How can Allah be Just or Merciful if He makes arrogant people drink boiling water for all Eternity? How the hell can being wrong and/or arrogant justify, err, Hell?
@grazzhood71 The great lord Satan left it beyond a shadow of a doubt his religion is the 100% true. It's only the arrogant who deny he created us all, and claim it was their crazy god, or the lazy who do not want to make blood sacrifices at the altar every sunrise and sunset. Satan has laid all this out for you, stop being blind, and do all the things the occult tells you to do you lazy fuck.
@grazzhood71 See how easy it is to just claim something? I don't doubt because I'm lazy, or arrogant, it's because if you look at the Qu'ran with truly, unmitigated reason, and logic it seems like some guy wrote an angry book filled with fiction.
If you grew up in a Christian community you'd fool yourself the Bible is 100% true. If you grew up in a Hindu community you'd think VIshnu is the true savior. You're in a Muslim community though.
@grazzhood71 There are people more devout than you are, and completely convinced their religion is 100% truth. From the Hindu, to the Jain, to the Zoroastrian, to Mormon, Christian, the dark lord Satan, Invisible Pink Unicorn Church, Scientology, Freemasonry, Pastafarianism, and even the Raptor Jesus cult.The worst part is Pastafarianism is more believable than Islam, more rational, and not nearly as damaging. Get the hint; your god is fake.
@grazzhood71 There is so much room for reasonable doubt in Islam it looks like it's the work of fiction, written by a bigoted, spiteful, and very imaginative man in the Arabia. All the evidence we can find points towards Islam being nothing more than a primitive desert cult, same with Christianity, Judaism, and Zorastrianism. At least the gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is compatible with most modern day sciences, it even explicitly states the process of Evolution.
@grazzhood71 How can a 3000 year old religion like Pastafarianism know about evolution? That's a freaking miracle man. If there is a true faith then I think the most likely candidate is Pastafarianism.
@grazzhood71 Islam has basically been proven to be a hoax millions of times over, people just hold on because they're closed minded bigots. Wake the fuck up, you have access to the internet, learn world history, learn theology, learn mythology (another word for theology), learn some science and come back. Come back and try and use actual reason, and logic to convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt Islam is true. Chances are you'll find Islam is one big lie.
Is he (to be counted equal with them) who relieth on a clear proof from his Lord, and a witness from Him reciteth it, and before it was the Book of Moses, an example and a mercy? Such believe therein, and whoso disbelieveth therein of the clans, the Fire is his appointed place. So be not thou in doubt concerning it. Lo! it is the Truth from thy Lord; but most of mankind believe not. (17) Hud Al Quran
@kpnsm - Yes, exactly! The Qur'an has pronounced judgement on itself!! The one who relies on clear proof is right. The one who relies on something that has no clear proof is wrong. So what is the clear proof for Islam then?
@CEMBadmins And if you do not bring them a miracle [according to their (i.e. Quraish-pagans') proposal], they say: "Why have you not brought it?"[] Say: "I but follow what is revealed to me from my Lord. This (the Qur'ân) is nothing but evidences from your Lord, and a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe." (203) Al Araf Al Quran
This does not sound like true free will. In the Quran, there are many passages that state how to treat a non-believer but the ultimate goal is for those that follow Islam, is to convert all to the last man, so that every last person on earth is a believer and conversion by the sword is the most prominate method in the quran. It also states in the Quran that lying to protect Islam is acceptable, so NOTHING that a member of Islam says to me can be believed. what a wate of a religion.
You are so close to the correct question here, I know what it is you are trying to acomplish but I feel you are off just a tad bit. The question that should be asked is: If people truly have free will as to whther or not to follow Islam, then why is there a need as stated in the Quran, to convert non-believers by the Sword??
"Or is it only one particular set of unverifiable claims that count?"
Pretty much.Only that the veracity of the claims is evident to a believer.The better a believer,the quicker the hold.
Let's halt here.
I've posted on four of your vids and you have either avoided my refutations or instituted red herrings.
Here I provided logic why the revelation wasn't 'better' and you ignored it and crossed over it with questions.debates with hard-line extremists like u are near useless
And they say: ‘Why has not an angel been sent down to him?’ But if We had sent down an angel, the matter would have been settled, and then they would not have been granted a respite. (Ch.6: Vs.9-10)
The test is to believe in the unseen.
Also:
And if We had sent down to thee a writing upon parchment and they had felt it with their hands, even then the disbelievers would have surely said, ‘This is nothing but manifest sorcery.’ (Ch.6:V.8)
You see,God has to give them a fare chance.God won't condemn them unless they PROVE to be one of those who 'see' but do not 'believe'.if God had come up with 'better' ways to reveal the Quran they who have sealed hearts would have said "why not even better?"
