Well, I'm truly convinced now. I have his personal testimony. What more could one need? True science? Studies in peer-reviewed scientific journals? Why would you need that when you've got this guy's anecdotal testimony? Just brilliant!
I've drank it and didn't notice a difference. No doubt better than drinking soda, but people would be better served just drinking water not your overpriced water claiming to have amazing benefits none of which can be verified other than it's placebo effect. I still don't believe your claims, hmmm...
Good point, but prion diseases are not chronic diseases such as cancer, arthritis, etc. It is a disease that is caused by, or related to, canabalism, but not something inherently found in nature. You have to farm animals and feed them their own species to get to get a prion disease. Prion disease is not found in wild animals, only in farm or domesticated animals.
Find the paper, news report or study that show truly wild animals that were caught, observed or captured and found to have a disease that is not viral or bacterial.
Ok, Bob. I have to hand it to you- that was funny. I laughed, you got me. Also have to give you props for standing behind what you say, that's....something. I will haunt you no more. You win.
It's not about me winning. It's about who is identifying the truth correctly. That's what I believe I'm doing, identifying and testifying to the true about health, which comes down to what you put in your body. I definetly stand behind every word I've written and said. I'm not beyond changing my mind or admitting I'm wrong. But as far as my core Health Protocol principles I am unmovable on and do believe I have the evidence for it. I just don't need a study to tell me what the truth is.
Not everything in life is going to come with a study to verify what belongs in the body. I know you're not going to like that answer, but that's life. Do you light a torch to see the sun on a clear day? You don't need to. I have consumed ionized water for 12 years and have never felt better. There are many others who have been doing it longer than me. I've yet to hear a complaint. Not one.
@sjrl818 fruits and vegetables are supposed to have necessary vitamins and minerals...do you wait for the scientific tests to verify the content and affect on the body?
plain water is supposed to be necessary for hydration...do you research the water's hydration qualities before drinking a cup?
if a doctor prescribes medicine do you wait on the scientific findings before you pop a pill that's supposed to treat your gout?
you do ALLLL or most of these things without questioning it...
@sjrl818 2.cont. now i am NOT SAYING you shouldn't question it. at the same time if you say it's bullshit, I say prove it. furthermore, a simply test of ph levels show an obvious difference between regular tap and bottled water and alkaline water-VERY OBVIOUS. water is absorbed, not digested. if a liquid is proven to be alkaline you're saying a human being wouldn't benefit from it's properties? NO?! oh ok...if you drink water contaminated with botulism...it's not gonna have an affect?
@sjrl818 3. cont. drink water with high levels of arsenic...that won't, over time affect you either huh? what i'm attempting to prove is that if the presence of anything harmful or toxic is the quality of the water you ingest-EVERYONE knows YOU WILL BE AFFECTED-negatively. BUT, in your mind...healthy or enhanced qualities of water... ...will have no affect at all.
why would I need to have a video? You still have yet to back any of your claims. I have done so repeatedly, and judging by other's comments on this page your ionized water claims have been squashed and yet you have not offered any rebuttals...why?
What belongs in the body is what God has created, raw fruits and vegetables. That's why you don't find any evidence of CHRONIC disease (not viral, bacterial) in the wild. They don't cook their foods. We are the only species that gets sick other than the animals we domesticate and feed a cooked or processed food diet. IW reflects or mimics the same properties of raw foods. Only RFs and IW have a negative ORP. Every substance we put in our body should have a negative ORP.
Bob, you don't find MANY chronic diseases in nature because it KILLS THE HOST. If you'd likey, I bet in about 5 minutes I can find PLENTY of chronic illnesses in nature.....wait- oH! OH. Explain intestinal parasites, then. Bacterial illnesses....want me to go look or do you want to forget you made that claim?
Bob, I broke out the old micro notes; no chronic bacterial illnesses in wild animals, huh?ENJOY-Pasteurella multocida,Brucella abortis (bang's disease),B. suis,Francisella tularensis (rabbit fever),Bartonella bacilliformis,Rochalamaea hensleae (cat scratch fever, in humans)Streptobacillus moniliformis....all naturally occuring in wildlife, all have been observed as chronic in wildlife. Check the validity!
These are ALL bacteria diseases. I cleared stated that their are NO chronic diseases in the wild. Cancer, arthritis, MS, Chrones, IBS, High blood pressure, Alzheimer's, etc. There ARE bacteria and viral diseases in the wild. There is NO chronic disease in the wild. Check your facts again.
Actuall, BOB, what you said was "not viral, bacterial". I guess you meant "not viral or bacterial" There in fact are chronic bacterial illnesses in the wild; what the hell do you think, microbial illnesses can not be chronic? Ever hear of tuberculosis? As far as something non-viral, then- what exactly do you call mad cow?That's chronic, fatal, too.A prion illness.Bob, tell me something- do you want me to dredge up examples of non-microbial, chronic illnesses in nature? Hell, that'll be a SNAP.
Don't you want to watch the videos, Bob? The videos you said were not possible? Hell, I did'nt even have to leave youtube to debunk that crap, BOB. Who is the idiot- me, for taking you to task over your making unfounded claims, or YOU for making it so easy to prove how full of crap you are?
i'm done arguing with you. If you don't know the difference between viral, bacterial diseases and chronic diseases such as cancer, or you are not willing to make a distinction you are hopeless. I'm not going waste anymore of my time. Post your stupid comments all you want and I will simply delete them. You are not worth the time.
You did not watch the videos I referenced youtubers to, did you? I thought there were no chronic illnesses in wild animals, such as cancer....why, then, are there dozens of youtube videos of wild animals with huYOOOGE tumors? Maybe they're PHOTOSHOPPED...that's it, they're fake....lol...
Tuberculosis is a CHRONIC bacterial disease, dilletsman; hepatitis is a CHRONIC viral disease, dillestman. Cervical cancer is caused by.....a virus. DILLESTMAN. What's your point?
Oh, before I forget- SHAME ON YOU. In your heart you know you're running a scam, and the real kicker? You suggested my spiritual leanings were the reason for my calling you out. Remember this comment next Sunday when you hit your knees, BOB.
The only thing I know in my heart is that I try to honor the temple that God has given me, my body. You can post all the spurious comments you want about me. It will not change my message, which is the message that if we put into our bodies what God meant us to we will be health. If we don't, we will not be healthy. If you don't like what I'm doing, move on. You've made your point.
RELIGION- tha'ts funny, because guess what Bob did on the very first day I started haunting him. GUESS! He attacked my character by asserting my spiritual leanings were the very reason I was trying to get him to cough up some data. Bob, him's reel gud at arguin that monotheism angle...
Dr. Weil is a joke. He is a fat old man and anyone looking at him should wonder what he is doing so they can do the exact opposite. Weil is a sell out. He wouldn't know true health if it hit him in his fat face. Obviously, the guy could use some ionized water.
He obviously knows nothing of physiological processes, huh? After all, he's an MD and those guys are the ENEMY....until you get sick.....hey Bob- do you go to the doctor when you get sick? Oh right, I forgot- you don't get sick. HEY- why not provide us all with your medical records? Post them on your business' website! Oh yah, forgot again- you NEVER back up your claims. Sorry, I'm forgetful....you're nothing but conjecture and unsubstantiated claims....I forgot AGAIN....
It's not about me. It's not about Bob McCauley. It's about the products I promote. Ionized water, spirulina, chlorella, raw foods, angstrom minerals, probiotics, FIR sauna. Yeah, I sell them. Because they ARE my lifestyle. People can choose not to use them. It's not anymore complicated than that.
I am always truthful about my claims. I realize that testimonials are not scientific evidence. But I also think too many people are "hung up" on trying to prove everything scientifically. Sometimes nature does not reveal itself so easily.
I am not afraid of scientific studies, but if you want every last health claim to come with a study then you won't ever be able to determine anything. Also, if you demand a study for every claim the pharmaceuticals have won and they will be in complete control of everything you put in your body. That is what the CODEX 111 is all about.
Bob- Dr Andrew Weil, you've heard of him, RIGHT? He said, when asked about ionized water, that unless your lungs or kidneys are severly damaged your body's ph will ALWAYS be within normal limits and that- GET THIS- ionized water is a SCAM. Why do you think he feels this way?
have you ever consumed ionized water? How much and for how long? you are alone in declaring ionized water is a scam. You r a scam. ur trying to keep people from the healthiest substance on earth: ionized water.
Respond to the observation, Bob. Exactly how DOES your alkaline water survive as suck in the very, VERY acidic environment of your stomache?Never drank it, so I don't know? In the 50's IRRADIATED WATER was all the rage, made people "feel great"....made their TEETH GLOW, too. Gave them, you know, CANCER. Address the man's comment, Bob. After all, YOU are the debunker, so DEBUNK!
Hey Bob- you're a religious man, right? Are you telling us that God made water that is less than perfect in it's pure form? You claim pure water is POISONOUS to our bodies on another video; your God made water that is not already perfect. Imagine that! You claim to be able to fix His little mistake, for a few thousand dollars.....
For someone who hates me and everything I do and promote, you sure know a lot about me. Personally, I don't waste my time on people I despise. I ignor them. Your fascination with me is intriguing.
I'm more fascinated with your inability to produce verifiable evidence to back up your claims, Bob, than anything else....how much is the Ionizer? Why won't you tell us ALL how much your device costs? You claimed to be a debunker, I challenged your claim, and you tucked your tail and ran away....some black belt.....
Our prices are on our website. I don't provide them on neutral websites such as YouTube. You act like I'm hiding them. Go to my website, then you can tell the world what I'm charging for a water ionizer that producers the "World's Healthiest Substance".
You referred to me as a black belt. Is there anything about me you don't know?
Yah watershed- I don't know how you look yourself in the eyes when you shave every morning....I don't know how you can sleep at night....I don't know how you can go to the trouble of making a debunking video, yet not answer straightforward evidence-based qustions put to you in rebuttal, ON YOUR DEBUNKING VIDEO.......lotta things I don't know about you. And I'm not fascinated with you, I just want you to be a man and provide the evidence to refute my initial observations. I think it's only fair.
