Ok, I've said once on another video and I'll say it again, this is bullshit. I'm going through my favorites list and find two old gems, probably some of the first ten videos I favorited, and I find some of the ol' Youtube classics have this copyright claim on em,(The other one being an awesome halo 2 machinima placed to Saving Private Ryan audio, or as of now, was placed to audio) Anyways, this video is ancient when compared to Youtube, but one thirty second clip of a song mutes a ten video?
Might I ask what the fuck is the point of keeping the video with no audio? I'm not encouraging this bullshit, but what the fuck are they doing? Maybe remove the video while they're at it eh? Or better yet, fuck off and let people enjoy the fucking vids
pure delight and great effects and if you go elsewhere there is sound. but we all know the bad boys theme so we can score it ourselves. thank you mister rubio - it's a gem!
pure delight and great effects and if you go elswhere there is sound. but we all know the bad boys theme so we can score it ourselves. thank you mister rubio - it's a gem!
well this video is ruined. shame, it was pretty funny. I guess Warner was concerned that someone might actually hear a song played by Inner Circle. As a music company, they have to be careful no one ever hears the songs they produce
Myopic morons! WMG is a joke! Who the fuck are you protecting? Does anyone actually believe that the "composer(s)" (and I use that term loosely) of "Bad Boys" give a damn about a YouTube video, which not only does NOT steal any potential revenue from them, but actually only serves to keep that irratingly vapid song continually in the common consciousness?
This doesn't even make any fucking sense whatsoever since the use of "bad boys" here is covered under the parody criteria of the fair use doctrine in U.S. copyright law.
WMG, you are violating the 1st Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America. Failure to enable the audio of this sound track will result in a direct law suit from the people of the United States of America for overstepping the boundries of our given liberties. Furthermore, any and all sentiments given in this message are hereby enforced with the full effect of my Constitutional right to demand audio for this particular video under our right to free speech.
Fucking copyright fags. Who's massive bank accounts are being harmed by someone using the Cops theme in a funny Youtube video anyway? I mean, it's not like they're uploading anime or episodes of things, are they?
This video has been out for YEARS, and just now it is somehow wrong to have a parody show just because of a minute or so of soundtrack? It only plays at the beginning and end of the vid, for Christs sake!
we're just going to have to start summarily executing all music executives. they are scum of the earth. they are an absolute evil. this kind of crap MUST END. so must their lives.
Its most likely a new form of censorship to drive people away from free sources of information such as youtube.. "Music legal rights" is just the beginning.
It should be illegal; it's no better than the Spanish Inquisition suppressing the distribution of books.
But unfortunately, it is not illegal. Which is why they are allowed to bully Google (YouTube) into removing the soundtrack. So glad I downloaded this before they removed the sound >:(
If this disabled audio shit keeps up, youtube is gonna fold because people are gonna quit posting vids and stop visiting the site. Someone please explain what harm there is in using someone's copyrighted work if you're not trying to make money or advertise something?
Holy ghost, my sweet audio! This video is amazing. I'm going to arm myself with bottles containing petrol and find these people. Mr. Molotov will have his day.
Idiots! Everyone and their dog uses that "Bad Boys" song for their videos! Why would you take this one down? Is it because you dicks over at WMG have never had a girlfriend?
Hate to break it to you idiots at WMG, but this video is over 10 years old. So not only are you a bunch of idiots, but you just proved to all of us that you are over 10 years out of touch. Get a grip on reality WMG...the universe has passed you by, and we really don't care about you. Have a nice life, because we don't care.
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!! I saw this movie before and thought it was hilarious. But someone had to go and bitch about the tracks, and now it has no sound. Thats gay WMG, really GAY!
This is so funny iv seen this hundred of times, really good. you should see what crap now of days they put on now but this is really is 10000000000/10 i love it when breu (sorry if its wrong spelling) hold a thermal detonator and kills owen and the farm that really tells u what happen in a funny way.