There would have been no end.
Had God removed the veil between the seen and the unseen the fate of those who do not believe would have been sealed as the test would have been over.
But...It is only when the veil is removed will they believe.
@crashpilot2 it has been proven by non muslim scientist that islam is not man made, the information given to the prophet pbuh was far too exact and well beyond centuries of that times understanding.The information given in the quran is not as simple as what you or i or any man could ever come up with over 100's of years ago it has written in there details of how the world was created how child birth is inside the womb and so on i know you shall write something witty but just do your research 1st
@CEMBadmins This is stupid. If Allah actually did all this then everyone will believe and then there will be no point of us existing since life is a test. And Islam is the second biggest religion in the world and the fastest growing religion in the world. You can't miss it or not hear about these days. The American media are making Islam look bad so the average Joe would straight away HATE Islam and not bother looking into it. And Bin Laden who works for the American government, point proven.
@crashpilot2 as long as you submit to the will of the creator you are a muslims , you need to make a differance between islam and man made religion like sunah, shia , christianity .. etc , scripture is a mercy for thoses who cant accept anything that contradict reason and common sense even if it comes from their fathers , so called muslims today are just like any other religious people on earth blind followers of their forfathers who wrote books and asociated them to god ,
@crashpilot2 again everything you see “obeys” the Laws of Nature. so let the planets blow up it does not change anything , suicide does not stop you body from growing old but rather leads it to death and decay , your energy(soul) like when in deams will live on but the testing periode will be over , there is no escape, you are somehow a prisoner of these laws , use reason and common sense ,use it wisely with sincerity and you will succed , any resistance is obsolete , peace
So the poor people that are born in Ethiopia and are starving every single day will be burning in Hell because they didn't follow Islam (I doubt they would even know what Islam is, they are born into poverty and struggle to get food or clean water)
That I find would be very harsh and not even a test because there would be no Qu'rans there. So they would face there life as a living Hell... and then when they do die of starvation... They go to Hell?!?! Fuck Religion
The Stupidity that the level you mentally thinking is fucking Handicap. Allah (God) sent the Quran Down to Mohamed [S.L.A.W.] to spread it to the people. Most of the people agreed to follow the steps to Islam while others refused and wanted only violence. Allah (God) is testing seeing how we react to things in our delay lives.
[[@assalamualaikum751]] YOu are a Fat Ass S.P.A.N. your religon is False. Your S.P.A.N. preist said the world was going to end about 1 Week Ago. Please do Me A Favor And Not Reply. Opions are Opions Right...
The Stupidity of you young folks makes me upset. For once if you hate the religon Islam i don't give 10 fucks just shut the fuck up and get on with you life. You Fucking Words won't END islam. LONG LIVE ISLAM
Islam is demonstrably exactly 33% true... unfortunately after the first 4 words it all goes disastrously wrong... "There is no God...". (At least in English).
totaly got your point ,again , cant make it easier than this.
fact 1- there is order in the universe .
fact 2-, everything in this usnivers willingly and unwillingly submit to that order
fact 3-you submit unwillingly , by breathing growing old ..etc ,but more than the rest of the creation you have a choice to completely submit and live in harmony with that order or not ( free will) 4- that order is called islam ,
U are swiing in your enswer while scriptures are a mercy ,
@thundercl00n having a pre concieved image of god and his system (islam) makes it hard to see beyond that image ,,just like ,, finding a baby ,,, and looking at male subjects trying to fing the mother ,,
in order to see clearer , one must think outsind of what is displayed by the masses , the greatest discoveries where made looking at things from different angles and perspectives ,,peace ,
i tried to say as much i could in this smal space ,, but i hope you got the idea ,, and that it made sense to you .the poit was not only the quran is enough ,, but even no quran is enough for us humans to find the way . meanning quran is short cut , a mercy , peace
@MegaYiwen And you need to carefully listen to he points made in the video again because you obviously didn´t listen to them or had problems with understanding them.