He wont answer you, typical scam artist- when they are presented with actual based fact that ruins their rip-off scheme they turn tail and hide. I have posted multiple times on these videos and stated actual scientific fact, and he also ignored me and didnt even attempt to try to defend his miracle cure-all. What funny about this video is that it doesnt even debunk anything, lol.
Hey, Bob. Bob? BOB! Heeeeyyy Bob, you know you're going to have to begin your debunking of my comment pretty soon, or the good folks of the 'net are going to start thinking you made this video without having any real, you know, PERSUASIVE EVIDENCE to DEBUNK THE DEBUNKERS, which is what you claim to be able to do. Your words, not mine, BOB. Refute my comments, Bob(the ones posted on this video),and post them HERE, not elsewhere, OK? Can you focus long enough to do that, BOB? Back up your claims.
WATERSHED- Got those studies for me yet?I want the names of the individuals involved, the facilities they were conducted at, the controls used, and the installment and issue of the peer-reviewed journal the findings were published in.Count on my verifying the "evidence". Then the real fun starts!
What you are claiming your device does can be accomplished with nothing more than deoinized (ie PURE) water and a few drops of sodium hypochlorite (bleach) for an alkaline water, or a few drops of lemon juice for acidity. NOW- I've just touched upon a few really, really basic principals which are both good science and easily verifiable as such; let's hear your "science".As you requested, I WANT YOU TO BE SPECIFIC.You did not look at my channel, did you?Bit yourself off a big chunk this time....
WATERSHED-another example of our body's ph homeostatic mechanism is found in the various types of cells we are made of; for instance, the ph of one connective tissue (like blood) is kept at a different level by our bodies than another (like gastrointestinal squamous epithelium).To suggest that our bodies fluids and tissues need to be kept at one certain ph level is to sugest that the human body can exist in a sort of ph stasis, which is, you know- IGNORANT of basic human biochemistry.
WATERSHED- alkalinity and acidity is determined by the percentage of either hydrogen or hydroxide ions; passing an electric gharge through pure water does absolutely nothing, and to suggest it does is, well, infantile and reveals your ignorance of basic chemistry. Our bodies have different degrees of acidity and alkalinity, both in fluids and tissues.For instance, saliva, blood, and sweat are all regulated by our bodies to have their own specific ph.....
I am debunkers the people who denounce ionized water. What is it that high school school chemistry has taught you that demonstrates ionized water is a rip off. Be specific. I have 30 pages of Scientific Studies in my book on ionized water. What chemistry do you have to offer that contradicts my claims? I am waiting for you evidence. Please don't disappoint me like ALL the other debunkers who never seem to be able to come up with any answers when I ask for them.
Well, let's see....first, pure water can be made neither acidic nor alkaline by electrolysis; that would require the addition of a metal such as calcium (yes, it's a METAL);ingestion of alkaline substances DOES NOT reduce the body's acidity- that's done by- wait for it- RESPIRATION.Osmosis into cells has nothing to do with "water cluster size", as water exists as individual molecules held together by hydrogen bonds, and "breaking up" water into smaller molecules is called HYDROLYSIS.
I answered EVERY question that you had, I presented FACTS several months ago and you responded with absolutely nothing. and all those "studies" you show? Interesting how they were all performed by people with no degrees and not one of them show up on any ISI registries. Basic chemical principles show that water is constantly being ionized by itself, passing an electric current through water does nothing to it, absolutely nothing-
whats really funny is that you all taught the thrills of an alkaline diet...but yet EVERYTHING we eat is turned alkaline anyway by pancreatic enzymes...oh no..sorry, I didnt mean to ruin your utopian miracle cure...
and since regular h20 cant conduct electricity, passing a current does nothing to the h20 molecule, dang man...your two most fundamental arguments just got shot down...stinks when someone comes along and they actually know what they are talking about huh?
This is why I don't listen much to doctors anymore. They try and cure everything with expensive & harmful drugs when there are amazing inexpensive natural foods that heal your body with no side effects. In the future people will look at our doctors now the same way we look at doctors centuries ago who used to try & cure everything with leaches.
Medicine is progressive in it's learning, so is every other vocation and profession, that's how it should be. But to slander all medications as "harmful", etc. is a misnomer and the sign of one who doesn't know as much about pharmacology. Granted some have side effects, but a vast majority are completely harmless. There are MILLIONS of lives prolonged, saved and made better via pharmaceuticals every year.
Ur right, sum aren't harmful & some do actually work but I bet you can find some natural food that can cure you just as well (if not better). I can think of so many examples of people I know who have cured conditions wiv improved diets after having no success wiv prescribed medications (which in a lot of cases was actually making the condition worse). Unfortunately big pharma makes too much $s from drugs that they don't want people to know they can cure themselves with inexpensive natural cures.
One thing I have really enjoyed about our conversation is that once you know you have been proven wrong you change the subject, its actually quite entertaining.
I'm not changing the subject. You kept saying I needed to study physiology and I was pointing out that even people with vast amount of qualifications & knowledge (orthodox knowledge) of the human body still don't really understand how it works judging by the fact that I've found that it is the alternative doctors & medicines that have given most joy.
Also, what incentive would anyone have to call this a scam? The only competition "ionized water" could possibly have is logic. People who want you to believe ionized water is a good thing stand to lose a lot of business if it gets out that it doesn't do anything. People arguing against it have nothing to gain or lose relative to this argument.
I'm going to go ahead and assume that the three accounts arguing that this water is a good thing work for the company... or even own the company that produces it. There are no miracle cures. Relax. But I don't know... if people are stupid enough to fall for this, I guess they deserve to lose their money to you.
Also cordovamx, you claim that pancreatic enzymes will alkalize any substances anyway. There is some truth in this. Trouble is the more H+ ions and toxins you consume, the more energy and enzymes your body has to waste to eliminate them which takes it toll on the body. Why not consume water and food which is already alkalizing and non-toxic therefore not wasting the bodies energy and nutrients?
Our pancreatic enzymes that deal with neutralization are extremely powerful and are highly regulated, producing and activating them once digestion occurs takes no toll on the body and is harmless, consuming water and food that is "alkaline" will not have the large impact on the amount of enzymes secreted and used as you think. The bodies pH is VASTLY different throughout the body, it is highly regulated by buffers and enzymes- consuming alkaline substances has little effect on the "bodies pH".
Ingesting acidic or alkaline foods has a relatively low (if any) impact on the overall body pH- if you want to be less "acidic", take a few extra deep breaths, it's free and more effective than taking special water. (blood pH is regulated via the pulmonary system) Taking in more alkaline fluids and such will actually have the opposite effect, since your body has to work harder to keep things within its best pH ranges throughout the body.
Isn't your logic an oxymoron? What I mean is that the more alkaline food you ingest, it is well known that your parietal cells within in your gastric mucosa produces more Hydrochloric (HCL) acid to neutralize it, so therefore (according to your logic previously mentioned) if I ingest substances that are too alkaline won't I be overworking my stomach and expending "nutrients and energy" wastefully? Sorry my friend but that's not how it works...
That's different. It's easy for the body to produce acids (like free radicals) because they're essentially waste products. It's a lot harder for the body to produce alkali's because it needs a lot of oxygen and alkaline minerals which are sadly lacking in most peoples diet.
Do you know what a free radical is? Apparently not- it is a free electron, not an acid, lol, and no, free radicals are not waste products, nor are acids, our bodies produce many acidic compounds daily, and they also produce a slew of alkaline products daily, both of which require the same amount of energy and several different elemental compounds. The body easily produces alkaline substances, it sounds to me like you are making this up as you go.
Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what a free radical is! It is not a free electron, LOL, it is an uncharged molecule that requires an electron and will take it from your cells hence breaking them down and leading to aging. Acids and free radicals are essentially waste products but are useful to the body if regulated properly such as for the surface of the skin to hinder bacteria & viruses. Maybe you should learn some physiology.
It is extremely well known throughout the chemistry world that a free electron is a free radical, In chemistry, radicals (often referred to as free radicals) are atoms, molecules or ions with unpaired electrons on an otherwise open shell configuration. These unpaired electrons are usually highly reactive, so radicals are likely to take part in chemical reactions. This is BASIC chemistry- this is verifiable from ANY high school chemistry text- and from ANY chemistry website, google "Free Radical"
a free radical is most certainly a charged molecule or free electron. Acids are not wasted products, our bodies produce many acidic substances that are used throughout the body. Skin secretions true are slightly acidic (some are, some are alkaline though). Please, you are wasting my time and your time with your arguments that are based on nothing more than pure pseudoscience and simply false physiological concepts.
A no. of years ago I had mild acne and my doctor said that there was not much I could do just a period I had to go thru. I tried a detox diet (even tho most doctors said there was no proof they worked) & the effects were amazing. The grease causing the acne completely went, my skin glowed & felt awesome. Why did my doctor, with all his knowledge, not know about this? Why do doctors claim there is no evidence that detox diet work? Cos they try & prove everything on paper & misinterpret the facts.
you have stated "Cos they try & prove everything on paper & misinterpret the facts." In all my years of clinical experience I have NEVER once met any physician or clinician who fits this description- but rather the complete opposite. Any doctor worth his/her salt learns the most from clinical experience, period. (not whatever elusive "paper" term you are using). So what makes you better qualified than a physician to understand and interpret facts? So far you have been grossly mislead.
You results sound like you stopped eating greasy or fatty foods, good on ya- every physician knows that a diet lower in those substances will decrease acne severity, and possibly eliminate it. There is no way to "detoxify" the body, this term is very misleading, our bodies do an incredible job of regulating its internal environment on its own. Eating healthy and exercising does the same thing, if not more effectively than any "juice detox", etc. The only magical cure is to exercise and eat right
Most doctors know that detox diets are false because of the tremendous amount of research that proves their falsities. Better results are achieved with eating healthy, and exercising regularly, which is FAR more effective than any colon cleansing juice diet.
