they also couldn´t escape mixing and cultural assimilation by the IE peoples.
Kelts and Basques in North Iberia were never romanized,they were able to resist,North Iberia was/is a area of valleys,with plains suitable for farming,and with high mountains,which provided them enough agricultural and metallurgical productivity,and also isolation from the exterior.
to assume that hiding history was the ''bättre folks'' idea to save their own nobility without any evidence instantly shows how guided by his emotions the maker of this might be. Yes i do know that very often germanics were enobled without reason, you only have to look at some old paintings of vikings to understand this huge romantization. It's not fair how they portray themselves beutiful and brave while everyone else is a stinking bum and the world shares their vision, it's a germanic world.
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Offcourse theres no proof, This was what 10.000years ago? when the first Germanics came to scandinavia, They didn't bother whriting things down, And most valuble items have long rotted away..
And Indo-Europeans did not naturally mix whit kinship, The Pre-Indo europeans the Cro-Magnus killed every neandertal off in europe, And there is evidence pointing to fighting between Germanic peoples and others, Such as the Slavic.
Oivia valintoja käyttää Immediate Musicin Electric Romeota että vanhaa kunnon Lux Aeternaa. (keskimmäistä en muista millään, sanoisitko mikä olikaan kappaleen nimi?)
Wikipedia: Finns are genetic isolate. Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements. All other Europeans have Finnish genes but Finns don't have all the genes found in other Europeans. More than 80% of Finnish genes are from single ancient North-European population. Almost 10% Finnish genes seem to be shared with some Siberian populations.
i am swedish, but I don't like the swedish nationalism in West Finland. If they really want to preserve swedish culture and values they should return to Sweden.
I understand what you mean but I think that the swedish speaking minority in Finland have their right to speak swedish (their mother tongue) if they want to....just like we FInns in Sweden have a right to speak FInnish in Sweden....
@Gogaligyx Sweden should return everything what it has stolen from finns => Sweden as a country doesn't exist. Sweden has broken Treaty of Hamina etc etc.
@ruudjuh16 Where germanic people are from? Are you seriously saying that they have always been in Europe? Who was before in Europe, finno-ugric or germanic tribes? If you reply. Use actual data with resources. You are a joke. By the way, the mongol index of norwegian people is much higher than finnish, for example ( I can prove my saying). So go and put that mongol nonsense where the Sun won't shine, please.
I think that there is no anything "swedish nationalism" in West Finland, only some stupid and outdated swedish-speaking finns who think themselves too much. That's all.
@Gogaligyx I'm a Finnish speaking Finn and totally disagree. Swedish speakers have every right to live here and speak their language in the areas they have lived for several centuries. The populations are in effect quite mixed and language of some 'families' changed maybe several times. These people in general identify themselves as Finns not Swedes despite the language.
What is the right level of minority protection is of course a valid topic but moving abroad is not an option.
@Gogaligyx Oddly in that case is the lack of nationalism of Swedes in Sweden itself. Finland is wonderful country and so are Finns great people, and so too Swedes. They should both be nationalists in their own lands and support the other to be so in theirs. Both also need to resist the tide of migration fromt he 3rd world that threatens the national identity of both Finns and to a much greater extent Sweden. Swedes and Finns have much more in common to each other than either to africans or arab.
Good work finlander. Finnish history has been denied by swedish and russians. Today its very hard to research it becouse all history in Finland is written by swedish. This is good attemp to explore it.
hei muista kattoa sitten aina HQ:lla. unohdin sanoa. se vaikuttaa tekstiin eniten. turha tätä on alkaa pikku screeniltä kattoon. et saa mitään selvää välttämättä. tai katso koko näytöllä vaihtoehtoisesti. mutta toi times new roman ei vaikuta olevan paras mahdollinen fontti... muistan yhden paksu tekstisen fontin... vois kokeilla ja kattoa miltä näyttää.
thanks :) and yes. i will. it might take long time when i upload next video.. or next week- idk yet. depends about time. but my plan is to make 4 video serie.
thanks piru. yes. text is little blurry... its the crappy wmm.. (movie maker) vaikee saaha sitä laatua hyväks... ellen mä sitte kylmästi lisää tiedostokokoa kunnolla. ja tota teksti tyyppiä ja väriä pitäis miettiä. sellai mahollisimman selkee.
Finnish Kven kings gave birth to both Sweden and Russia. The quite recent Rurikid DNA test fully supports what the Norse sagas and other medieval accounts reveal:
Based on medieval sources, the ruling families of England, France, Iceland, Ireland, Normandy, Norway, the Orkney Islands, Russia, Scotland and Sweden - among many others - descended from the Finnish kings of Kvenland and Finland.
kvenland.org
1010Gisele 1 week ago
To all you that don't understand that Finland concist two differend tripes that habbitate area of Finland. read the study of Markku Niskanen The origine of the Baltic-Fins from the Physical Antrhopological point of View will you ?
ospehu1 2 weeks ago
i'm not finnish or anything, but it's in my belief that finns are mainly a germanic people and a slight bit uralic around 10% from what i read
CountNadir 1 month ago
@CountNadir
Been recently alot of discussion about this. West is germanic, east is uralic (been a warzone of two great powers, what do you expect? Alot of theories, though, pick one.
