@boxingboycow Uhh huh yeah... your county is already something its not supposed to be, yet you're not up in arms shooting, so on top of being a pussy you also exploit the fact that you're full of shit. Good job tough guy.
@boxingboycow You need to take your meds and settle down, democracy and socialism is not even close to the same thing. If you bothered to learn what socialism is, its when the government allocates money, labor, however they deem so. Democracy is a decision of the people. Here me declare a profound statement for you: "Life is one step away from death" Sort of true but not really, again two different things.
Democracy: a government of the masses. Authority derived thru mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in Mobacracy. Attitude toward property is communist - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion. prejudice and impulse without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
@kyeot Like I said if a federal Initiative is put in place I start shooting to uphold my oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
@boxingboycow You can't defend something the republic is dismantling. Stay your course and you probably wont be able to own a gun in a few years. Keep idolizing the cooperate representatives you sheep.
@kyeot Put the NI4D in place and we wont own a gun then fool. Who do you think the mob rule will be controled by? The elietist left, the people with the money to control it. You really are blinded by your own ignorance. I do NOT support any prograssive bullshit that wants to change America and that includes the bullshit that has been happening since 1913. Educate yourself. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY
@kyeot If you dont understand NI4D is the same progressive bullshit that gave us the Federal Reserve, Commoditites Act, Patriot Act, Obama Care, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid. Bullshit legislation and antics that have disavowed the Constitution. You dumbshits keep pushing your un-American ways on the American people you will start a war!!
@boxingboycow I am not swayed by your bullshit, you just throw out lies and generalizations of your fears. Frankly its quite pathetic. You sir are the perfect example of an uncle tom who has been whipped into fear by your masters. All the ni4d is gives power to the people to be apart of the government once again. That's it, you too afraid of that, go hide in your mamas basement waiting for marshal law.
@kyeot Lies and generalizations? What have I lied about? An uncle tom? Oh I see you are a white hating fear monger who hates America because some race was harmed by people 150 years ago, get over it idiot. If you are so stupid that you can not see the obvious of what NI4D and a true Democracy do to the average American, then you need removed from our gene pool. Simply put you're an idiot for falling for more progressive bullshit.
@kyeot I am trying to do the right thing btw jackass, by keeping our constitution in tact and allowing the power to revert to the states through the people the way it was designed, as for marshal law bring it on I will be happy to dust blue hats and progressives.
@kyeot OH one more thing before I go to bed to get and go to work to pay taxes for POS's like yourself to get your free entitlements, if you hate America so much and the freedom the Constitution grants to the individual, maybe you need to move to Europe where enjoy people who want to follow the mob.
@boxingboycow Yeah right I'm sure you assume you have a job just as you assume everything else, just because you say shit doesn't make it true. You talk of education yet you're one of biggest retards I've ever come across. I'm American no matter how much you wish me to think otherwise. Americans have balls, Americans stand for what they believe in. You are a puppet, regurgitate what you here, spout bullshit generalizations, go move to a dictatorship, you are an embarrassment to Americans.
@kyeot lol I assume I have a job? No dipshit I know I have a job.
What have you ever done for your country fella? Mind your fucking tone your telling one of the few who stood and served his country that he has no balls. AGAIN what have I lied about? I ask you this yet one more time back up your bullshit with a fact ONCE!! You're telling me to leave when I want to correct America to it's founding not change it? GIVE ME ONE FACT FAGGOT
@boxingboycow Simple, you assume I have no job, and I assume the same about you, next thing you'll tell me is that your a fkn astronaut rocket scientist cowboy, and by your words I should believe it? Serious guy go fk yourself. Honestly I fail how you served this country in any shape or form, you seem like fkn muppet who is bent on America becoming a Polyarchy. I've done more for this country than you'll ever realize and or admit. Get the hell out of my country!
@kyeot Listen mother fucker keep talking your shit with the computer infront of you protecting you. I served my country by ways of the US Army fella, along with my brother and a person (with documented proof) of my family in each War listed here, .