The fact is my doctor never once mentioned anything about changing my diet. I even did some research on acne & all these qualified people seemed to marginalize the role diet plays in causing acne when in fact it is almost solely the reason for it. & yes, the detox diet I did back then was not the best diet but it did the job so to claim they are false is absurd. I now eat a more varied form of a diet detox with lots of superfoods & I'm in the best shape of my life.
free radicals are rarely waste products, but we do produce quite a few specialized proteins whose entire existence is devoted to the elimination of free radicals, and it is true that different foods digested provide some of these proteins. Oil and sebaceous glands under the skin produce saebum, a slightly acidic oily substance to protect from pathogens, the body produces this on it's own, it doesn't use "waste by-products" by the way. Hope that helps clear up your confusion on that matter.
by the way, most uncharged molecules are stable and will not readily acquire and electron, those that do are simply more electro-negative than others, this doesn't make them free radicals at all (where you got that idea, who knows).
Why then did you state earlier that disease thrives in an acidic body? Isn't this last statement counter-intuitive to your argument about the benefits of ionized water? Pathogens and diseases cannot survive in an acidic environment, why do you think that so many body secretions are acidic? Because they protect the body from possible pathogenic threats. If disease thrived in acid then we would have all died out a long time ago since we would have been incubators for disease.
and how is that different? According to your logic you would be overworking your poor little stomach cells. That's exactly what you are saying. Please, do yourself a favor and learn basic human physiology, it'll save you the time of trying to fabricate points out of thin air (of which it is obvious you are doing).
Interestingly enough you mentioned that the key to good health is eating lots of fruit & veg. Why's that? Cos they have an alkalizing effect on the body unlike most other foods. Just coincidence that alcohol, fast food, cigarettes, drugs (all the things that are bad for us etc) happen to be very acidifying.
Many fruits and several vegetables are slightly acidic. I've said this before- ALL substances you ingest, no matter their pH are alkalized, so the pH of food you eat is all brought above 7, REGARDLESS of what you eat. These foods do not affect body pH (which is a meaningless term since the bodies pH varies VASTLY depending on where in the body you are looking, stomach juices are around 1-2 pH while other interstitial fluids may be 8 or 9). I would suggest learning a thing or two about physiology
It's not about the pH of a food in its natural state. It's about the ash it leaves once it's metabolized. Lemon juice is very acidic but it leaves a very alkaline ash after being used by the body. Please go on a diet of strictly alkalizing foods and then tell me it makes no difference!!! This is the trouble with most scientists, they try and prove everything on paper and just misinterpret all their knowledge. You're just saying what you see but have no idea how the body achieves it.
Just saying what I see? Not hardly- I've studied all of these processes EXTENSIVELY in a lab and know very well what I am talking about, I know very well how the body achieves these processes because I have participated in clinical research extensively that involves these very processes. You have yet to say anything remotely true about a physiological process. All of what you have said could be debunked by any physiology text.
All food digested in our bodies metabolizes, or burns, down to an ash residue. This ash residue can be neutral, acidic, or alkaline, depending mostly on the mineral content of the original food.
all food digested is broken down and it's monomers are utilized for energy and bodily functions and are mostly absorbed in the small intestine, what is left over (mostly un-digestible matter) is excreted as feces (not too sure where your "ash" term comes from, lol) And true, it's pH can vary, but not a whole lot, usually from 6.5-8
we are constantly producing these enzymes and digestive chemicals- the more you eat the more you produce, it has no harmful effect to produce more, nor is it a waste of energy at all. Our bodies own systems are phenominally well adapted to dealing with regulating itself, it really doesn't need a whole lot of help. (unless of course you mistreat it) That's why eating healthy and exercising is the best plan to stay healthy and live a long and happy life- no miracle cures needed.
Cordovamx, you don't know what you're talking about. The first few times I tried ionized water I experienced an amazing head rush as did some my friends. I've never had that with regular tap water or mineral water so to claim that ionized water is the same as tap water is completely false and shows you know nothing.
lol, experienced a "head rush"? Sure there wasn't something else in the water? Ionized water is really no different than regular tap, its chemical content is essentially the same. But heck, if it works for you, then power to ya.
what you experienced sounds more like the placebo effect than an actual result of anything in the water. Does this head rush occur every time you drink the water? If it does then there might be a actual physiological reason behind it, but if it only happened the first or second time and not after that then I might suggest that it was entirely neurological (it was all in your head).
Wrong! It happened the first two times I took it and it was very noticeable. I assume it hasn't happened again cos my body is now used to it. The proof that isn't a placebo effect is that 2 skeptical friends tried some (who I hadn't told about the head rush effect) and they both reported the exact same thing without prompting & were quite surprised. Although I think it depends on the health and age of the person cos my mum didn't experience it.
...That's ridiculous. You probably told these friends about how amazing this water is and how it would change their lives and since they had the same expectation as you had going in, they experienced a similar effect.
Err... Did you read what I wrote? I said I never told them anything about getting a head rush and they were also very cynical about ionized water. Why after mocking me for buying a water ionizer would they both suddenly admit they experienced a head rush unless they actually had done? Maybe you should try some on an empty stomach and see for yourself. Don't knock it till you've tried it!
Millions of people have consumed ionized water and found it incredibly beneficial. It's consumed extensively across Japan. Placebos don't travel around the world and produce powerful testimonials where ever they are tried.
Ask ol' Bob how much a deionizer costs. I DARE you. While you're at it, ask him why the water his God made for us to drink is somehow lacking compared to his Ionized water.....
Bob will proceed to ignore you now, as he cannot begin to back up his claims and only made this video because sceptics have been haunting him since he first began selling these gizmos on tne 'net. Go look at his business website- he has a whole page devoted to debunkers, and no evidence to contradict their claims against his little snakeoil device...Bob truly is a pussy when it comes to standing behind his product!
You mean that millions of people have independently have come to the conclusion that IW is great and they feel better drinking it. And you want piles of scientific studies and data. You sound like the government.
just because you had a "head rush" doesn't mean a thing- people who smoke pot and do crack get "head rushes" too, lol, so I guess due to the very scientific nature of head rushes (I hope you sense my sarcasm here), then that must mean that illegal drugs and alcohol are also good, since they produce a head rush. You cannot base the validity of something on a "head rush", whatever that means- a head rush is no more than a nerval response to an expected stimuli- hence, the placebo.
Actually, the point I was trying to make originally is that ionized water has different properties to tap water and as I have stated a number of times now "IT WAS NOT A PLACEBO EFFECT!"
Thanks for your comments. There are a lot of people who have never tried ionized water and all they can do is denounce it and call me a fake, a fraud and a phony. Ionized Water is the healthiest substance we can consume.
interestingly enough...regular tap water has the same effect in multiple side by side double blind studies performed by several medical schools and universities...
nope, just being truthful. When you get the chance take a peak at many of the graduate students' senior research projects done in accordance with many university faculty; most universities have performed at least one study on ionized water. Their studies and results can be found at their university library. I will leave it up to you to do the foot work. (something tells me you won't though)
and why is it that regular tap water has the same effects? Because it and "ionized water" are the same thing. Anything ingested becomes alkaline, a myriad of pancreatic enzymes are activated once they come into contact with the duodenum; making anything you eat alkaline, so the more alkaline substances are ingested, the more HCL your parietal cells in your stomach produce to neutralize it. Ingesting large amounts of alkaline substances can lead to metabolic alkalosis, which can be fatal.
but yet when challenged by someone who actually knows a thing or two about chemistry and human physiology you return no argument and just ignore them...I wonder why...
You say that a water ionizer has transformed your health. But can you be sure of that? Could it have been, and I presume you also did this, a shift to alkaline foods. I am not debunking water ionizers, as before today I never heard of them, but can you please elaborate on how it transformed your health. I would be eager to hear this, from someone who has tried it.
Hi mate, I was actually eating lots of alkalizing foods a few years b4 I got the ionizer as well as only drinking mineral water & exercising lots so when I got the ionizer I didnt xpect it to make much difference tbh. So I was quite surprised when I got a head/body rush the 1st time I tried it. After 2/3 wks I noticed I had the suppleness of a 10 yr old and I could exercise for hours everyday and not get any muscle stiffness (which I put down to lactic acid being neutralized easily).
Also, as fate wd hav it, a month or so after gettin the ionizer I picked up an horrific sports injury wiv severe ankle ligament damage. The doctor told me after looking at the x-rays that it was a really nasty injury & it wd take at least a year to fix wiv lots of hard physio work. After 3 months wiv only 2 physio sessions my ankle was fully healed & I was back playing sport. My physio couldn't believe it. At the 2nd session he sent me home after 5 mins cos my ankle was fine.
You certainly present an awesome testimony to using an ionizer. I have just started the journey of eating a more alkaline diet, so I will see how far that takes me first and then look more into ionizers. At the moment I am aiming for 60 - 80% alkaline foods, barley grass and spirulina drink and green tea. The man at the healthfood store also mentions a alkalising powder additive to water, but said because I was going onto the barley grass it would be overkill, whats your opinion?
Best to take it slowly as the detoxification process will be more intense the more alkalizing your diet is. Try to avoid mixing v. acidifying & v. alkalizing foods as this will leave you feelin v. tired & will give you spots as your body keeps expelling the toxins thru ur skin. The detox period can take weeks to months so stick with it. Btw, the ionizer doesnt just create water that is alkaline, it's also antioxidant wiv v. small microclusters which makes it easy to absorb. U can drink gallons!
you are a complete idiot with absolutely no experience with Physiology and Chemistry- any high school student of either of these subjects can easily debunk any of your arguments. Its sad you are ripping people off by taking advantage of the placebo effect. dont buy ionized water- its a crock and a joke, if you know any basic chemical and physiological principles you can understand why all of the ionized water followers are completely duped and falling for this utter garbage.
and non of his reference linked checked out and some of the stuff he says about chemistry just isn't true. I know, I'm lab tech, i do this shit. He's a retired teacher and theres a reason they only teach and don't practice the art, because there idiots.
