9gb??? That couldn't be further from the truth. And I think it's a good comparison. I'd say they are competitors. Both of them ARE media players. They have similar specs, but their unique differences as well. The Archos doesn't use an OS, so I wouldn't call it a tablet PC; it just has a browser. I could go on and on about the comparisons (much more than this video), but there's no need.
Cant compare it to each other.Ones a touch screen and the other isnt.Theres a huge difference in visual quality between the 2.Thats why the Cowon looks better.
I just ondered the Cowon A3 two days ago. I'm dieing for it to get here. I ordered it because it plays ogg. All the extra stuff was just a great plus.
THank you for the review...so far, both look great, and sound great after reading their specs. The only con I have to mention is that the colours look more rich on the Cowon...
From my experience with Cowon products, their products have pretty good sound streight out of the box set without having to go out and buy a higher quality headphones. I look for the best quality full range of sound out of these portable MP3 players and Cowon seems to cater to audiophiles rather than general public.
I have th A3 myself and it's a pretty sweet device. My friend had a 604. Not the same, but as close to the 605 as I could get. I say, if your into recording TV/DVD videos, downloading lots of torrent/p2p files and don't want to go through the hassle of encoding all of that, go with the Cowon. If your into a more refined UI with plenty of sweet useful extras, head for the Archos. Like many have said here, bear in mind that these are media powerhouses so battery life and portability are not great.
Everyone needs to be looking iut for the -----------Cowon S9-----------!!! I think its going to be a ipod touch killer!!! Right now you can only see pictures of it, there are no videos yet wich make me hella mad.
Don't be stupid, there is no chance you can actually determine the quality of either players from looking at them through a crappy youtube quality video.
if you have more money, go with the cowon a3, if you have less, go with the Archos, the Cowon is about $80 dollar more, i found the Archos for $215, and the Cowon for $300
it doesnt matter how big it is , you just have to ask, I knew a eith grader last year who was allowed to use his Mac in schol, for about at least 2 periods, or if he was typing a report
well he was lucky @ my highschool we would never be allowed that...laptops arent even allowed in the school...everythign i so strict! no cell phones except after school or u get it taken up and have to pay 15$ to get it back and ipods/PMPs only allowed before/after school or it gets taken away...
dang thats strict, we can have cellphiones in lockers, as long as they are on vibrate or are off, and if we get cought with them, our parents come and pick them up, no fine, but the third time that happens, well, you wont see your fancy new phone. Oh funny story, our principal was giving a buig meeting to the middleshoolers, and a seventh graders cellphone rang, in the middle of the principle speech
oh i forgot to mention, that the kid who brought his labtop, watched movies in extension when there was a sub, and the sub was there for 2 weeks straight. Boy were those some good movies.
But i dint say that, and we didnt watch half of die hard 4. Hint hint, wink wink
YOU DO NOT WANT AN ARCHOS. I use to be a huge Archos fan, but the past two generations of units have been garbage, and the company has done nothing to fix the mass number of problems (except for blaming the consumer). The Cowon may not be as sexy, but IT DOES WHAT IT SAYS. Archos can barely do 10% of what it claims without a crippling glitch occurring. Not only that, the Cowon screen is much sharper.
Does anyone here have an Archos 605 WiFi 30 GB? If you do I have a question. Can you browse the internet without buying the extra for it? like connecting to your wifi router at home without it or do you need it to connect to WiFi?
WOW I AM TRING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO BUY AND AM GETTING NOWHERE FAST!
All i want is a good music/video player with Wifi and 605 seemed like it was the device i needed but some love it some hate it not sure what i am going to do.....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Cowon not having wifi means its no good to me!
Also i might add, the battery for the Archos SUCKED. I watched maybe an hour of 300 during class one day and when i turned it on on the bus, it had only one little bar left on it. :\ The A3 on the other hand, i only need to charge maybe like 3 times a week.