so.. islam is not a choice , rather it is the only way available , as everything that exist is muslim in constant submission ,, willingly: as trees animals plansts and so...or unwillingly ,ex: as someone who deos not want to sleep but end up sleeping anyways because he cant go against it , but you can go against it in your mind and even make your self heard , it is a choice only for the resonable beings that we are , and it is a short test only for humans who actually agreed to take it ,
first you have to understand that islam translated means submission to god meanning the natural state of everything, how ever only humans have a choice they are given reason and all the tools and signes they need to find god, you are a muslim only if you use your intelect and reason to find him and join nature in its sumbmission ,, beliving in the scriptures is not a must , it is only there as a merci for thoses who seek more guidance , but the masses miss the point and blind follow ,
"all the carziness that the so called muslims come up with are no where to be found in the quran. instead they find them in books called the sunah and hadith writen many years after the death of the prophet . things such as the killing of black dogs .music is a sin , drinking camel urin , the stonning and much more ,, the quran is free from all this man made non sense , for sunnis ,shiits and much more other sects.the quran is useless wthout their sheihks,for whom god alone is never enough
@CEMBadmins yes but if he had sent the message straight into the minds then there is no free will then it is forced, allah blesses us with the option of free will so we can choose which path we wish to take. allah has given guidence is the quran i myself know i aint the best to answer these sort of disscusions but this much i do know to doubt is a option given with free will if we was told or born with this iformation inprinted into our minds free will would no longer be free will.
Islam is a perfect example of circular reasoning which goes like this: Qur'an is God's words because Muhammad said so and Muhammad was God's messenger because Qur'an says so! Of course, ciircular reasoning is a logical fallacy -- but that's never bothered the multitudes who've embraced this vile religion. But you have to give credit to that self-agrandizing bullshitter Muhammad because he convinced followers never to ask questions -- and to blindly submit to the alleged word of Allah.
@Painterly51 dare you to say that in a mosque. your one of those guys that thinks he is ten men on the net prob picked last in school sports and only ever had one friend [your hand] to say your oppinion is one think to do it while insulting others beleifs thats another. you must be a real man to speak on the net like this mr ten men.
@Painterly51 and you are a muslim hating fool. your reply was pointless. Your previous comment is stupid and irrelevent as you have done no research as is obvious in your comment.The information given in the quran is not as simple as what you or i or any man could ever come up with over 100's of years ago it has written in there details of how the world was created how child birth is inside the womb and so on i know you shall write something witty but just do your research 1st thank you.
"This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah; Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them; And who believe in that which is revealed unto thee (Muhammad) and that which was revealed before thee, and are certain of the Hereafter. These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful. " - Noble Quran 002:001-005
Dude you will never get a straight answer from Muslims. They will believe in their it till the very end, and no logical questions will score any goals, because logic is irrelevant in Islam. It works like this: "mafeesh leh" arabic for "there's no why".
They have faith for no reason other than emotional cultural attachment. There are so many muslims in the world, they feel very strong about the community aspect of it, and they never stop to ask themselves "hey, does this make any sense?"
Excellent, I ask this question about all religions. If this God thing was all powerful then indeed he would let us know. None of this silly shilly shallying with metaphores and no shows. Twaddle. And that Mohammed fellow, he was no better than he should have been, attacking caravans, marrying young girls tut tut. And he based his new religion on both Christianity and Judaism, but added a few little things just for himself along the way.
My point is,that Islams allah DOESN'T leave room for doubt OR discussion AND that in fact Islam is described ALL THROUGHOUT the Bible.Checkout EZEKIEL 28-32,it NAMES all of the nations that will ACTUALLY be thrown into the pit by Messiah,they are ALL now Muslim nations.
Nothing is true beyond any exception, not even the laws of nature let alone any "religion". And islam is not even a religion as far as religion goes. :) S
Open a Bible to Zechariah Chapter 5,in it there is a warning of an ALAH(curse)spreading over the land.How could that be possible????Alah=Curse....Strong's Hebrew-English Concordance.
@Essa0601 Dunce,Zechariah warns of a curse spreading over the land,the word he used in Hebrew is ALAH(pronounced just like mohammads"god")he then warns of an evil shepherd attacking Israel,coincidentally Islamic eschatology also predicts their Mahdi attacking Israel.Myth;there is no God...FACT;the God of the Bible warned about an ALAH(curse)and Islam,the violent cult worships a "god"of war whose name MEANS CURSE in the God of the Bible's language!!Wake Up!!!!
@jimmmmybrady sorry, i misunderstood ur stand! :) ....mostly every religion have predictions that are obvious like enemies, heroes, natural disaster and so on. I'm an exmuslim and not defending Islam but from what I remember Allah (not Alah) comes from Elah which means god in arabic. let just say that time they used a drunk translator :p
@Essa0601 Understand that allah and alah are ARBITRARY spellings,they could both be spelled either way,they are pronounced the same.The fact remains though,that ALAH in Hebrew MEANS curse.It meant CURSE looong before mohammad was born.Check for yourself....STRONG'S Hebrew-English Dictionary.
@Essa0601 How about this,do I think it's coincidence that ALL angry muslims ALWAYS revert to sexual percersions in their idiotic discourse??No.Islam itself is a blaspheming percersion.So of course submitters to the Black Stone also lead perverted lives.Are you one of them?You sound just like one of the filthy cult members.