Thanks for your comments. This guys needs to be debunked himself. I have always wondered who's paying him to say this nonsense. He is standing firmly against the greatest health product ever invented.
the greatest health product ever invented? Are you kidding me? Any high school chemistry student could debunk this ionized water myth. I would highly recommend getting some education in the field of physiology and chemistry, you will then see that all of the ionized water claims are fabricated myths that are nothing but expensive placebo's.
you and your high school chemistry. Show me the chemistry of how ionized water is nonsense and you will make me a believer. But you won't because you can't. I'm waiting for your chemistry.
me and my high-school chemistry? Well heck if you refuse to believe established scientific fact that irrefutable then so be it, I can't help ya there. Ionized water is nonsense because it is no different than regular tap water...actually regular tap has a better mineral content (relatively speaking). Lol, "I won't because I can't"? (real grown up comment by the way). I would be happy to show you how proper chemistry and physiology function, give me a claim and I would be happy to refute it.
and my example of using "high-school" was implying that even the most basic concepts of molecular chemistry could easily put a damper of the ionized water claims. For one, all water "clusters", but it only does so for pico-seconds, and nature does it on its own for free, amazingly enough you don't need an expensive machine to do it. (shocker!) regular water forms these clusters and they are so unstable (since water is unstable) that they are negligible for any "benefit for better absorption".
lol- your post is pretty laughable. The basic concepts of physiology and chemistry are enough alone to debunk this pseudoscience. Anyone who has even the remotest experience with college chemistry and college human physiology can see right through this garbage. From your grammar its pretty obvious you skipped out on quite a bit of school, and what facility on earth hired you if your a lab tech? I hope that you never have anything to do with actual patients.
um..I think you mean "guarantee"? Lol- so much for credibility eh? The debunkers of ionized water are anyone who has taken basic chemistry and physiology and knows better- "ionized water" is quite ridiculous since all water is ionized.
all water is ionized? You are exposing yourself as a phony. who are you? What's your email. engage me in something other than insults. give me your credentials. I'm a Certified Nutritional Consultant. Do you know ANYTHING about natural health.
exposing myself as a phony? How? By stating something that you aren't willing to study? All water is ionized, meaning there are OH- and H+ ions, water with a neutral pH has [OH-] and [H+] with the concentrated molarity of 10^-7. There are metal, and organic ions in ALL water. The term "ionized water" is synonymous with regular ole tap water. It chemically is meaningless. All substances consumed in the body are eventually made alkaline anyway by pancreatic enzymes. Truth hurts doesn't it?
lol, I just did. But unfortunately your retort was void of any sort of return argument, a sign that you aren't willing to defend your stance and that you lack the information necessary to do so. So instead you throw out a personal insult...ah the hallmark of the defeated.
why do you want my email? Lol- I am a chemistry major and have seen many of these "claims" of ionized water debunked time and time again in a lab and in many clinical trials. It's a joke. Oh so your a CNC? Wow, did your degree come mail ordered, did you pay for 50$ and fill out a form and walla- your a CNC? Are you a nationally registered dietition? If not then you are no more qualified to give medical advice than my dog. The head of the CNC has how many criminal convictions again?
I want your email because you are a phony that hides behind a fake name like all the other debunkers - I've yet to successfully engage one of them in a debate. They hide behind fake names and websites where no one can contact them. You are obviously one of them.
You do realize that the CNC program is nothing more than a mail order degree program right? The AANC has never been certified in ANYTHING, and their founder was convicted of MULTIPLE charges of practicing medicine without a license. As long as your have 50 bucks, a few minutes to fill out a questionaire, anyone can become a "CNC". In the last "National Profile Directory of Nutritional Consultants" only 3% (?!?!) had anything close that resembled a medical degree.
lol- oh don;t care to dispute any of my points huh? typical...
Why should I worry about you credentials? (or immense lack there of). A fraud? How? What mask are you referring to? I'll gladly give you the address to my house and all of my college transcripts. I haven't hid anything from you. I think it's funny that when you are confronted by factual knowledge all you can do is call me a phony without remotely defending your argument.
I actually enjoy many aspects of "natural health". Unfortunately, it's just eating healthy and getting plenty of exercise that works. There are no "miracle remedies" or "fountains of youth", just plain ol' eating your veggies and fruits and getting enough sleep. But being a CNC means you have 50 bucks and some time on your hands. As far as my credentials? Pre-med student, chemistry/physiology major and lots of experience in multiple labs and medicine, all through an ACCREDITED (real) University.
wow- how about a lesson in proper grammar? your a lab tech? what facility on earth hired you? Apparently you were sleeping through your physiology and chemistry labs...I pray they don't let you have anything to with actual living patients...
Ionization means to gain or lose an electron. Ionization dramatically changes the ORP (mV) of the water. Explain it genius, with your high school chemistry.
gladly! Your elementary explanation of both processes are correct, so no argument there, but they have relatively little effect when consumed in the body, if water is potable enough to drink then it's orp value is negligible, since it is relatively equal to regular tap water. This is basic acid/base chemical physiology.
unfortunately he won't take the time to learn the factual chemistry and physiology- ionized water is probably the biggest joke and an even bigger scam.
Read my book, The Miraculous Properties of Ionized Water, and you'll get 30 pages of scientific studies that have been performed on ionized water. Or are all those scientists in the "scam" as well.
I looked at your book, and once I got passed all the bad punctuation and grammar, it's just stretched facts and misinformation that the uneducated are wow'ed by. The studies mentioned are ironically done by people who do not show up on ANY I.N.I. registries. hmm...I wonder why?...
a quote from your web page "To conclude that consuming a substance which is 100 times more alkaline than the body ought to be is not beneficial to our health is to demonstrate you know nothing about Ionized Water and body pH." Consuming ANYTHING that alkaline will cause metabolic alkalosis, a condition if left untreated immediately can kill you. The above quote alone proves your lack of understanding on the subject.
lol. Most people don't believe because they are distracted by science and propaganda that says only doctors can treat people. Well if you are foolish enough to believe that, you are a disgrace to your species and a shame to god who has already given you every tool to stay healthy. Humans are designed by nature to drink naturally occurring ionized water, and so are animals. Many animals suck on scum to survive, but you don't see them getting diabetes do you? and yes, animals can get diabetes.
nice use of the english language (rolling eyes). What's wrong with fluoride and chlorine? They prevent our water system from becoming contaminated by pathogens and save literally millions of lives every year. Chlorine evaporates as soon as you turn your faucet on, and has no effects whatsoever. Fluoride prevents you and I from getting dental carries and helps to strengthen enamel. And no, they are not acids, they are low reacting non-metals.
Well, I'm truly convinced now. I have his personal testimony. What more could one need? True science? Studies in peer-reviewed scientific journals? Why would you need that when you've got this guy's anecdotal testimony? Just brilliant!
misterdeity 4 months ago
You didn't actually debunk or even address a single point. All I heard was they are wrong, if you want to find out why buy my book.
The skeptics have some legitimate, and specific points, you failed to mention one of them, and simply restated your premise that ionized water works.
Craigmw45 5 months ago 4
stop smoking bongs and the paranoia about PH levels in water will disappear.
aussie114 7 months ago
Today, aspirin is one of? the most widely used medications in the world,
with an estimated 40,000 tonnes of it being consumed each year.
It is one of the most effective and cheapest remedies available.
Aspirin has saved countless lives and eased much pain and it's an acid.
If you take two aspirin with a glass of ionized water will it be less
effective? Vitamin C, another acid prevents scurvy. Would you reconstitute
condensed orange juice with alkaline water? Think about it.
hollywoodt00 8 months ago
Wow, my bullshit detector is going off the chart!
blabby102 1 year ago 2
to say there is no cancer in wild animals would be dumb but I can almost guarantee you it is mainly from human pollution.
ProtectoroftheTruth 2 years ago
I've drank it and didn't notice a difference. No doubt better than drinking soda, but people would be better served just drinking water not your overpriced water claiming to have amazing benefits none of which can be verified other than it's placebo effect. I still don't believe your claims, hmmm...
nakane66 2 years ago
Good point, but prion diseases are not chronic diseases such as cancer, arthritis, etc. It is a disease that is caused by, or related to, canabalism, but not something inherently found in nature. You have to farm animals and feed them their own species to get to get a prion disease. Prion disease is not found in wild animals, only in farm or domesticated animals.
watershed11 2 years ago
I will come out of retirement if you REALLY want me to find chronic illnesses in wild animals NOT caused by...you know. Love you. Mean it.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Find the paper, news report or study that show truly wild animals that were caught, observed or captured and found to have a disease that is not viral or bacterial.
watershed11 2 years ago
I referred you to 4 videos, BOB. DAMN!
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Ok, Bob. I have to hand it to you- that was funny. I laughed, you got me. Also have to give you props for standing behind what you say, that's....something. I will haunt you no more. You win.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
It's not about me winning. It's about who is identifying the truth correctly. That's what I believe I'm doing, identifying and testifying to the true about health, which comes down to what you put in your body. I definetly stand behind every word I've written and said. I'm not beyond changing my mind or admitting I'm wrong. But as far as my core Health Protocol principles I am unmovable on and do believe I have the evidence for it. I just don't need a study to tell me what the truth is.
watershed11 2 years ago
So how do you know it's true? Where's the evidence? You owe it to your customers to verify your claims appropriately.
sjrl818 2 years ago
Not everything in life is going to come with a study to verify what belongs in the body. I know you're not going to like that answer, but that's life. Do you light a torch to see the sun on a clear day? You don't need to. I have consumed ionized water for 12 years and have never felt better. There are many others who have been doing it longer than me. I've yet to hear a complaint. Not one.
watershed11 2 years ago
@sjrl818 fruits and vegetables are supposed to have necessary vitamins and minerals...do you wait for the scientific tests to verify the content and affect on the body?
plain water is supposed to be necessary for hydration...do you research the water's hydration qualities before drinking a cup?
if a doctor prescribes medicine do you wait on the scientific findings before you pop a pill that's supposed to treat your gout?
you do ALLLL or most of these things without questioning it...
doctorsizzle 1 year ago
@sjrl818 2.cont. now i am NOT SAYING you shouldn't question it. at the same time if you say it's bullshit, I say prove it. furthermore, a simply test of ph levels show an obvious difference between regular tap and bottled water and alkaline water-VERY OBVIOUS. water is absorbed, not digested. if a liquid is proven to be alkaline you're saying a human being wouldn't benefit from it's properties? NO?! oh ok...if you drink water contaminated with botulism...it's not gonna have an affect?
doctorsizzle 1 year ago
@sjrl818 3. cont. drink water with high levels of arsenic...that won't, over time affect you either huh? what i'm attempting to prove is that if the presence of anything harmful or toxic is the quality of the water you ingest-EVERYONE knows YOU WILL BE AFFECTED-negatively. BUT, in your mind...healthy or enhanced qualities of water... ...will have no affect at all.
