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  • Bob Barker is as awesome as the Sea Shepherds are!

  • God bless Bob Barker for helping Sea Shepherd!

  • How much did that ship cost rounded to the nearest dollar without going over???

  • What are these morons going to do to make a difference? Sink other whaling boats? Shit no; not on television. But that's the only thing that would make a difference, what a dumb show. I don't support whale killing; but this is just some stupid drama show on animal planet. Damn imbeciles, and anyone absorbed into this show thinking that this is making a difference is an imbecile too.

  • I'm guessing you're never watched the show especially the season finale that was on Friday where their intervention forced the whalers to retreat (of the whalers own admission which you can read on ICR dot org). Now they're a couple hundred million dollars in debt and their operations are falling apart, the whalers have maybe one year left in them, but it's unlikely. So maybe you should watch the show before making imbecile comments yeah. Kind of silly considering all that's happened

  • @sorryimsogreat2 Soo what you're saying is. ONE serious thing went down through the whole season?

  • @Schutzstafell

    Sending the whalers home a month early and negating them 85% of their catch is one HUGE thing, it's really the only thing that matters. What more do you need then sending them home early for a season and causing them the lowest catch in their history?

  • @Schutzstafell Ur wrong the show raises awareness and support for the struggle against the crimes Japanese whaling.

  • @cantstoptheseeker You're wrong. I'm right, eat me.

  • @Schutzstafell Ur hi. I'm right. Worship my superiority.

  • @cantstoptheseeker You have absolutely no superiority over me. Because the stupid can not rule over those that can think. I'm right, you're wrong, get over it.

  • @Schutzstafell what a sad sorry miserable waste of plasma you are, mental midgets like you give credence to those who say the human race is insane.

  • Man I want some sushi

  • @pinoyakuma Nothing wrong with eating sustainable seafood and sushi, I'm a veg and I luv the stuff.

    So basically ur troll comment is a big FAIL!

  • Dear Bob Barker, Did you ever know that you're my hero? Now can we discuss the mountain gorillas?

  • "The price is right bitch"

    Good job Bob, way to go Sea Shephard

  • "The price is right bitch"

  • Even if the Whalers "research" was legitimate under the IWC regulations, their reseach would still be illegal under CITES, Madrid Protocols, and the Antarctic Treaty. So Japan would be violating 3 out of 4 law(s) and Articles within those laws

  • Bob Barker.

    b(^_^)d

    Keep up the good work

  • If you go to Dicvery channel forum for Whale War, You will find many cirizens of USA/UK watch "Whale War" as comedy. LOL. One idiot SCS supporter is always beaten by other members. Pro- or Anti-whaling is not matter. Most of US/UK citizen know SSCS have not right to to do violent activity and SSCS did illegal action as Animal Planet vote.

  • @PFatsonIII

    SSCS won yahoo's contest for most popular US charity, and remember, there's such thing as the loud minority and the silend majority, visit the animal planet site and look up the polls on whale wars, far more people support them then hate them.

  • GO SSCS

  • Great Vid. Sea Shepards Ftw

  • Thank you Barb Barker for the support you have given to saving whales.

  • please tell me what research do you think they are doing? also what is the purpose of any research when you kill the test subject?

  • lol bob is such a beast lol

  • Japanese research programs on cetaceans are perfectly legal. Article 8 of the International Convention for the Regulation of Whaling allows the catching of whales for scientific research notwithstanding any conservation measure adopted by the IWC. So Japanese scientific whaling isn't bound by the moratorium or the Southern Ocean whale sanctuary.

  • There is no Australian Southern Ocean whale sanctuary. Those waters, though claimed by Australia, do not belong to that country. Claims of Antarctic territories are frozen by the Antarctic Treaty System.

    Checking facts a little bit is enough to expose Sea Shepherd's lies.

  • @isanatori

    Incorrect, all claims made before the Antarctic treaty are valid, so half of the current claim is factual, and Japan recognizes none of it.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    The treaty freezes all territorial claims made before it was made and forbids to make any further. Most countries in the world don't recognize Australian claims on the Antarctic continent. There was no concept of EEZ when the Treaty was made in the 1960's. Thus, if Australia is claiming waters in the Southern OCean, it's breaching its treaty obligations.

  • @isanatori

    Australia made claims to the southern ocean a LONG time ago, they've made a 200 mile extension of it which is recognized by all nations, but Japan does not recognize any of the clam pre Antarctic treaty or otherwise.

  • @isanatori

    The Antarctic treaty forbids refueling in it's waters, the whalers have done this, the Antarctic treaty forbids commercial activity, Japan does this, the Antarctic treaty forbids the slaughter of cetaceans, Japan does this, the Antarctic treaty forbids military weapons, Japan brings them. Japan is in breach of sustainability codes of the IWC as their whaling has had a drastic impact on Antartic minke population. So yes, they are bound.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Refuelling in the Southern Ocean isn't forbidden. Sea Shepherd were going to do it with the Ady Gil (watch Whale Wars season 3). The Antarctic treaty doesn't forbid commercial activities. Japanese research isn't commercial, anyway. The treaty doesn't forbid the killing of cetaceans or any other animals. Japan doesn't bring military weapons in the Southern Ocean, or then even a knife is military grade weapon. There are no such thing as sustainability codes at the IWC.