I've used both... and trust me, the A3 is alot better than the archos 605. :\ I've had to send it back 3 times because the harddrive keep failing. The 3rd time they just gave me a new one... and yesterday it won't write anything to the HDD... even after formatting. Didn't do anything to it but listen to music... which it didn't do well at (IE- When i clicked on some songs, it'd restart the whole fucking system). A3 is just the shit, I don't need touchscreen and internet on a video/mp3 player. :|
Im getting an A3 this wkend, ill make sure 2leave a comment here. I did my research too before ordering the A3. I should admit that the Archos looks better that the A3,but Im not going by the looks. All I care about is the media playing capacity. A3 plays almost all Godforsaken formats! Thats all I want cos I was using an iPod video which I now this is a complete peice of shit ! And another thing about the Archos is the WiFi thing, I really dont care bout WiFi, so for me A3 is the clear winner !
The problem with the A3 is that using such a powerful device without a touchscreen is a pain in the arse. Plus the Archos can do WAY more. I've just bought a 605 wifi, I can watch/listen, browse the web, access all the music and videos on my home pc wirelessly, record tv and soon it'll act as a slingbox too.
I dont care what that ipod vs archos review says (I read it too). I own an Archos and it is dog sh|t. When you first use it, you think it is the bomb... then after using it for a week, you find the 80,000,000 crippling bugs and glitches. A complete piece of junk.
You are speaking the truth man. The archos is a pretty piece of cat shit. Wifi and all. The Wifi is a nice feature but having to pay for all add-ons and having to deal with the firmware ,.... it is not worth the money. The a3 is worth every PENNY!!!! Its lack of Wifi is only a minor set-back, it's not even a setback...
the touchscreen for the 605 sucks actually. the volume level is placed on the touch screen so if you try to pull it out of your pocket you might accidentally put the volume on full blast. same with the next and previous song choice. you might accidentally skip songs. happens frequently for me and theres no way to turn off touchscreen
internet sucks. its slow and has random shutdowns. if you use internet with earphones on there will be constant loud static noise. its unfixable for all 605s
i never used the cowon but i know the 605 has too many minor problems to be a stable player. if you dont charge the battery right the first time there will be future problems. internet is unstable. loud static noise through earphones.
im assuming the a3 is better because i havent read about any problems. if you dont care about internet and a touch screen then go with the cowon
or wait for the 606 or creative zen share. those will be better touch screen sucks without the iphone slide lock
i dont think you guys understand the size of the a3 or 605. theyre not the biggest players around but theyre not small either. theyre gonna feel uncomforatble in your basketball shorts or jacket pocket. and its gonna be real hard to control with one hand. most likely with two hands like a psp.
I would like to buy the cowon now being aware of the numerous problems of the archos but the cowon only has 60gigabytes and that's not enough for me because I am interested in movies and very large files.
This video is twisting reality because in some movies you see more colors in the A3, but the fact is that they didn't configure the Archos right, It has magnificent video abilities.I have both devices. It is true the A3 has a minor sound advantage, due to French volume legal limitations.The A3 supports more formats but plays plays HD files choppy. The Archos is much faster, the WiFi is a huge advantage and the video is much better.
This video is twisting reality because in some movies you see more colors in the A3, but the fact is that they didn't configure the Archos right, It has magnificent video abilities.I have both devices. It is true the A3 has a minor sound advantage, due to French volume legal limitations.The A3 supports more formats but plays plays HD files choppy. The Archos is much faster, the WiFi is a huge advantage and the video is much better.
This video is twisting reality because in some movies you see more colors in the A3, but the fact is that they didn't configure the Archos right, It has magnificent video abilities.I have both devices. It is true the A3 has a minor sound advantage, due to French volume legal limitations.The A3 supports more formats but plays plays HD files choppy. The Archos is much faster, the WiFi is a huge advantage and the video is much better.
Thanks for this nice review ...although A3 has all these codecs but i think the archos still better choice if we consider the wifi and the Internet browser on the archos.The wifi in my opinion is a great option not just for browsing the internet but for reading the multimedia files from over any home wireless network plus I know the A3 price much higher than the archos .
Go and play any audio file on a Cowon A3 in a shop when you get the chance its a real eye opener. The sound quality blows anything archos sell right out of the water. The Archos has more features but when it comes to actually playing media its pretty average. If want wifi and browser (I mean a real one not the crippled browser in an archos) so much go get a Sony Vaio UX its portable and does everything the archos does but better.