WTF? ...is all i have to type to you.
doctorsizzle 1 year ago
why would I need to have a video? You still have yet to back any of your claims. I have done so repeatedly, and judging by other's comments on this page your ionized water claims have been squashed and yet you have not offered any rebuttals...why?
cordovamx 2 years ago
give the study - give me the news story. You don't have it.
Dillestman 2 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? Study? "News story" ? Are you on medication? Stop taking it.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
What belongs in the body is what God has created, raw fruits and vegetables. That's why you don't find any evidence of CHRONIC disease (not viral, bacterial) in the wild. They don't cook their foods. We are the only species that gets sick other than the animals we domesticate and feed a cooked or processed food diet. IW reflects or mimics the same properties of raw foods. Only RFs and IW have a negative ORP. Every substance we put in our body should have a negative ORP.
watershed11 2 years ago
Bob, you don't find MANY chronic diseases in nature because it KILLS THE HOST. If you'd likey, I bet in about 5 minutes I can find PLENTY of chronic illnesses in nature.....wait- oH! OH. Explain intestinal parasites, then. Bacterial illnesses....want me to go look or do you want to forget you made that claim?
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Bob, I broke out the old micro notes; no chronic bacterial illnesses in wild animals, huh?ENJOY-Pasteurella multocida,Brucella abortis (bang's disease),B. suis,Francisella tularensis (rabbit fever),Bartonella bacilliformis,Rochalamaea hensleae (cat scratch fever, in humans)Streptobacillus moniliformis....all naturally occuring in wildlife, all have been observed as chronic in wildlife. Check the validity!
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
These are ALL bacteria diseases. I cleared stated that their are NO chronic diseases in the wild. Cancer, arthritis, MS, Chrones, IBS, High blood pressure, Alzheimer's, etc. There ARE bacteria and viral diseases in the wild. There is NO chronic disease in the wild. Check your facts again.
watershed11 2 years ago
Actuall, BOB, what you said was "not viral, bacterial". I guess you meant "not viral or bacterial" There in fact are chronic bacterial illnesses in the wild; what the hell do you think, microbial illnesses can not be chronic? Ever hear of tuberculosis? As far as something non-viral, then- what exactly do you call mad cow?That's chronic, fatal, too.A prion illness.Bob, tell me something- do you want me to dredge up examples of non-microbial, chronic illnesses in nature? Hell, that'll be a SNAP.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
You are an idiot.
watershed11 2 years ago
Don't you want to watch the videos, Bob? The videos you said were not possible? Hell, I did'nt even have to leave youtube to debunk that crap, BOB. Who is the idiot- me, for taking you to task over your making unfounded claims, or YOU for making it so easy to prove how full of crap you are?
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Call no man a fool, bob....
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
i'm done arguing with you. If you don't know the difference between viral, bacterial diseases and chronic diseases such as cancer, or you are not willing to make a distinction you are hopeless. I'm not going waste anymore of my time. Post your stupid comments all you want and I will simply delete them. You are not worth the time.
Dillestman 2 years ago
You did not watch the videos I referenced youtubers to, did you? I thought there were no chronic illnesses in wild animals, such as cancer....why, then, are there dozens of youtube videos of wild animals with huYOOOGE tumors? Maybe they're PHOTOSHOPPED...that's it, they're fake....lol...
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Tuberculosis is a CHRONIC bacterial disease, dilletsman; hepatitis is a CHRONIC viral disease, dillestman. Cervical cancer is caused by.....a virus. DILLESTMAN. What's your point?
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Oh, before I forget- SHAME ON YOU. In your heart you know you're running a scam, and the real kicker? You suggested my spiritual leanings were the reason for my calling you out. Remember this comment next Sunday when you hit your knees, BOB.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
The only thing I know in my heart is that I try to honor the temple that God has given me, my body. You can post all the spurious comments you want about me. It will not change my message, which is the message that if we put into our bodies what God meant us to we will be health. If we don't, we will not be healthy. If you don't like what I'm doing, move on. You've made your point.
watershed11 2 years ago
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sjrl818 2 years ago
RELIGION- tha'ts funny, because guess what Bob did on the very first day I started haunting him. GUESS! He attacked my character by asserting my spiritual leanings were the very reason I was trying to get him to cough up some data. Bob, him's reel gud at arguin that monotheism angle...
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Dr. Weil is a joke. He is a fat old man and anyone looking at him should wonder what he is doing so they can do the exact opposite. Weil is a sell out. He wouldn't know true health if it hit him in his fat face. Obviously, the guy could use some ionized water.
watershed11 2 years ago
He obviously knows nothing of physiological processes, huh? After all, he's an MD and those guys are the ENEMY....until you get sick.....hey Bob- do you go to the doctor when you get sick? Oh right, I forgot- you don't get sick. HEY- why not provide us all with your medical records? Post them on your business' website! Oh yah, forgot again- you NEVER back up your claims. Sorry, I'm forgetful....you're nothing but conjecture and unsubstantiated claims....I forgot AGAIN....
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
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sjrl818 2 years ago
It's not about me. It's not about Bob McCauley. It's about the products I promote. Ionized water, spirulina, chlorella, raw foods, angstrom minerals, probiotics, FIR sauna. Yeah, I sell them. Because they ARE my lifestyle. People can choose not to use them. It's not anymore complicated than that.
watershed11 2 years ago
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sjrl818 2 years ago
I am always truthful about my claims. I realize that testimonials are not scientific evidence. But I also think too many people are "hung up" on trying to prove everything scientifically. Sometimes nature does not reveal itself so easily.
watershed11 2 years ago
I know lots about biochemistry, have it leaching out in my sweat. It's why Bob won't address my questions, it's why he runs from me...
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
I am not afraid of scientific studies, but if you want every last health claim to come with a study then you won't ever be able to determine anything. Also, if you demand a study for every claim the pharmaceuticals have won and they will be in complete control of everything you put in your body. That is what the CODEX 111 is all about.
watershed11 2 years ago
I don't want every last one; just a verifiable, PEER-REVIEWED one. Like, you know- the OPPOSITE of what's on your website!
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Seems Dr Weil disagrees, BOB......
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Bob- Dr Andrew Weil, you've heard of him, RIGHT? He said, when asked about ionized water, that unless your lungs or kidneys are severly damaged your body's ph will ALWAYS be within normal limits and that- GET THIS- ionized water is a SCAM. Why do you think he feels this way?
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Gatorade? are you kidding me? You need to get your scam straight.
watershed11 2 years ago
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sjrl818 2 years ago
have you ever consumed ionized water? How much and for how long? you are alone in declaring ionized water is a scam. You r a scam. ur trying to keep people from the healthiest substance on earth: ionized water.
watershed11 3 years ago
Respond to the observation, Bob. Exactly how DOES your alkaline water survive as suck in the very, VERY acidic environment of your stomache?Never drank it, so I don't know? In the 50's IRRADIATED WATER was all the rage, made people "feel great"....made their TEETH GLOW, too. Gave them, you know, CANCER. Address the man's comment, Bob. After all, YOU are the debunker, so DEBUNK!
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
Hey Bob- you're a religious man, right? Are you telling us that God made water that is less than perfect in it's pure form? You claim pure water is POISONOUS to our bodies on another video; your God made water that is not already perfect. Imagine that! You claim to be able to fix His little mistake, for a few thousand dollars.....
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
For someone who hates me and everything I do and promote, you sure know a lot about me. Personally, I don't waste my time on people I despise. I ignor them. Your fascination with me is intriguing.
watershed11 2 years ago
I'm more fascinated with your inability to produce verifiable evidence to back up your claims, Bob, than anything else....how much is the Ionizer? Why won't you tell us ALL how much your device costs? You claimed to be a debunker, I challenged your claim, and you tucked your tail and ran away....some black belt.....
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Our prices are on our website. I don't provide them on neutral websites such as YouTube. You act like I'm hiding them. Go to my website, then you can tell the world what I'm charging for a water ionizer that producers the "World's Healthiest Substance".
You referred to me as a black belt. Is there anything about me you don't know?
watershed11 2 years ago
Yah watershed- I don't know how you look yourself in the eyes when you shave every morning....I don't know how you can sleep at night....I don't know how you can go to the trouble of making a debunking video, yet not answer straightforward evidence-based qustions put to you in rebuttal, ON YOUR DEBUNKING VIDEO.......lotta things I don't know about you. And I'm not fascinated with you, I just want you to be a man and provide the evidence to refute my initial observations. I think it's only fair.
