What are these morons going to do to make a difference? Sink other whaling boats? Shit no; not on television. But that's the only thing that would make a difference, what a dumb show. I don't support whale killing; but this is just some stupid drama show on animal planet. Damn imbeciles, and anyone absorbed into this show thinking that this is making a difference is an imbecile too.
I'm guessing you're never watched the show especially the season finale that was on Friday where their intervention forced the whalers to retreat (of the whalers own admission which you can read on ICR dot org). Now they're a couple hundred million dollars in debt and their operations are falling apart, the whalers have maybe one year left in them, but it's unlikely. So maybe you should watch the show before making imbecile comments yeah. Kind of silly considering all that's happened
Sending the whalers home a month early and negating them 85% of their catch is one HUGE thing, it's really the only thing that matters. What more do you need then sending them home early for a season and causing them the lowest catch in their history?
@cantstoptheseeker You have absolutely no superiority over me. Because the stupid can not rule over those that can think. I'm right, you're wrong, get over it.
Even if the Whalers "research" was legitimate under the IWC regulations, their reseach would still be illegal under CITES, Madrid Protocols, and the Antarctic Treaty. So Japan would be violating 3 out of 4 law(s) and Articles within those laws
If you go to Dicvery channel forum for Whale War, You will find many cirizens of USA/UK watch "Whale War" as comedy. LOL. One idiot SCS supporter is always beaten by other members. Pro- or Anti-whaling is not matter. Most of US/UK citizen know SSCS have not right to to do violent activity and SSCS did illegal action as Animal Planet vote.
SSCS won yahoo's contest for most popular US charity, and remember, there's such thing as the loud minority and the silend majority, visit the animal planet site and look up the polls on whale wars, far more people support them then hate them.
Japanese research programs on cetaceans are perfectly legal. Article 8 of the International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling allows the catching of whales for scientific research notwithstanding any conservation measure adopted by the IWC. So Japanese scientific whaling isn't bound by the moratorium or the Southern Ocean whale sanctuary.
There is no Australian Southern Ocean whale sanctuary. Those waters, though claimed by Australia, do not belong to that country. Claims of Antarctic territories are frozen by the Antarctic Treaty System.
Checking facts a little bit is enough to expose Sea Shepherd's lies.
The treaty freezes all territorial claims made before it was made and forbids to make any further. Most countries in the world don't recognize Australian claims on the Antarctic continent. There was no concept of EEZ when the Treaty was made in the 1960's. Thus, if Australia is claiming waters in the Southern OCean, it's breaching its treaty obligations.
Australia made claims to the southern ocean a LONG time ago, they've made a 200 mile extension of it which is recognized by all nations, but Japan does not recognize any of the clam pre Antarctic treaty or otherwise.
The Antarctic treaty forbids refueling in it's waters, the whalers have done this, the Antarctic treaty forbids commercial activity, Japan does this, the Antarctic treaty forbids the slaughter of cetaceans, Japan does this, the Antarctic treaty forbids military weapons, Japan brings them. Japan is in breach of sustainability codes of the IWC as their whaling has had a drastic impact on Antartic minke population. So yes, they are bound.
Refuelling in the Southern Ocean isn't forbidden. Sea Shepherd were going to do it with the Ady Gil (watch Whale Wars season 3). The Antarctic treaty doesn't forbid commercial activities. Japanese research isn't commercial, anyway. The treaty doesn't forbid the killing of cetaceans or any other animals. Japan doesn't bring military weapons in the Southern Ocean, or then even a knife is military grade weapon. There are no such thing as sustainability codes at the IWC.
Yes it is, look it up in the Antarctic treaty, Green Peace went to great lengths to expose it, an I'm sure they have a story on their site citing it. Japanese whaling is commercial, that's one of the things Bethune was charged with, for interfering in commercial activities, and if it isn't commercial how did he get convicted of it IN JAPAN? The treaty protects all antarctic wild life. A knife is not a military grade weapon, you just lied a lot right there.