Sethae 1 month ago
@CountNadir and here we go again .. one more uneducated kid ....
qwertystudios1 1 month ago
@qwertystudios1 i'm actually quite well read and knowledgeable
CountNadir 1 month ago
what is the first song?
johauHAU 1 month ago
i had a hard time trying to read the text.
johauHAU 1 month ago
I keep coming back for the music O.o lol.
hashmal1 2 months ago
Crazy finns:)
fromgods 2 months ago
Gay
workatthefarm 3 months ago
Finnish ultranationalism? I guess everyone has to have their fair share of idiots ... us included -_-;
junkrika 3 months ago
what kind of map is this?? oh so finns dominated whole europe, even ireland? hahahahahahah
1337BananaL33TVostok 3 months ago
@1337BananaL33TVostok
It's not about domination, it shows where Finno-Ugric people were hunting mammoths during the Ice Age.
th4970 3 months ago
@1337BananaL33TVostok I think, it's not so hard to dominate Ireland, or Sweden.
Might be easy to us, finns.
FINwarfare 2 months ago 5
fntime 1 month ago
Indo-europeans, particularly russians, have stolen our lands and driven us to near extinction. It was not enough for them however, they want to murder our heritage and identity too by branding us as "siberian mongols" and other bullshit like that, and discredit our 10,000 years of continous existence in northern and eastern europe since the glacier melted.
The lies! The disgusting, terriible lies!
ZimoP 4 months ago
im only here cuz of hetalia. sorry. : / just need some info.
thehelpfullhint 4 months ago
The concept of Culture goes hand-in-hand with concept of Unoriginality.
Development of culture is Development of Unoriginality
- Egon Friedell-
kontrapunkti 4 months ago
If that song gets played one more time I'm killing my speakers.
buckwats 4 months ago
Finland has been part of Sweden and of Russia.
But it manages better on its own..
If any small nation deserves independency it is Finland.
Much of what my Sweden has accomplished in terms of military victories in the past, like, for instance, those in the horrid 30 year wars and those over Denmark, would not have been possible without Finnish troops.
Tiny Finland also defeated Stalin.
Without Finland, the North of Europe today would not be free.
Thank you, proud Finns.
scholion 4 months ago 17
According to this clip Proto.uralics cam from western siberia:
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FirbenStrid 4 months ago
The one thing you guys should understand is that genes and language are two separate things and don't always go hand in hand. Linguistics is the scientific study of human language and genetics is the science of genes and heredity.
Nr0876 5 months ago
Why is the area of Raetia/Noricum (modern Switzerland and South Tyrol) in the same color as Scandinavia? Do these people have the same genetic or linguistic heritage? Thank you!
BosnianPanslavism 5 months ago
2:43 Whats the name for the song?
Kallefisa 5 months ago
@Kallefisa
That would be Craig Armstrong - Escape.
What's the first song that plays?
Aivottaja 2 weeks ago
Finns are not Germanic. They are Siberian.
Finnish Language is not related to Scandinavian Languages.
It belongs to Finno Ugric Family, with Hungarian, Estonian, Sami Languages.
It is funny some Finns try to show Finland -as a Scandinavian Country. Face the truth, Why do Finns speak an asian rooted language? Why do Finns still have asian eye shapes- even they are blue or green?
Mixing with Swedish and Germans made them look more Scandinavian, but that cant change the truth!
tatatakat 6 months ago
@tatatakat The truth? Seems that you have a very simplistic view of things and how they should be. Finnish language is indeed Uralic, but Proto-Uralic was spoken at this side of the Ural mountains not in Asia - I have nothing against Asians but that is just a fact. Shape of Finnish eyes - all of us have 'Asian eyes', seriously?
Modern population genetic tells that Finns indeed have statistically significant 'Eastern' markers - but most of the gene distribution patterns are 'Western'. ...
EneriGiilaan 6 months ago
@tatatakat ... cont. Whatever we are - we are a mix of several waves of populations from all directions during the ages.
Finnish culture, history, political system, values and society in general is most definitely European - actually 'Scandinavian' or as we prefer 'Nordic'.
You should accept that history of cultures, genes and languages are only loosely connected - and thus the whole picture is much more complicated, intertwined and interesting than your naive labeling scheme would require.
EneriGiilaan 6 months ago
@tatatakat Finland is a nordic country, and yes many of our ancestors came from urals(western urals), but a big part of our ancestors also came from western europe. in eastern Finland people are genetically maybe a bit more like the ancestors that came from the urals, but in eastern and southern Finland people are like any other europeans, there are really no visible differences. see EneriGiilaan's comment
Vamutus 5 months ago
@tatatakat Thank God for Turkish education system! You have solved the one thing that scientists have been arguing for years now the origin of Finns. Now why did we spent all that money on genetic resarch when we should have had just ask you guys!