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
He wont answer you, typical scam artist- when they are presented with actual based fact that ruins their rip-off scheme they turn tail and hide. I have posted multiple times on these videos and stated actual scientific fact, and he also ignored me and didnt even attempt to try to defend his miracle cure-all. What funny about this video is that it doesnt even debunk anything, lol.
cordovamx 3 years ago
why don't you come out of the shadows and make a video response to my claims. Then you can say exactly what is on your mind.
watershed11 2 years ago
Hey, Bob. Bob? BOB! Heeeeyyy Bob, you know you're going to have to begin your debunking of my comment pretty soon, or the good folks of the 'net are going to start thinking you made this video without having any real, you know, PERSUASIVE EVIDENCE to DEBUNK THE DEBUNKERS, which is what you claim to be able to do. Your words, not mine, BOB. Refute my comments, Bob(the ones posted on this video),and post them HERE, not elsewhere, OK? Can you focus long enough to do that, BOB? Back up your claims.
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
Why did you move this thread to another video, Bob?
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
WATERSHED- Got those studies for me yet?I want the names of the individuals involved, the facilities they were conducted at, the controls used, and the installment and issue of the peer-reviewed journal the findings were published in.Count on my verifying the "evidence". Then the real fun starts!
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
What you are claiming your device does can be accomplished with nothing more than deoinized (ie PURE) water and a few drops of sodium hypochlorite (bleach) for an alkaline water, or a few drops of lemon juice for acidity. NOW- I've just touched upon a few really, really basic principals which are both good science and easily verifiable as such; let's hear your "science".As you requested, I WANT YOU TO BE SPECIFIC.You did not look at my channel, did you?Bit yourself off a big chunk this time....
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
WATERSHED-another example of our body's ph homeostatic mechanism is found in the various types of cells we are made of; for instance, the ph of one connective tissue (like blood) is kept at a different level by our bodies than another (like gastrointestinal squamous epithelium).To suggest that our bodies fluids and tissues need to be kept at one certain ph level is to sugest that the human body can exist in a sort of ph stasis, which is, you know- IGNORANT of basic human biochemistry.
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
WATERSHED- alkalinity and acidity is determined by the percentage of either hydrogen or hydroxide ions; passing an electric gharge through pure water does absolutely nothing, and to suggest it does is, well, infantile and reveals your ignorance of basic chemistry. Our bodies have different degrees of acidity and alkalinity, both in fluids and tissues.For instance, saliva, blood, and sweat are all regulated by our bodies to have their own specific ph.....
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
Where was the debunking, exactly? SHOW ME THE CLINICAL STUDIES. Even a high school chemistry student knows this crap is a rip off....
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
I am debunkers the people who denounce ionized water. What is it that high school school chemistry has taught you that demonstrates ionized water is a rip off. Be specific. I have 30 pages of Scientific Studies in my book on ionized water. What chemistry do you have to offer that contradicts my claims? I am waiting for you evidence. Please don't disappoint me like ALL the other debunkers who never seem to be able to come up with any answers when I ask for them.
watershed11 3 years ago
Well, let's see....first, pure water can be made neither acidic nor alkaline by electrolysis; that would require the addition of a metal such as calcium (yes, it's a METAL);ingestion of alkaline substances DOES NOT reduce the body's acidity- that's done by- wait for it- RESPIRATION.Osmosis into cells has nothing to do with "water cluster size", as water exists as individual molecules held together by hydrogen bonds, and "breaking up" water into smaller molecules is called HYDROLYSIS.
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
high school chemistry? ok - here we go again...
I answered EVERY question that you had, I presented FACTS several months ago and you responded with absolutely nothing. and all those "studies" you show? Interesting how they were all performed by people with no degrees and not one of them show up on any ISI registries. Basic chemical principles show that water is constantly being ionized by itself, passing an electric current through water does nothing to it, absolutely nothing-
cordovamx 3 years ago 2
whats really funny is that you all taught the thrills of an alkaline diet...but yet EVERYTHING we eat is turned alkaline anyway by pancreatic enzymes...oh no..sorry, I didnt mean to ruin your utopian miracle cure...
and since regular h20 cant conduct electricity, passing a current does nothing to the h20 molecule, dang man...your two most fundamental arguments just got shot down...stinks when someone comes along and they actually know what they are talking about huh?
cordovamx 3 years ago
This is why I don't listen much to doctors anymore. They try and cure everything with expensive & harmful drugs when there are amazing inexpensive natural foods that heal your body with no side effects. In the future people will look at our doctors now the same way we look at doctors centuries ago who used to try & cure everything with leaches.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Medicine is progressive in it's learning, so is every other vocation and profession, that's how it should be. But to slander all medications as "harmful", etc. is a misnomer and the sign of one who doesn't know as much about pharmacology. Granted some have side effects, but a vast majority are completely harmless. There are MILLIONS of lives prolonged, saved and made better via pharmaceuticals every year.
cordovamx 3 years ago
Ur right, sum aren't harmful & some do actually work but I bet you can find some natural food that can cure you just as well (if not better). I can think of so many examples of people I know who have cured conditions wiv improved diets after having no success wiv prescribed medications (which in a lot of cases was actually making the condition worse). Unfortunately big pharma makes too much $s from drugs that they don't want people to know they can cure themselves with inexpensive natural cures.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
One thing I have really enjoyed about our conversation is that once you know you have been proven wrong you change the subject, its actually quite entertaining.
cordovamx 3 years ago
I'm not changing the subject. You kept saying I needed to study physiology and I was pointing out that even people with vast amount of qualifications & knowledge (orthodox knowledge) of the human body still don't really understand how it works judging by the fact that I've found that it is the alternative doctors & medicines that have given most joy.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Also, what incentive would anyone have to call this a scam? The only competition "ionized water" could possibly have is logic. People who want you to believe ionized water is a good thing stand to lose a lot of business if it gets out that it doesn't do anything. People arguing against it have nothing to gain or lose relative to this argument.
kashmir010944 3 years ago
It's just sad to see people lie about factual chemistry and physiology to make money off of people who don't know better-
cordovamx 3 years ago
I'm going to go ahead and assume that the three accounts arguing that this water is a good thing work for the company... or even own the company that produces it. There are no miracle cures. Relax. But I don't know... if people are stupid enough to fall for this, I guess they deserve to lose their money to you.
kashmir010944 3 years ago
Also cordovamx, you claim that pancreatic enzymes will alkalize any substances anyway. There is some truth in this. Trouble is the more H+ ions and toxins you consume, the more energy and enzymes your body has to waste to eliminate them which takes it toll on the body. Why not consume water and food which is already alkalizing and non-toxic therefore not wasting the bodies energy and nutrients?
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Our pancreatic enzymes that deal with neutralization are extremely powerful and are highly regulated, producing and activating them once digestion occurs takes no toll on the body and is harmless, consuming water and food that is "alkaline" will not have the large impact on the amount of enzymes secreted and used as you think. The bodies pH is VASTLY different throughout the body, it is highly regulated by buffers and enzymes- consuming alkaline substances has little effect on the "bodies pH".
cordovamx 3 years ago
Ingesting acidic or alkaline foods has a relatively low (if any) impact on the overall body pH- if you want to be less "acidic", take a few extra deep breaths, it's free and more effective than taking special water. (blood pH is regulated via the pulmonary system) Taking in more alkaline fluids and such will actually have the opposite effect, since your body has to work harder to keep things within its best pH ranges throughout the body.
cordovamx 3 years ago
Isn't your logic an oxymoron? What I mean is that the more alkaline food you ingest, it is well known that your parietal cells within in your gastric mucosa produces more Hydrochloric (HCL) acid to neutralize it, so therefore (according to your logic previously mentioned) if I ingest substances that are too alkaline won't I be overworking my stomach and expending "nutrients and energy" wastefully? Sorry my friend but that's not how it works...
cordovamx 3 years ago
That's different. It's easy for the body to produce acids (like free radicals) because they're essentially waste products. It's a lot harder for the body to produce alkali's because it needs a lot of oxygen and alkaline minerals which are sadly lacking in most peoples diet.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Do you know what a free radical is? Apparently not- it is a free electron, not an acid, lol, and no, free radicals are not waste products, nor are acids, our bodies produce many acidic compounds daily, and they also produce a slew of alkaline products daily, both of which require the same amount of energy and several different elemental compounds. The body easily produces alkaline substances, it sounds to me like you are making this up as you go.
cordovamx 3 years ago
Sounds like you're the one who doesn't know what a free radical is! It is not a free electron, LOL, it is an uncharged molecule that requires an electron and will take it from your cells hence breaking them down and leading to aging. Acids and free radicals are essentially waste products but are useful to the body if regulated properly such as for the surface of the skin to hinder bacteria & viruses. Maybe you should learn some physiology.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
It is extremely well known throughout the chemistry world that a free electron is a free radical, In chemistry, radicals (often referred to as free radicals) are atoms, molecules or ions with unpaired electrons on an otherwise open shell configuration. These unpaired electrons are usually highly reactive, so radicals are likely to take part in chemical reactions. This is BASIC chemistry- this is verifiable from ANY high school chemistry text- and from ANY chemistry website, google "Free Radical"
cordovamx 3 years ago
a free radical is most certainly a charged molecule or free electron. Acids are not wasted products, our bodies produce many acidic substances that are used throughout the body. Skin secretions true are slightly acidic (some are, some are alkaline though). Please, you are wasting my time and your time with your arguments that are based on nothing more than pure pseudoscience and simply false physiological concepts.
cordovamx 3 years ago
A no. of years ago I had mild acne and my doctor said that there was not much I could do just a period I had to go thru. I tried a detox diet (even tho most doctors said there was no proof they worked) & the effects were amazing. The grease causing the acne completely went, my skin glowed & felt awesome. Why did my doctor, with all his knowledge, not know about this? Why do doctors claim there is no evidence that detox diet work? Cos they try & prove everything on paper & misinterpret the facts.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
you have stated "Cos they try & prove everything on paper & misinterpret the facts." In all my years of clinical experience I have NEVER once met any physician or clinician who fits this description- but rather the complete opposite. Any doctor worth his/her salt learns the most from clinical experience, period. (not whatever elusive "paper" term you are using). So what makes you better qualified than a physician to understand and interpret facts? So far you have been grossly mislead.