Not it isn't. I wouldn't base my argumentation on Greenpeace's interpretation of international law. Bethune was charged and convicted for "interfering with business" that is the correct translation of 業務妨害罪. There's no reference to commerce (商業 shougyou) in that charge.
Whether LRADs aren't military grade weapons, if that's what you mean. Otherwise it wouldn't be used by the police also.
The Antarctic treaty is rather about preservation and conservation, not "protection".
It's not some bias interpretation, it's written clear as day. Oh, business? Now business means commercial now doesn't it....hmmm it does, that's odd. LRAD is military grade weaponry, and they used it against a helicopter, then is sheer attempt at murder, they wanted him to crash. Conservation IS protection.
well, 業務 doesn't mean "commercial" in Japanese. It's business in a wide meaning, such as "activities" and is also used to designate thing such as NGO activities. It's not a matter of English language anyway.
The SSCS helicopter has been flying to close to the Japanese ships, being a risk from the beginning.
Conservation doesn't mean protection. It doesn' t forbid exploitation of a resource.
activities nothing, there are other Japanese words for activities, they meant business, and if they didn't mean it, then don't bring it to a court of law. TO CLOSE?! How? It is flying a good 100 yrds plus from the ship and has absolutely no potential of doing harm to them.
In a Japanese court of justice, you'll agree that it's "Japanese words" that count. How they are translated in English or any other language isn't the matter. The charge wasn't about commerce.
You need to watch Whale Wars and some pics released by the ICR. You'll see that the helicopter has been far to close to Japanese ships many times.
THOSE WORDS MEAN BUSINESS, they translate into many different languages, and they translate into the same thing. I watch the show, it was no where near to close, and so they use an LRAD to what? Have the helicopter come crashing down?
Who cares what they translate into in other languages. It's what they mean in Japanese that counts, and it's not about commerce, period.
If it wasn't close, how could have it been in range of the LRAD? Anyway, the pilot didn't lose control and it didn't crash, so there wasn't as much danger as the SSCS fairies want you to believe.
It is about COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, EVERYONE KNOWS IT, stop pretending like it's not about pure business, because that's what it's all about, because if Japan wanted to do research, they could do it all with out killing a single whale, virtually thee only thing that you can't find out by non lethal methods is age, which doesn't help in their conservation what so ever. LRADS are meant to disorientate, that's what the whalers tried to do, that's attempted murder or a pilot.
Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean doesn't have any drastic impact on Antarctic minke whales populations. If you're talking about the estimates from the 3rd circumpolar survey of IDCR/SOWER, you're wrong. This isn't a diminution of stocks, but rather a problem of methodology and access to open areas within the ice pack (polynyas) by research ships.
Japan catch quotas for its scientific programs are well within sustainable limits of each concerned species.
"Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean doesn't have a drastic impact on Antarctic minke whale populations" . That sure is news to me considering that IUCNredlist has written for the species that they've suffered a decline of approximately 60% in the last 40 years......does that sound drastic enough for you? The IWC has lower their estimate to around 300,000-400,000 now, from the former 750,000, which is DRASTICALLY LOWER.
I'd like to know where you found such a quote on the IUCN redlist website. Minke whales have been striving for a while and Humpbacks and Fins protected for about 40 years. The Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean only started about 23 years ago and the two latter species were only added 5 years ago (no Humpbacks have been caught yet).
Look it up, I'm not talking about the "minke" or the "common minke" I'm talking about the species Japan actually hunts, the "Antarctic minke" and if you look that species up in the IUCN redlist it will tell you the same thing I have. You can't trust Japan to report the whales they hunt, they never told anyone about the right whales they hunt, you know of the population of only 40.
I'm also talking of the Antarctic minke here. I have the IUCN Redlist page for the species open right now and can't see anything like what you wrote.
There is no accepted decline for these populations. It's all under investigation, and even if there's been a decline, it's causes are still "unknown".
"Although there is no accepted estimate of current abundance, the population size is clearly in the hundreds of thousands. The data analyzed by standard methods suggest a reduction of approximately 60% between the 1978–91 period and the 1991–2004 period." I recommend you read harder.