Nr0876 5 months ago
@Nr0876 ı have to say that you are not funny, you are just ignorant.
What is so complicated about Finns origin?
Finns are Uralic. Later they mixed with Swedish, Germans and Baltic tirbes in history.
If you want to know what your ancestors looked like at the beginning, just look at your relatives : Sami, Nenets and Komi people.
tatatakat 5 months ago
@tatatakat interesting is why Sami peoples are genetically close to Basks (I read this from new Tiedelehti " Finnish Science magazine" so it may not be accurate enough for you but in this genre most information changes all the time) Why does the eastern components of Finns come from Estonia instead of Russia, why are Finns genetically more close to Dutch than Hungarians, so many questions but no really clear answers.
Nr0876 5 months ago
@tatatakat And no I'm not a fennoist and no I don't like this video I just watched it because this magazine I read made me curious.
Nr0876 5 months ago
@tatatakat correction: with Basks I mean Basque people, i'm not not sure if Bask is the correct term
Nr0876 5 months ago
@tatatakat Yeah except that the first populations which came to Finland were from Central and Eastern-Europe. The Uralic people came later to the area of Finland and finns have hardly any genetical or cultural relations to them. Finns' genetically closest relatives are Estonians and Swedes.
Nuclearwaste13 4 months ago in playlist finn-magyar
here s finnish history;
20000 bc - 200 bc: primitive nomadic siberian tribes
200 bc - 200 ac: "let s move to scandinavia!"
200 - 1900: adopt scandinavian history and culture
1900 - ... still trying to behave like a scandinavian(but at least they look like them lol)
Flaeren 6 months ago
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granskare 6 months ago
Sorry ,but the titles are overloop with pictures the writing disapere to fast, and can not understand a thing.Please make it longer.Remember not just english speeking people are seeing this.So do t- changes.if you can.Thanks.Vic.
almasan1247 8 months ago
? Mitää
Zubrus555 8 months ago
How do you explain that Finns have shovel shaped teeth(asian trait)?
FirbenStrid 9 months ago
@FirbenStrid
Your extremely bad eyesight probably explains it. Solution: get a new pair of glasses :D
Stahlgrau330Ci 9 months ago
@FirbenStrid there are far too many people in Asia for there to be such thing as an "Asian trait."
kozmon0t 7 months ago
@FirbenStrid how do you know they have these type of teeth? I know that their DNA does consist of Asiatic elements (Hapologroup N1c)
SecretQT1 6 months ago
sinivalkoset lasit vittuun päästä videon tekijält
clubcanthandleme100 9 months ago
Fins gran fathers are comıng from Androvian Turcoid culture, also europa never say huns Avars and ugor altay nations are turcoid, i donno why they hate but in relaty it is normal to have difrent language and difrent nations but in basic same language system and similer genetics and same grand fathers
RrObbieisme 10 months ago
Hail motherland
OonProo 11 months ago
@OonProo
Finland = Fatherland
motherland is for bitch ass russians
Oozy9Millimeetah 9 months ago
@Oozy9Millimeetah I can see your point durring world war II the poles evaded southren finland beacuse it was token over by russia,even thow the finnish goverment hade politcal gourps in russia.
zeinbrug 9 months ago
The similarity in finnugric languages is in very basic things, like: me:mi, te:ti, just to show the "luckiest" ones, and vovel harmonisation, aglutinaive system, no-genders these are things that can't be changed, these have to be originaly in both languages, so they have to have the same origin, and the Ural is the best answer we can say with the evidences we have now.
The turanic idea is unclear, but uses too many fairy tales, such as Anonymus's one.
EneriGiilaan is correct. Try to understand.
Norbert144 11 months ago
Hello Friends!
I have a question to you: In Hungary now many reject the Uralian homeland theory. And I think you Finns reject it too because you claim you´ve been living in Finnland for 8000 years. So what´s the reason for the similarity in our languages? (You even have words which are closer to Turkish than to Hungarian) I thought this was due to Turanic origin but you say you have nothing to do with Central Asia. Am I right? So how the similarity?
Greetings from Hungary
smalltarpan 11 months ago
@smalltarpan The thing is that the linguistic, genetic and archaeological evidence nowadays paints a much richer picture of the past than the old one where some immutable, inbreed groups of peoples were wandering, and perhaps pushing each other around the landscape.
It seems now quite evident that those three (genealogy, language and culture) can develop and move relatively separate from each other. So our languages are most definitely related but the genetic connection is much weaker.
EneriGiilaan 11 months ago
Well, i can say that the first reindeerhunters that followed the melting ice were sami/finns and could have spoken a finnish-ugrian language.The first agriculturers in Sweden were probably ancestors of teutons who later became known as goths, vandals and gepids on continental Europe.
alarik36 1 year ago
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alarik36 1 year ago
good work finlander, some fact that are not racial slur from russia.