Very good vid, this is about what really happened while luke was away from home meeting Obi-Wan Kenobi with the "stolen droids" (yes, they are talking about C3PO and R2-D2), so good history
The only thing that is off on this is the Stormtrooper with sniper-shot aim. Everyone knows Star Wars troops couldn't hit a barn if they were standing one foot from a wall.
read Don't laugh at this! Just do it Start thinking something you really really want cause this is astounding the person that sent this to me said their wish came true 10 mins after they read the mail so I thought what the heck You have just been visited by DrSuess's Cat in the Hat. He will grant you one wish Make your wish when the count down is over 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 MAKE A WISH Send this to 10 videos within the hour you read this. If you do, your wish will come true
thats awesome, plus everyone. and i mean EVERYONE wants to own some of those star wars kits? i mean its a bit nerdy but come on, everyone wants one at heart. theyre just too cool?
they should have made a TROOPS TV Show
MrGearsOfWar96 2 months ago
thats great, män !!!
hahahahahaha...very funny
SuperAntihuman 4 months ago in playlist Star Wars Fan Films
wish they would do a new one this is just to funny
theace 6 months ago
WTF!! Do You Think you rule the world,Google.Just Blocking shit for the hell of it
RainbowNukes 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Head on down to Google Video folks. They know what's what.
papertowel17 8 months ago
WTF!! IT WASN't COPYRIGHTED YESTERDAY!?? I--- CMON THIS VID IS SO AWESOME
ProductionsHead 8 months ago
God fucking damn it why would they ruin this. Fucking C*^ts.
bodylesspajamas 8 months ago
audio????
Allanlegacy43 8 months ago
Just came back to watch this video only to find it emasculated by corporate drones.
mojoburger 8 months ago
Ok, I've said once on another video and I'll say it again, this is bullshit. I'm going through my favorites list and find two old gems, probably some of the first ten videos I favorited, and I find some of the ol' Youtube classics have this copyright claim on em,(The other one being an awesome halo 2 machinima placed to Saving Private Ryan audio, or as of now, was placed to audio) Anyways, this video is ancient when compared to Youtube, but one thirty second clip of a song mutes a ten video?
sk7ch 9 months ago
This video has been around since 2002 and you copyright douche police hate on this vid? Shame on you! Music copyright is out of control on youtube!!!
DB742 1 year ago
Might I ask what the fuck is the point of keeping the video with no audio? I'm not encouraging this bullshit, but what the fuck are they doing? Maybe remove the video while they're at it eh? Or better yet, fuck off and let people enjoy the fucking vids
ledzeprulz1234 1 year ago 4
Original dialogue is unauthorized? WMG is full of morons.
slcpetit 1 year ago
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pure delight and great effects and if you go elsewhere there is sound. but we all know the bad boys theme so we can score it ourselves. thank you mister rubio - it's a gem!
karmichange 1 year ago
pure delight and great effects and if you go elswhere there is sound. but we all know the bad boys theme so we can score it ourselves. thank you mister rubio - it's a gem!
karmichange 1 year ago
That Sucks that your audio was cut, it looks like an awesome Star Wars fan video.
Captaindarkfire 1 year ago
Stupid you tube ... no wonder all in germany leave it ..no audio track for us ... here.
TubestarCommand 1 year ago
um...How about the people at You Tube and WMG read the "Fair Use" clauses in the copyright laws!
kmardis 1 year ago 2
well this video is ruined. shame, it was pretty funny. I guess Warner was concerned that someone might actually hear a song played by Inner Circle. As a music company, they have to be careful no one ever hears the songs they produce
capodan76 1 year ago 3
Seriously? WMG? You fucking muted the audio to the whole video because of a 30 second intro? FUCK WMG!
Badhabitsjay 1 year ago 3
Oh GOD!
I'm SOOO fooking glad you removed the Themes Song From COPS!
If I'd heard it, the main and ONLY reason I clicked on this video, I might have turned to a life of larger and larger crime!!!
THANK YOU WMG! THANK YOU!!!!
We're
Moronic
Goatfukkers
ROOKTABULA 1 year ago 3
Wtf
Motherfucks
Good job ruining it,bitch
luigifan07 1 year ago
You have to be kidding me! This video has been available on the web for ten years or more! Why remove the audio? Absolutely outrageous!