The IWC has no estimates for Antarctic minke whales actually. The 3-400,000 figure is from calculations based on 3rd circumpolar survey. It hasn't been endorsed by the IWC Scientific Committee. The IWC isn't recognizing that minke whales have dropped in numbers.
That 3-4 is by the IWC scientific committee, it is their current unofficial estimate off of DNA studies. They do recgonize it, everyone recognizes it, and when ICR was confronted by it you can see on their website acting like the minke whale is a species that has sudden plumes, they've completely turned off the "minke population explosion" propaganda they used to do because everyone knows it's bull.
The Antartic minke has had DN studies, look it up, Standfard has produced a nice video that will basically show you just about everything you've said right now is completely untrue "One Less Reason For Killing Minke Whales"
The study by Palumbi and al. was presented to the IWC Scientific Committee and not accepted. Check the ICR website. They have a nice press release about it.
Thee only research of theirs I've found to be accurate (completely unnecessary all the same) was their stomach content research of minke, because it's funny, it completely proves their own propaganda wrong, since Japan repeatedly suggest minke whales are eating up all the fish, even though far less then 1% of their diet is fish.
I don't think you've read much of their research nor understand much either.
Japan hasn't said that Antarctic Minke whales are eating up all the fish. It's however true that many whale species eat fish in the Northern Pacific, where Japan conducts another scientific program: JARPN2. I think you're mistaking the goals of JARPA2 and JARPN2.
OH, the research program that if further in violation of sustainability laws, and which is in further blatant violation of CITES, of which it was proven that Japan hunted the North easter Pacific right whale of which there are less then 40 still known to exist, would that be the research program of which you speak?
There are no quotas, that's correct, THEY JUST CATCH THEM AND DON'T TELL ANYONE, but it was proven though DNA studies of catches in Japan that this was done. That is in violation of CITES for hunting the species, japans also violating CITES in numerous other ways, one way actually caused them to lose a vessel if you ever read that story. I seems like you forgot that I was also right about the minke and IUCN
@sorryimsogreat2 Japan lost the Oriental Blue Bird (second factory ship) because the whalers are breaking laws particularly the Antarctic Treaty, Madrid Protocols, and CITES. I also heard a report that stated the UN is going to pass some kind of new law that would make the Nisshan Maru's presence in the Antarctic more illegal than it already is, and it's going to make the Nisshin Maru's activities even more difficult. Hopefully it will be removed from those waters just like the other ship
You do know when you talk of the IWC scientific committee you're talking about the same people who've constantly urged Japan to stop it's whaling right?
You're mistaken, here. It's the anti-whaling member countries to the IWC who have passed non-binding resolutions asking Japan to stop its research whaling, not the scientific committee.
Many members of the scientific committee actually commend Japan for its contribution to the committee's work.
The scientific committee has asked for it to stop as well as member nations. No.............no one in the scientific community of IWC has commended them, but they have laughed at them and called their work a scientific impossiblity when Japan keeps saying that whales are exploding in numbers.
Wrong. Many eminent scientists such as Greg Donovan, Arne Bjorge, Doug Butterworth, etc have commended Japan's input to ceatecan research. The IDCR/SOWER program conducted by the IWC wouldn't exist without the support of Japan.
Look for the documentary "A Greener Shade of Whale". It should be available on Youtube.
I'll put those scientists likely with the poor countries that Japan bribes frequently with money and prostitutes, it's no secret that Japan has a habit of trying to try and buy friends.
Any proof of such bribes to scientists of the IWC/SC?
As for the so-called "money and prostitues", that's all phoney. Did you watch the interviews? All the people say "i didn't take any money, but I heard that..."
Phoney? For one that isn't a word, it's phony. Those people were lying, they did take the money, and some say they did take the money, you keep discrediting everything which proves japan wrong, it's simply unbelievable.
@isanatori Did you say your apart of the IWC if so? Who do you rep? Japan dose not target the bigger countries, they target the smaller countries poorer ones with bribe's.