@kyeot Frech Indian, Us Revolution, War of 1812, Texas War of Independance, Civl War (both sides) WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1, and myself in Operation Iraqi Freedom. All these ties were linked to my immediate family, We have been here since 1698 get the fuck out of MY country
@kyeot No son I am no astronaut, Now I am a simple Coal miner, living my life, but with people like you trying to change my country into something it has never been and was preached against by our founders, well lol I just might throw on my webbing again and get back to defending the Constitution. Because giving 51% the power to take the rights of 49% is just reason to start shooting.
We voted in Milwaukee. The people voted. Overwhelmingly passed an ordinance. But business stepped in and had a judge strike it with an injunction. Oh well.
but Koby, the National Initiative uses the wording of the constitution (We the people...do ordain) to say that people gave the government power and only the people may take it back. This law requires 50million votes, but then, using that logic, it would become law. If 50m Americans stood up and voted for it, in a form of non-violent revolution, and took back power, what politician would dare challenge it?
National ballot initiatives? It's a great idea, but I believe it'll require a Constitutional Amendment to allow it (3/4 of the States must ratify a Constitutional Amendment in order for it to become Constitutional law). I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but Mike Gravel is a very appealing candidate on the Dem side. I just wish the DEM machine would stop trying to shut him down...
The fact is, Antifed, is that if the "uneducated apathetic morons" are ever going to become mature, wise, and educated, you have to let them take responsibility, such as lawmaking, so that they can learn and grow. That is how children become adults. And "those morons" can improve upon mistakes they make since the laws they passed affects them.
It doesn't really matter what you idiots think anyway. Gravel supporters don't do anything but flap their lips. I have yet to see any of you do anything else.
truthout911 - You're one of those no-plane fruit loops, aren't ya? lol You probably believe in the reptilians too.
Its not what I think, its a fact, go read it, provided that you can. But yet I see you dont bother with facts, just fanstacy land anarchy ideology. Anti- I know you are a Paul Freak that shoots dope and wants to get laid all the time.
How has it brought us slavery? It is uneducated, apathetic morons, coupled with opportunistic sociopaths that has brought us slavery, not our system of government. Socialism isn't the answer.
Libertarian principles have never worked. They only work for the elites. Im tired of uneducated 20somethings with no sense of history trying to tell everyone else about philosphy.
Its not mob rule, its a plan that stems from the consitution itself, its sad most consitutionalists dont reconize it. It uses the American People as a check and balance, which is something highly needed in this stalemate of "Corprate intrest Government"
Mob Rule? We have a representative government, a republic, not a democracy. Gravel is wrong to think this plan will resolve problems, it will create them.
If you don't understand the type of government we have and why we have it, I suggest you study up.
If you think that the candidate that you choose will be able to make a difference, you are wrong. Without the support of Congress, it doesn't matter who is the President, they will be a lame duck. The National Initiative is the ONLY way that WE THE PEOPLE will be able to take the country back. I really don't care who you support or vote for, it truly doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Gravel provides all of us with the solution.
mAAAAAAAAn where'd you go?
oldhacks 11 months ago
@boxingboycow Uhh huh yeah... your county is already something its not supposed to be, yet you're not up in arms shooting, so on top of being a pussy you also exploit the fact that you're full of shit. Good job tough guy.
kyeot 1 year ago
This is bullshit, as Karl Marx said "True Democracy is one short step away from Socialism"
It has never worked in the past learn from history. It also changes the face of America and disavows the Constitution!
If this gets put into place I start shooting instantly to defend my country!
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@boxingboycow You need to take your meds and settle down, democracy and socialism is not even close to the same thing. If you bothered to learn what socialism is, its when the government allocates money, labor, however they deem so. Democracy is a decision of the people. Here me declare a profound statement for you: "Life is one step away from death" Sort of true but not really, again two different things.
kyeot 1 year ago
@kyeot you need an education!