Greetings from a Coast Town i Northern Norway with a large amount of people with Finnish decent called Vesisaari!
thorzo90 1 year ago
Voisitko lisätä Hungary ja Unkari Unkarin kielellä noihin tunnisteisiin, että saadaan esim. Unkarilaiset katsomaan näitä videoita...heitäkin varmasti kiinnostaisi ;D
Imphipis 1 year ago
Most of the area between Norwegian Finnmark (Sapmi not Lapland) through northern Russia has plurality to majority percentage of the N yDNA haplogroup. In Finland and Sapmi it's about 2/3. Germans tend to one of the R1 haplogroups, with the I haplogroup also common in a swath of central Europe. Swedes are also mostly R1 and I.
So congratulations, the Finns never turned into Germans. Though with recombinant DNA it's different, you could have DNA from China and never know it.
kozmon0t 1 year ago
@kozmon0t
The Finns never "turned" into Germans, West Finns and East Finns (who have bigger gene differences than people in middle Europe) are totally different group, East Finns have genetic similarties to Karelian, Estonian, Samí and other stuff, and West Finns are the most propably descendants of Swedes.
Dorgye 1 year ago
@Dorgye What if they're from Northwest Finland? That's Sami-land
kozmon0t 1 year ago
@kozmon0t
Then it's quite obvious they are Samí, isn't?
Dorgye 1 year ago
@Dorgye anyhow, you said the Finns never turned into Germans, which is exactly what I said. Uralic, including Finn and Sami, has mostly N yDNA, and the Germanics mostly R1 and I. Apparently you agree
I've traced my yDNA line back to 18th-century Kittilä, probably Sami, since they lived there for a long time. I don't know if they were semi-nomadic or not, I've only found the Swedish vital records and they don't say
kozmon0t 1 year ago
@kozmon0t
No, I said that Finns have never been "turned" into germans, I mean that Finns ARE Swedes who came into Finland ages ago. And I don't know about the N yDNA, but Finns' have A VERY BIG difference between Karelians and Samí in genetics. Bigger than germans and poles, and many other middle-European people regardless of language or ethnicity. And R1 does exist in Finns and other north-Europeans.
Dorgye 1 year ago
@Dorgye @Dorgye So you're saying the Finns ARE Germans?
yDNA and mDNA are much easier to trace and compare than anything else. If there were a big difference, maybe the Sami stole women from the Swedes and the Karelians didn't.
Finns have at least 60% N, and at most 30% I and 10%r1. Sami are almost half N, as are Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians, Mari, and northern Russians in general. I'd be surprised if Karelia weren't.
The N haplogroup started in Asia and moved west through Siberia.
kozmon0t 1 year ago
and Belgian Fleming people, we are most propably Germanic by now.
Because our traits are so different when they're compared to sámi, hungarians and some other Finno-Ugric people, it makes perfect sense that we're just swedes who speak Finnish.
Dorgye 1 year ago
@Dorgye i'm flemish ,a nd flemish is a germanic language , but I look like a sami haha
wolfman19892 1 year ago
Finnish history is almost impossible to explore, since during ??-1800's everyone just thought that we are swedes, and 1800-1900 everyone thought that we were Russian. Nobody even thought about it, just a few people thought that we were mongolians in the early 1900's.
Butbut, since blonde hair and blue eyes are a germanic trait, and over 70% of the Finns have light hair and 90% have blue eyes, present-day Finns certainly aren't from Asia. Also, our genes and DNA stuff are most close to Swedish,
Dorgye 1 year ago
@Dorgye
Finnish genes are more european than normal european being 90% european and 10% siberian, almost all other europeans have near-eastern and sub-saharan genes that 10%. Finns also worlds most light eyed, blond and top 3 tallest people, thats perfect european look. type "Finns" on wikipedia or other sources to get facts.
olkihattu 1 year ago
@olkihattu
It depends from where has the gene researching been done, like I just said, western and eastern Finns have bigger gene differences than middle-Europeans, germans and poles for example. This "perfect european look" is a GERMANIC trait, and the reason why Finns have that, is because of germanic people emigrating into Finland, like I just mentioned the swedes. East Finns/Karelians are from Siberia, west Finns descend from germanic people.
Dorgye 1 year ago
@Dorgye
whole Finland was included. According to recent autosomal (genomewide, 10,000 markers instead of few looked at Y-DNA and MtDNA-studies) give distinct picture of Finnish genes. And no western Finns are not "descendants of swedes" they came like 2000 year ago with same wave than all germanic people to scandinavia/fennoscandinavia with I1 haplogroup which is higher in western and southwestern Finland than anywhere in a world. East Finns are more like estonians. samis are siberian.
olkihattu 1 year ago
but nowadays many finnish people have roots from sweden. Like myself. my great grandfather was a swede but he moved to finland
Sephirot1994 1 year ago
Hmmm, interesting. But, please make a better visual solution. it' would be so much better and readable if you found another background, and maybe a bolder font.
