i still fail to see why this is an argument. the pale face is circling the globe with space probes. and we arguing over a non equation? .....wow! this chicken or the egg nonsense just waste energy. when we could be figuring out how to desalinated water or something else useful.
I try to tell brothers all the time to put down their male egos and uplift these sisters and to the sisters respect yourslef because you made US and if you don't respect yourself how can we respect you (for the ones who have male ego problems because i'm into the knowledge and i respect women anyway). We know that the Goddess made the God and you can't sit on the throne unless you come through the mother. BLACK POWER TO ALL MY FAM.
MOTHER NATURE, LIFE IS A BITCH;FUCK DA WORLD AND WE ALL CAME FROM A MOTHERS WOMB SOUNDS LIKE A GODDESS 2 ME SHITT I GOT KIDS AND ALL I DID WAS PLANT DA SEED MOTHER NATURE DID THE REST
people can debate and have a wealth of knowledge in religions and the history and context from where those religions came from all they want, but does not amount to being abundant with spiritual wisdom, and that is something which this conference debate was void of.
This is a trip.Brothas can't embrace never.It always has to be some separation in thoughts.Its ok to disagree with one another.But these debates are to the point where NOI members become enemys with people who disagree with their notions.It seems like they never want to here other scientific facts or maybe opinions.To may chiefs in my opinion when it comes to the role of the black man.Everybody wanna run things.
@servantofalla No its not because the black woman is not God and the ancient egyptians or no other great civilization taught that.Men built and ruled all those civilizations and were not bowing down and worshiping their women.
people ,evolve, trees evolve, yall think the trees are the same now as they were from the beginning of time?? of course we go thru different aspects of existence!! black people can get spirituality form a lot of things, because we were designed that way, there is no 1 way there are many ways, does an ant always walk the same trail??? this is a waste of time. WILLIE LYNCH PERSONIFIED, move forward is the thing. this is why i refuse to claim a title, moor islam or anything else,
y'all niggaz need to realized that african birth out two power dynasty that's EGYPT AND ISLAM. y'all niggaz need to stop feeding to this white nigga plans to have us going to war with one another with islam is not and egypt is not.let's us come together is one.........................
@Asekyima Islam is the nature of the Blackman/woman, It was only necessary to put it on paper to help civilized the rest of the world with a perfect religion of faith in peace. The true Islam is Truth itself which was hidden until the 12/13th imam the Mahdi to give us to true meaning of what is written in the books given to the people. We say that, that person is Master Fard Muhammad and Allah appeared in His person for the Lost found here in the spiritual wilderness of North America.
@Asekyima I have. Although Wesley Muhammad has already debunked that book and revealed much of the fallacies that it contains, including the fact the Prophet Muhammad was a black man. There is a DVD called 'The end of Ghetto Scholarship' by Dr Wesley Muhammad that goes in depth on the short sighted research that Walter William's book contains.
@Asekyima Untrue. The original arabs are black people, and they worshipped Allah centuries before the birth of Prophet Muhammad. Prophet Muhammad was of the black Quarysh tribe and was himself a black al'ariba arab, A BLACK MAN. Also in old times, Arabia was considered part of the African continent. Plate tectonics shifted and created the split that is the Red Sea that we see today.
DEATH TO THE NEGRO?WTF DOES THAT MEAN?ALSO EGYPT WAS A BRANCH OFF THE SUDANESE TREE.A TREE CANNOT GROW WITHOUT ROOTS.AND THE BLACK WOMAN IS A GOD.MAN DID NOT BIRTH ME.WE BIRTHED YOU.STOP GETTING IT TWISTED.W/O ME YOU AND EVERY ONE ELSE ON THIS PLANET WILL CEASE TO EXIST..HTP!
@universalconnections The black woman gets pregnant from the black man so without him you dont give birth.Your father and mother made you.In your body are 46 chromosomes not 23.
Peace!! I thought Islam was just Arabic language meaning in english Submission to the Will of Allah, so whatever language was by the people before then if you were a servant or submitted to Allah, in Arabic language you would be called Muslim!! From the beginning it was Monotheism and the last seal brought it back to Monotheism!! I truly didn't get the science here!! Peace!!
i practice a west AFRIKAN based religion.we have babalorisas and iyalorisas.godfathers and godMOTHERS in yoruba.there are also female dieties,like,OSHUN,YEMEYA and OYA.i salute them with respect no differently than the male ones.pray to whomever you wish.that's your choice.however,if you believe that you are a God and there's no female Gods,then you are not practicing anything AFRIKAN......
yeah. read kenneth grants books cults of the shadow and nightside of eden. the goddess was around for thousands and thousands of years before the god. they did not understand for a long time that the male was instrumental in birth. it was knowledge not known for a very long time. goddess worship was embodied in sex. this is why we multiply ourselves so much. subconsciously toward the goddess! this all happened in EGYPT/KEMET. this is an important note.
and that book was written by a white man, aleister crowleys student. the "scary" white people are just trying to be us. we need everything of black origin, whether the crackers got it or not. shit, he stole it from us anyway! hah.
I can't understand for the life of me, if 5% nation don't live an Islamic life, why in the hell do yall use, Allah, Islam in your lessons? Degree 39 yall need to change it, because it say "I FAST AND PRAY ALLAH". Oh yeah I know the lessons,, yall need to revamp the lessons and keep Islam out of it, because Allah don't mean Arm Leg Leg Arm Head, that's a EUROPEAN acronym and Allah in Arabic which is before English isn't an acronym! Ignorance is bliss!
Peace. It's because the lessons are esoteric and as such needs to be left as is. There is a format that it takes to understand the lessons. Remember there is no leader so in order to deal with equality everyone has to get it the same. Also Allah means the God . Who says we can't apply an acronym it? Don't speak on what you don't understand. If you want to build hit me up and we can build.
Peace TP, Esoteric? The muslims who were Sufic went into esoteric, so it's nothing new to me. Allah doesn't mean just "THE GOD", it's an Arabic word so it's correct form one must use, your definition is in a box and is limited. See if you knew Arabic you would know Allah is "THE SECRET ONE, THE HIDDEN ONE, THE STRONE ONE, THE CREATOR, etc. That's the Caucasian man's term who you call the devil. It's more than that. Dude I been with the lessons since 79 what are you talking about?