ShawnML2 1 year ago
Myopic morons! WMG is a joke! Who the fuck are you protecting? Does anyone actually believe that the "composer(s)" (and I use that term loosely) of "Bad Boys" give a damn about a YouTube video, which not only does NOT steal any potential revenue from them, but actually only serves to keep that irratingly vapid song continually in the common consciousness?
billmills 1 year ago 4
Why do they even try to censor this stuff. I found a working vid in about 3 seconds with google. Fuck you WMG
optimusmafia 1 year ago
Fuck WMG up its fat ass!
redtrek524 1 year ago
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Lady Gaga received an honor, that she had sold 8 million copies of The Fame album - Naked Lady Gaga. C0000M -
upstaterhijrs 1 year ago
FUCK YOU WMG Hope you all dies.. This video is so classic and you ruined it ..........
MrTotallyOMFG 1 year ago 2
WMG – chuj wam w dupę! (Put yourselves a dick in the ass!)
wysmiewisko 1 year ago
Fuck youtube for doing this to this video.
Dragusssss 1 year ago
This doesn't even make any fucking sense whatsoever since the use of "bad boys" here is covered under the parody criteria of the fair use doctrine in U.S. copyright law.
Wafflepudding 1 year ago
Agree, WMG hmm.. An office of some 30 something as*holes who can not take a joke...
Jjdarkwater 1 year ago
Man what the fuck, I just wanted to see this vid and relax, but then the fuckin WMG. sums bitches.
spidey676 1 year ago
Glad I downloaded this video years ago...
TrioChaosWolves 1 year ago
@TrioChaosWolves
Hell yeah, me too.
AlexSDU 1 year ago
OMFG WMG, way to insure that we never buy your music. Dicks.
ClanEndless 1 year ago
Dude this sucks I'm sorry this happend I'm willing to bet this was your baby huh?
Herobrandon 1 year ago
wow, way to ruin something great by greed.
HotnutsJesus 1 year ago 6
wow, way to ruin something great by greed.
HotnutsJesus 1 year ago
counter the copyright, SickHeretic
WMG epic fail this bad ass epic win film
rogelioVela1985 1 year ago
WMG, you are violating the 1st Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America. Failure to enable the audio of this sound track will result in a direct law suit from the people of the United States of America for overstepping the boundries of our given liberties. Furthermore, any and all sentiments given in this message are hereby enforced with the full effect of my Constitutional right to demand audio for this particular video under our right to free speech.
Crackmandan 1 year ago 5
ENABLE THE FUCKING AUDIO...man. Seriously...shit's getting retarded. I'm not bitching at you, Heretic...it's these youtube morons.
mxmike458 1 year ago 2
i know how you can get the audio back no problem...
sparton1199 1 year ago
YouTube got worst ever since Google took over... Copyright my ass!
LilNyu 1 year ago 8
Fix this man! I love this video. There is a way around this WMG BS! Search for it on YouTube. It does work. I wanna watch this one again man!!
drwynn 2 years ago 2
WMG FAIL
JohnnyMidnight1 2 years ago 2
Fucking copyright fags. Who's massive bank accounts are being harmed by someone using the Cops theme in a funny Youtube video anyway? I mean, it's not like they're uploading anime or episodes of things, are they?
WarriorOfAsgard 2 years ago 8
bye bye youtube, you suck, together with your WMG idiots...
dolph999 2 years ago 59
what about the fair use?
youtube and WMG motherfuckas!!!
Vesaliuz 2 years ago 7
Fuck this copy right not approved shit and fuck WMG for ruining the video. and stupid ass youtube for letting them do this shit fuck u all
ZOMBIEAC101 2 years ago 3
Yeah. It was funnier WITH the Cops theme.
dixievfd55 2 years ago
Yeah ! Fuck WMG !
Sparta09876 2 years ago
This video has been out for YEARS, and just now it is somehow wrong to have a parody show just because of a minute or so of soundtrack? It only plays at the beginning and end of the vid, for Christs sake!
vwguy101 2 years ago
This is BS this is clearly a parody of COPS the sound should have been left alone!
DragonLordKris 2 years ago 5
This has been flagged as spam show
Can someone send me one?
runescapeminingfreak 2 years ago
Gee, what a bunch of stupid, obnoxious dicks! I'm certainly avoiding anything put out by WMG. What a bunch of assholes!