cordovamx 3 years ago
You results sound like you stopped eating greasy or fatty foods, good on ya- every physician knows that a diet lower in those substances will decrease acne severity, and possibly eliminate it. There is no way to "detoxify" the body, this term is very misleading, our bodies do an incredible job of regulating its internal environment on its own. Eating healthy and exercising does the same thing, if not more effectively than any "juice detox", etc. The only magical cure is to exercise and eat right
cordovamx 3 years ago
Most doctors know that detox diets are false because of the tremendous amount of research that proves their falsities. Better results are achieved with eating healthy, and exercising regularly, which is FAR more effective than any colon cleansing juice diet.
cordovamx 3 years ago
The fact is my doctor never once mentioned anything about changing my diet. I even did some research on acne & all these qualified people seemed to marginalize the role diet plays in causing acne when in fact it is almost solely the reason for it. & yes, the detox diet I did back then was not the best diet but it did the job so to claim they are false is absurd. I now eat a more varied form of a diet detox with lots of superfoods & I'm in the best shape of my life.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
free radicals are rarely waste products, but we do produce quite a few specialized proteins whose entire existence is devoted to the elimination of free radicals, and it is true that different foods digested provide some of these proteins. Oil and sebaceous glands under the skin produce saebum, a slightly acidic oily substance to protect from pathogens, the body produces this on it's own, it doesn't use "waste by-products" by the way. Hope that helps clear up your confusion on that matter.
cordovamx 3 years ago
by the way, most uncharged molecules are stable and will not readily acquire and electron, those that do are simply more electro-negative than others, this doesn't make them free radicals at all (where you got that idea, who knows).
cordovamx 3 years ago
Why then did you state earlier that disease thrives in an acidic body? Isn't this last statement counter-intuitive to your argument about the benefits of ionized water? Pathogens and diseases cannot survive in an acidic environment, why do you think that so many body secretions are acidic? Because they protect the body from possible pathogenic threats. If disease thrived in acid then we would have all died out a long time ago since we would have been incubators for disease.
cordovamx 3 years ago
and how is that different? According to your logic you would be overworking your poor little stomach cells. That's exactly what you are saying. Please, do yourself a favor and learn basic human physiology, it'll save you the time of trying to fabricate points out of thin air (of which it is obvious you are doing).
cordovamx 3 years ago
Interestingly enough you mentioned that the key to good health is eating lots of fruit & veg. Why's that? Cos they have an alkalizing effect on the body unlike most other foods. Just coincidence that alcohol, fast food, cigarettes, drugs (all the things that are bad for us etc) happen to be very acidifying.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Many fruits and several vegetables are slightly acidic. I've said this before- ALL substances you ingest, no matter their pH are alkalized, so the pH of food you eat is all brought above 7, REGARDLESS of what you eat. These foods do not affect body pH (which is a meaningless term since the bodies pH varies VASTLY depending on where in the body you are looking, stomach juices are around 1-2 pH while other interstitial fluids may be 8 or 9). I would suggest learning a thing or two about physiology
cordovamx 3 years ago
It's not about the pH of a food in its natural state. It's about the ash it leaves once it's metabolized. Lemon juice is very acidic but it leaves a very alkaline ash after being used by the body. Please go on a diet of strictly alkalizing foods and then tell me it makes no difference!!! This is the trouble with most scientists, they try and prove everything on paper and just misinterpret all their knowledge. You're just saying what you see but have no idea how the body achieves it.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
the "ash"?...umm...ok...lol
Just saying what I see? Not hardly- I've studied all of these processes EXTENSIVELY in a lab and know very well what I am talking about, I know very well how the body achieves these processes because I have participated in clinical research extensively that involves these very processes. You have yet to say anything remotely true about a physiological process. All of what you have said could be debunked by any physiology text.
cordovamx 3 years ago
All food digested in our bodies metabolizes, or burns, down to an ash residue. This ash residue can be neutral, acidic, or alkaline, depending mostly on the mineral content of the original food.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
all food digested is broken down and it's monomers are utilized for energy and bodily functions and are mostly absorbed in the small intestine, what is left over (mostly un-digestible matter) is excreted as feces (not too sure where your "ash" term comes from, lol) And true, it's pH can vary, but not a whole lot, usually from 6.5-8
cordovamx 3 years ago
we are constantly producing these enzymes and digestive chemicals- the more you eat the more you produce, it has no harmful effect to produce more, nor is it a waste of energy at all. Our bodies own systems are phenominally well adapted to dealing with regulating itself, it really doesn't need a whole lot of help. (unless of course you mistreat it) That's why eating healthy and exercising is the best plan to stay healthy and live a long and happy life- no miracle cures needed.
cordovamx 3 years ago
Cordovamx, you don't know what you're talking about. The first few times I tried ionized water I experienced an amazing head rush as did some my friends. I've never had that with regular tap water or mineral water so to claim that ionized water is the same as tap water is completely false and shows you know nothing.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
lol, experienced a "head rush"? Sure there wasn't something else in the water? Ionized water is really no different than regular tap, its chemical content is essentially the same. But heck, if it works for you, then power to ya.
cordovamx 3 years ago
what you experienced sounds more like the placebo effect than an actual result of anything in the water. Does this head rush occur every time you drink the water? If it does then there might be a actual physiological reason behind it, but if it only happened the first or second time and not after that then I might suggest that it was entirely neurological (it was all in your head).
cordovamx 3 years ago
Wrong! It happened the first two times I took it and it was very noticeable. I assume it hasn't happened again cos my body is now used to it. The proof that isn't a placebo effect is that 2 skeptical friends tried some (who I hadn't told about the head rush effect) and they both reported the exact same thing without prompting & were quite surprised. Although I think it depends on the health and age of the person cos my mum didn't experience it.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
...That's ridiculous. You probably told these friends about how amazing this water is and how it would change their lives and since they had the same expectation as you had going in, they experienced a similar effect.
kashmir010944 3 years ago
Err... Did you read what I wrote? I said I never told them anything about getting a head rush and they were also very cynical about ionized water. Why after mocking me for buying a water ionizer would they both suddenly admit they experienced a head rush unless they actually had done? Maybe you should try some on an empty stomach and see for yourself. Don't knock it till you've tried it!
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Millions of people have consumed ionized water and found it incredibly beneficial. It's consumed extensively across Japan. Placebos don't travel around the world and produce powerful testimonials where ever they are tried.
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sjrl818 2 years ago
Ask ol' Bob how much a deionizer costs. I DARE you. While you're at it, ask him why the water his God made for us to drink is somehow lacking compared to his Ionized water.....
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
Bob will proceed to ignore you now, as he cannot begin to back up his claims and only made this video because sceptics have been haunting him since he first began selling these gizmos on tne 'net. Go look at his business website- he has a whole page devoted to debunkers, and no evidence to contradict their claims against his little snakeoil device...Bob truly is a pussy when it comes to standing behind his product!
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
You mean that millions of people have independently have come to the conclusion that IW is great and they feel better drinking it. And you want piles of scientific studies and data. You sound like the government.
watershed11 2 years ago
Not piles, BOB, just those relevant to my rebuttal.
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sjrl818 2 years ago
Sure they do. Ever been to a revival, Bob?
homeostasis4me 2 years ago
just because you had a "head rush" doesn't mean a thing- people who smoke pot and do crack get "head rushes" too, lol, so I guess due to the very scientific nature of head rushes (I hope you sense my sarcasm here), then that must mean that illegal drugs and alcohol are also good, since they produce a head rush. You cannot base the validity of something on a "head rush", whatever that means- a head rush is no more than a nerval response to an expected stimuli- hence, the placebo.
cordovamx 3 years ago
Actually, the point I was trying to make originally is that ionized water has different properties to tap water and as I have stated a number of times now "IT WAS NOT A PLACEBO EFFECT!"
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
The water ionizer is the best thing you could ever buy. It's transformed my health.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Thanks for your comments. There are a lot of people who have never tried ionized water and all they can do is denounce it and call me a fake, a fraud and a phony. Ionized Water is the healthiest substance we can consume.
watershed11 3 years ago
interestingly enough...regular tap water has the same effect in multiple side by side double blind studies performed by several medical schools and universities...
cordovamx 3 years ago
give me one study that was performed by a medical school. You can't because there were no studies. You are a liar.
Dillestman 3 years ago
nope, just being truthful. When you get the chance take a peak at many of the graduate students' senior research projects done in accordance with many university faculty; most universities have performed at least one study on ionized water. Their studies and results can be found at their university library. I will leave it up to you to do the foot work. (something tells me you won't though)
cordovamx 3 years ago
and why is it that regular tap water has the same effects? Because it and "ionized water" are the same thing. Anything ingested becomes alkaline, a myriad of pancreatic enzymes are activated once they come into contact with the duodenum; making anything you eat alkaline, so the more alkaline substances are ingested, the more HCL your parietal cells in your stomach produce to neutralize it. Ingesting large amounts of alkaline substances can lead to metabolic alkalosis, which can be fatal.
cordovamx 3 years ago
but yet when challenged by someone who actually knows a thing or two about chemistry and human physiology you return no argument and just ignore them...I wonder why...
cordovamx 3 years ago
You say that a water ionizer has transformed your health. But can you be sure of that? Could it have been, and I presume you also did this, a shift to alkaline foods. I am not debunking water ionizers, as before today I never heard of them, but can you please elaborate on how it transformed your health. I would be eager to hear this, from someone who has tried it.
53531640 3 years ago
Hi mate, I was actually eating lots of alkalizing foods a few years b4 I got the ionizer as well as only drinking mineral water & exercising lots so when I got the ionizer I didnt xpect it to make much difference tbh. So I was quite surprised when I got a head/body rush the 1st time I tried it. After 2/3 wks I noticed I had the suppleness of a 10 yr old and I could exercise for hours everyday and not get any muscle stiffness (which I put down to lactic acid being neutralized easily).
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
Also, as fate wd hav it, a month or so after gettin the ionizer I picked up an horrific sports injury wiv severe ankle ligament damage. The doctor told me after looking at the x-rays that it was a really nasty injury & it wd take at least a year to fix wiv lots of hard physio work. After 3 months wiv only 2 physio sessions my ankle was fully healed & I was back playing sport. My physio couldn't believe it. At the 2nd session he sent me home after 5 mins cos my ankle was fine.