WOW!!! And you still don't know shit and that's why the GODS ran your ass away from them? You had knowledge since "79 and you're bragging about that shit, Man I wouldn't tell no one because you lack understanding which makes you sound like an idiot. Allah means: One who creates something from nothing.... the Life-Giver! And it's obvious that Allah's Teachings didn't give you any life whatsoever, which makes you baffling fool who knows nothing, b.u.t ignorance.
LOL You're so ignorant, I never joined the 5% nation, why would I? LOL I am a Muslim, I think you need to chill! I know who Allah is, and it's not a man!
You shouldn't speak on things you don't know. First of all if Allah is spelt in Arabic there is no way on earth you can make it an acronym, Arabic don't deal with acronyms. Like Islam does not mean "I SELF LORD AND MASTER". Islam comes from the word Salaam which Salaam comes from a tri-literal root consonet "SLM=SIN LAM MIM" So how in the hell do you get "I SELF LORD AND MASTER"? You see? Arabic in it's pure form can't really be translated in English, da bastard language.
What does English is a bastard language really mean?If you really understood that statement you wouldn't make this silly argument. What does esoteric mean? If you understood that then you would understand how it could use Arm Leg leg arm head. Either way I'm Allah. Whether you use it's true definition or our esoteric brake down.
W.T.F are you talking about? We put things in a simple and plain form to where the 85% can understand what's being said to them. Were not Muslims and we don't speak Arabic neither so why would I teach them something other than what their familiar with? We speak English so that's w.t.f I'm going to teach them in until they seek that on their own. You're just upset because you have no magnetic or anyone whose attracted to your bullshit, because you lack that divine magnetism. Damn fool!!!
Because ALLAH is GOD, that's why. And how is Arm-Leg-Leg-Arm-Head an European acronym? You're just running your mouth and not knowing w.t.f you're talking about, because you have no sense of direction nor purpose whatsoever. You need to study them Lessons a little more harder because you sound like an idiot right now. rahim4411 and 4+4+1+1=10 which is apparent that you have no Knowledge within your Cipher, due to you eating the Wrong Foods makes you an ignorant fool!!!
Sure Kemet predates Islam. The Quran often refers to Um-Al-Kitab(mother book of Torah, Injeel and Quran) which is most likely the Kemeten writings. However, Quran states it is perfected and for the people of the earth if they believe. The current Arabs claim universal which is the sunnah's principal protocol. One can see that the African is the most devoted and best at keeping the faith in any persuasion. Even Muhammad ibn Abdullah stated that the Ethiopian is the best example of the faith.
Islam, the definition and concept predates Kemet. There were skulls found in Tanzania, I bet they had no inkling of Kemetain knowledge and believed in the concept of One Creator and had nothing to do with Kemet for Kemet the land was under water at one time, being created by Allah for thousands of years. Mizrian came up out of Kush and went to the new land Kemet! Which was mixed with allies beliefs also, so Kemet beliefs are mixed! Zulus by concept and def practice Islam! Aboriginal also!
Who taught you-Tehuti? Your shit is so weak and mythological that I feel like I'm listening to an old Malachi Zyork lecture. Now you're talking some Jurassic Park bullshit talking about some Land of the Lost bullshit!!!
these debate are helping our people my ass!!!! we going to still be in debate next year! and the year after next! because some of us make good money off these so-called debates HINT HINT!!!!
The issue is neither party proved there point. Dr. Muhammad didn't win the debate. It was a waste of time. Dr. Muhammad battled an amateur and now amateurs think something actually went down. Just because the name Allah existed prior to muhammad, doesn't mean ISLAM as a religious, cultural system existed prior to muhammad. There was NO evidence presented that ISLAM was a religion in Africa prior to muhammad. Just because I say aqua in a sentence doesn't mean I speak spanish. The same for Allah.
I don't know man...especially since "Islam" in itself can be seen as "peace"....as a Muslim is one who submits to the One God....how can you say that it didn't exist before Muhammad?...even Muslims would probably disagree with that considering that they call the prophets Abraham, Noah, Moses, and Jesus Muslims as well....at the end of the day it's origins are debatable.
Titles mean nothing. We're talking about a system of belief. I could say Cab Calloway was a rapper because he "rapped" in some of his songs. That doesn't make him a hip hop mc. The CULTURE of hip hop started after Calloway. Islam, as a religious system did not start before the prophet Muhammad and Wesley didn't prove that it did. Jesus was a muslim by technicality by your definition. He didn't belong to a religious tradition called Islam.
as islam is based on 5 principles how is that possible before mohammad? what were they saying in there prayers as he is mentioined in everyone, mecca was full of idopls? so no hajj, no five prayers etc i could list hundreds of principles of islam as called that would be impossible with out mohammad including the quran itself - islam with no quran? how? just saying - this is not an attack peace
Belief in Allah is before Muhammad. Belief in prayer is before Muhammad. Belief in charity is before Muhammad. Obviously you can't believe in Quran before it arrives. Please list the other hundreds of principles.
oh come on brother which Bukari would you like me to list you can start with any volume - plus i dont subscribe to belief my mind is free i dont neet to there are 12 animals mentioned in the quran non of which exist on this planet i suppose someone can prove this Taklihuma is the larget one most muslims no nothing of the this becauser the dont read the quran they get told about its content i can qoute the arabic to not the revised yousef ali english which most have its as bad as a KJV bible
You are going to list Hadith??? Actually, Quran condemns Hadith truth be told. You better come with something else. I'm glad you can quote Quran in Arabic. That is commendable. And I sincerely mean that. But none of what you said goes against Dr. Diop's assertion. Now I AM interested in learning of this Taklihuma and the other animals. You ever think Quran is speaking also about the Spirit world?