Why is the Arabic word,or symbol,for allah a serpent moving toward a rod???Why doe the word Alah in Hebrew mean CURSE? Are these facts coincidence????NO.
Why is the Arabic word,or symbol,for allah a serpent moving toward a rod???Why doe the word Alah in Hebrew mean CURSE? Are these facts coincidence????NO.
@Essa0601 Is that a rhetorical question? :) Maybe the Quran is revealing its origin or maybe the signature is just another "test". All the maybes would indicate there is something trying to trick people.
Islam is submission, it is blind obedience. Doubt is not permitted even though there are many reasons to doubt the faith. If some Muslims believed Allah had commanded them to worship Satan or to destroy themselves and all around them, they may feel duty bound to obey without question or reservation. This is the danger that lies at the heart of any blind faith not just Islam. Like love, faith can also be blind and lead people in terrible directions. Where doubt is not permitted, reason is lost.
@leshark The path of the freshest bag is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the isles of the quicky mart. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will crunch down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers with whole wheat breads and rabbit food!
How can Allah be Just or Merciful if He makes arrogant people drink boiling water for all Eternity? How the hell can being wrong and/or arrogant justify, err, Hell?
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yazenbasil 2 months ago in playlist CEMBadmins Playlist
There is room for unreasonable doubt simply because they are either lazy or arrogant or both...
grazzhood71 2 months ago
@grazzhood71 The great lord Satan left it beyond a shadow of a doubt his religion is the 100% true. It's only the arrogant who deny he created us all, and claim it was their crazy god, or the lazy who do not want to make blood sacrifices at the altar every sunrise and sunset. Satan has laid all this out for you, stop being blind, and do all the things the occult tells you to do you lazy fuck.
GouledXD 2 weeks ago
@grazzhood71 See how easy it is to just claim something? I don't doubt because I'm lazy, or arrogant, it's because if you look at the Qu'ran with truly, unmitigated reason, and logic it seems like some guy wrote an angry book filled with fiction.
If you grew up in a Christian community you'd fool yourself the Bible is 100% true. If you grew up in a Hindu community you'd think VIshnu is the true savior. You're in a Muslim community though.
GouledXD 2 weeks ago
@grazzhood71 There are people more devout than you are, and completely convinced their religion is 100% truth. From the Hindu, to the Jain, to the Zoroastrian, to Mormon, Christian, the dark lord Satan, Invisible Pink Unicorn Church, Scientology, Freemasonry, Pastafarianism, and even the Raptor Jesus cult.The worst part is Pastafarianism is more believable than Islam, more rational, and not nearly as damaging. Get the hint; your god is fake.
GouledXD 2 weeks ago
@grazzhood71 There is so much room for reasonable doubt in Islam it looks like it's the work of fiction, written by a bigoted, spiteful, and very imaginative man in the Arabia. All the evidence we can find points towards Islam being nothing more than a primitive desert cult, same with Christianity, Judaism, and Zorastrianism. At least the gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is compatible with most modern day sciences, it even explicitly states the process of Evolution.
GouledXD 2 weeks ago
@grazzhood71 How can a 3000 year old religion like Pastafarianism know about evolution? That's a freaking miracle man. If there is a true faith then I think the most likely candidate is Pastafarianism.
GouledXD 2 weeks ago
@grazzhood71 Islam has basically been proven to be a hoax millions of times over, people just hold on because they're closed minded bigots. Wake the fuck up, you have access to the internet, learn world history, learn theology, learn mythology (another word for theology), learn some science and come back. Come back and try and use actual reason, and logic to convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt Islam is true. Chances are you'll find Islam is one big lie.
GouledXD 2 weeks ago
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memy123ify 3 months ago
Your vids are really good. Your approach is classy. Very nice. Peace.
PawnBACM 6 months ago
Is he (to be counted equal with them) who relieth on a clear proof from his Lord, and a witness from Him reciteth it, and before it was the Book of Moses, an example and a mercy? Such believe therein, and whoso disbelieveth therein of the clans, the Fire is his appointed place. So be not thou in doubt concerning it. Lo! it is the Truth from thy Lord; but most of mankind believe not. (17) Hud Al Quran
kpnsm 7 months ago
@kpnsm - Yes, exactly! The Qur'an has pronounced judgement on itself!! The one who relies on clear proof is right. The one who relies on something that has no clear proof is wrong. So what is the clear proof for Islam then?