Really? Recently a US official, David A. Balton, declared during a Congress hearing that : "Japan does perform scientific research on the whales they take, and probably have the best whale science as a result."
Bob Barker is as awesome as the Sea Shepherds are!
cantstoptheseeker 1 month ago
God bless Bob Barker for helping Sea Shepherd!
SILENTKILLERX96 2 months ago 2
How much did that ship cost rounded to the nearest dollar without going over???
jsf926 2 months ago
What are these morons going to do to make a difference? Sink other whaling boats? Shit no; not on television. But that's the only thing that would make a difference, what a dumb show. I don't support whale killing; but this is just some stupid drama show on animal planet. Damn imbeciles, and anyone absorbed into this show thinking that this is making a difference is an imbecile too.
Schutzstafell 6 months ago
I'm guessing you're never watched the show especially the season finale that was on Friday where their intervention forced the whalers to retreat (of the whalers own admission which you can read on ICR dot org). Now they're a couple hundred million dollars in debt and their operations are falling apart, the whalers have maybe one year left in them, but it's unlikely. So maybe you should watch the show before making imbecile comments yeah. Kind of silly considering all that's happened
sorryimsogreat2 6 months ago
@sorryimsogreat2 Soo what you're saying is. ONE serious thing went down through the whole season?
Schutzstafell 6 months ago
@Schutzstafell
Sending the whalers home a month early and negating them 85% of their catch is one HUGE thing, it's really the only thing that matters. What more do you need then sending them home early for a season and causing them the lowest catch in their history?
sorryimsogreat2 6 months ago
@Schutzstafell Ur wrong the show raises awareness and support for the struggle against the crimes Japanese whaling.
cantstoptheseeker 1 month ago
@cantstoptheseeker You're wrong. I'm right, eat me.
Schutzstafell 1 month ago
@Schutzstafell Ur hi. I'm right. Worship my superiority.
cantstoptheseeker 1 month ago
@cantstoptheseeker You have absolutely no superiority over me. Because the stupid can not rule over those that can think. I'm right, you're wrong, get over it.
Schutzstafell 1 month ago
@Schutzstafell what a sad sorry miserable waste of plasma you are, mental midgets like you give credence to those who say the human race is insane.
ThumpR8080 3 weeks ago
Man I want some sushi
pinoyakuma 8 months ago
@pinoyakuma Nothing wrong with eating sustainable seafood and sushi, I'm a veg and I luv the stuff.
So basically ur troll comment is a big FAIL!
cantstoptheseeker 1 month ago
Dear Bob Barker, Did you ever know that you're my hero? Now can we discuss the mountain gorillas?
etbella3 1 year ago 2
"The price is right bitch"
Good job Bob, way to go Sea Shephard
TheBbergner86 1 year ago 2
"The price is right bitch"
TheBbergner86 1 year ago
Even if the Whalers "research" was legitimate under the IWC regulations, their reseach would still be illegal under CITES, Madrid Protocols, and the Antarctic Treaty. So Japan would be violating 3 out of 4 law(s) and Articles within those laws
Earthin64 1 year ago
Bob Barker.
b(^_^)d
Keep up the good work
Earthin64 1 year ago
If you go to Dicvery channel forum for Whale War, You will find many cirizens of USA/UK watch "Whale War" as comedy. LOL. One idiot SCS supporter is always beaten by other members. Pro- or Anti-whaling is not matter. Most of US/UK citizen know SSCS have not right to to do violent activity and SSCS did illegal action as Animal Planet vote.
PFatsonIII 1 year ago
@PFatsonIII
SSCS won yahoo's contest for most popular US charity, and remember, there's such thing as the loud minority and the silend majority, visit the animal planet site and look up the polls on whale wars, far more people support them then hate them.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
GO SSCS
BulgarianInCanada 1 year ago
Great Vid. Sea Shepards Ftw
GunsMurder 1 year ago
Thank you Barb Barker for the support you have given to saving whales.