Democracy: a government of the masses. Authority derived thru mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in Mobacracy. Attitude toward property is communist - negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion. prejudice and impulse without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demogogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot Like I said if a federal Initiative is put in place I start shooting to uphold my oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@boxingboycow You can't defend something the republic is dismantling. Stay your course and you probably wont be able to own a gun in a few years. Keep idolizing the cooperate representatives you sheep.
kyeot 1 year ago
@kyeot Put the NI4D in place and we wont own a gun then fool. Who do you think the mob rule will be controled by? The elietist left, the people with the money to control it. You really are blinded by your own ignorance. I do NOT support any prograssive bullshit that wants to change America and that includes the bullshit that has been happening since 1913. Educate yourself. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot If you dont understand NI4D is the same progressive bullshit that gave us the Federal Reserve, Commoditites Act, Patriot Act, Obama Care, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid. Bullshit legislation and antics that have disavowed the Constitution. You dumbshits keep pushing your un-American ways on the American people you will start a war!!
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@boxingboycow I am not swayed by your bullshit, you just throw out lies and generalizations of your fears. Frankly its quite pathetic. You sir are the perfect example of an uncle tom who has been whipped into fear by your masters. All the ni4d is gives power to the people to be apart of the government once again. That's it, you too afraid of that, go hide in your mamas basement waiting for marshal law.
kyeot 1 year ago
@kyeot Lies and generalizations? What have I lied about? An uncle tom? Oh I see you are a white hating fear monger who hates America because some race was harmed by people 150 years ago, get over it idiot. If you are so stupid that you can not see the obvious of what NI4D and a true Democracy do to the average American, then you need removed from our gene pool. Simply put you're an idiot for falling for more progressive bullshit.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot Thanks for proving to me that you are nothing different than todays democrat.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot BTW if you knew the slightest thing about liberty and freedom you would hate NI4D
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot I am trying to do the right thing btw jackass, by keeping our constitution in tact and allowing the power to revert to the states through the people the way it was designed, as for marshal law bring it on I will be happy to dust blue hats and progressives.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot OH one more thing before I go to bed to get and go to work to pay taxes for POS's like yourself to get your free entitlements, if you hate America so much and the freedom the Constitution grants to the individual, maybe you need to move to Europe where enjoy people who want to follow the mob.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@boxingboycow Yeah right I'm sure you assume you have a job just as you assume everything else, just because you say shit doesn't make it true. You talk of education yet you're one of biggest retards I've ever come across. I'm American no matter how much you wish me to think otherwise. Americans have balls, Americans stand for what they believe in. You are a puppet, regurgitate what you here, spout bullshit generalizations, go move to a dictatorship, you are an embarrassment to Americans.
kyeot 1 year ago
@kyeot lol I assume I have a job? No dipshit I know I have a job.
What have you ever done for your country fella? Mind your fucking tone your telling one of the few who stood and served his country that he has no balls. AGAIN what have I lied about? I ask you this yet one more time back up your bullshit with a fact ONCE!! You're telling me to leave when I want to correct America to it's founding not change it? GIVE ME ONE FACT FAGGOT
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@boxingboycow Simple, you assume I have no job, and I assume the same about you, next thing you'll tell me is that your a fkn astronaut rocket scientist cowboy, and by your words I should believe it? Serious guy go fk yourself. Honestly I fail how you served this country in any shape or form, you seem like fkn muppet who is bent on America becoming a Polyarchy. I've done more for this country than you'll ever realize and or admit. Get the hell out of my country!
kyeot 1 year ago
@kyeot Listen mother fucker keep talking your shit with the computer infront of you protecting you. I served my country by ways of the US Army fella, along with my brother and a person (with documented proof) of my family in each War listed here, .
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot Frech Indian, Us Revolution, War of 1812, Texas War of Independance, Civl War (both sides) WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War 1, and myself in Operation Iraqi Freedom. All these ties were linked to my immediate family, We have been here since 1698 get the fuck out of MY country
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot No son I am no astronaut, Now I am a simple Coal miner, living my life, but with people like you trying to change my country into something it has never been and was preached against by our founders, well lol I just might throw on my webbing again and get back to defending the Constitution. Because giving 51% the power to take the rights of 49% is just reason to start shooting.
boxingboycow 1 year ago
@kyeot lol wow I find it funny how easily you prograssives are swayed with lies. Democracy is exactly what gave Adolf Hitler his power fool. MOB RULE
boxingboycow 1 year ago
you misspelled the word "responsibility" in the info.
