Jennings is the one in the NBA playoffs as a rookie leading his team against the Hawks. I think he should have got ROY because he is actually leading his team to the playoffs and about to beat the Hawks tomorrow night.
rubio need strength or athleticism jennings has athleticism and super speed as well as scoring ability i was the one saying his the best in the draft always got shutdown now wat haters
i like rubio but correction he's 6'4" and 19 yrs old, and i dont think he was talking about height but muscle and u make urself sound so ignorant calling someone a fucktart who u dnt kno jus because he said rubio is too small...
im a brandon jennings fan big time he need to learn to shut his,mouth up or it might get him in trouble. he still a great player just need a jumpshot.
i made that comment 5 months agi im probably the biggest jennings fan up here in know more about he really work on his jumper in the offseason and what does have to do with being a coach
i think rubio and jennings r both unproven players...i also predict Tyreke Evans will outshine both of them and win rookie of the year cause he has no real help in Sacremento and will most likely start unlike those 2. I wouldnt consider euro stats when comparing the 2. Jennings may have been uncomfortable playing for a euro team whereas Rubio was not.
You forget though: usually, "rookie of the year" is on a winning team, so if Tyreke Evans does play well but has little help (which could result in a losing record), he may be overlooked. They usually choose the rookie who plays well, but who's also on a winning team, which is sometimes unfair considering that ROY should be based on who's the better rookie in terms of skill, teamplay, contributions, etc. rather than record like the MVP. There have been a few exceptions though...
1. Can North Carolina's Ty Lawson be a good half-court point guard?
While I was at the USA Basketball trials in Colorado Springs, Colo., last week, I asked one NBA scout, "Other than his height [just over 6 feet in shoes], why is Ty Lawson so rarely mentioned as a lottery pick?" The scout's feeling was that plenty of teams looked at Lawson as too much of a product of a transition system, and a weak defender.
The weak-defense part is legitimate -- see what Jeff Teague did to him at Wake Forest on Jan. 11 -- but to label him as a point guard who's only good in transition is inaccurate. Lawson is devastating on the break -- 37.91 percent of his offense came in transition, according to Synergy Sports' scouting database, and at 1.21 points per possession (PPP) on the break, he's the most efficient of any first-round point guard in that regard.
But what happens when we remove Lawson's transition possessions from the equation and look only at half-court situations? Using Synergy's possession-by-possession logs from 2008-09 games, I compared the first-round college point guards' PPP in 1-on-1 situations, shots out of pick-and-rolls, passes out of pick-and-rolls and spot-up shots, and put them in the chart below.
The numbers indicate that Lawson is the total package: His 1.19 PPP off of pick-and-rolls is better than any other point (save UCLA's Jrue Holiday, whom I've asterisked because he had only 19 pick-and-rolls logged all season, compared to Lawson's 96). Lawson's 1.12 PPP on passes out of pick-and-rolls ranks first among this point guard class, too.
He's also the best spot-up shooter of the group, at 1.20 PPP, even better than Stephen Curry at 1.19 PPP --
what? lmao stephen curry is the best shooter in this draft trust me. points per posession do not indicate that. considering that curry had double/triples coming his way while lawson got open baskets due to people doubling hansborough, it indicates that curry got 1.19 ppp vs better wing defenders and multiple wing defenders. lawson got 1.2 ppp vs point guard defenders who normally arent great in college or with wide open shots. curry is the best shooter in this draft bar none.
lmao sorry but the 2 guards in curry's conference were a MUCH TOUGHER CHALLENGE defensively than the 1 guards in nc's conference especially when the defenses were usually geared to hansborough. curry>>>>>>>>>>>hansborough no contest.
LOL U cant name 2 2 guards in curry conference so how would you know. How many of those guys who played againts Curry will be in the NBA? I know none while Ty lawson played againts 4 ACC AKA PG. Teague ,Tyrese Rice, Greivis Vasquez, Jack Mclinton.
No one was a better decision-maker than Lawson, either: His 3.48-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio was more than three times better than Evans' or Teague's. I understand the reasoning in drafting athletes such as Evans or Holiday based on potential, but there's a real possibility that Lawson might end up being the best pure floor general to emerge from this draft.
nope. i have seen many players with great asst/t.o ratios like jose calderon and brevin knight. they however did not have the skill/talent to be the best in their class. thats whats gonna happen with lawson. the good thing is lawson now has billups & anthony carter, 2 good vet guards, to teach him the ropes.
Jennings is going to be mighty embarrassed if in 5 years, Rubio has developed into the Pistol Pete of his era, while he himself is struggling to adjust. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm just pointing out how that would haunt him later in his career.
... jennings avg 5.5 ppg in his first year in europe with limited minutes. rubio avg 10ppg in 22 minutes with a team that had more than one nba prospect and a team that he was familiar with for a long time... considering that jason williams was also hyped to be a pistol pete, i dont think much about rubio. if rubio is a bust i wouldnt be surprised one bit.