CEMBadmins 7 months ago
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@CEMBadmins And if you do not bring them a miracle [according to their (i.e. Quraish-pagans') proposal], they say: "Why have you not brought it?"[] Say: "I but follow what is revealed to me from my Lord. This (the Qur'ân) is nothing but evidences from your Lord, and a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe." (203) Al Araf Al Quran
kpnsm 7 months ago
switch those, I had to make 2 post, the last one is first.
lemzia 7 months ago
This does not sound like true free will. In the Quran, there are many passages that state how to treat a non-believer but the ultimate goal is for those that follow Islam, is to convert all to the last man, so that every last person on earth is a believer and conversion by the sword is the most prominate method in the quran. It also states in the Quran that lying to protect Islam is acceptable, so NOTHING that a member of Islam says to me can be believed. what a wate of a religion.
lemzia 7 months ago
You are so close to the correct question here, I know what it is you are trying to acomplish but I feel you are off just a tad bit. The question that should be asked is: If people truly have free will as to whther or not to follow Islam, then why is there a need as stated in the Quran, to convert non-believers by the Sword??
lemzia 7 months ago
there is no freew ill in islam - it is all predestined !
staatsfeindnr4 8 months ago
@CEMBadmins
"Or is it only one particular set of unverifiable claims that count?"
Pretty much.Only that the veracity of the claims is evident to a believer.The better a believer,the quicker the hold.
Let's halt here.
I've posted on four of your vids and you have either avoided my refutations or instituted red herrings.
Here I provided logic why the revelation wasn't 'better' and you ignored it and crossed over it with questions.debates with hard-line extremists like u are near useless
Peace
setandlet 8 months ago
Here's the answer:
And they say: ‘Why has not an angel been sent down to him?’ But if We had sent down an angel, the matter would have been settled, and then they would not have been granted a respite. (Ch.6: Vs.9-10)
The test is to believe in the unseen.
Also:
And if We had sent down to thee a writing upon parchment and they had felt it with their hands, even then the disbelievers would have surely said, ‘This is nothing but manifest sorcery.’ (Ch.6:V.8)
setandlet 8 months ago
You see,God has to give them a fare chance.God won't condemn them unless they PROVE to be one of those who 'see' but do not 'believe'.if God had come up with 'better' ways to reveal the Quran they who have sealed hearts would have said "why not even better?"
There would have been no end.
Had God removed the veil between the seen and the unseen the fate of those who do not believe would have been sealed as the test would have been over.
But...It is only when the veil is removed will they believe.
setandlet 8 months ago
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setandlet 8 months ago
@crashpilot2 it has been proven by non muslim scientist that islam is not man made, the information given to the prophet pbuh was far too exact and well beyond centuries of that times understanding.The information given in the quran is not as simple as what you or i or any man could ever come up with over 100's of years ago it has written in there details of how the world was created how child birth is inside the womb and so on i know you shall write something witty but just do your research 1st
goku12345sfa3 8 months ago
@CEMBadmins This is stupid. If Allah actually did all this then everyone will believe and then there will be no point of us existing since life is a test. And Islam is the second biggest religion in the world and the fastest growing religion in the world. You can't miss it or not hear about these days. The American media are making Islam look bad so the average Joe would straight away HATE Islam and not bother looking into it. And Bin Laden who works for the American government, point proven.
MultiGreat1 8 months ago
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AziMeX 4 months ago
@crashpilot2 as long as you submit to the will of the creator you are a muslims , you need to make a differance between islam and man made religion like sunah, shia , christianity .. etc , scripture is a mercy for thoses who cant accept anything that contradict reason and common sense even if it comes from their fathers , so called muslims today are just like any other religious people on earth blind followers of their forfathers who wrote books and asociated them to god ,
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
@crashpilot2 again everything you see “obeys” the Laws of Nature. so let the planets blow up it does not change anything , suicide does not stop you body from growing old but rather leads it to death and decay , your energy(soul) like when in deams will live on but the testing periode will be over , there is no escape, you are somehow a prisoner of these laws , use reason and common sense ,use it wisely with sincerity and you will succed , any resistance is obsolete , peace
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
So the poor people that are born in Ethiopia and are starving every single day will be burning in Hell because they didn't follow Islam (I doubt they would even know what Islam is, they are born into poverty and struggle to get food or clean water)
That I find would be very harsh and not even a test because there would be no Qu'rans there. So they would face there life as a living Hell... and then when they do die of starvation... They go to Hell?!?! Fuck Religion
Ps3Homepage 9 months ago
The Stupidity that the level you mentally thinking is fucking Handicap. Allah (God) sent the Quran Down to Mohamed [S.L.A.W.] to spread it to the people. Most of the people agreed to follow the steps to Islam while others refused and wanted only violence. Allah (God) is testing seeing how we react to things in our delay lives.