EvilTube2007 2 years ago 2
any 1 know how 2 get a copy with the sound trak???????
dvx3700 2 years ago
we're just going to have to start summarily executing all music executives. they are scum of the earth. they are an absolute evil. this kind of crap MUST END. so must their lives.
happyguy49 2 years ago 6
HERE HERE! *grabs guns*
darthmars1 2 years ago
Shit this clip has been out almost as long as cops has been on the air. give me a freaking break. buttheads!
totlich 2 years ago
YEAH IKR!!!!!! Dammit. This vid has been on for YEARS! what fucking difference does it make it they remove the audio now????!!!!!!!!!
kommoto 2 years ago
Its most likely a new form of censorship to drive people away from free sources of information such as youtube.. "Music legal rights" is just the beginning.
thrashkill666 2 years ago
COCK FUCKING WMG'S
Galatasaryfan 2 years ago 3
GOD DAMN IT
I hate those WMG bastards.
Lets hope the person in charge of them chokes on an apple or something..lol
Doctoroo2 2 years ago 4
10 minutes of quality youtube entertainment completely ruined by the fucking world music group.
Vykrel 2 years ago 17
May swift death come to WMG. Talk about stifling the creativity of our civilization.
jacketman22 2 years ago 7
Yeah isn't this illegal? We all have rights to do thins like this as long as we're not plagiarizing and selling it as if was our own.
kommoto 2 years ago
It should be illegal; it's no better than the Spanish Inquisition suppressing the distribution of books.
But unfortunately, it is not illegal. Which is why they are allowed to bully Google (YouTube) into removing the soundtrack. So glad I downloaded this before they removed the sound >:(
jacketman22 2 years ago
fuck wmg
ttttttyttt 2 years ago 7
All this WMG BULL is going to kill You Tube, and
all the investors are going to lose their money,
and the people will lose more faith in corporate
rules, and I for one, am losing faith in the Masonic Lodge, Knights of the Templar, and
the Government. With all this WMG garbage,
why do we put up with this? Is that Robot
from "I, Robot" Vickee ruling us already? I am
ashamed of You Tube now! *SIGH* Good
thing I am TOO POOR to afford to pay any
attention. :(
lawnmowermanTX 2 years ago 6
damn straight!! that was a solid rant! :D
suckamsears 2 years ago 2
I also wonder, how many lawyers who are
subscribers can see this WMG 'crap' a legal
violation, and also fraudulent breach of the
agreement that removing audio without any
kind of permission or consent may result in any form of legal action? I say "SUE WMG,
and SUE YOU TUBE!!" I'm too poor to get a
good lawyer... Pray for my financial blessing. :)
lawnmowermanTX 2 years ago
this WMG copyrighting is really starting to piss me off. this is the 10th video i have watched in an hour without sound because of WMG
jenglepilot 2 years ago 7
Audio disabled? Wow ...
skyflashing 2 years ago 2
i fucking hate youtube!!!!!!!!
systemofadown1fan 2 years ago 3
Youtube sucks
mjevsrsh 2 years ago 4
Mr. Grenade is not their friend anymore.
Zhedajnajt32 2 years ago
If this disabled audio shit keeps up, youtube is gonna fold because people are gonna quit posting vids and stop visiting the site. Someone please explain what harm there is in using someone's copyrighted work if you're not trying to make money or advertise something?
gorn9146 2 years ago 5
You could even consider free publicity. But WMG doesn't realize that.
Demonsimon2 2 years ago 9
wtf stop stealin our audio mothafuckas, you have made a very powerless enemy as of today
xxrookyxx 2 years ago 3
WMG can go.....
Organdonator 2 years ago 4
Screw you, WMG.
ecchipiro 2 years ago 5
george lucas can gargle my sac
shaneclasby 2 years ago
Oh come on, ever heard of free advertising?!
AcesHigh2007 2 years ago 2
Holy ghost, my sweet audio! This video is amazing. I'm going to arm myself with bottles containing petrol and find these people. Mr. Molotov will have his day.
DIMS
DeadInMySights 2 years ago 5
COCK!
PurplePanda1233 2 years ago
F YOU WARNER
spikesan 2 years ago 3
WMG sucka' the cocks!
pockmarkedbuttocks 2 years ago 5
WMG can suck dicks.