MrSlyRedFox 1 year ago
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One more for the good guys...
thebuzzcjc 1 year ago
please tell me what research do you think they are doing? also what is the purpose of any research when you kill the test subject?
unknownaffliction 1 year ago
lol bob is such a beast lol
iiTzTrAgicZSH 1 year ago
Japanese research programs on cetaceans are perfectly legal. Article 8 of the International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling allows the catching of whales for scientific research notwithstanding any conservation measure adopted by the IWC. So Japanese scientific whaling isn't bound by the moratorium or the Southern Ocean whale sanctuary.
isanatori 1 year ago
There is no Australian Southern Ocean whale sanctuary. Those waters, though claimed by Australia, do not belong to that country. Claims of Antarctic territories are frozen by the Antarctic Treaty System.
Checking facts a little bit is enough to expose Sea Shepherd's lies.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
Incorrect, all claims made before the Antarctic treaty are valid, so half of the current claim is factual, and Japan recognizes none of it.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
The treaty freezes all territorial claims made before it was made and forbids to make any further. Most countries in the world don't recognize Australian claims on the Antarctic continent. There was no concept of EEZ when the Treaty was made in the 1960's. Thus, if Australia is claiming waters in the Southern OCean, it's breaching its treaty obligations.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
Australia made claims to the southern ocean a LONG time ago, they've made a 200 mile extension of it which is recognized by all nations, but Japan does not recognize any of the clam pre Antarctic treaty or otherwise.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@isanatori
The Antarctic treaty forbids refueling in it's waters, the whalers have done this, the Antarctic treaty forbids commercial activity, Japan does this, the Antarctic treaty forbids the slaughter of cetaceans, Japan does this, the Antarctic treaty forbids military weapons, Japan brings them. Japan is in breach of sustainability codes of the IWC as their whaling has had a drastic impact on Antartic minke population. So yes, they are bound.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Refuelling in the Southern Ocean isn't forbidden. Sea Shepherd were going to do it with the Ady Gil (watch Whale Wars season 3). The Antarctic treaty doesn't forbid commercial activities. Japanese research isn't commercial, anyway. The treaty doesn't forbid the killing of cetaceans or any other animals. Japan doesn't bring military weapons in the Southern Ocean, or then even a knife is military grade weapon. There are no such thing as sustainability codes at the IWC.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
Yes it is, look it up in the Antarctic treaty, Green Peace went to great lengths to expose it, an I'm sure they have a story on their site citing it. Japanese whaling is commercial, that's one of the things Bethune was charged with, for interfering in commercial activities, and if it isn't commercial how did he get convicted of it IN JAPAN? The treaty protects all antarctic wild life. A knife is not a military grade weapon, you just lied a lot right there.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Not it isn't. I wouldn't base my argumentation on Greenpeace's interpretation of international law. Bethune was charged and convicted for "interfering with business" that is the correct translation of 業務妨害罪. There's no reference to commerce (商業 shougyou) in that charge.
Whether LRADs aren't military grade weapons, if that's what you mean. Otherwise it wouldn't be used by the police also.
The Antarctic treaty is rather about preservation and conservation, not "protection".
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
It's not some bias interpretation, it's written clear as day. Oh, business? Now business means commercial now doesn't it....hmmm it does, that's odd. LRAD is military grade weaponry, and they used it against a helicopter, then is sheer attempt at murder, they wanted him to crash. Conservation IS protection.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
well, 業務 doesn't mean "commercial" in Japanese. It's business in a wide meaning, such as "activities" and is also used to designate thing such as NGO activities. It's not a matter of English language anyway.
The SSCS helicopter has been flying to close to the Japanese ships, being a risk from the beginning.
Conservation doesn't mean protection. It doesn' t forbid exploitation of a resource.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
activities nothing, there are other Japanese words for activities, they meant business, and if they didn't mean it, then don't bring it to a court of law. TO CLOSE?! How? It is flying a good 100 yrds plus from the ship and has absolutely no potential of doing harm to them.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
In a Japanese court of justice, you'll agree that it's "Japanese words" that count. How they are translated in English or any other language isn't the matter. The charge wasn't about commerce.