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
You certainly present an awesome testimony to using an ionizer. I have just started the journey of eating a more alkaline diet, so I will see how far that takes me first and then look more into ionizers. At the moment I am aiming for 60 - 80% alkaline foods, barley grass and spirulina drink and green tea. The man at the healthfood store also mentions a alkalising powder additive to water, but said because I was going onto the barley grass it would be overkill, whats your opinion?
53531640 3 years ago
Best to take it slowly as the detoxification process will be more intense the more alkalizing your diet is. Try to avoid mixing v. acidifying & v. alkalizing foods as this will leave you feelin v. tired & will give you spots as your body keeps expelling the toxins thru ur skin. The detox period can take weeks to months so stick with it. Btw, the ionizer doesnt just create water that is alkaline, it's also antioxidant wiv v. small microclusters which makes it easy to absorb. U can drink gallons!
Sitcomstu 3 years ago
It's a MIRACLE!
homeostasis4me 3 years ago
you are a complete idiot with absolutely no experience with Physiology and Chemistry- any high school student of either of these subjects can easily debunk any of your arguments. Its sad you are ripping people off by taking advantage of the placebo effect. dont buy ionized water- its a crock and a joke, if you know any basic chemical and physiological principles you can understand why all of the ionized water followers are completely duped and falling for this utter garbage.
cordovamx 3 years ago
I actualy checked out the snake oil "debunker"
and non of his reference linked checked out and some of the stuff he says about chemistry just isn't true. I know, I'm lab tech, i do this shit. He's a retired teacher and theres a reason they only teach and don't practice the art, because there idiots.
186282396 3 years ago
Thanks for your comments. This guys needs to be debunked himself. I have always wondered who's paying him to say this nonsense. He is standing firmly against the greatest health product ever invented.
watershed11 3 years ago
the greatest health product ever invented? Are you kidding me? Any high school chemistry student could debunk this ionized water myth. I would highly recommend getting some education in the field of physiology and chemistry, you will then see that all of the ionized water claims are fabricated myths that are nothing but expensive placebo's.
cordovamx 3 years ago
you and your high school chemistry. Show me the chemistry of how ionized water is nonsense and you will make me a believer. But you won't because you can't. I'm waiting for your chemistry.
watershed11 3 years ago
me and my high-school chemistry? Well heck if you refuse to believe established scientific fact that irrefutable then so be it, I can't help ya there. Ionized water is nonsense because it is no different than regular tap water...actually regular tap has a better mineral content (relatively speaking). Lol, "I won't because I can't"? (real grown up comment by the way). I would be happy to show you how proper chemistry and physiology function, give me a claim and I would be happy to refute it.
cordovamx 3 years ago
and my example of using "high-school" was implying that even the most basic concepts of molecular chemistry could easily put a damper of the ionized water claims. For one, all water "clusters", but it only does so for pico-seconds, and nature does it on its own for free, amazingly enough you don't need an expensive machine to do it. (shocker!) regular water forms these clusters and they are so unstable (since water is unstable) that they are negligible for any "benefit for better absorption".
cordovamx 3 years ago
...still patiently waiting for a claim from you...
cordovamx 3 years ago
lol- your post is pretty laughable. The basic concepts of physiology and chemistry are enough alone to debunk this pseudoscience. Anyone who has even the remotest experience with college chemistry and college human physiology can see right through this garbage. From your grammar its pretty obvious you skipped out on quite a bit of school, and what facility on earth hired you if your a lab tech? I hope that you never have anything to do with actual patients.
cordovamx 3 years ago
The debunkers of ionized water are being paid by someone to say the ridiculous things they say. I guaranty it.
watershed11 3 years ago
um..I think you mean "guarantee"? Lol- so much for credibility eh? The debunkers of ionized water are anyone who has taken basic chemistry and physiology and knows better- "ionized water" is quite ridiculous since all water is ionized.
cordovamx 3 years ago
all water is ionized? You are exposing yourself as a phony. who are you? What's your email. engage me in something other than insults. give me your credentials. I'm a Certified Nutritional Consultant. Do you know ANYTHING about natural health.
Dillestman 3 years ago
exposing myself as a phony? How? By stating something that you aren't willing to study? All water is ionized, meaning there are OH- and H+ ions, water with a neutral pH has [OH-] and [H+] with the concentrated molarity of 10^-7. There are metal, and organic ions in ALL water. The term "ionized water" is synonymous with regular ole tap water. It chemically is meaningless. All substances consumed in the body are eventually made alkaline anyway by pancreatic enzymes. Truth hurts doesn't it?
cordovamx 3 years ago
give me the truth and I'll let you know if it hurts. phony.
Dillestman 3 years ago
lol, I just did. But unfortunately your retort was void of any sort of return argument, a sign that you aren't willing to defend your stance and that you lack the information necessary to do so. So instead you throw out a personal insult...ah the hallmark of the defeated.
cordovamx 3 years ago
why do you want my email? Lol- I am a chemistry major and have seen many of these "claims" of ionized water debunked time and time again in a lab and in many clinical trials. It's a joke. Oh so your a CNC? Wow, did your degree come mail ordered, did you pay for 50$ and fill out a form and walla- your a CNC? Are you a nationally registered dietition? If not then you are no more qualified to give medical advice than my dog. The head of the CNC has how many criminal convictions again?
cordovamx 3 years ago
I want your email because you are a phony that hides behind a fake name like all the other debunkers - I've yet to successfully engage one of them in a debate. They hide behind fake names and websites where no one can contact them. You are obviously one of them.
Dillestman 3 years ago
You do realize that the CNC program is nothing more than a mail order degree program right? The AANC has never been certified in ANYTHING, and their founder was convicted of MULTIPLE charges of practicing medicine without a license. As long as your have 50 bucks, a few minutes to fill out a questionaire, anyone can become a "CNC". In the last "National Profile Directory of Nutritional Consultants" only 3% (?!?!) had anything close that resembled a medical degree.
cordovamx 3 years ago
don't worry about my credentials. Worry about ionized water. You are fraud who won't come out from behind your mask. Phony.
Dillestman 3 years ago
lol- oh don;t care to dispute any of my points huh? typical...
Why should I worry about you credentials? (or immense lack there of). A fraud? How? What mask are you referring to? I'll gladly give you the address to my house and all of my college transcripts. I haven't hid anything from you. I think it's funny that when you are confronted by factual knowledge all you can do is call me a phony without remotely defending your argument.
cordovamx 3 years ago
lol...guess it was a mail order degree...haha
cordovamx 3 years ago
I actually enjoy many aspects of "natural health". Unfortunately, it's just eating healthy and getting plenty of exercise that works. There are no "miracle remedies" or "fountains of youth", just plain ol' eating your veggies and fruits and getting enough sleep. But being a CNC means you have 50 bucks and some time on your hands. As far as my credentials? Pre-med student, chemistry/physiology major and lots of experience in multiple labs and medicine, all through an ACCREDITED (real) University.
cordovamx 3 years ago
wow- how about a lesson in proper grammar? your a lab tech? what facility on earth hired you? Apparently you were sleeping through your physiology and chemistry labs...I pray they don't let you have anything to with actual living patients...
cordovamx 3 years ago
Ionization means to gain or lose an electron. Ionization dramatically changes the ORP (mV) of the water. Explain it genius, with your high school chemistry.
Dillestman 3 years ago
gladly! Your elementary explanation of both processes are correct, so no argument there, but they have relatively little effect when consumed in the body, if water is potable enough to drink then it's orp value is negligible, since it is relatively equal to regular tap water. This is basic acid/base chemical physiology.
cordovamx 3 years ago
yeah this guy is believable, I especially like his blue-screen background--very peaceful
sorry bud, but you can't argue with fundamental acid/base chemistry
kwelsh6 3 years ago
unfortunately he won't take the time to learn the factual chemistry and physiology- ionized water is probably the biggest joke and an even bigger scam.
cordovamx 3 years ago
Read my book, The Miraculous Properties of Ionized Water, and you'll get 30 pages of scientific studies that have been performed on ionized water. Or are all those scientists in the "scam" as well.
watershed11 3 years ago
I looked at your book, and once I got passed all the bad punctuation and grammar, it's just stretched facts and misinformation that the uneducated are wow'ed by. The studies mentioned are ironically done by people who do not show up on ANY I.N.I. registries. hmm...I wonder why?...
cordovamx 3 years ago
a quote from your web page "To conclude that consuming a substance which is 100 times more alkaline than the body ought to be is not beneficial to our health is to demonstrate you know nothing about Ionized Water and body pH." Consuming ANYTHING that alkaline will cause metabolic alkalosis, a condition if left untreated immediately can kill you. The above quote alone proves your lack of understanding on the subject.
cordovamx 3 years ago
lol. Most people don't believe because they are distracted by science and propaganda that says only doctors can treat people. Well if you are foolish enough to believe that, you are a disgrace to your species and a shame to god who has already given you every tool to stay healthy. Humans are designed by nature to drink naturally occurring ionized water, and so are animals. Many animals suck on scum to survive, but you don't see them getting diabetes do you? and yes, animals can get diabetes.
jihadjared 3 years ago
ya and fucken FLUORIDE AND CHLORINE (ACIDS) aren't in natural water sources like the crap they put in our tap.
also interesting how the origenal use of fluoride was given to the nazi concentration camp inmates to KEEP THEM DOSIL AND CALM.
186282396 3 years ago
nice use of the english language (rolling eyes). What's wrong with fluoride and chlorine? They prevent our water system from becoming contaminated by pathogens and save literally millions of lives every year. Chlorine evaporates as soon as you turn your faucet on, and has no effects whatsoever. Fluoride prevents you and I from getting dental carries and helps to strengthen enamel. And no, they are not acids, they are low reacting non-metals.
cordovamx 3 years ago