  • @isanatori

    Yes it is, look it up in the Antarctic treaty, Green Peace went to great lengths to expose it, an I'm sure they have a story on their site citing it. Japanese whaling is commercial, that's one of the things Bethune was charged with, for interfering in commercial activities, and if it isn't commercial how did he get convicted of it IN JAPAN? The treaty protects all antarctic wild life.  A knife is not a military grade weapon, you just lied a lot right there.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Not it isn't. I wouldn't base my argumentation on Greenpeace's interpretation of international law. Bethune was charged and convicted for "interfering with business" that is the correct translation of 業務妨害罪. There's no reference to commerce (商業 shougyou) in that charge.

    Whether LRADs aren't military grade weapons, if that's what you mean. Otherwise it wouldn't be used by the police also.

    The Antarctic treaty is rather about preservation and conservation, not "protection".

  • @isanatori

    It's not some bias interpretation, it's written clear as day. Oh, business? Now business means commercial now doesn't it....hmmm it does, that's odd. LRAD is military grade weaponry, and they used it against a helicopter, then is sheer attempt at murder, they wanted him to crash. Conservation IS protection.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    well, 業務 doesn't mean "commercial" in Japanese. It's business in a wide meaning, such as "activities" and is also used to designate thing such as NGO activities. It's not a matter of English language anyway.

    The SSCS helicopter has been flying to close to the Japanese ships, being a risk from the beginning.

    Conservation doesn't mean protection. It doesn' t forbid exploitation of a resource.

  • @isanatori

    activities nothing, there are other Japanese words for activities, they meant business, and if they didn't mean it, then don't bring it to a court of law.  TO CLOSE?! How? It is flying a good 100 yrds plus from the ship and has absolutely no potential of doing harm to them.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    In a Japanese court of justice, you'll agree that it's "Japanese words" that count. How they are translated in English or any other language isn't the matter. The charge wasn't about commerce.

    You need to watch Whale Wars and some pics released by the ICR. You'll see that the helicopter has been far to close to Japanese ships many times.

  • @isanatori

    THOSE WORDS MEAN BUSINESS, they translate into many different languages, and they translate into the same thing. I watch the show, it was no where near to close, and so they use an LRAD to what? Have the helicopter come crashing down?

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Who cares what they translate into in other languages. It's what they mean in Japanese that counts, and it's not about commerce, period.

    If it wasn't close, how could have it been in range of the LRAD? Anyway, the pilot didn't lose control and it didn't crash, so there wasn't as much danger as the SSCS fairies want you to believe.

  • @isanatori

    It is about COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, EVERYONE KNOWS IT, stop pretending like it's not about pure business, because that's what it's all about, because if Japan wanted to do research, they could do it all with out killing a single whale, virtually thee only thing that you can't find out by non lethal methods is age, which doesn't help in their conservation what so ever. LRADS are meant to disorientate, that's what the whalers tried to do, that's attempted murder or a pilot.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean doesn't have any drastic impact on Antarctic minke whales populations. If you're talking about the estimates from the 3rd circumpolar survey of IDCR/SOWER, you're wrong. This isn't a diminution of stocks, but rather a problem of methodology and access to open areas within the ice pack (polynyas) by research ships.

    Japan catch quotas for its scientific programs are well within sustainable limits of each concerned species.

  • @isanatori

    "Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean doesn't have a drastic impact on Antarctic minke whale populations" . That sure is news to me considering that IUCNredlist has written for the species that they've suffered a decline of approximately 60% in the last 40 years......does that sound drastic enough for you? The IWC has lower their estimate to around 300,000-400,000 now, from the former 750,000, which is DRASTICALLY LOWER. 

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    I'd like to know where you found such a quote on the IUCN redlist website. Minke whales have been striving for a while and Humpbacks and Fins protected for about 40 years. The Japanese research program in the Southern Ocean only started about 23 years ago and the two latter species were only added 5 years ago (no Humpbacks have been caught yet).

  • @isanatori

    Look it up, I'm not talking about the "minke" or the "common minke" I'm talking about the species Japan actually hunts, the "Antarctic minke" and if you look that species up in the IUCN redlist it will tell you the same thing I have. You can't trust Japan to report the whales they hunt, they never told anyone about the right whales they hunt, you know of the population of only 40.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    I'm also talking of the Antarctic minke here. I have the IUCN Redlist page for the species open right now and can't see anything like what you wrote.

    There is no accepted decline for these populations. It's all under investigation, and even if there's been a decline, it's causes are still "unknown".

  • @isanatori

    IUCNredlist

    "Although there is no accepted estimate of current abundance, the population size is clearly in the hundreds of thousands. The data analyzed by standard methods suggest a reduction of approximately 60% between the 1978–91 period and the 1991–2004 period." I recommend you read harder.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    The IWC has no estimates for Antarctic minke whales actually. The 3-400,000 figure is from calculations based on 3rd circumpolar survey. It hasn't been endorsed by the IWC Scientific Committee. The IWC isn't recognizing that minke whales have dropped in numbers.