I read about many people were complaining about the archos 605 sound quality compare to other devices but can't find the wifi option in any other PMP NOT for browsing the internet but to read my multimedia files from my home file server without I need to transfer them to the archos itself.
Cowon is superior in everyway possible, especially in features.
Archos doesn't even have a radio, read rext, gifs, bmps, record radio/sound, and you have to pay for more formats and internet browsing, which is ridiculous.
Were the A3 excels is on media file format support. It supports more media file formats that any PMP Ive seen out there mkv,ogg,mp4/3/2,FLAC.AAC.WMA.WMV.avi,divx.xvid,H.264 just to name a few.
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2point6x4 2 years ago
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castaway140 2 years ago
whats better, the 605 or the archos 5
joecandito 2 years ago
where did u het i t plz tell
yaboiRmani 2 years ago
someone tell me if its worth the extra money getting the archos 5 over the 605
joecandito 2 years ago
Now I have de ARCHOS 5 and I LOVE IT!! best PMP at the world, with out doubt ;)
llAkuTsUll 2 years ago
how is it???
is it real good???
ZigZags805 2 years ago
archos is brighter but maybe not as crisp
terminatorgir 2 years ago
COWAN KILLS IT WIT VIDEO RESO
warriorsify 2 years ago
Archos kills the Cowan with its touchscreen and the Internet Browser.
bungwohlio 2 years ago
Cowon a3 is amazing...and they don't nickel and dime for all of the good features like Archos.
towsonualum 2 years ago
cant compare the archos is a mini tablet pc now.The cowon is just a media player.250 gbs compared to 9 gb for the cowon.
jakechapy 2 years ago
9gb??? That couldn't be further from the truth. And I think it's a good comparison. I'd say they are competitors. Both of them ARE media players. They have similar specs, but their unique differences as well. The Archos doesn't use an OS, so I wouldn't call it a tablet PC; it just has a browser. I could go on and on about the comparisons (much more than this video), but there's no need.
guitaroach 2 years ago
Cant compare it to each other.Ones a touch screen and the other isnt.Theres a huge difference in visual quality between the 2.Thats why the Cowon looks better.
Try using a nontouch screen archos together.
koriandr22 2 years ago
COWON IS THE FUCKING MASTER !
llAkuTsUll 2 years ago
I just ondered the Cowon A3 two days ago. I'm dieing for it to get here. I ordered it because it plays ogg. All the extra stuff was just a great plus.
Rememberthe0511 2 years ago
Please make a review about the EQ =)
llAkuTsUll 2 years ago
.... Maybe... lol
Rememberthe0511 2 years ago
THank you for the review...so far, both look great, and sound great after reading their specs. The only con I have to mention is that the colours look more rich on the Cowon...
coppelia2000 3 years ago
Archos 605!
tee12345678910111213 3 years ago
the cowon looks pretty cool but im stickin with my 605
yomatadragon 3 years ago
lol carzy you can increase the contrast and bright nooob archos better
Youspikeytube 3 years ago
wow why are they so big?
prizzom 3 years ago
They Are 160 gb an 80 gb
Youspikeytube 3 years ago
From my experience with Cowon products, their products have pretty good sound streight out of the box set without having to go out and buy a higher quality headphones. I look for the best quality full range of sound out of these portable MP3 players and Cowon seems to cater to audiophiles rather than general public.
fvgotch 3 years ago
This is archos 5 no?
ordog11 3 years ago
ya but archos 5 kicks both of there asses
ANGELxINxDESARKNS 3 years ago
Archos 5 is a sweet deal. I wonder if they'll compare that to the Cowon Q5. From the reviews i've read, the Q5 seems like the higher device.
guitaroach 3 years ago
Cowon A3 got better color and has pure dark background
enyceckk101 3 years ago 2
is the cowon A3 the newest cowon???
sxcsaint 3 years ago
Cowon A3 is definitely better....
i have a A2 , i haven't stopped liking it...!!!
bhayjeet 3 years ago
I have th A3 myself and it's a pretty sweet device. My friend had a 604. Not the same, but as close to the 605 as I could get. I say, if your into recording TV/DVD videos, downloading lots of torrent/p2p files and don't want to go through the hassle of encoding all of that, go with the Cowon. If your into a more refined UI with plenty of sweet useful extras, head for the Archos. Like many have said here, bear in mind that these are media powerhouses so battery life and portability are not great.
guitaroach 3 years ago
Everyone needs to be looking iut for the -----------Cowon S9-----------!!! I think its going to be a ipod touch killer!!! Right now you can only see pictures of it, there are no videos yet wich make me hella mad.