I am a muslim and I am not of NOI, but what in the world are you talking about? Bukari? YOu think I ma believe in Bukari when he said Muhammad is white when it's been proven Arabs are African and dark? I have references and now I have a new one from Dr. Wesley! sheikh Diop, Dr. Sertima, and Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq Al Mansour is a bad brother and I don't think you're on that level basically seeing the way your speaking! Muhammad pbuh would of never approved of the hadith !
if you read me right you would have seen that i was not santioning Bukhari iam well aware of the writtings of Al Jahiz and if you read it in french you would really understand what he wrote but i know you only read english - surah Al Asr is about Asar that whole surah (if you understand Arabic) is about Asar when you finished prasing what ever man you want to praise dont forget to call upon Amen Ra to seal your prayers that was the key to wake you up my god dose not write books i do
I'm well aware of Asar and Amen. However, can you absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt prove that they come from Kemet? Are you certain they didn't come TO Kemet? There are other Suras named other things. So?
See there you go telling me what I speak, dude I speak, read and write classical arabic, Old Hebrew-aramaic, into Zulu right now, Some wolof and Yuroba! Please you are killing me with your nonsense! It's not Asar, You fail to realize Kemet wasn't even on the map, they came up out of Kush, go study more then come back. Allah was well known before Muhammad was born, fact his father was named ABDULLLAH! Servant of Allah "- If his name was that then that means Allah existed before Muhammad ! Bam!
One of the best sources of an 9th century writer Al Jahiz who wrote about Muhammad and his family being black Africans, so am I going to trust Bukari who came 250 years after MUhammad or Al Jahiz who is closer to the source? I pick Al Jahiz. He said "They were black as night and magnificent". Also Psychic Trauma by Latif! he drops all the knowledge, we have so many documents on this and Islam being an African belief it's ridiculous!
The name Allah Existed way before Muhammad pbuh was born, then pagan Arabs corrupted it to make money in Mecca at the Kaa'ba. Where the first to bring this in ? Since you unbelievers claim Allah came from Allat, when it didn't. Who had the keys to the Kaa'ba, I want names and dates! Muhamad was born only to restore Islam and Africa back on the map but you cats seem not to realize this! Whether you like it or not, Islam is going to keep growing as the Quran said it would! 1.8 billion strong!
@rahim4411 Brother, We have so many scholars its not even funny. Right now, Islam is the "IS" when Allah said, "BE".History is attractive and best at rewarding our research. Presently, Islam is the winner when the past has failed. 'The winner from debt and the oppression of men', says the Quran. Society has the brothers in debt with interest rates which is oppression and slavery. The Fall of America and still many can not see that Islam is that 'ARK' that should be boarded in this dreadful day.
Yes, Muhammad pbuh as record said that "Riba" Usury is prohibited. Now you see the damage it does with interest and usury, now the people fill it. So Muhammad pbuh was RIGHT AND THAT RIGHT THERE PROVES HE'S A PROPHET! The people don't want to listen, this is what happens. Islam is still growing and these psuedo beliefs are falling, just look at the Sanaater, Seti, and Tahuti episodes, it's like a joke!
And you are too, plus we didn't have to watch a boring ass video either. All you had to do was open your mouth and we seen how confused and ignorant you are. You're caught up in suspended animation because your Mindstate is so feeble and fragile, to the point that you don't even believe the shit that comes out your own damn mouth. Rahim4411 is on the same wavelength as Tehuti, Sanaater and Seti.... which means he has no light whatsoever. You're dim as a 25 watt lightbulb! Your shit is dull!!!
Go and do some research, your pseudo belief is out of this world. You don't even know when Kush was alive they accepted other beliefs into thier system and Kemet comes out of Kush, so guess what you got a mixture of pagan beliefs, why you think Ankhenaten said to stop worshipping Idols? He was the only one I respect had sense enuff not to do that and believe in one Creator.! Kemetans were pagan worshippers bowing down to idols THEY MADE THEMSELVES! How do you do that?
Even though those RBG cats got Bombed and destroyed, the messed up thing is they will still leave from this debate saying "Islam is not a Black African religion."
The sad thing is, even though this was a good debate to some it was pointless!
I wasn't at the debate, but from the clips I saw of Bro Natural Tahuti he mentioned that he didn't have enough evidence/documents to back up his argument. What?! In a debate it is a MUST that you re-search your stance meticuously and bring the evidence to the table for others to see.That's like going into a battle without the proper artillery.
Well, the War Captain and his General (who was by his side the entire time & said he was on the phone with Tahuti 2 hrs a day prepping him) both showed why they are youtube officials. Who gave them those ranks? Whoever gave them those ranks needs to be brought up front and center and court martialed.
AA Rashid spoke wisdom at the 3:00 mark. Most of the RBG cats are listening to Seti tell them what's good. Most of the NOI has been in the game since the late 80's when it was about the book; the source. That's why Tahuti and Seti are chumped. They don't give accurate info of their sources, and then lie about their sources. Dr. Muhammad said, even if you disagree with his info, you can at least go check his sources. Why can't we do that with Seti & Tahuti? Because they know they are lying.
Damn its about time somebody knew It started back in the 80's the first RBG Album was in 1989 by brothers who where politically educated by the Uhuru Movement and Spiritually Educated by the AEM while incarcerated so it's a mixture of both
but what does that prove if the supreme being is neither male nor female. Do you ppl really know what the word god really means & its etymological origin?
P.e.a.c.e. - Cuz he know the Black Womb-man iz God. And duke can't speak 4 the entire NGE when we're individuaL Gods in the culture. The Gods in my knowLedge cypher teach daiLy that the Black Womb-man that the OriginaL Black Man wuz born from iz God. and thatz P.e.a.c.e. -
Dude you 7:30. Straight up crazy. If you mean that the black womb-man is divine, just as the black man, I agree with you completely. B.U.T the term God, G.O.D., is a masculine term and inappropriate to use for a feminine principle.Show me how I'm wrong.Let's discuss this.
The black womb-man and black man are twin halves to an aspect of the one divinity/one souL which iz the source. The principLe of polarity, oppositez are identicaL in nature, they only differ in degree. God A.K.a. the All in All covers 360 degrees which the black womb-man is apart of, more specificaLLy tho', to separate the two to be more precise we would say the OriginaL Black Man iz God and the OriginaL Black Womb-Man iz the mother of civilization, Earth, Wiz, and Goddess.