Zingo33 2 years ago 11
Idiots! Everyone and their dog uses that "Bad Boys" song for their videos! Why would you take this one down? Is it because you dicks over at WMG have never had a girlfriend?
LordDragonClaw42 2 years ago 11
Wiat WTF!?
The soundtrack to this vid has been removed huh. FUCK! -_-
confidential007 2 years ago 7
u gotta b fucking kidding me stupid WMG >__>
darkmega1000 2 years ago 11
youtube become asshole, coward and stupid
gatosombra 2 years ago 8
WMG can burn in fucking hell!
TheDisco14 2 years ago 13
You "saw" we boycott them lmao
nnuuhhyy 2 years ago 2
why do they fucking do this, i saw we boycott warner for this crap
stuga 2 years ago 9
Hate to break it to you idiots at WMG, but this video is over 10 years old. So not only are you a bunch of idiots, but you just proved to all of us that you are over 10 years out of touch. Get a grip on reality WMG...the universe has passed you by, and we really don't care about you. Have a nice life, because we don't care.
Nebulafox 2 years ago 90
THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!! I saw this movie before and thought it was hilarious. But someone had to go and bitch about the tracks, and now it has no sound. Thats gay WMG, really GAY!
OnimushaAkira 2 years ago 10
"All suspects are guilty PERIOD.otherwise they woulden't be guilty"lol
EDEDDEDDY8 2 years ago
I think this was the film that started the Star Wars fan video movement, and it was done pretty well lol.
Geckogold 2 years ago 2
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!I wish there was more!!
whybothertobemean 2 years ago
"Damn shame....yep..damn shame." LMAO
rtds9fan 2 years ago
he aint from tatooine he's from the upper peninsula of michigan...
sandwaterandsun 2 years ago
i was thinking the same thing. distinct yooper.
michaelbutley 2 years ago
God I still love this!
UndeadDiva 2 years ago
Haha! Brilliant!
Especially impressive for an indie film in 1997.
FriendOfPhilo 2 years ago
lol thats so freaking funny i love it lol
lillypad9597 2 years ago
hahaha sooooo cool XD
88ABRAMS88 2 years ago
Who's voice is cam clarke supposed to be?
foxinfekt 2 years ago
funny stuff they should do more spoofs
RipSawFormer187 3 years ago 2
:DDDD OMG :DDD Great video ! :DDD
Mace992 3 years ago 2
If in doubt shoot them!
holden2399 3 years ago
Beating up Jawas is an interglactic past-time.
thesledder 3 years ago 2
gtd... hahaha grand theft droid....
hypnocake 3 years ago 3
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
88ABRAMS88 3 years ago 4
Yeah its a perfect midwest accent.
this video is great.
Stazmo2 3 years ago 3
shastihah:
That's not a Canadian accent by a long stretch. Definitely a Great Lakes accent from the American side (probably Wisconsin or Minnesota, I'd wager).
janderson4321 3 years ago 2
Minnesota.... people from Wisconsin dont talk like that.... Beilieve me I'm from Wisconsin Northern Wisconsin.... we don't speak like that
spurs105 3 years ago 4
Fargo. Fer shure, yaa
Myyylow 3 years ago 4
MST3Ks Tom servo isi n this vid!
rockon568 3 years ago 3
LMAO
vivalaheerey 3 years ago 2
Classic!!!! I remember the first time I saw this after a friend forwared it to me. So glad its on youtube!
5 Stars
Bigninja1223 3 years ago 6
Love that first stormtrooper's Canadian accent!
shastihaha 3 years ago
This is so funny iv seen this hundred of times, really good. you should see what crap now of days they put on now but this is really is 10000000000/10 i love it when breu (sorry if its wrong spelling) hold a thermal detonator and kills owen and the farm that really tells u what happen in a funny way.
eid444 3 years ago
They don't make fanvids like they used to, that's for sure...
toadofsteel 3 years ago
lol love how this fits with the movie
Darthyoda109 3 years ago
Very good vid, this is about what really happened while luke was away from home meeting Obi-Wan Kenobi with the "stolen droids" (yes, they are talking about C3PO and R2-D2), so good history
Vicilu 3 years ago 2
lol yer and im guessing the disturbance in mos eisley cantina is obi wan and the others
tomthescone2 3 years ago 3
am i talking to you? yeah. well stay over there and if you move again i'm uhhh... i'm gonna shootcha
SamFisher147 3 years ago
Okie doke, shut the camera off, yeah, shut if off, shut it off. LOL
CapitanBluebeard 3 years ago 2
LOL! The droid is Tom Servo!
scoobertYTP 3 years ago
this would have been a great show if they kept it up.