Elzzija09 3 years ago
does the 605 fit in the pocket?
mikael1991 3 years ago
I would like to know what diffrencces have the archos 605 and 604? wich one should i buy
mikael1991 3 years ago
604 cause u dont have to pay for the web brownser
bandidagen 3 years ago
What do you mean it doesn't work in the US? the only feature it has that isn't available here is the mobile tv. Everything else work great.
guitaroach 3 years ago
the quality of the archos is better in my opinion.
extreek 3 years ago
Don't be stupid, there is no chance you can actually determine the quality of either players from looking at them through a crappy youtube quality video.
Chrononyx 3 years ago
ya go with the archos you will love it it is so cool
hobohot 3 years ago
oh, then get the archos
paperclipman5 3 years ago
if you have more money, go with the cowon a3, if you have less, go with the Archos, the Cowon is about $80 dollar more, i found the Archos for $215, and the Cowon for $300
paperclipman5 3 years ago
u probably wont be able to get the internet in school
paperclipman5 3 years ago
it doesnt matter if u could get internet in school or not the thing is fucking huge theres no way u could hide it lol
thewindsurfguy 3 years ago
it doesnt matter how big it is , you just have to ask, I knew a eith grader last year who was allowed to use his Mac in schol, for about at least 2 periods, or if he was typing a report
paperclipman5 3 years ago
well he was lucky @ my highschool we would never be allowed that...laptops arent even allowed in the school...everythign i so strict! no cell phones except after school or u get it taken up and have to pay 15$ to get it back and ipods/PMPs only allowed before/after school or it gets taken away...
thewindsurfguy 3 years ago
dang thats strict, we can have cellphiones in lockers, as long as they are on vibrate or are off, and if we get cought with them, our parents come and pick them up, no fine, but the third time that happens, well, you wont see your fancy new phone. Oh funny story, our principal was giving a buig meeting to the middleshoolers, and a seventh graders cellphone rang, in the middle of the principle speech
paperclipman5 3 years ago
haha one of my friends had just gotten a blackberry and the day after he bought it he brought it to school and got it confiscated for over 1 week :_)
Lazymewe 3 years ago
oh i forgot to mention, that the kid who brought his labtop, watched movies in extension when there was a sub, and the sub was there for 2 weeks straight. Boy were those some good movies.
But i dint say that, and we didnt watch half of die hard 4. Hint hint, wink wink
paperclipman5 3 years ago
god the cowon a3 look horrible the screen quality is very bad compared to archos trust me go with the archos 605 i have one and i love it archos FTW
xXMA55ACR369Xx 3 years ago
This video made my decision for me. Cowon A3 it is. Thanks so much for this, it's a great comparison!
Squiggoth 3 years ago
Many things what are in Cowon you must buy extra in Archos.And can´t recording video with Archos, only witd special station.Must extra buy too!!!
LordOfDarknessVince 3 years ago
yes but cowon is like 100 dollars more
paperclipman5 3 years ago
YOU DO NOT WANT AN ARCHOS. I use to be a huge Archos fan, but the past two generations of units have been garbage, and the company has done nothing to fix the mass number of problems (except for blaming the consumer). The Cowon may not be as sexy, but IT DOES WHAT IT SAYS. Archos can barely do 10% of what it claims without a crippling glitch occurring. Not only that, the Cowon screen is much sharper.
transws6am 3 years ago
come on you need define the archos better..
i have an archos 605 30 GB and you have to buy the wifi
or you can install the Qtopia - but im not recommend..
gal493 3 years ago
I think you mean Opera,but why you dont recommend it.
chancho00 3 years ago
Does anyone here have an Archos 605 WiFi 30 GB? If you do I have a question. Can you browse the internet without buying the extra for it? like connecting to your wifi router at home without it or do you need it to connect to WiFi?