The Black Womb-Man is not a goddess so stop teaching that shit because that's some mythological teaching. Any Male who advocates that fairy tale is only one who worships and submits to the Female as a deity over him. You speaking our (NGE) language and trying to express our divine teachings as if it were yours, b.u.t we (NGE) don't advocate nor promote the Black Woman as being superior to us or over us. She's symbolic to the Moon, the Earth and Wisdom..... and that's that.
Now, as far as so-called mythology is concerned, African "mythology" birthed aLL ideologiez, culturez, and religionz. Reason i say African, cuz that iz where you'LL alwayz find the oldest physical evidence of our ppL. So, to dis-respect that, iz to dis-respect urself.
Look bruh, don't know bout u, b.u.t. i'm not a follower, i'm an individuaL who repz and studiez the culture of the NGE, b.u.t. i'm not a slave to it...
Ur speaking on my comments as if my perception of MaLe and FemaLe iz on some low leveL / low frequency bullshyt. My cypher goez far beyond the lower part of ourselvs, which iz the physicaL flesh vehicLe. I'm dealing with principles, such as the Gods being birthed from the Feminem Principle of the Black Womb of the Universe. You would understand this if you studied various points of info. Like myself, and not make shyt holy and pure. the NGE has room to grow jes' like any other nation.
The MaLe playz his roLe, and the FemaLe playz herz, this ain't got shyt to do with domination. My cypher is 50/50, meaning me and my Queen build 2gether. I don't deaL with the Christian and Islamic teaching of the womb-man being under the thumb of the MaLe. Thatz some paLe man bullshyt, and i hope u ain't on that gobbage. The NGE doesn't have a leader, so who are u to teLL me whut to teach. I deaL with Power/Refinement, so my P.O.V. gets sharpened with new valid information / KnowLedge.
If you really did the 50/50 You wouldn't be called a God and she called an Earth! wouldn't she be a Goddess? slick talk don't move me. The Qur'an states women have rights too, oh but you don't read Qur'an nor read Arabiah which is from our people.
You're truly an illiterate ass individual, for real. The Black Man is God and the Black Woman is the Earth... for God means: Ultimate Reality and Earth means: Cultivable Soil which is only Firm Land, that God uses to reproduce himself over through. One is the Life-Giver and the other is the Receiver and Bearer of that Life-Germ. So how is she a Goddess? You must cannot rise above (6) so you speak bullshit, due to the fact of you lacking the ability to comprehend God within your damn self!!!
Naw, obviousLy u are the one that is mistaken. Learn the science of the Most High - and you'LL overstand why the Black Man iz God. I'LL help u out - the Divine SouL iz the Key - P.e.a.c.e. -
I have the knowledge of the Most High who is Allah, and knowledge of self, "Elimu Al Saban Nufus", do you know what that is? If you want to be a Dog/God be my guess. I guess you don't have the knowledge of words yet claim I have no knowledge of the most high. Most High never said he was God I tell you that. So you're following the precepts and concepts of the European?
LoL. I overstand the whoLe dyslexia bullshyt the Europeans puLLed. B4 u pikked up Allah, u don't think that we used another term to describe the All in All? B.u.t. yea i'm a Dawg, ur speaking with the God. And the Divine SouL manifests reality as we cee it and Live it. the Europeans didn't originate shyt, they simply take something that already exist and either change, contort, or add-on to it. We gave them the KnowLedge and now we are the benificiaries to that which we first gave to them.
To answer ur 1st question, read my commentz above this one. I already spoke on this. Now, I don't have a problem with the Qu'ran or Arabic, b.u.t. whut i do have a problem with is how i've witnessed moslems be-little their women, making sure they understand that they are to be sub-servient to the male. The Black womb-man deserves more than jes' to have rights - we are equaLz in this thang - even tho' we both have roLes - our roLes are equaLLy important, so she deserves that much respect.
Ok, I respect what you said the woman deserves respect. You witness muslim men belittle sistas? Ok, well all my life I have witness MEN who aren't Muslim belittle women, beat them up, cheat on them and the list goes on. Now What's the statistics of non muslim abuse to the ratio of Muslim men abuse of women? See when a man abuse a woman it has nothing to do with their faith, it has something to do with the individual. I don't do that, so why tell me? Women have their roles as you said yep!
The 85% don't even count when it comez their treatment of our ppL. They're liable to do anything at any given time, cuz they don't even have an inklet of who they are i.e. KnowLedge of Self. The connection i saw wuz within the 120 and how the womb-man wuz given limitationz, whiLe the Black Man wuz not. When i witnessed brotherz carrying this ideaL out, i wuz very displeased, b.u.t. they were moslems and not 5 Percenterz.
Bro what in the heck is a moslem? Are you talking about a Muslim? Then you must didn't read Qur'an either because that same connection I have seen in the Qu'ran, stop blaiming and individual and tagging the whole faith. I have seen 5% beat women, have children by women and not EVEN TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN! I live in NYC but I don't blame the whole 5% nation. You can go down in the court house anytime of the week and see them acting up.
Look, i'm not trying to beat up on moslems, i respect their cypher, let'z get that overstood. I jes' have my own personaL individuaL p.o.v. when it comez to dealing with certain aspects of Life and individuaLz.
Again, who are moslems, and we don't hold ciphers, we hold talims.
Well stop making it a Muslim thing then, if you read the Qur'an you would see women have their rights. If a woman was equal to a man either it would be all women on earth or all men on the earth. Do a woman look like a man? Does she have the same strength of a man? Come on dude you gotta get serious.
Ciphers, talims, call it whut u want. And i hope a womb-man isn't looking like a dude. SimpLy put the men protect the famiLy, and the womb-man holds the fort down, B.U.T. the man also has to have the skiLLz to hold the fort down, and the womb-man should have handz, and a .22 now-a-dayz. We ain't playin' no gamez, we know whut time it iz. We have to be prepared frm every angLe, men and womb-man both.
NOW THAT I AGREE WITH YOU 100% HECK YEAH! but you know you have to have a spiritual Afro centric woman who isn't afraid to die and that is hard to come by, sistas to worried about their weave pieces and nails getting broken lol A sista will sell you out faster than anyone I know. They fear death to much.
