@redninja2010 I totally disagree. God created the earth for us to rule over - everything living and breathing on the earth. It is VERY much our responsibility to live sustainably, to care for the environment, to meet physical needs, to usher in heaven here on earth. Your work here on earth ("this age") will extend to your work in heaven ("the age to come"). Heaven is a place where God's and only God's will is done, and He wants us to start living that way now!
Absolutely they're focusing on the Gospel - the full one that doesn't exclude Jesus' teachings. Jesus' Gospel was so much more than salvation after death, it was the Gospel of the kingdom - "Your Kingdom come, your will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN". This is about reclaiming the full Gospel that Jesus taught. True, we're told that things will get worse but that's why we need to work harder.
Absolutely they're focusing on the Gospel - the full one that doesn't exclude Jesus' teachings. Jesus' Gospel was so much more than salvation after death, it was the Gospel of the kingdom - "Your Kingdom come, your will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN". This is about reclaiming the full Gospel that Jesus taught. True, we're told that things will get worse but that's why we need to work harder.
Chuck I'm just going off my knowledge of the original Greek and two years of Bible College. It's nice to think hell isn't real and that Jesus never spoke of it. But answer this. When Jesus said in Matt 10:28 "be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" was He telling us that God would destroy our soul in a garbage dump south of Jerusalem? Or was he saying God would destroy our soul in The Valley of Hinnom? How does the garbage dump or the valley fit in Matthew 23:33 either?
Thanks for your comments. The following verses where Jesus talks about hell can be found in any of the major translations of the Bible. Please give me your thoughts. These are just a few of them. If these 17 verses are not enough then I'm not sure what to say.
@travisrusko Jesus never talked about hell. That you attribute this to him otherwise is only based on your own interpretation of scriptures. Jesus did talk about a garbage dump south of Jerusalem called Gehenna, or The Valley of Hinnom. Jesus never talked about the kind of hell that is featured in Dante's Inferno.
According to the Book of James, he challenges those who have faith without works to prove their faith, saying "faith without works is dead!" People are more than likely going to follow a person who sacrifices his life to help others more than someone who is preachy and telling people they need to pledge allegiance to a god to get out of a bad situation that odds are they don't even deserve in the first place!
Now THIS is what Christianity is all about! LOVE, accpeting that we all have scars and flaws and that God is in the love we show to each other! This IS a whole new kind of revolution arrising in ironically that same time that such evil and hate is uprising. The ultimate battle of good and evil is beginning around us. Praise the Lord brother!
I believe the church should stick with the gospel for the purpose of seeing people saved, instead of trying to mix politics in with it. I'll be honest I don't really think their is a left or right, i think it's to side of the same coin with the same agenda. This whole left and right paradigm is false and is diving christians and the church world.
This is probably one of the most refreshing thing I've seen in a long time. It's about time people start doing compassionate things in the name of God instead of starting wars in his name.
I know the first and last songs in the trailer are from mewithoutyou but does anyone know who does the acoustic piece in the middle.
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Earlier, someone was upset because I said Shane was a heretic. I did not say shane is a heretic because he wants to take care of the poor. The poor need help. I said he is a heretic because in his new book, he says that when Christ said the gates of hell will not stand up against the church, that what Christ meant is one day all the Christians will storm the gates of hell with Jesus and rescue the people inside. I have heard him speak in person and this is only one of his many many lies.
It's called THEOLOGY. Everyone interprets what they read in the bible in a different way. No one is wrong and no one is right. Just the fact that instead of focusing on the amazing things a person does, you choose something they say that you don't like and focus on that, says so much. What a waste of time and energy. Instead of calling names, go out there and do something for someone who needs it.