assalamualaikum751 9 months ago
[[@assalamualaikum751]] YOu are a Fat Ass S.P.A.N. your religon is False. Your S.P.A.N. preist said the world was going to end about 1 Week Ago. Please do Me A Favor And Not Reply. Opions are Opions Right...
assalamualaikum751 9 months ago
BECAUSE IT WOULD'NT BE A TEST.....duhh
ishgood100 9 months ago
The Stupidity of you young folks makes me upset. For once if you hate the religon Islam i don't give 10 fucks just shut the fuck up and get on with you life. You Fucking Words won't END islam. LONG LIVE ISLAM
assalamualaikum751 9 months ago
Islam is demonstrably exactly 33% true... unfortunately after the first 4 words it all goes disastrously wrong... "There is no God...". (At least in English).
alchemistapf 9 months ago
As CEMBadmins said, the same arguments apply perfectley well to christianity too.
5mnz7fg 9 months ago
Watch the image of Baphomet you will see 2 crescent symbols which is today holy for muslims.
GrandmasterTigerfist 9 months ago
totaly got your point ,again , cant make it easier than this.
fact 1- there is order in the universe .
fact 2-, everything in this usnivers willingly and unwillingly submit to that order
fact 3-you submit unwillingly , by breathing growing old ..etc ,but more than the rest of the creation you have a choice to completely submit and live in harmony with that order or not ( free will) 4- that order is called islam ,
U are swiing in your enswer while scriptures are a mercy ,
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
@MegaYiwen ... :
fact 4 ... :
you don't make ISLAM the TRUE RELIGION or GOD REAL just by expanding its concept to " ... THINGS ARE WHAT THEY ARE ..."
thundercl00ne 9 months ago
@thundercl00n having a pre concieved image of god and his system (islam) makes it hard to see beyond that image ,,just like ,, finding a baby ,,, and looking at male subjects trying to fing the mother ,,
in order to see clearer , one must think outsind of what is displayed by the masses , the greatest discoveries where made looking at things from different angles and perspectives ,,peace ,
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
Nice video, but you are assuming that Muslims and Christians can think logically about their religions... they can't, they have been brainwashed.
xNoReligionx 9 months ago
i tried to say as much i could in this smal space ,, but i hope you got the idea ,, and that it made sense to you .the poit was not only the quran is enough ,, but even no quran is enough for us humans to find the way . meanning quran is short cut , a mercy , peace
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
@MegaYiwen And you need to carefully listen to he points made in the video again because you obviously didn´t listen to them or had problems with understanding them.
katnils 9 months ago
so.. islam is not a choice , rather it is the only way available , as everything that exist is muslim in constant submission ,, willingly: as trees animals plansts and so...or unwillingly ,ex: as someone who deos not want to sleep but end up sleeping anyways because he cant go against it , but you can go against it in your mind and even make your self heard , it is a choice only for the resonable beings that we are , and it is a short test only for humans who actually agreed to take it ,
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
first you have to understand that islam translated means submission to god meanning the natural state of everything, how ever only humans have a choice they are given reason and all the tools and signes they need to find god, you are a muslim only if you use your intelect and reason to find him and join nature in its sumbmission ,, beliving in the scriptures is not a must , it is only there as a merci for thoses who seek more guidance , but the masses miss the point and blind follow ,
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
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"all the carziness that the so called muslims come up with are no where to be found in the quran. instead they find them in books called the sunah and hadith writen many years after the death of the prophet . things such as the killing of black dogs .music is a sin , drinking camel urin , the stonning and much more ,, the quran is free from all this man made non sense , for sunnis ,shiits and much more other sects.the quran is useless wthout their sheihks,for whom god alone is never enough
MegaYiwen 9 months ago
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@CEMBadmins yes but if he had sent the message straight into the minds then there is no free will then it is forced, allah blesses us with the option of free will so we can choose which path we wish to take. allah has given guidence is the quran i myself know i aint the best to answer these sort of disscusions but this much i do know to doubt is a option given with free will if we was told or born with this iformation inprinted into our minds free will would no longer be free will.
goku12345sfa3 9 months ago
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goku12345sfa3 9 months ago
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No Allah did not. Most criticism about Islam can be answered.
Spined1234 9 months ago
Islam is a perfect example of circular reasoning which goes like this: Qur'an is God's words because Muhammad said so and Muhammad was God's messenger because Qur'an says so! Of course, ciircular reasoning is a logical fallacy -- but that's never bothered the multitudes who've embraced this vile religion. But you have to give credit to that self-agrandizing bullshitter Muhammad because he convinced followers never to ask questions -- and to blindly submit to the alleged word of Allah.