  • @isanatori

    That 3-4 is by the IWC scientific committee, it is their current unofficial estimate off of DNA studies. They do recgonize it, everyone recognizes it, and when ICR was confronted by it you can see on their website acting like the minke whale is a species that has sudden plumes, they've completely turned off the "minke population explosion" propaganda they used to do because everyone knows it's bull.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    There isn't unofficial estimate. Moreover, IDCR/SOWER is based on sight surveys, not DNA studies.

  • @isanatori

    The Antartic minke has had DN studies, look it up, Standfard has produced a nice video that will basically show you just about everything you've said right now is completely untrue "One Less Reason For Killing Minke Whales"

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    The study by Palumbi and al. was presented to the IWC Scientific Committee and not accepted. Check the ICR website. They have a nice press release about it.

  • @isanatori

    Thee only research of theirs I've found to be accurate (completely unnecessary all the same) was their stomach content research of minke, because it's funny, it completely proves their own propaganda wrong, since Japan repeatedly suggest minke whales are eating up all the fish, even though far less then 1% of their diet is fish.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    I don't think you've read much of their research nor understand much either.

    Japan hasn't said that Antarctic Minke whales are eating up all the fish. It's however true that many whale species eat fish in the Northern Pacific, where Japan conducts another scientific program: JARPN2. I think you're mistaking the goals of JARPA2 and JARPN2.

  • @isanatori

    OH, the research program that if further in violation of sustainability laws, and which is in further blatant violation of CITES, of which it was proven that Japan hunted the North easter Pacific right whale of which there are less then 40 still known to exist, would that be the research program of which you speak?

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    There are no catch quotas for North(western?) Right Whales in JARPN2.

    Japan isn't violating CITES.

    I think you're pretty much confused about a lot of things.

  • @isanatori

    There are no quotas, that's correct, THEY JUST CATCH THEM AND DON'T TELL ANYONE, but it was proven though DNA studies of catches in Japan that this was done. That is in violation of CITES for hunting the species, japans also violating CITES in numerous other ways, one way actually caused them to lose a vessel if you ever read that story. I seems like you forgot that I was also right about the minke and IUCN

  • @sorryimsogreat2 Japan lost the Oriental Blue Bird (second factory ship) because the whalers are breaking laws particularly the Antarctic Treaty, Madrid Protocols, and CITES. I also heard a report that stated the UN is going to pass some kind of new law that would make the Nisshan Maru's presence in the Antarctic more illegal than it already is, and it's going to make the Nisshin Maru's activities even more difficult. Hopefully it will be removed from those waters just like the other ship

  • @isanatori

    Remember when former head of Japans whaling program called the minke a "cockroach" and said they were eating all the fish, I remember that.

  • @isanatori

    You do know when you talk of the IWC scientific committee you're talking about the same people who've constantly urged Japan to stop it's whaling right?

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    You're mistaken, here. It's the anti-whaling member countries to the IWC who have passed non-binding resolutions asking Japan to stop its research whaling, not the scientific committee.

    Many members of the scientific committee actually commend Japan for its contribution to the committee's work.

  • @isanatori

    The scientific committee has asked for it to stop as well as member nations. No.............no one in the scientific community of IWC has commended them, but they have laughed at them and called their work a scientific impossiblity when Japan keeps saying that whales are exploding in numbers.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Wrong. Many eminent scientists such as Greg Donovan, Arne Bjorge, Doug Butterworth, etc have commended Japan's input to ceatecan research. The IDCR/SOWER program conducted by the IWC wouldn't exist without the support of Japan.

    Look for the documentary "A Greener Shade of Whale". It should be available on Youtube.

  • @isanatori

    I'll put those scientists likely with the poor countries that Japan bribes frequently with money and prostitutes, it's no secret that Japan has a habit of trying to try and buy friends.

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Any proof of such bribes to scientists of the IWC/SC?

    As for the so-called "money and prostitues", that's all phoney. Did you watch the interviews? All the people say "i didn't take any money, but I heard that..."

  • @isanatori

    Phoney? For one that isn't a word, it's phony. Those people were lying, they did take the money, and some say they did take the money, you keep discrediting everything which proves japan wrong, it's simply unbelievable.

  • @isanatori Did you say your apart of the IWC if so? Who do you rep? Japan dose not target the bigger countries, they target the smaller countries poorer ones with bribe's.

  • @isanatori

    Whale research has existed a long time with out Japan, they have done absolutely NOTHING positive for whales or the scientific community. 

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Really? Recently a US official, David A. Balton, declared during a Congress hearing that : "Japan does perform scientific research on the whales they take, and probably have the best whale science as a result."

  • @isanatori

    money talks and greases palms. 

  • @sorryimsogreat2

    Here again, any evidence to back your claim?

  • @isanatori The ONLY thing the Japanimals are "researching" is how whale meat tastes. Lets not fool ourselves here.

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