Fonetiker 1 year ago
Very good and informative video!
14WordsFinland 1 year ago
then ative europeans were the finn-magyars, and the ancestors of scythians!
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
sens it dates back very far to...dosnt matter who was there first...they still have a history there..otherwise thinking like that u should walk back to africa and claim some tree that your ansestor climbed down from and start grunting like a monkey
sejdaren 1 year ago
im half swedish half finnish and im proud of my finnish heritage because i like its people...i think its good if reshersing history can avoid to include alot of nationalistic ideas about a glorius past....this misstake most of europe did in 1800s....would be good if u dont do the same now....and keep in mind that many things that are speculated about..are teoris...and the claim that swedish speaking population in finland shouldnt care about their swedish culture or laungish is stupid...
sejdaren 1 year ago
The blue text against the ocean water makes it hard to read!
HaleyMary 1 year ago
Long live Sweden and Finnland <33
xganger2 1 year ago
the Finno-Ugric are related to the Turkish tribes and so are the Hungarians, Bulgarians, Tajiks, Uzbeks, Seljuks, Latvians, Estonians, Cossack, Khazars, Kazaks, Ucranians, Kievans, and they are related to the Mongols, in other words the Turks are a mixture of Europeans with Mongols.
Schwarzkald 1 year ago
Finno ugric unite!Hungary-Finland-Estonia!Love to all sisters and brothers!
Irispepe 1 year ago
Are sou stupid? Language is not a race.
Finns belong to a genetic group of their own. Acording to a new wide-ranging genetic mapping study, Finns differ from central Europeans as well as from their neihbours in the east.
The study also found that the Finnish genetic pool does not resemble that of the closest linguistic group, the Hubgarians, but shares more commonalities with the Dutch.
aylgir 1 year ago
@aylgir ...Genetic variations among Finns can be traced back to location for eastern, western and northern communities. the genetic differences become larger the bigger the distance between communities. Similarly, coastal dwelling Swedish-speaking finns show more genetic similarities to swedes than they do to other Finns.
aylgir 1 year ago
We should all return to our pagan Turkic roots
IdelUralState 1 year ago
Nice video! BUT current Finns aren't that Finns who came. Please, take it like fact, not a gossip etc. Finns are from 3/4 influenced by Sweds, Russians etc.
It's like in C. Europe with Hungarians, who are influenced by Slavs. But these nations aren't alone. I'm Czech, we are supposed to be Slavs. We speak the most difficult Slavic language etc. but when our forefathers came to C. Europe, they stayed here with Celtic so now we have Slavic-celtic origin. In Europe there's no clear person.
radikborov 1 year ago
suomi or finnish people are aborigins in their home.
the miggration happened after ice age from carpathians, and the mixing happened with siberian reindeer hunters, it is our common thing in the past. magyars never lived next to ural, we have not uralic dna.
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
anteeksi etten tiedä että mitä pahaa olisi jos meissä olisi mongoolien geenejä?
Dikkiheadi 1 year ago 2
Hungarians and Finns are 40000 year old Europeans :) the Finns miggrated 8000 ago into Scandinavia. The Hungarians miggrated into Near Eastern and Altayan territories and mixed and came back as Scythians,Huns,Magyars.
plzrm 1 year ago
@plzrm
saami or lapp too.
hungarians are aborigin carpathians people our specially runes on 7000 year olds tablettso f tatárlaka or blau monuments from mezopotamia- look british museum!
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
The thing is that finns are in large extent more swedes than swedes are finns. Think about it. Historians agree that the russian foudners were swedes. "Ruser. "Routsi" in Finland from an area called "roslagen". Finns are of mongol origin, talkign about native finns and not today finns that is of mixed mongol-swedish genes. Native finns = mongol races. BTW, it must hurt knowing that you capital was invented by a swedish King and you were a swedish vassal for so long. identity crisis much.
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
and your mother was a gypsy from india indoeuropean monkey! lie! agree with me? gypsy language is indo, but why? becouse the primitives stole from rulers! finnish, and hungarian runes have 7200 year old origin! oopps, my swedish aryan viking fking hero:d you stole from finns the runes! give back!
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
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Nope,you're lying because you're a nutcase, everybody can teel, most be yourmongol genes, go read some real dna studies dumbass. The finns were way to primitive, that's why their capital was invented by a swedish king, A SWEDISH KING! What a shame!
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
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Every race has been some kinda gypsies, your a deluded berlinnazi, the only europeans are the neanderthales, every homo sapien is a gypsie, however some (like you) more than others, finnish people are mongols, I rather be a gypsie than a mongol like your race and finnish people!you're the bottom of the list! Go fuck your ugly eye women! Mongol!
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
Well you took that one pretty well... Real Indo-Europeans are gypsies... but your or my ancestors arent. -10 000 years ago most of Northern and Eastern Europe was populated by white people speaking Finno-Ugric languages. 80% of white Europeans, including Russians and white North Americans, are descendants of these people. You should forget your "gypsy" IE ancestors and start to focus on your real roots...