"no one is wrong and no one is right"? that is quite possibly the stupidest most ignorant, self defeating statement that could ever be spoken. Just think about it for a second. Do you think you are right is stating that? ...then you just proved yourself wrong. Do you think I am wrong by disagreeing? ...then you just proved yourself wrong.
centeredonchrist ... just for the sake of argument.... MiaSays was referring to theology i.e. biblical interpretation ... the statement "No one is wrong and no one is right" is not a biblical quote and there for falls out of the realm of her argument rendering your comment nearly as ignorant as the one you were attacking ... good try though if we're going to argue lets at least be rational in doing so.
what on earth are you talking about? (i already talked to her and she explained what she meant by that, which was not what i thought it meant [i didn't read it very closely... most ppl that comment on youtube are retarded so i just figured...])
I am not saying he is right or you are right, but it seems neither of you have a good argument to support your theory there. if you want to get caught up in worrying about the afterlife, go ahead. But as for me, I'm going to try to prepare as many as I can for the Kingdom of God that is here today with what I do know and what scripture does say.
It is wonderful to see people turning away from the lies of false prophets like James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and John Hage. They have confused worship of empire and power with worship of Jesus. They have replaced love your enemy and love your neighbor with love of the American empire and have sold out for money and lust for political power. Thankfully, the evil reign of the "Religious Right" is at an end.
I don't understand how you can speak for everyone on the right and marginalize people who may sway to the conservative side of things. And calling people false prophets is a serious accusation, and yet I'm assuming that you think that people like Brian Mclaren is teaching biblical truth. I don't believe that patriotism should be lumped in with the Gospel and I am a conservative,
I don't understand how you can sit there and lump all conservatives in together, yet I assume you support the people in this video who want to turn the bible into a leftist, marxist handbook to take down imperialism. Come on! drop the political agenda, the gospel has nothing to do with man's futile philosophy's political or otherwise,
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shane claiborne is full of lies. He is a heretic. I have heard him speak more than once. He never mentions hell. He simply talks about leading people to Christ by being a good person and doing nice things for them. He is a liar.
That is far from the truth. He by no means says that by being a good person do we enter heaven, I just find that people get uneasy at his call, mimicking Jesus' call to not only serve the poor but stand in solidarity with them. Selling all we have and giving to the needy and relying on the Lord as our soul provider... I can understand why people would accuse him of being a "heretic", makes more sense to persecute someone who stands up for those whom america wishes to get rid of
i did not say shane is a heretic because he wants to take care of the poor. i said he is a heretic because in his new book, he says that when Christ said the gates of hell will not stand up against the church, that what Christ meant is one day all the Christians will storm the gates of hell with Jesus and rescue the people inside. I have heard him speak in person and this is only one of his many many lies.
I would suggest reading what N.T. Wright has to say about heaven and hell in his book, Surprised by Hope, before calling Shane or anyone else who says little if anything about hell.
@ChuckK3 Shane actualy has metioned hell i remember in his book he said something about the concept of hell being hard to grasp he didnt talk alot or dwell on it but he never said there is no hell or presented any bad theology. i think most of his stuff is right!
To be away from God is what I would consider hell
jwdesign336 5 months ago
@redninja2010 I totally disagree. God created the earth for us to rule over - everything living and breathing on the earth. It is VERY much our responsibility to live sustainably, to care for the environment, to meet physical needs, to usher in heaven here on earth. Your work here on earth ("this age") will extend to your work in heaven ("the age to come"). Heaven is a place where God's and only God's will is done, and He wants us to start living that way now!
atpanda27 9 months ago
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Absolutely they're focusing on the Gospel - the full one that doesn't exclude Jesus' teachings. Jesus' Gospel was so much more than salvation after death, it was the Gospel of the kingdom - "Your Kingdom come, your will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN". This is about reclaiming the full Gospel that Jesus taught. True, we're told that things will get worse but that's why we need to work harder.
ThunderstormPhil 9 months ago
Absolutely they're focusing on the Gospel - the full one that doesn't exclude Jesus' teachings. Jesus' Gospel was so much more than salvation after death, it was the Gospel of the kingdom - "Your Kingdom come, your will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN". This is about reclaiming the full Gospel that Jesus taught. True, we're told that things will get worse but that's why we need to work harder.