I overstand whut ur saying, and personaLLy i've met way more conscious brothaz than sistahz, b.u.t. that letz me know that we have alot of work to 2 do to wake our Queenz up. Ryte now we're dealing with many femalez who look at prostitution and stripping as an option and that ain't where it'z at. That showz a serious laccing in spirituality. PersonaLLy, i'm working on the sistahz i know, b.u.t. itz a slow process breaking the speLL. Good Luc to u and urz - We have alot of work 2 do - P.e.a.c.e.
Understood, there are those sistas also, that have good jobs that think they are independent and don't need a man, which are off the path also. They advertise this as a way to get back at African descent men, when they find themselves alone they are asking the question where are all the good men. If you're independent you don't need a man. They can't be taught because they won't listen, face it NOT EVERYONE WILL MAKE IT! WE NEED TO GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS!
You won't be able to save everyone, I don't understand why we think we're going to save everyone, it's not going to happen. Save those that want to be saved and leave those behind that love to waddle in ignorance. !
And i dis-agree with ur statement of it has nothing to do with their faith. When ur Symbolz, God whutever the case may be, doesn't consist of Man, Womb-man and Child then as a maLe ur more likeLy to be-little the womb-man, cuz ur God is based on a MaLe Dominating PrincipLe and has nothing to do with the Feminem aspect of Creation. Now, i don't know how u view Allah, b.u.t. i deaL with Man, Womb-man and Child which makez the cypher complete, thus i respect the ALL in ALL.
Listen when you can stop using the word God, please contact me. You claim I have no knowledge yet you keep using European words. come back when you have the knowledge and can build with me in the original tongue of our people!
If women have roles, then what are they? I am sure it doesn't constitute them trying to be a man. I wanna hear your system of this ROLE THE WOMAN HAS. Because I know their role and my role I wanna hear what you have to say since you brought it up. Peace
And the NGE'z teachingz / KnowLedge / inFo. belong to ALL OriginaL ppL. So, yea they are mine. U remind me of a craccer, trying to claim some info. as if it onLy belongs to certain group of ppL, nigga please. I don't believe the Black Womb-man is superior, i teach that we are equalz. You can't have one without the other, Now, how u luv that. - P.e.a.c.e.
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i still fail to see why this is an argument. the pale face is circling the globe with space probes. and we arguing over a non equation? .....wow! this chicken or the egg nonsense just waste energy. when we could be figuring out how to desalinated water or something else useful.
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I try to tell brothers all the time to put down their male egos and uplift these sisters and to the sisters respect yourslef because you made US and if you don't respect yourself how can we respect you (for the ones who have male ego problems because i'm into the knowledge and i respect women anyway). We know that the Goddess made the God and you can't sit on the throne unless you come through the mother. BLACK POWER TO ALL MY FAM.
lilphat87 3 months ago
MOTHER NATURE, LIFE IS A BITCH;FUCK DA WORLD AND WE ALL CAME FROM A MOTHERS WOMB SOUNDS LIKE A GODDESS 2 ME SHITT I GOT KIDS AND ALL I DID WAS PLANT DA SEED MOTHER NATURE DID THE REST
MrBmike888 8 months ago
@Asekyima : THAT'S TRUE AND LIVING !
horustheavenger1 11 months ago
people can debate and have a wealth of knowledge in religions and the history and context from where those religions came from all they want, but does not amount to being abundant with spiritual wisdom, and that is something which this conference debate was void of.
Metacool416 11 months ago
This is a trip.Brothas can't embrace never.It always has to be some separation in thoughts.Its ok to disagree with one another.But these debates are to the point where NOI members become enemys with people who disagree with their notions.It seems like they never want to here other scientific facts or maybe opinions.To may chiefs in my opinion when it comes to the role of the black man.Everybody wanna run things.
reececup33 1 year ago
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YOU CAN ONLY COME INTO EXISTENCE THRU THE GODDESS
teamgrn 1 year ago
One too many Chiefs
servantofalla 1 year ago
Trying to prove that the black woman is God is like trying to prove that water is wet.
servantofalla 1 year ago
@servantofalla No its not because the black woman is not God and the ancient egyptians or no other great civilization taught that.Men built and ruled all those civilizations and were not bowing down and worshiping their women.
brianbmf 1 year ago
people ,evolve, trees evolve, yall think the trees are the same now as they were from the beginning of time?? of course we go thru different aspects of existence!! black people can get spirituality form a lot of things, because we were designed that way, there is no 1 way there are many ways, does an ant always walk the same trail??? this is a waste of time. WILLIE LYNCH PERSONIFIED, move forward is the thing. this is why i refuse to claim a title, moor islam or anything else,
moemuzikk 1 year ago
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heckler171 1 year ago
y'all niggaz need to realized that african birth out two power dynasty that's EGYPT AND ISLAM. y'all niggaz need to stop feeding to this white nigga plans to have us going to war with one another with islam is not and egypt is not.let's us come together is one.........................
MrShahid1077 1 year ago
@Asekyima Islam is the nature of the Blackman/woman, It was only necessary to put it on paper to help civilized the rest of the world with a perfect religion of faith in peace. The true Islam is Truth itself which was hidden until the 12/13th imam the Mahdi to give us to true meaning of what is written in the books given to the people. We say that, that person is Master Fard Muhammad and Allah appeared in His person for the Lost found here in the spiritual wilderness of North America.
kenwill123 1 year ago
@Asekyima I have. Although Wesley Muhammad has already debunked that book and revealed much of the fallacies that it contains, including the fact the Prophet Muhammad was a black man. There is a DVD called 'The end of Ghetto Scholarship' by Dr Wesley Muhammad that goes in depth on the short sighted research that Walter William's book contains.
RIGHTEOUSDISORDER 1 year ago
@Asekyima Untrue. The original arabs are black people, and they worshipped Allah centuries before the birth of Prophet Muhammad. Prophet Muhammad was of the black Quarysh tribe and was himself a black al'ariba arab, A BLACK MAN. Also in old times, Arabia was considered part of the African continent. Plate tectonics shifted and created the split that is the Red Sea that we see today.