Pooont 3 years ago 6
so this is what REALLY happened.
Theconnorfactor 3 years ago 3
f-ing awesome.
cinemantics 3 years ago
Lol, Blew his head clean off.
Element1494 3 years ago
The guy on the right at 3:50 is a little short for a Stormtrooper.
CountArtha 3 years ago 3
"we didn't find the droids we were looking for" hahaha.
great. big budget for a fan film
chrisangus85 3 years ago
First of all that was awesome, second you guys are nerds.
drivepro 3 years ago
Great Stuff
Rail21 3 years ago
lol Nice work!
daretotelldatruth 3 years ago
The only thing that is off on this is the Stormtrooper with sniper-shot aim. Everyone knows Star Wars troops couldn't hit a barn if they were standing one foot from a wall.
Matrix29bear 3 years ago
Hahaha true, though remember Obi-Wan comments that "Only stormtroopers could be so precise".
thugugbob 3 years ago
The first 3 minutes were like Cops+Star Wars+Fargo! I like 3:42!
Stratocaster05 3 years ago
"outstanding guys "
bentalltime 3 years ago
lol funny
koollooserfilms 3 years ago
Nice, to whoom ever did this, good job, its really fun to watch.
DougAndTony 3 years ago
The first trooper reminds me of Dan Aykroyd.
Mrster 3 years ago
where the hell did they get a tom servo????
explodeme999 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
ooplah5913 3 years ago
cops
MadameGuillotine1 3 years ago
Possible G.T.D. = Grand Theft Droid?
VespineVid2 3 years ago 4
All uspects are gulity period ha
earthstinks 3 years ago
THIS is what they should make a TV series from. I'd tune in every week
mnbvcxz73 3 years ago 5
Lol at the trooper with the Minnesota accent!
mnbvcxz73 3 years ago 2
This is awesome!
FooPaProductions 3 years ago
Still the best Star Wars parody.
kirbybulldog 3 years ago 3
it was pretty good
dancing12456bananas 3 years ago
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thats not how aunt maru and uncle owen died
delta4012 3 years ago
He's making a run for it!
Gipper4433 3 years ago
I got him!
Tigerman1138 3 years ago
Turn it off. Turn it OFF!
Gipper4433 3 years ago
Just as good now as when I saw it forever ago.
Sheklen 3 years ago
All suspects are guilty... or else they wouldn't be suspects. lol
Hgan01 3 years ago 3
hehehe, that was funny
supersmashman666 3 years ago
lol, Tom Servo.
TourqeGlare 3 years ago
no luke is not dead hes with ben kenobi the hobo i dont know what kluizernaar is in english
cr1ticalvoid 3 years ago
i belive kluizernaar means hermit in english
den12333 3 years ago
Total pwnage!
TexasLibra 3 years ago
This is great. Really convincing, you would think it was an actual tv show.
SaberX10 3 years ago
This is so damn funny. :)
wwwmadlandse 3 years ago
This as great! The stolen droid the Jawas have is one of the puppets from Mystery Science Theater 3000!
Talldude1980 3 years ago 2
thats awesome, plus everyone. and i mean EVERYONE wants to own some of those star wars kits? i mean its a bit nerdy but come on, everyone wants one at heart. theyre just too cool?
toolazy4skewl 3 years ago 2
Uh, huh... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah...
VSharpshooter 3 years ago
hahaha tom servo
ApostleofTriumph 3 years ago
Wow. '97.
I remember being a kid when this was knew and it took hours just to download one segment.
Philkid3 3 years ago 2
LOL So THAT'S how Beru and Owen died. It wasn't really the stormtroopers' fault after all!
ProdigalRevan 3 years ago 4
we know everbody Everbody
spy224r 3 years ago
Oldie but goldie!!!! :)
HornyDiggler 3 years ago
"All suspects are guilty, period!
Otherwise, they wouldn't be suspects would they?"