You need to watch Whale Wars and some pics released by the ICR. You'll see that the helicopter has been far to close to Japanese ships many times.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
THOSE WORDS MEAN BUSINESS, they translate into many different languages, and they translate into the same thing. I watch the show, it was no where near to close, and so they use an LRAD to what? Have the helicopter come crashing down?
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Who cares what they translate into in other languages. It's what they mean in Japanese that counts, and it's not about commerce, period.
If it wasn't close, how could have it been in range of the LRAD? Anyway, the pilot didn't lose control and it didn't crash, so there wasn't as much danger as the SSCS fairies want you to believe.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
It is about COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, EVERYONE KNOWS IT, stop pretending like it's not about pure business, because that's what it's all about, because if Japan wanted to do research, they could do it all with out killing a single whale, virtually thee only thing that you can't find out by non lethal methods is age, which doesn't help in their conservation what so ever. LRADS are meant to disorientate, that's what the whalers tried to do, that's attempted murder or a pilot.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean doesn't have any drastic impact on Antarctic minke whales populations. If you're talking about the estimates from the 3rd circumpolar survey of IDCR/SOWER, you're wrong. This isn't a diminution of stocks, but rather a problem of methodology and access to open areas within the ice pack (polynyas) by research ships.
Japan catch quotas for its scientific programs are well within sustainable limits of each concerned species.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
"Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean doesn't have a drastic impact on Antarctic minke whale populations" . That sure is news to me considering that IUCNredlist has written for the species that they've suffered a decline of approximately 60% in the last 40 years......does that sound drastic enough for you? The IWC has lower their estimate to around 300,000-400,000 now, from the former 750,000, which is DRASTICALLY LOWER.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
I'd like to know where you found such a quote on the IUCN redlist website. Minke whales have been striving for a while and Humpbacks and Fins protected for about 40 years. The Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean only started about 23 years ago and the two latter species were only added 5 years ago (no Humpbacks have been caught yet).
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
Look it up, I'm not talking about the "minke" or the "common minke" I'm talking about the species Japan actually hunts, the "Antarctic minke" and if you look that species up in the IUCN redlist it will tell you the same thing I have. You can't trust Japan to report the whales they hunt, they never told anyone about the right whales they hunt, you know of the population of only 40.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
I'm also talking of the Antarctic minke here. I have the IUCN Redlist page for the species open right now and can't see anything like what you wrote.
There is no accepted decline for these populations. It's all under investigation, and even if there's been a decline, it's causes are still "unknown".
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
IUCNredlist
"Although there is no accepted estimate of current abundance, the population size is clearly in the hundreds of thousands. The data analyzed by standard methods suggest a reduction of approximately 60% between the 1978–91 period and the 1991–2004 period." I recommend you read harder.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
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@sorryimsogreat2
You too: "The data analyzed by standard methods SUGGEST a reduction" (my emphasis).
isanatori 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
The IWC has no estimates for Antarctic minke whales actually. The 3-400,000 figure is from calculations based on 3rd circumpolar survey. It hasn't been endorsed by the IWC Scientific Committee. The IWC isn't recognizing that minke whales have dropped in numbers.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
That 3-4 is by the IWC scientific committee, it is their current unofficial estimate off of DNA studies. They do recgonize it, everyone recognizes it, and when ICR was confronted by it you can see on their website acting like the minke whale is a species that has sudden plumes, they've completely turned off the "minke population explosion" propaganda they used to do because everyone knows it's bull.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
There isn't unofficial estimate. Moreover, IDCR/SOWER is based on sight surveys, not DNA studies.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
The Antartic minke has had DN studies, look it up, Standfard has produced a nice video that will basically show you just about everything you've said right now is completely untrue "One Less Reason For Killing Minke Whales"
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
The study by Palumbi and al. was presented to the IWC Scientific Committee and not accepted. Check the ICR website. They have a nice press release about it.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
Thee only research of theirs I've found to be accurate (completely unnecessary all the same) was their stomach content research of minke, because it's funny, it completely proves their own propaganda wrong, since Japan repeatedly suggest minke whales are eating up all the fish, even though far less then 1% of their diet is fish.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
I don't think you've read much of their research nor understand much either.