Rubio, Jennings, Curry all overrated. Ty Lawson will be the best PG in this Class. Dont let the height fool you he will be a 10 10 guy night in and night out in the NBA. How tall is Chris paul and Lawson has the body build of a chuancy Billups.
pfft c-mon chris paul is a totally unique point guard man lawson is nowhere near his skillset not even college. chris paul was an ASSASIN in college trust me if he doesnt foul out of their last tournament game they advance. lawson had a powerhouse team of course hes gonna play well. the best pg in this draft class is not lawson it is tyreke evans. str8 and simple evans is a better player.
you can make the same case for carolina. You can say it was a powerhouse, but what was the only reason people weren't picking them to go all the way? They feared lawson wasnt one hundred percent. You could have everyone on the team but lawson was the engine that made it work. I hate how you make it seem as if he cant be near paul. He has just as good handles, on the college level made the right decisions jus like paul. Paul has an edge in half court. Lawson is the best true PG in draft.
I feel maybe teague is would make a run for best PG also. He is in the same position as Paul. Dont know how he would do in ATL tho. Johnson would handle the ball alot so who knows.
Brandon Jennings has the most potential but he has probably the most work to do. It's hard to discern as to whether or not he has the will to take his game to the next level. There have been allot of talented PG's in the past that just dosed off. It's up to Brandon as to how good he gets.
Haha Hasheem Thabeet
HSDJun 1 year ago
That Spanish faggot sucks
xTruLyXaNxIcoNx 1 year ago
He travelled at :34
skeetajohnson 1 year ago
Jennings is the one in the NBA playoffs as a rookie leading his team against the Hawks. I think he should have got ROY because he is actually leading his team to the playoffs and about to beat the Hawks tomorrow night.
sicklebums7 1 year ago
@sicklebums7 u know that brandon is pretty inconsistent?
also, the bucks went 14- 2 when john salmons arrived and bogut is having a really good season.
either way u cant look past a 20-5-5 rookie
YaoEgg 1 year ago
rubio need strength or athleticism jennings has athleticism and super speed as well as scoring ability i was the one saying his the best in the draft always got shutdown now wat haters
Arobbanks 2 years ago
Ricky Rubio is war to small to survive in the NBA.
MrBdobb 2 years ago
He's 6'5'' and 19 years old. What's small about that, fucktart?
TheNBAFanatic 2 years ago
That fool is 6-4 180 pounds he's weak. He may have hieght but no Bulk. He only weighs 15 more pounds then Iverson and he's only 6 foot.
MrBdobb 2 years ago
i like rubio but correction he's 6'4" and 19 yrs old, and i dont think he was talking about height but muscle and u make urself sound so ignorant calling someone a fucktart who u dnt kno jus because he said rubio is too small...
AlterBreaker 2 years ago
i see rubio as a nash but just not a great shotter, both of these guys will do good in the NBA
Johnny1234000 2 years ago
Maybe more like Jason Kidd. Kidd isnt a great shooter as far as I can remember.
crazyasianskills 2 years ago
im a brandon jennings fan big time he need to learn to shut his,mouth up or it might get him in trouble. he still a great player just need a jumpshot.
quanp1 2 years ago
QUANP U'LL MAKE A BUM ASS COACH.
brewcityuncut08 2 years ago
i made that comment 5 months agi im probably the biggest jennings fan up here in know more about he really work on his jumper in the offseason and what does have to do with being a coach
quanp1 2 years ago
5 months later jennings is a beast!!!!
bigddagenius 2 years ago
u aint lying jennings is beasting him and tyreke is beasting for rookies
quanp1 2 years ago
what's wrong with speaking your mind? Mj did and does it all the time
AlterBreaker 2 years ago
i think rubio and jennings r both unproven players...i also predict Tyreke Evans will outshine both of them and win rookie of the year cause he has no real help in Sacremento and will most likely start unlike those 2. I wouldnt consider euro stats when comparing the 2. Jennings may have been uncomfortable playing for a euro team whereas Rubio was not.
byrdrock 2 years ago
You forget though: usually, "rookie of the year" is on a winning team, so if Tyreke Evans does play well but has little help (which could result in a losing record), he may be overlooked. They usually choose the rookie who plays well, but who's also on a winning team, which is sometimes unfair considering that ROY should be based on who's the better rookie in terms of skill, teamplay, contributions, etc. rather than record like the MVP. There have been a few exceptions though...
SmoothMM 2 years ago
rubio is much better than jennings
nyeko9 2 years ago 2
JENNINGS 55 points!!!!!!!!!!