TheHockeyDangler19 3 years ago
No.
You have to buy the plugin to use Internet.
Toya123 3 years ago
come on the define of the archos are bad..you need to define it well
gal493 3 years ago
Cowon A3 has WiFI?Or touchscreen?
RouTechKid 3 years ago
No. It's behind on the times.
It's still better for what it does than the Archos.
houou100 3 years ago
WOW I AM TRING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO BUY AND AM GETTING NOWHERE FAST!
All i want is a good music/video player with Wifi and 605 seemed like it was the device i needed but some love it some hate it not sure what i am going to do.....AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Cowon not having wifi means its no good to me!
Matias660 3 years ago 2
i know this person who went to tech school and she has the archos and she luvs!!! it!
she told me to get it
djsshows 3 years ago
Also i might add, the battery for the Archos SUCKED. I watched maybe an hour of 300 during class one day and when i turned it on on the bus, it had only one little bar left on it. :\ The A3 on the other hand, i only need to charge maybe like 3 times a week.
Inzerozerobee 3 years ago
I've used both... and trust me, the A3 is alot better than the archos 605. :\ I've had to send it back 3 times because the harddrive keep failing. The 3rd time they just gave me a new one... and yesterday it won't write anything to the HDD... even after formatting. Didn't do anything to it but listen to music... which it didn't do well at (IE- When i clicked on some songs, it'd restart the whole fucking system). A3 is just the shit, I don't need touchscreen and internet on a video/mp3 player. :|
Inzerozerobee 3 years ago 3
Im getting an A3 this wkend, ill make sure 2leave a comment here. I did my research too before ordering the A3. I should admit that the Archos looks better that the A3,but Im not going by the looks. All I care about is the media playing capacity. A3 plays almost all Godforsaken formats! Thats all I want cos I was using an iPod video which I now this is a complete peice of shit ! And another thing about the Archos is the WiFi thing, I really dont care bout WiFi, so for me A3 is the clear winner !
dexnow 3 years ago
The problem with the A3 is that using such a powerful device without a touchscreen is a pain in the arse. Plus the Archos can do WAY more. I've just bought a 605 wifi, I can watch/listen, browse the web, access all the music and videos on my home pc wirelessly, record tv and soon it'll act as a slingbox too.
mesonofgib 3 years ago
WOW! Archos blows the Cowen away!
nylander22 3 years ago
I was gonna buy the 605 but i bought the psp slim much better you can change the theme and put backrounds and dawnloud games any kind!
GGGG760 3 years ago
Cowon
: The perfect music device for those who repair Trans-Am's.
edmundgarfunkle2 3 years ago
I would buy the Cowon A3, but it is a little expensive xP
MauFonseca 3 years ago 2
I dont care what that ipod vs archos review says (I read it too). I own an Archos and it is dog sh|t. When you first use it, you think it is the bomb... then after using it for a week, you find the 80,000,000 crippling bugs and glitches. A complete piece of junk.
transws6am 3 years ago
Are those bugs a result of poorly designed hardware or is it the firmware?
MasterVHawk 3 years ago 2
Are those bugs a result of poorly designed hardware or is it the firmware?
MasterVHawk 3 years ago 2
crappy firmware/ it needs an SDK
yomanthatonedude 3 years ago 2
You are speaking the truth man. The archos is a pretty piece of cat shit. Wifi and all. The Wifi is a nice feature but having to pay for all add-ons and having to deal with the firmware ,.... it is not worth the money. The a3 is worth every PENNY!!!! Its lack of Wifi is only a minor set-back, it's not even a setback...
tkktkt 3 years ago
no internet, no touchscreen not a setback?
dolaishiphop 3 years ago
well yeah I was talking shit about the wifi. wifi is pretty convenient. Touchscreen? Bah. Cowon could have made a more intuitive UI.
tkktkt 3 years ago
the touchscreen for the 605 sucks actually. the volume level is placed on the touch screen so if you try to pull it out of your pocket you might accidentally put the volume on full blast. same with the next and previous song choice. you might accidentally skip songs. happens frequently for me and theres no way to turn off touchscreen
internet sucks. its slow and has random shutdowns. if you use internet with earphones on there will be constant loud static noise. its unfixable for all 605s
asdfxyz1 3 years ago
So you think the A3 is better?