Japan hasn't said that Antarctic Minke whales are eating up all the fish. It's however true that many whale species eat fish in the Northern Pacific, where Japan conducts another scientific program: JARPN2. I think you're mistaking the goals of JARPA2 and JARPN2.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
OH, the research program that if further in violation of sustainability laws, and which is in further blatant violation of CITES, of which it was proven that Japan hunted the North easter Pacific right whale of which there are less then 40 still known to exist, would that be the research program of which you speak?
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
There are no catch quotas for North(western?) Right Whales in JARPN2.
Japan isn't violating CITES.
I think you're pretty much confused about a lot of things.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
There are no quotas, that's correct, THEY JUST CATCH THEM AND DON'T TELL ANYONE, but it was proven though DNA studies of catches in Japan that this was done. That is in violation of CITES for hunting the species, japans also violating CITES in numerous other ways, one way actually caused them to lose a vessel if you ever read that story. I seems like you forgot that I was also right about the minke and IUCN
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2 Japan lost the Oriental Blue Bird (second factory ship) because the whalers are breaking laws particularly the Antarctic Treaty, Madrid Protocols, and CITES. I also heard a report that stated the UN is going to pass some kind of new law that would make the Nisshan Maru's presence in the Antarctic more illegal than it already is, and it's going to make the Nisshin Maru's activities even more difficult. Hopefully it will be removed from those waters just like the other ship
Earthin64 1 year ago
@isanatori
Remember when former head of Japans whaling program called the minke a "cockroach" and said they were eating all the fish, I remember that.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@isanatori
You do know when you talk of the IWC scientific committee you're talking about the same people who've constantly urged Japan to stop it's whaling right?
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
You're mistaken, here. It's the anti-whaling member countries to the IWC who have passed non-binding resolutions asking Japan to stop its research whaling, not the scientific committee.
Many members of the scientific committee actually commend Japan for its contribution to the committee's work.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
The scientific committee has asked for it to stop as well as member nations. No.............no one in the scientific community of IWC has commended them, but they have laughed at them and called their work a scientific impossiblity when Japan keeps saying that whales are exploding in numbers.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Wrong. Many eminent scientists such as Greg Donovan, Arne Bjorge, Doug Butterworth, etc have commended Japan's input to ceatecan research. The IDCR/SOWER program conducted by the IWC wouldn't exist without the support of Japan.
Look for the documentary "A Greener Shade of Whale". It should be available on Youtube.
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
I'll put those scientists likely with the poor countries that Japan bribes frequently with money and prostitutes, it's no secret that Japan has a habit of trying to try and buy friends.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Any proof of such bribes to scientists of the IWC/SC?
As for the so-called "money and prostitues", that's all phoney. Did you watch the interviews? All the people say "i didn't take any money, but I heard that..."
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
Phoney? For one that isn't a word, it's phony. Those people were lying, they did take the money, and some say they did take the money, you keep discrediting everything which proves japan wrong, it's simply unbelievable.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@isanatori Did you say your apart of the IWC if so? Who do you rep? Japan dose not target the bigger countries, they target the smaller countries poorer ones with bribe's.
SeaShepherdSecurity 1 year ago
@isanatori
Whale research has existed a long time with out Japan, they have done absolutely NOTHING positive for whales or the scientific community.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Really? Recently a US official, David A. Balton, declared during a Congress hearing that : "Japan does perform scientific research on the whales they take, and probably have the best whale science as a result."
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori
money talks and greases palms.
sorryimsogreat2 1 year ago
@sorryimsogreat2
Here again, any evidence to back your claim?
isanatori 1 year ago
@isanatori The ONLY thing the Japanimals are "researching" is how whale meat tastes. Lets not fool ourselves here.
happilea 1 year ago