0finlander0 1 year ago
genetically you dont have that much genetic relation to those indo-european farmers who came from kurgan culture area. but your language changed. or actually it got infuences from Indo-European languages. Language of the newcomers replaced the older languages but changed under their influence into the Proto-Germanic, Slavonic and baltic languages. north- and middle-europeans are still almost as same as back then. south europeans are indo-europeans...or descents of Franco-Cantabrian lang.
0finlander0 1 year ago
@0finlander0
Great mistake indo europeans were not gypsies,they were ultra warlike peoples,that destroyed/assimilated Mesolithic Europe,populated until then,by pre nordics/basques/danubians(Haplogroup I,and R1b only in the basque case) siberians (N1c) and balkanics(E1b1b1a2).
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood You are wrong, the Gypsies are Indo-Europeans, they are called the Roma people and they came straight out of northern India the motherland of the Indo-European language, and that's why they're nomadic just like the Indo-Europeans use to be. the oldest Indo- European language is Sanskrit from India and Avestan from Iran.
Schwarzkald 1 year ago
@Schwarzkald
They came from northern India 4000 years later,when most indo europeans had already departed,they speak a indo aryan language,derivate from previous aryan languages left there,and spoken by other indian populations,most distant to indo europeans,Roma are genetically closer to Indians than to european populations.
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StellandBlood 1 year ago
Now lets forget the Mongol word... for now. for you swedes its like a swear word. So in old-europe there where to clear language-groups. Finno-Ugric speaking hunters and Franco-Cantabrian language group (Basques..) they populated southern/western-europe. Finno-Ugric speakears northern-Eastern europe and middle-europe.
0finlander0 1 year ago
@0finlander0 finn-ugor nothing to do with the hungarians!!! this is fake history! the habsburgs made this up that the magyars are fiin-ugric family!! the habsburgs they made a law that the hungarians can't look for there roots in asia! and after the funk'in communist came! now they are finding out that we are not finn-ugor family! we have family in kazastan they called madjar
TheJapansanyi 1 year ago
@TheJapansanyi LoL, Genetic closeness clearly follows geographic distance more closely than linguistic distance
FirbenStrid 1 year ago
@ZulcaCarpathius Surely if finns would have used runes there would have been found some evidence. So far i've heard none.
jaskamakkara 1 year ago
@jaskamakkara
its not my problem visit this michelangelo . cn
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
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@ZulcaCarpathius You can't trust everything you read on the internet.
jaskamakkara 1 year ago
indoeuropean lie, are you from sweden, swedish ancient ydna is I1, from 22 000 year old I !
and the indoeuropean lie, say in bc 3000 came the indos!
lie!
LIE!
finnsh mostly siberians, we magyars are mostly steppics, the language and runes are similars, but i dont understad finn,saami or estonian languages.
the hungarian common people was carpathian, these miggrators gove the language to finns! it was the contact, finns have magyar dna, but we havent finnish!
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
finns have past and future, the most ancient civilization of eu, point ,and very kidding tales abour siberofishfuckers are a wrong,fake shits! thak you, it was m opinion!
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babubugi 1 year ago
Its funny to witness this urge (BTW by many ethnicities) to legitimize their Euopeaness its ludicrous & unnecessary
u should be proud of yourselves as u r although u speak a non IE language
Finns have 58% of N1c1 haplgr so what?
Indeed the Basques (of course blended genetically with all the surrounding pple)r the only survived ethnicity in europe prior to the spread of IE speakers
real mystery y only the Basque language survived amidst a roman ocean?
kajro57 2 years ago
finns common people is siberian, but ruler class from central eu, the ruler class spoken in uralic!
hungarians these central european farmers now, under scytho-hunnic rulers!
ZulcaCarpathius 2 years ago
Siberian origin of Sami, Estonian, Finnish predecessors check
Hungarians were nomads who btw kept their native language check
the uralic speaking rulers from central europe? u just revolutionized linguistics!
are u relative of Urho Kekkonen :-)
how do u identify those rulers?
kajro57 1 year ago
ahhaa very kidding knowledge my young friend!
finns from central eu magyars too, read a books please from vinca,kurgan,trypillia cultures, the flavio peoples. nomads hahahahha and who made by tatarian tabletts from transylvania with ungarofinnic runes? the aliens? the indioverywhiteeuropeans? or others? these scripts are 7200 year olda! the finns, the estonians, the lives, the udmurts, are the most ancient civilizations on the word! and the hungarians too!
ZulcaCarpathius 1 year ago
Are you a retard? Finns are also indoeuropeans, however later they mixed with some mongols who ALSO THEY are from indian regions, rather be a indeuropean than a mongol horsemolester.