dolaishiphop 3 years ago 2
i never used the cowon but i know the 605 has too many minor problems to be a stable player. if you dont charge the battery right the first time there will be future problems. internet is unstable. loud static noise through earphones.
im assuming the a3 is better because i havent read about any problems. if you dont care about internet and a touch screen then go with the cowon
or wait for the 606 or creative zen share. those will be better touch screen sucks without the iphone slide lock
asdfxyz1 3 years ago 2
i dont think you guys understand the size of the a3 or 605. theyre not the biggest players around but theyre not small either. theyre gonna feel uncomforatble in your basketball shorts or jacket pocket. and its gonna be real hard to control with one hand. most likely with two hands like a psp.
asdfxyz1 3 years ago
I would like to buy the cowon now being aware of the numerous problems of the archos but the cowon only has 60gigabytes and that's not enough for me because I am interested in movies and very large files.
dolaishiphop 3 years ago
dude i did my research and archos beat ipod touch and this one for now archos is number 1
j4w7 3 years ago
in a nut shell should I buy the A3 or the 605 ?
harrylime22 3 years ago
Does the Archos 605 Wifi Support iTunes Protected mp4 files? I need to know; almost all of my music is in this format.
Aven13x 4 years ago
Yeah it supports aac.
JRTET21 4 years ago
This video is twisting reality because in some movies you see more colors in the A3, but the fact is that they didn't configure the Archos right, It has magnificent video abilities.I have both devices. It is true the A3 has a minor sound advantage, due to French volume legal limitations.The A3 supports more formats but plays plays HD files choppy. The Archos is much faster, the WiFi is a huge advantage and the video is much better.
nironicon 4 years ago
This video is twisting reality because in some movies you see more colors in the A3, but the fact is that they didn't configure the Archos right, It has magnificent video abilities.I have both devices. It is true the A3 has a minor sound advantage, due to French volume legal limitations.The A3 supports more formats but plays plays HD files choppy. The Archos is much faster, the WiFi is a huge advantage and the video is much better.
nironicon 4 years ago
This video is twisting reality because in some movies you see more colors in the A3, but the fact is that they didn't configure the Archos right, It has magnificent video abilities.I have both devices. It is true the A3 has a minor sound advantage, due to French volume legal limitations.The A3 supports more formats but plays plays HD files choppy. The Archos is much faster, the WiFi is a huge advantage and the video is much better.
nironicon 4 years ago
how about cowon 5 " dark !!!!?
khemablue 4 years ago
hmm....
twistedpc 4 years ago
Thanks for this nice review ...although A3 has all these codecs but i think the archos still better choice if we consider the wifi and the Internet browser on the archos.The wifi in my opinion is a great option not just for browsing the internet but for reading the multimedia files from over any home wireless network plus I know the A3 price much higher than the archos .
mohjarr 4 years ago
Go and play any audio file on a Cowon A3 in a shop when you get the chance its a real eye opener. The sound quality blows anything archos sell right out of the water. The Archos has more features but when it comes to actually playing media its pretty average. If want wifi and browser (I mean a real one not the crippled browser in an archos) so much go get a Sony Vaio UX its portable and does everything the archos does but better.
LinuxGalore 4 years ago 3
I read about many people were complaining about the archos 605 sound quality compare to other devices but can't find the wifi option in any other PMP NOT for browsing the internet but to read my multimedia files from my home file server without I need to transfer them to the archos itself.
mohjarr 4 years ago
Cowon is superior in everyway possible, especially in features.
Archos doesn't even have a radio, read rext, gifs, bmps, record radio/sound, and you have to pay for more formats and internet browsing, which is ridiculous.
RustyRagnarok 4 years ago 2
Were the A3 excels is on media file format support. It supports more media file formats that any PMP Ive seen out there mkv,ogg,mp4/3/2,FLAC.AAC.WMA.WMV.avi,divx.xvid,H.264 just to name a few.
LinuxGalore 4 years ago
APE and MPC.
Only lacks wavpack to be perfect.
Lolimaster 4 years ago
it supports wavpack
eminn3m 4 years ago