RIGHTEOUSDISORDER 1 year ago
DEATH TO THE NEGRO?WTF DOES THAT MEAN?ALSO EGYPT WAS A BRANCH OFF THE SUDANESE TREE.A TREE CANNOT GROW WITHOUT ROOTS.AND THE BLACK WOMAN IS A GOD.MAN DID NOT BIRTH ME.WE BIRTHED YOU.STOP GETTING IT TWISTED.W/O ME YOU AND EVERY ONE ELSE ON THIS PLANET WILL CEASE TO EXIST..HTP!
universalconnections 1 year ago
@universalconnections The black woman gets pregnant from the black man so without him you dont give birth.Your father and mother made you.In your body are 46 chromosomes not 23.
brianbmf 1 year ago
DEATH TO THE NEGRO SUTEK, FUCK YOU. YOU SHOULD BE SAYING AWAKENING TO THE NEGRO
OfficialBruteForceEv 1 year ago
@OfficialBruteForceEv thank you!
universalconnections 1 year ago
the black mans knowlege all started in egypt???? what you talking about???
silents08 1 year ago
@silents08 i feel the same way people need to step their game up because south africa ancient technology predates any other parts of africa
BamaBoy205SR 1 year ago
Peace!! I thought Islam was just Arabic language meaning in english Submission to the Will of Allah, so whatever language was by the people before then if you were a servant or submitted to Allah, in Arabic language you would be called Muslim!! From the beginning it was Monotheism and the last seal brought it back to Monotheism!! I truly didn't get the science here!! Peace!!
luvwriting1 1 year ago
@luvwriting1 Islam only mean a state of perpetual peace in arabic not submission to anything at all
richbullva 9 months ago
Man Of all religions want to be the top guys,why is that???
They look like military,ha!
black power...do you feel inferior?
white have no need to say that !
Long live woman!
Thank love for woman!
Oh!Wo man:)
TruthFearsNoLiar 1 year ago
complete failure1:56-2:09
retroserval 1 year ago
i practice a west AFRIKAN based religion.we have babalorisas and iyalorisas.godfathers and godMOTHERS in yoruba.there are also female dieties,like,OSHUN,YEMEYA and OYA.i salute them with respect no differently than the male ones.pray to whomever you wish.that's your choice.however,if you believe that you are a God and there's no female Gods,then you are not practicing anything AFRIKAN......
bxlunar 2 years ago 10
yeah. read kenneth grants books cults of the shadow and nightside of eden. the goddess was around for thousands and thousands of years before the god. they did not understand for a long time that the male was instrumental in birth. it was knowledge not known for a very long time. goddess worship was embodied in sex. this is why we multiply ourselves so much. subconsciously toward the goddess! this all happened in EGYPT/KEMET. this is an important note.
hollyhung 2 years ago
and that book was written by a white man, aleister crowleys student. the "scary" white people are just trying to be us. we need everything of black origin, whether the crackers got it or not. shit, he stole it from us anyway! hah.
hollyhung 2 years ago
@bxlunar what you practice is dirty ass santeria
InfoRoom 1 month ago
@InfoRoom DIRTY ASS????HOW IS IT DIRTY???YOU JUST DISRESPECTED OUR ANCESTORS!!!SHAME ON YOU!!!!
bxlunar 1 month ago
I can't understand for the life of me, if 5% nation don't live an Islamic life, why in the hell do yall use, Allah, Islam in your lessons? Degree 39 yall need to change it, because it say "I FAST AND PRAY ALLAH". Oh yeah I know the lessons,, yall need to revamp the lessons and keep Islam out of it, because Allah don't mean Arm Leg Leg Arm Head, that's a EUROPEAN acronym and Allah in Arabic which is before English isn't an acronym! Ignorance is bliss!
rahim4411 2 years ago
Peace. It's because the lessons are esoteric and as such needs to be left as is. There is a format that it takes to understand the lessons. Remember there is no leader so in order to deal with equality everyone has to get it the same. Also Allah means the God . Who says we can't apply an acronym it? Don't speak on what you don't understand. If you want to build hit me up and we can build.
tpbisdivine 2 years ago
Peace TP, Esoteric? The muslims who were Sufic went into esoteric, so it's nothing new to me. Allah doesn't mean just "THE GOD", it's an Arabic word so it's correct form one must use, your definition is in a box and is limited. See if you knew Arabic you would know Allah is "THE SECRET ONE, THE HIDDEN ONE, THE STRONE ONE, THE CREATOR, etc. That's the Caucasian man's term who you call the devil. It's more than that. Dude I been with the lessons since 79 what are you talking about?
rahim4411 2 years ago
WOW!!! And you still don't know shit and that's why the GODS ran your ass away from them? You had knowledge since "79 and you're bragging about that shit, Man I wouldn't tell no one because you lack understanding which makes you sound like an idiot. Allah means: One who creates something from nothing.... the Life-Giver! And it's obvious that Allah's Teachings didn't give you any life whatsoever, which makes you baffling fool who knows nothing, b.u.t ignorance.
TheMental359 2 years ago
LOL You're so ignorant, I never joined the 5% nation, why would I? LOL I am a Muslim, I think you need to chill! I know who Allah is, and it's not a man!
rahim4411 2 years ago
You shouldn't speak on things you don't know. First of all if Allah is spelt in Arabic there is no way on earth you can make it an acronym, Arabic don't deal with acronyms. Like Islam does not mean "I SELF LORD AND MASTER". Islam comes from the word Salaam which Salaam comes from a tri-literal root consonet "SLM=SIN LAM MIM" So how in the hell do you get "I SELF LORD AND MASTER"? You see? Arabic in it's pure form can't really be translated in English, da bastard language.
rahim4411 2 years ago
What does English is a bastard language really mean?If you really understood that statement you wouldn't make this silly argument. What does esoteric mean? If you understood that then you would understand how it could use Arm Leg leg arm head. Either way I'm Allah. Whether you use it's true definition or our esoteric brake down.
tpbisdivine 2 years ago
W.T.F are you talking about? We put things in a simple and plain form to where the 85% can understand what's being said to them. Were not Muslims and we don't speak Arabic neither so why would I teach them something other than what their familiar with? We speak English so that's w.t.f I'm going to teach them in until they seek that on their own. You're just upset because you have no magnetic or anyone whose attracted to your bullshit, because you lack that divine magnetism. Damn fool!!!