peacock217 2 years ago
@nyeko9 hahhaa w/e
espanarincon 1 year ago
1. Can North Carolina's Ty Lawson be a good half-court point guard?
While I was at the USA Basketball trials in Colorado Springs, Colo., last week, I asked one NBA scout, "Other than his height [just over 6 feet in shoes], why is Ty Lawson so rarely mentioned as a lottery pick?" The scout's feeling was that plenty of teams looked at Lawson as too much of a product of a transition system, and a weak defender.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
The weak-defense part is legitimate -- see what Jeff Teague did to him at Wake Forest on Jan. 11 -- but to label him as a point guard who's only good in transition is inaccurate. Lawson is devastating on the break -- 37.91 percent of his offense came in transition, according to Synergy Sports' scouting database, and at 1.21 points per possession (PPP) on the break, he's the most efficient of any first-round point guard in that regard.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
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dldowell1122 2 years ago
But what happens when we remove Lawson's transition possessions from the equation and look only at half-court situations? Using Synergy's possession-by-possession logs from 2008-09 games, I compared the first-round college point guards' PPP in 1-on-1 situations, shots out of pick-and-rolls, passes out of pick-and-rolls and spot-up shots, and put them in the chart below.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
The numbers indicate that Lawson is the total package: His 1.19 PPP off of pick-and-rolls is better than any other point (save UCLA's Jrue Holiday, whom I've asterisked because he had only 19 pick-and-rolls logged all season, compared to Lawson's 96). Lawson's 1.12 PPP on passes out of pick-and-rolls ranks first among this point guard class, too.
He's also the best spot-up shooter of the group, at 1.20 PPP, even better than Stephen Curry at 1.19 PPP --
dldowell1122 2 years ago
what? lmao stephen curry is the best shooter in this draft trust me. points per posession do not indicate that. considering that curry had double/triples coming his way while lawson got open baskets due to people doubling hansborough, it indicates that curry got 1.19 ppp vs better wing defenders and multiple wing defenders. lawson got 1.2 ppp vs point guard defenders who normally arent great in college or with wide open shots. curry is the best shooter in this draft bar none.
MrJeckel 2 years ago
Hey DUmbazz Curry played againts shit opponents too while Lawson was player of the year in the 2nd toughest conference.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
lmao sorry but the 2 guards in curry's conference were a MUCH TOUGHER CHALLENGE defensively than the 1 guards in nc's conference especially when the defenses were usually geared to hansborough. curry>>>>>>>>>>>hansborough no contest.
MrJeckel 2 years ago
LOL U cant name 2 2 guards in curry conference so how would you know. How many of those guys who played againts Curry will be in the NBA? I know none while Ty lawson played againts 4 ACC AKA PG. Teague ,Tyrese Rice, Greivis Vasquez, Jack Mclinton.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
No one was a better decision-maker than Lawson, either: His 3.48-to-1 assist-to-turnover ratio was more than three times better than Evans' or Teague's. I understand the reasoning in drafting athletes such as Evans or Holiday based on potential, but there's a real possibility that Lawson might end up being the best pure floor general to emerge from this draft.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
nope. i have seen many players with great asst/t.o ratios like jose calderon and brevin knight. they however did not have the skill/talent to be the best in their class. thats whats gonna happen with lawson. the good thing is lawson now has billups & anthony carter, 2 good vet guards, to teach him the ropes.
MrJeckel 2 years ago
rubio is gona get all the american poonani he can get...
Charlie100 2 years ago
Jennings is going to be mighty embarrassed if in 5 years, Rubio has developed into the Pistol Pete of his era, while he himself is struggling to adjust. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm just pointing out how that would haunt him later in his career.
Huesos138 2 years ago
... jennings avg 5.5 ppg in his first year in europe with limited minutes. rubio avg 10ppg in 22 minutes with a team that had more than one nba prospect and a team that he was familiar with for a long time... considering that jason williams was also hyped to be a pistol pete, i dont think much about rubio. if rubio is a bust i wouldnt be surprised one bit.
MrJeckel 2 years ago 2
lol Jennings is like psh he overrated nigga im the best mayn aint no rubio baja grills here
SonicBoom91 2 years ago 2
Rubio, Jennings, Curry all overrated. Ty Lawson will be the best PG in this Class. Dont let the height fool you he will be a 10 10 guy night in and night out in the NBA. How tall is Chris paul and Lawson has the body build of a chuancy Billups.
dldowell1122 2 years ago
pfft c-mon chris paul is a totally unique point guard man lawson is nowhere near his skillset not even college. chris paul was an ASSASIN in college trust me if he doesnt foul out of their last tournament game they advance. lawson had a powerhouse team of course hes gonna play well. the best pg in this draft class is not lawson it is tyreke evans. str8 and simple evans is a better player.
MrJeckel 2 years ago
you can make the same case for carolina. You can say it was a powerhouse, but what was the only reason people weren't picking them to go all the way? They feared lawson wasnt one hundred percent. You could have everyone on the team but lawson was the engine that made it work. I hate how you make it seem as if he cant be near paul. He has just as good handles, on the college level made the right decisions jus like paul. Paul has an edge in half court. Lawson is the best true PG in draft.
darkchocolate132 2 years ago
I feel maybe teague is would make a run for best PG also. He is in the same position as Paul. Dont know how he would do in ATL tho. Johnson would handle the ball alot so who knows.
darkchocolate132 2 years ago
Brandon Jennings has the most potential but he has probably the most work to do. It's hard to discern as to whether or not he has the will to take his game to the next level. There have been allot of talented PG's in the past that just dosed off. It's up to Brandon as to how good he gets.
GoGoGomy 2 years ago
lawson??? shut that shit up..he hasnt done shit in workouts
texasman12 2 years ago 2