Imhornydadcomeinside 1 year ago
"rather be a indeuropean than a mongol horsemolester. " i rather be Cro-Magnon than gupsy indo-european. Cro-magnons are original European peoples. Early modern human race. The Cro-Magnon term falls outside the usual naming conventions for early humans and is often used in a general sense to describe the oldest modern people in Europe.
0finlander0 1 year ago
Cro-Magnon were anatomically modern, only differing from their modern day descendants in Europe by their more robust physiology and slightly larger cranial capacity. Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements. And that is everything else than mongol... we have noble ancestors. Its great honour to me be a descendant to greatest human race that has ever walked on earth. We are sons of the mammoth hunters.
0finlander0 1 year ago
Basques have the same ethnicity of the "maykops",they were part of a earlier migration to Europe from the caucasus.
There are some ethnicities,that survived the expansion of the IE peoples,the main ones according to Y DNA, are the Scandinavians/Sardinians,haplogroups (I1, I2a)
Like the basques they live in isolated areas of difficult access and harsh conditions.
Despite they also couldn´t escape mixing and cultural assimilation by the IE peoples.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
so where do i a swiss-nord-spanish caucasian living in aragon ES fit in this? And the finnish? they are finished ? huhu
elyurita 1 year ago
Kelts and Basques in North Iberia were never romanized,they were able to resist,North Iberia was/is a area of valleys,with plains suitable for farming,and with high mountains,which provided them enough agricultural and metallurgical productivity,and also isolation from the exterior.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
to assume that hiding history was the ''bättre folks'' idea to save their own nobility without any evidence instantly shows how guided by his emotions the maker of this might be. Yes i do know that very often germanics were enobled without reason, you only have to look at some old paintings of vikings to understand this huge romantization. It's not fair how they portray themselves beutiful and brave while everyone else is a stinking bum and the world shares their vision, it's a germanic world.
jaskamakkara 2 years ago 5
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Guess the finns in Sweden were killed off by the Stronger Germanic clans then.
SvitjodsKrigare 2 years ago
Partially, yes.
-It's still under investigation/study, but it was clear that Proto-Germanic were more numerous than `possible´ Finnic tribe in modern era Sweden.
-I can't say for certain, because at least I have not found new information indicating that indiginous people of Sweden were indeed Finnic.
-We don't know yet.
And not killed off.
Indo-European expansion saw mixing of kinships rather than killing.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago 2
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Offcourse theres no proof, This was what 10.000years ago? when the first Germanics came to scandinavia, They didn't bother whriting things down, And most valuble items have long rotted away..
And Indo-Europeans did not naturally mix whit kinship, The Pre-Indo europeans the Cro-Magnus killed every neandertal off in europe, And there is evidence pointing to fighting between Germanic peoples and others, Such as the Slavic.
SvitjodsKrigare 2 years ago
Germanics did not come to Scandinavia, but they did leave from there.
It was the Indo-European Proto-Germanics who did came, and that migration wave begun there about 4000 B.C.
-People who eventually became the Germanics had a long way to go, and thus their arrival to the North was way later than this 4000 B.C.
There was no literacy then, so your point about literacy is out of place and humorous at best.
Funny how little you seem to know about your own kinships past.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago 4
The Pre Indo-Europeans WERE the Cro-Magnon people.
These both were Homo Sapiens Sapiens, while as Neanderthal-people were of different human race.
The Genetic research clearly indicates that there are Proto-Finnic genetics within all Indo-Europeans, there are no Indo-European genetics within us.
-Thus, mixing with the indigenous and newcomers did take place.
Slav Expansion came few millenia later than Indo-European expasion...
It's clear that you have some reading to do.
ArmaFennica 2 years ago 3
stronger germanic?? you are amusing.
zzzzzzz114 2 years ago 7
Perkeleen komia video.
Vielä ku teet jonku kunnon dokumentin näistä kaikista sun videoista ja myyt jolleki ylelle tai maikkarille
ni saatais kaiken kansan tietoon että ketä tässä ihan oikeesti ollaa.
Keep up the good work :)
VitunPaskaNikki 2 years ago 3
Oivia valintoja käyttää Immediate Musicin Electric Romeota että vanhaa kunnon Lux Aeternaa. (keskimmäistä en muista millään, sanoisitko mikä olikaan kappaleen nimi?)
5/5, hyvä video
MythicSJK 2 years ago
kappaleen nimi on vissiin ihan vaan Escape ja esittäjä on Craig Armstrong.
0finlander0 2 years ago
Wikipedia: Finns are genetic isolate. Of modern nationalities, Finns are closest to Cro-Magnons in terms of anthropological measurements. All other Europeans have Finnish genes but Finns don't have all the genes found in other Europeans. More than 80% of Finnish genes are from single ancient North-European population. Almost 10% Finnish genes seem to be shared with some Siberian populations.
sutkitutka 2 years ago 12
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sutkitutka 2 years ago
Hey interesting video.
i am swedish, but I don't like the swedish nationalism in West Finland. If they really want to preserve swedish culture and values they should return to Sweden.
Finland for the finnish people.