TheMental359 2 years ago
So if you're not Muslim, then stop using Muslim/Islamic terminology! I mean, and apple can't be called an orange right?
rahim4411 2 years ago
Because ALLAH is GOD, that's why. And how is Arm-Leg-Leg-Arm-Head an European acronym? You're just running your mouth and not knowing w.t.f you're talking about, because you have no sense of direction nor purpose whatsoever. You need to study them Lessons a little more harder because you sound like an idiot right now. rahim4411 and 4+4+1+1=10 which is apparent that you have no Knowledge within your Cipher, due to you eating the Wrong Foods makes you an ignorant fool!!!
TheMental359 2 years ago
Do you speak Arabic? I just want to know. Don't lie because I will test you! Oh I will get you on Candid camera since you want attention!
rahim4411 2 years ago
Sure Kemet predates Islam. The Quran often refers to Um-Al-Kitab(mother book of Torah, Injeel and Quran) which is most likely the Kemeten writings. However, Quran states it is perfected and for the people of the earth if they believe. The current Arabs claim universal which is the sunnah's principal protocol. One can see that the African is the most devoted and best at keeping the faith in any persuasion. Even Muhammad ibn Abdullah stated that the Ethiopian is the best example of the faith.
simitar7 2 years ago
Islam, the definition and concept predates Kemet. There were skulls found in Tanzania, I bet they had no inkling of Kemetain knowledge and believed in the concept of One Creator and had nothing to do with Kemet for Kemet the land was under water at one time, being created by Allah for thousands of years. Mizrian came up out of Kush and went to the new land Kemet! Which was mixed with allies beliefs also, so Kemet beliefs are mixed! Zulus by concept and def practice Islam! Aboriginal also!
rahim4411 2 years ago
Who taught you-Tehuti? Your shit is so weak and mythological that I feel like I'm listening to an old Malachi Zyork lecture. Now you're talking some Jurassic Park bullshit talking about some Land of the Lost bullshit!!!
TheMental359 2 years ago
I wouldn't be caught dead learning from Tahuti, are you high?
rahim4411 2 years ago
these debate are helping our people my ass!!!! we going to still be in debate next year! and the year after next! because some of us make good money off these so-called debates HINT HINT!!!!
DoctorKillamassaLOGS 2 years ago
Determined
Arabian decent!
So was Fard Arabian?
Arabian doesnt sound like African to me!
Arabian sounds like people that inslaved Africans.
PanRedBlackGreen 2 years ago
The issue is neither party proved there point. Dr. Muhammad didn't win the debate. It was a waste of time. Dr. Muhammad battled an amateur and now amateurs think something actually went down. Just because the name Allah existed prior to muhammad, doesn't mean ISLAM as a religious, cultural system existed prior to muhammad. There was NO evidence presented that ISLAM was a religion in Africa prior to muhammad. Just because I say aqua in a sentence doesn't mean I speak spanish. The same for Allah.
imhotep06 2 years ago
I don't know man...especially since "Islam" in itself can be seen as "peace"....as a Muslim is one who submits to the One God....how can you say that it didn't exist before Muhammad?...even Muslims would probably disagree with that considering that they call the prophets Abraham, Noah, Moses, and Jesus Muslims as well....at the end of the day it's origins are debatable.
JahariKavi 2 years ago
Titles mean nothing. We're talking about a system of belief. I could say Cab Calloway was a rapper because he "rapped" in some of his songs. That doesn't make him a hip hop mc. The CULTURE of hip hop started after Calloway. Islam, as a religious system did not start before the prophet Muhammad and Wesley didn't prove that it did. Jesus was a muslim by technicality by your definition. He didn't belong to a religious tradition called Islam.
imhotep06 2 years ago
Diop said Islam existed 1,000 years prior to Muhammad.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
as islam is based on 5 principles how is that possible before mohammad? what were they saying in there prayers as he is mentioined in everyone, mecca was full of idopls? so no hajj, no five prayers etc i could list hundreds of principles of islam as called that would be impossible with out mohammad including the quran itself - islam with no quran? how? just saying - this is not an attack peace
skylabx2000 2 years ago
Belief in Allah is before Muhammad. Belief in prayer is before Muhammad. Belief in charity is before Muhammad. Obviously you can't believe in Quran before it arrives. Please list the other hundreds of principles.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
oh come on brother which Bukari would you like me to list you can start with any volume - plus i dont subscribe to belief my mind is free i dont neet to there are 12 animals mentioned in the quran non of which exist on this planet i suppose someone can prove this Taklihuma is the larget one most muslims no nothing of the this becauser the dont read the quran they get told about its content i can qoute the arabic to not the revised yousef ali english which most have its as bad as a KJV bible
skylabx2000 2 years ago
You are going to list Hadith??? Actually, Quran condemns Hadith truth be told. You better come with something else. I'm glad you can quote Quran in Arabic. That is commendable. And I sincerely mean that. But none of what you said goes against Dr. Diop's assertion. Now I AM interested in learning of this Taklihuma and the other animals. You ever think Quran is speaking also about the Spirit world?
TheELSABA 2 years ago
I am a muslim and I am not of NOI, but what in the world are you talking about? Bukari? YOu think I ma believe in Bukari when he said Muhammad is white when it's been proven Arabs are African and dark? I have references and now I have a new one from Dr. Wesley! sheikh Diop, Dr. Sertima, and Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq Al Mansour is a bad brother and I don't think you're on that level basically seeing the way your speaking! Muhammad pbuh would of never approved of the hadith !
rahim4411 2 years ago
if you read me right you would have seen that i was not santioning Bukhari iam well aware of the writtings of Al Jahiz and if you read it in french you would really understand what he wrote but i know you only read english - surah Al Asr is about Asar that whole surah (if you understand Arabic) is about Asar when you finished prasing what ever man you want to praise dont forget to call upon Amen Ra to seal your prayers that was the key to wake you up my god dose not write books i do
skylabx2000 2 years ago
I'm well aware of Asar and Amen. However, can you absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt prove that they come from Kemet? Are you certain they didn't come TO Kemet? There are other Suras named other things. So?