Painterly51 9 months ago
@Painterly51 dare you to say that in a mosque. your one of those guys that thinks he is ten men on the net prob picked last in school sports and only ever had one friend [your hand] to say your oppinion is one think to do it while insulting others beleifs thats another. you must be a real man to speak on the net like this mr ten men.
goku12345sfa3 9 months ago
@goku12345sfa3 Not that it makes that much difference --(then again, you are a Muslim) but I'm not a guy.
Painterly51 9 months ago
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@Painterly51 and you are a muslim hating fool. your reply was pointless. Your previous comment is stupid and irrelevent as you have done no research as is obvious in your comment.The information given in the quran is not as simple as what you or i or any man could ever come up with over 100's of years ago it has written in there details of how the world was created how child birth is inside the womb and so on i know you shall write something witty but just do your research 1st thank you.
goku12345sfa3 8 months ago
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"This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah; Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them; And who believe in that which is revealed unto thee (Muhammad) and that which was revealed before thee, and are certain of the Hereafter. These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful. " - Noble Quran 002:001-005
CONV3RSE 9 months ago
you answer this topic yourself at 1:40
goku12345sfa3 9 months ago
Dude you will never get a straight answer from Muslims. They will believe in their it till the very end, and no logical questions will score any goals, because logic is irrelevant in Islam. It works like this: "mafeesh leh" arabic for "there's no why".
They have faith for no reason other than emotional cultural attachment. There are so many muslims in the world, they feel very strong about the community aspect of it, and they never stop to ask themselves "hey, does this make any sense?"
leptismagna10 9 months ago
@leptismagna10 cultural?? to look after one another makes no sense to you?
goku12345sfa3 9 months ago
a Muslim response.
watch?v=e7J3YMXkXnA
orgolioitalia1 9 months ago
You did a great job of putting a lot in to a very short clip.
Lifeiscurious 9 months ago
Excellent, I ask this question about all religions. If this God thing was all powerful then indeed he would let us know. None of this silly shilly shallying with metaphores and no shows. Twaddle. And that Mohammed fellow, he was no better than he should have been, attacking caravans, marrying young girls tut tut. And he based his new religion on both Christianity and Judaism, but added a few little things just for himself along the way.
Hogarth00 9 months ago
My point is,that Islams allah DOESN'T leave room for doubt OR discussion AND that in fact Islam is described ALL THROUGHOUT the Bible.Checkout EZEKIEL 28-32,it NAMES all of the nations that will ACTUALLY be thrown into the pit by Messiah,they are ALL now Muslim nations.
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
Nothing is true beyond any exception, not even the laws of nature let alone any "religion". And islam is not even a religion as far as religion goes. :) S
StyngRay1 9 months ago
Great Video!
FIRSTGLADI8R 9 months ago
@MrPeace474 and the Animals, trees, viruses, bacteria and Asians .... too racist? :p
Essa0601 9 months ago
Your logic is irrefutable. :-)
Puchicas9 9 months ago
Open a Bible to Zechariah Chapter 5,in it there is a warning of an ALAH(curse)spreading over the land.How could that be possible????Alah=Curse....Strong's Hebrew-English Concordance.
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
@jimmmmybrady
Lady, Quran comes a lot from the Bible and the greek and rome philosophers!
curse spreading over the land ( in the dark ages and myth)= a flu spreading over the world (science)
Essa0601 9 months ago
@Essa0601 Dunce,Zechariah warns of a curse spreading over the land,the word he used in Hebrew is ALAH(pronounced just like mohammads"god")he then warns of an evil shepherd attacking Israel,coincidentally Islamic eschatology also predicts their Mahdi attacking Israel.Myth;there is no God...FACT;the God of the Bible warned about an ALAH(curse)and Islam,the violent cult worships a "god"of war whose name MEANS CURSE in the God of the Bible's language!!Wake Up!!!!
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
@jimmmmybrady sorry, i misunderstood ur stand! :) ....mostly every religion have predictions that are obvious like enemies, heroes, natural disaster and so on. I'm an exmuslim and not defending Islam but from what I remember Allah (not Alah) comes from Elah which means god in arabic. let just say that time they used a drunk translator :p
Essa0601 9 months ago
@Essa0601 Understand that allah and alah are ARBITRARY spellings,they could both be spelled either way,they are pronounced the same.The fact remains though,that ALAH in Hebrew MEANS curse.It meant CURSE looong before mohammad was born.Check for yourself....STRONG'S Hebrew-English Dictionary.