ThunderstormPhil 9 months ago
these kind of people make me proud to be a christian!
kwork7 11 months ago
Chuck I'm just going off my knowledge of the original Greek and two years of Bible College. It's nice to think hell isn't real and that Jesus never spoke of it. But answer this. When Jesus said in Matt 10:28 "be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" was He telling us that God would destroy our soul in a garbage dump south of Jerusalem? Or was he saying God would destroy our soul in The Valley of Hinnom? How does the garbage dump or the valley fit in Matthew 23:33 either?
travisrusko 1 year ago
ChuckK3,
Thanks for your comments. The following verses where Jesus talks about hell can be found in any of the major translations of the Bible. Please give me your thoughts. These are just a few of them. If these 17 verses are not enough then I'm not sure what to say.
Matt 5:29 - 30, Matt 10:28, Matt 11:23, Matt 16:18, Matt 18:9, Matt 23:15, Matt 23:33, Mark 9:43, Mark 9:45, Mark 9:47, Luke 10:15, Luke 12:5, Luke 16:23, Rev 6:8, and Rev 20:13 - 14.
travisrusko 1 year ago
@travisrusko Jesus never talked about hell. That you attribute this to him otherwise is only based on your own interpretation of scriptures. Jesus did talk about a garbage dump south of Jerusalem called Gehenna, or The Valley of Hinnom. Jesus never talked about the kind of hell that is featured in Dante's Inferno.
ChuckK3 1 year ago
According to the Book of James, he challenges those who have faith without works to prove their faith, saying "faith without works is dead!" People are more than likely going to follow a person who sacrifices his life to help others more than someone who is preachy and telling people they need to pledge allegiance to a god to get out of a bad situation that odds are they don't even deserve in the first place!
ChuckK3 1 year ago
Now THIS is what Christianity is all about! LOVE, accpeting that we all have scars and flaws and that God is in the love we show to each other! This IS a whole new kind of revolution arrising in ironically that same time that such evil and hate is uprising. The ultimate battle of good and evil is beginning around us. Praise the Lord brother!
SkylarAlyxis 1 year ago 2
I believe the church should stick with the gospel for the purpose of seeing people saved, instead of trying to mix politics in with it. I'll be honest I don't really think their is a left or right, i think it's to side of the same coin with the same agenda. This whole left and right paradigm is false and is diving christians and the church world.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
interesting.
patiencecoral 2 years ago
Wow! that's all i have to say, am so inspired by "new conspirators in God's loving society"
MaddieIsobel 2 years ago
This is probably one of the most refreshing thing I've seen in a long time. It's about time people start doing compassionate things in the name of God instead of starting wars in his name.
I know the first and last songs in the trailer are from mewithoutyou but does anyone know who does the acoustic piece in the middle.
themooshiness 3 years ago 2
@themooshiness
I am also trying to find this song. Shazam is no help.
hallmark32 7 months ago
@hallmark32 It's by mewithoutYOU (the first song at least)
jwdesign336 5 months ago
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Earlier, someone was upset because I said Shane was a heretic. I did not say shane is a heretic because he wants to take care of the poor. The poor need help. I said he is a heretic because in his new book, he says that when Christ said the gates of hell will not stand up against the church, that what Christ meant is one day all the Christians will storm the gates of hell with Jesus and rescue the people inside. I have heard him speak in person and this is only one of his many many lies.
travisrusko 3 years ago
It's called THEOLOGY. Everyone interprets what they read in the bible in a different way. No one is wrong and no one is right. Just the fact that instead of focusing on the amazing things a person does, you choose something they say that you don't like and focus on that, says so much. What a waste of time and energy. Instead of calling names, go out there and do something for someone who needs it.