TheDastardlyDildo 2 years ago
We voted in Milwaukee. The people voted. Overwhelmingly passed an ordinance. But business stepped in and had a judge strike it with an injunction. Oh well.
tenagliac 3 years ago
great video. Make more ni4d videos. tons more. make it unavoidable on youtube
oldhacks 4 years ago 4
awesome MAKE MORE ni4d videos! make a hundred!
oldhacks 4 years ago 4
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uterfan 4 years ago 4
but Koby, the National Initiative uses the wording of the constitution (We the people...do ordain) to say that people gave the government power and only the people may take it back. This law requires 50million votes, but then, using that logic, it would become law. If 50m Americans stood up and voted for it, in a form of non-violent revolution, and took back power, what politician would dare challenge it?
moikl 4 years ago
National ballot initiatives? It's a great idea, but I believe it'll require a Constitutional Amendment to allow it (3/4 of the States must ratify a Constitutional Amendment in order for it to become Constitutional law). I'm a Ron Paul supporter, but Mike Gravel is a very appealing candidate on the Dem side. I just wish the DEM machine would stop trying to shut him down...
KobyBrandt 4 years ago
as you know, he just joined the Libertarian party which is a step in the right direction for AmeriCANs who are trying to fix the broken system.
by the way Koby, the youTube youChoose page still has only the three dwiesels up there. what a sham and what a shame!
Go Mike!
elichans 3 years ago
The fact is, Antifed, is that if the "uneducated apathetic morons" are ever going to become mature, wise, and educated, you have to let them take responsibility, such as lawmaking, so that they can learn and grow. That is how children become adults. And "those morons" can improve upon mistakes they make since the laws they passed affects them.
Aerolight1 4 years ago
It doesn't really matter what you idiots think anyway. Gravel supporters don't do anything but flap their lips. I have yet to see any of you do anything else.
truthout911 - You're one of those no-plane fruit loops, aren't ya? lol You probably believe in the reptilians too.
AntiFed1791 4 years ago
Its not what I think, its a fact, go read it, provided that you can. But yet I see you dont bother with facts, just fanstacy land anarchy ideology. Anti- I know you are a Paul Freak that shoots dope and wants to get laid all the time.
truthout911 4 years ago
Well Antifed your so called republic brought you slavery. Why are you so stuck on something that has proven itself not to work.
truthout911 4 years ago
How has it brought us slavery? It is uneducated, apathetic morons, coupled with opportunistic sociopaths that has brought us slavery, not our system of government. Socialism isn't the answer.
AntiFed1791 4 years ago
Why dont you try reading the const. it was written in it and it had to be amended out by the 13th and 14th amendments.
truthout911 4 years ago
Libertarian principles have never worked. They only work for the elites. Im tired of uneducated 20somethings with no sense of history trying to tell everyone else about philosphy.
truthout911 4 years ago
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.
Libertarianism is what made America. You are a cocky sob. I'll give you that but, it is you who is uneducated.
AntiFed1791 4 years ago
Oh really, It didnt get us out of the depression did it. Or the recession of the late 1800's .
truthout911 4 years ago
Its not mob rule, its a plan that stems from the consitution itself, its sad most consitutionalists dont reconize it. It uses the American People as a check and balance, which is something highly needed in this stalemate of "Corprate intrest Government"
kyeot 4 years ago
Mob Rule? We have a representative government, a republic, not a democracy. Gravel is wrong to think this plan will resolve problems, it will create them.
If you don't understand the type of government we have and why we have it, I suggest you study up.
AntiFed1791 4 years ago
If you think that the candidate that you choose will be able to make a difference, you are wrong. Without the support of Congress, it doesn't matter who is the President, they will be a lame duck. The National Initiative is the ONLY way that WE THE PEOPLE will be able to take the country back. I really don't care who you support or vote for, it truly doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Gravel provides all of us with the solution.
smh2224 4 years ago 2