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
@jimmmmybrady you wake up.... actually im still confused about where you stand in this argument!
and just for fun, there is a river in US called Mississippi and it means suck my d!ck in arabic. do u think that's a coincidence??
Essa0601 9 months ago
@Essa0601 How about this,do I think it's coincidence that ALL angry muslims ALWAYS revert to sexual percersions in their idiotic discourse??No.Islam itself is a blaspheming percersion.So of course submitters to the Black Stone also lead perverted lives.Are you one of them?You sound just like one of the filthy cult members.
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
@jimmmmybrady perversions.....
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
Why is the Arabic word,or symbol,for allah a serpent moving toward a rod???Why doe the word Alah in Hebrew mean CURSE? Are these facts coincidence????NO.
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
Why is the Arabic word,or symbol,for allah a serpent moving toward a rod???Why doe the word Alah in Hebrew mean CURSE? Are these facts coincidence????NO.
jimmmmybrady 9 months ago
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1:43, that also begs the question of why Allah would have to test anything if he knows everything.
DrShaym 9 months ago 3
At 1:25 there is "666" if you look closely.
Marchawc 9 months ago
@Marchawc oh shit! do u think Satan did that and left his signature?
Essa0601 9 months ago
@Essa0601 Is that a rhetorical question? :) Maybe the Quran is revealing its origin or maybe the signature is just another "test". All the maybes would indicate there is something trying to trick people.
Marchawc 9 months ago
Islam is submission, it is blind obedience. Doubt is not permitted even though there are many reasons to doubt the faith. If some Muslims believed Allah had commanded them to worship Satan or to destroy themselves and all around them, they may feel duty bound to obey without question or reservation. This is the danger that lies at the heart of any blind faith not just Islam. Like love, faith can also be blind and lead people in terrible directions. Where doubt is not permitted, reason is lost.
Marchawc 9 months ago
Exactly!
Every human understands a smile. Why doesn't every human being understand Allah?
StopSpamming1 9 months ago 4
@StopSpamming1 Not true, some people think when a person smiles at them, they want to have hot, nasty sex with them.
kittycatcarley 9 months ago
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@kittycatcarley
} "Not true, some people think when a person smiles at them, they want to have hot, nasty sex with them."
LOL
Oh dear, you are so right! I will adjust me worldview accordingly. :)
StopSpamming1 9 months ago
Extremly well said :) You nailed it :)
All love from me Jasmine
Eopyk 9 months ago
@Eopyk Haven't heard from you in a while, how are you :3
TheEpicion 9 months ago
@TheEpicion I am fine :D Hope you are well as well :)
All love from me Jasmine
Eopyk 9 months ago
Please make a video on Sharia law. Not many Muslims are aware of it.
geniusjas87 9 months ago 5
@geniusjas87 they are but they believe it is justice cuz it's from Allah, if Allah said to kill every third child, trust me they will :/
Essa0601 9 months ago
Maybe Allah simply prefers the company of the gullible ;-)
detersgumig 9 months ago 4
well said.
viicISrotcib 9 months ago
brilliant
ThePakistaniAtheist 9 months ago
Did Allah leave room for reasonable doubt about Islam or not?
NOT.
Simply because Allah didn't create Islam. Mohammed did.
RoadRunnerLaser 9 months ago 39
@RoadRunnerLaser Heh, good one.
theclinger 9 months ago
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boskinator 9 months ago
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@RoadRunnerLaser
you wrote: "Did Allah leave room for reasonable doubt about Islam or not?
NOT.
Simply because Allah didn't create Islam. Mohammed did."
Question: From whom did Mohammed (supposedly) receive his divine wisdom and revelations from?
Please give a thumbs down to RoadRunnerlaser's comment above if you know the answer, everyone :)
boskinator 9 months ago
Simple trenchant reasoning. Excellent!
CorporalNym 9 months ago
Bollocks!
UmmaDoMe2011 9 months ago
There is no poofs except cheesy poofs ! Says prophet Eric Cartmen Peace be upon him and Butters Inshaba'Allah!
BusinessEdgeRadio 9 months ago 21
@BusinessEdgeRadio CHEEZOS CHRIST!
leshark 9 months ago
@leshark The path of the freshest bag is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the isles of the quicky mart. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will crunch down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers with whole wheat breads and rabbit food!
BusinessEdgeRadio 9 months ago
@BusinessEdgeRadio how the FUCK is this in the top comments????
RichousFlowzz 5 months ago
@RichousFlowzz Never doubt the power of Prophet Cartmen (peace be upon him) !
BusinessEdgeRadio 5 months ago
"Faith would become a knowledge" - that's the most stupid answer I've ever heard for questions like that...
filek1011 9 months ago