MiaSays 3 years ago 4
"no one is wrong and no one is right"? that is quite possibly the stupidest most ignorant, self defeating statement that could ever be spoken. Just think about it for a second. Do you think you are right is stating that? ...then you just proved yourself wrong. Do you think I am wrong by disagreeing? ...then you just proved yourself wrong.
centeredonchrist 3 years ago
centeredonchrist ... just for the sake of argument.... MiaSays was referring to theology i.e. biblical interpretation ... the statement "No one is wrong and no one is right" is not a biblical quote and there for falls out of the realm of her argument rendering your comment nearly as ignorant as the one you were attacking ... good try though if we're going to argue lets at least be rational in doing so.
GreatHopeRevival 2 years ago
what on earth are you talking about? (i already talked to her and she explained what she meant by that, which was not what i thought it meant [i didn't read it very closely... most ppl that comment on youtube are retarded so i just figured...])
centeredonchrist 2 years ago
Travisrusko, just out of bitter-free curiosity, what do you think Jesus meant when he said that?
StupidLyss 3 years ago
I am not saying he is right or you are right, but it seems neither of you have a good argument to support your theory there. if you want to get caught up in worrying about the afterlife, go ahead. But as for me, I'm going to try to prepare as many as I can for the Kingdom of God that is here today with what I do know and what scripture does say.
JakeOfOwens 2 years ago 4
Power to the peaceful!
softletters 3 years ago 2
It is wonderful to see people turning away from the lies of false prophets like James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, and John Hage. They have confused worship of empire and power with worship of Jesus. They have replaced love your enemy and love your neighbor with love of the American empire and have sold out for money and lust for political power. Thankfully, the evil reign of the "Religious Right" is at an end.
deritastudio 3 years ago 4
I don't understand how you can speak for everyone on the right and marginalize people who may sway to the conservative side of things. And calling people false prophets is a serious accusation, and yet I'm assuming that you think that people like Brian Mclaren is teaching biblical truth. I don't believe that patriotism should be lumped in with the Gospel and I am a conservative,
homelesspoet 1 year ago
I don't understand how you can sit there and lump all conservatives in together, yet I assume you support the people in this video who want to turn the bible into a leftist, marxist handbook to take down imperialism. Come on! drop the political agenda, the gospel has nothing to do with man's futile philosophy's political or otherwise,
homelesspoet 1 year ago
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shane claiborne is full of lies. He is a heretic. I have heard him speak more than once. He never mentions hell. He simply talks about leading people to Christ by being a good person and doing nice things for them. He is a liar.
travisrusko 3 years ago
That is far from the truth. He by no means says that by being a good person do we enter heaven, I just find that people get uneasy at his call, mimicking Jesus' call to not only serve the poor but stand in solidarity with them. Selling all we have and giving to the needy and relying on the Lord as our soul provider... I can understand why people would accuse him of being a "heretic", makes more sense to persecute someone who stands up for those whom america wishes to get rid of
hollywoodbrandt 3 years ago 8
i did not say shane is a heretic because he wants to take care of the poor. i said he is a heretic because in his new book, he says that when Christ said the gates of hell will not stand up against the church, that what Christ meant is one day all the Christians will storm the gates of hell with Jesus and rescue the people inside. I have heard him speak in person and this is only one of his many many lies.
travisrusko 3 years ago
I would suggest reading what N.T. Wright has to say about heaven and hell in his book, Surprised by Hope, before calling Shane or anyone else who says little if anything about hell.
jkooyman 3 years ago
@travisrusko So what if Shane never mentions hell????? Jesus never mentioned it either, except perhaps in YOUR interpertation of the bible.
ChuckK3 1 year ago
@ChuckK3 Shane actualy has metioned hell i remember in his book he said something about the concept of hell being hard to grasp he didnt talk alot or dwell on it but he never said there is no hell or presented any bad theology. i think most of his stuff is right!
Forrestjake09 1 year ago
Amen Shane and God bless you brother! This is what REAL Christianity is all about!
Octoberfurst 3 years ago 8
Halleluyah.
As people see your good works, let them glorify your Father who art in heaven.
PECULIAR PPL made in His image.
Unique. Creative. Loving. Giving. Growing.
Live a life that speaks of His love.
GOTTshua 3 years ago 4