Gogaligyx 2 years ago 52
I understand what you mean but I think that the swedish speaking minority in Finland have their right to speak swedish (their mother tongue) if they want to....just like we FInns in Sweden have a right to speak FInnish in Sweden....
pirunvasara666 2 years ago
@Gogaligyx Sweden should return everything what it has stolen from finns => Sweden as a country doesn't exist. Sweden has broken Treaty of Hamina etc etc.
ButcherWing 1 year ago
@ButcherWing Painu kommari vittuun täältä jorinoidesi kanssa!
ButcherWing is communist idiot and everyone knows what they are.
aylgir 1 year ago
@Gogaligyx Russians in Estonia must do same :)
EstoniaANTICOMMUNIST 1 year ago
@Gogaligyx atleast swedish people are germanic so the are european why you finnish dont go back to mongolia
ruudjuh16 1 year ago
@ruudjuh16 Where germanic people are from? Are you seriously saying that they have always been in Europe? Who was before in Europe, finno-ugric or germanic tribes? If you reply. Use actual data with resources. You are a joke. By the way, the mongol index of norwegian people is much higher than finnish, for example ( I can prove my saying). So go and put that mongol nonsense where the Sun won't shine, please.
tupakki 1 year ago
@Gogaligyx I totally agree.
I hate western finland, i love eatern finland.
Easyway1 1 year ago
@Gogaligyx
I think that there is no anything "swedish nationalism" in West Finland, only some stupid and outdated swedish-speaking finns who think themselves too much. That's all.
14WordsFinland 1 year ago
@Gogaligyx I'm a Finnish speaking Finn and totally disagree. Swedish speakers have every right to live here and speak their language in the areas they have lived for several centuries. The populations are in effect quite mixed and language of some 'families' changed maybe several times. These people in general identify themselves as Finns not Swedes despite the language.
What is the right level of minority protection is of course a valid topic but moving abroad is not an option.
EneriGiilaan 11 months ago
@Gogaligyx Oddly in that case is the lack of nationalism of Swedes in Sweden itself. Finland is wonderful country and so are Finns great people, and so too Swedes. They should both be nationalists in their own lands and support the other to be so in theirs. Both also need to resist the tide of migration fromt he 3rd world that threatens the national identity of both Finns and to a much greater extent Sweden. Swedes and Finns have much more in common to each other than either to africans or arab.
FarFromEquilibrium 10 months ago
@Gogaligyx That's a great attitude!!! :) That's what I think too,nice to see a swede who really supports Finnish culture!
Principal16 9 months ago
Hyvä video, jatko-osaa ootellessa...
jetize 2 years ago 4
Great video. Thanks for uploading it.
MembThePenguin 2 years ago 2
Erinomaisen hyvä video!!
finnfellow 2 years ago 4
kiitoksia :)
0finlander0 2 years ago
Good work finlander. Finnish history has been denied by swedish and russians. Today its very hard to research it becouse all history in Finland is written by swedish. This is good attemp to explore it.
civ81 2 years ago 33
@civ81Finnish history has been denied only by Swedish. Without Russia there would not be Finland nor finns.
ButcherWing 1 year ago
if you peoples know any good music. then tell me what to use in next video :P im out of ideas now after this.
0finlander0 2 years ago
selvä! koita parantaa sitä vähän muuten tärkee tieto voi mennä hukkaan...
pirunvasara666 2 years ago 6
hei muista kattoa sitten aina HQ:lla. unohdin sanoa. se vaikuttaa tekstiin eniten. turha tätä on alkaa pikku screeniltä kattoon. et saa mitään selvää välttämättä. tai katso koko näytöllä vaihtoehtoisesti. mutta toi times new roman ei vaikuta olevan paras mahdollinen fontti... muistan yhden paksu tekstisen fontin... vois kokeilla ja kattoa miltä näyttää.
0finlander0 2 years ago
Selvä! Täytyy yrittää sillä tavalla.
pirunvasara666 2 years ago
Wow :) Thats very cool :) I'm adding this
to my playlist relating to my favorite European nations :) Send me parts 2, 3, and 4 when you have uploaded them :)
Hungary will always be with Finland :)
Long live our brotherhood :)
gumby118 2 years ago 3
thanks :) and yes. i will. it might take long time when i upload next video.. or next week- idk yet. depends about time. but my plan is to make 4 video serie.
0finlander0 2 years ago
Your welcome :)
gumby118 2 years ago
Hieno video :)
jetize 2 years ago 2
kiitos :)
0finlander0 2 years ago
...good video but the text is really hard to read! Keep up the good work Finlander....
pirunvasara666 2 years ago
thanks piru. yes. text is little blurry... its the crappy wmm.. (movie maker) vaikee saaha sitä laatua hyväks... ellen mä sitte kylmästi lisää tiedostokokoa kunnolla. ja tota teksti tyyppiä ja väriä pitäis miettiä. sellai mahollisimman selkee.
0finlander0 2 years ago