TheELSABA 2 years ago
See there you go telling me what I speak, dude I speak, read and write classical arabic, Old Hebrew-aramaic, into Zulu right now, Some wolof and Yuroba! Please you are killing me with your nonsense! It's not Asar, You fail to realize Kemet wasn't even on the map, they came up out of Kush, go study more then come back. Allah was well known before Muhammad was born, fact his father was named ABDULLLAH! Servant of Allah "- If his name was that then that means Allah existed before Muhammad ! Bam!
rahim4411 2 years ago
One of the best sources of an 9th century writer Al Jahiz who wrote about Muhammad and his family being black Africans, so am I going to trust Bukari who came 250 years after MUhammad or Al Jahiz who is closer to the source? I pick Al Jahiz. He said "They were black as night and magnificent". Also Psychic Trauma by Latif! he drops all the knowledge, we have so many documents on this and Islam being an African belief it's ridiculous!
rahim4411 2 years ago
The name Allah Existed way before Muhammad pbuh was born, then pagan Arabs corrupted it to make money in Mecca at the Kaa'ba. Where the first to bring this in ? Since you unbelievers claim Allah came from Allat, when it didn't. Who had the keys to the Kaa'ba, I want names and dates! Muhamad was born only to restore Islam and Africa back on the map but you cats seem not to realize this! Whether you like it or not, Islam is going to keep growing as the Quran said it would! 1.8 billion strong!
rahim4411 2 years ago
@rahim4411 Brother, We have so many scholars its not even funny. Right now, Islam is the "IS" when Allah said, "BE".History is attractive and best at rewarding our research. Presently, Islam is the winner when the past has failed. 'The winner from debt and the oppression of men', says the Quran. Society has the brothers in debt with interest rates which is oppression and slavery. The Fall of America and still many can not see that Islam is that 'ARK' that should be boarded in this dreadful day.
simitar7 2 years ago
Yes, Muhammad pbuh as record said that "Riba" Usury is prohibited. Now you see the damage it does with interest and usury, now the people fill it. So Muhammad pbuh was RIGHT AND THAT RIGHT THERE PROVES HE'S A PROPHET! The people don't want to listen, this is what happens. Islam is still growing and these psuedo beliefs are falling, just look at the Sanaater, Seti, and Tahuti episodes, it's like a joke!
rahim4411 2 years ago
And you are too, plus we didn't have to watch a boring ass video either. All you had to do was open your mouth and we seen how confused and ignorant you are. You're caught up in suspended animation because your Mindstate is so feeble and fragile, to the point that you don't even believe the shit that comes out your own damn mouth. Rahim4411 is on the same wavelength as Tehuti, Sanaater and Seti.... which means he has no light whatsoever. You're dim as a 25 watt lightbulb! Your shit is dull!!!
TheMental359 2 years ago
Same wave length as Tahuti? NOT! lol
You are wild lol
rahim4411 2 years ago
Go and do some research, your pseudo belief is out of this world. You don't even know when Kush was alive they accepted other beliefs into thier system and Kemet comes out of Kush, so guess what you got a mixture of pagan beliefs, why you think Ankhenaten said to stop worshipping Idols? He was the only one I respect had sense enuff not to do that and believe in one Creator.! Kemetans were pagan worshippers bowing down to idols THEY MADE THEMSELVES! How do you do that?
rahim4411 2 years ago
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Determined
Arabian decent!
So was Fard Arabian?
Arabian doesnt sound like African to me!
Arabian sounds like people that inslaved Africans.
PanRedBlackGreen 2 years ago
Diop said Islam existed more than 1,000 years before Muhammad already.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
Even though those RBG cats got Bombed and destroyed, the messed up thing is they will still leave from this debate saying "Islam is not a Black African religion."
The sad thing is, even though this was a good debate to some it was pointless!
SuperSalam7 2 years ago
I wasn't at the debate, but from the clips I saw of Bro Natural Tahuti he mentioned that he didn't have enough evidence/documents to back up his argument. What?! In a debate it is a MUST that you re-search your stance meticuously and bring the evidence to the table for others to see.That's like going into a battle without the proper artillery.
geneofisis 2 years ago 4
Well, the War Captain and his General (who was by his side the entire time & said he was on the phone with Tahuti 2 hrs a day prepping him) both showed why they are youtube officials. Who gave them those ranks? Whoever gave them those ranks needs to be brought up front and center and court martialed.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
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Determined
Arabian decent!
So was Fard Arabian?
Arabian doesnt sound like African to me!
Arabian sounds like people that inslaved Africans.
PanRedBlackGreen 2 years ago
PERSPECTIVE IS ALWAYS NEEDED
Axumerowe 2 years ago
AA Rashid spoke wisdom at the 3:00 mark. Most of the RBG cats are listening to Seti tell them what's good. Most of the NOI has been in the game since the late 80's when it was about the book; the source. That's why Tahuti and Seti are chumped. They don't give accurate info of their sources, and then lie about their sources. Dr. Muhammad said, even if you disagree with his info, you can at least go check his sources. Why can't we do that with Seti & Tahuti? Because they know they are lying.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
You need to look up who started RBG
RBGUERILLA 2 years ago
I know it was in the Bay and FOI were a part of its beginning. These cats are HIJACKING the term.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
Damn its about time somebody knew It started back in the 80's the first RBG Album was in 1989 by brothers who where politically educated by the Uhuru Movement and Spiritually Educated by the AEM while incarcerated so it's a mixture of both
RBGUERILLA 2 years ago
The Black Woman is the Supreme Goddess that give birth to Black Gods. I haven't met a test tube birthed God or Nigga yet!
tehutiblack 2 years ago 5
2:53 note the piramid @ the back.
EVIL
MuzotAi 2 years ago
this is very interesting.
Shineess1 2 years ago
Good job for putting this up and taking your time to do so.. It's appreciated.. Straight up!
sunofwill 2 years ago 5
the black woman is god,
urbanmunk 2 years ago 18
Indeed!
KingDavid1379 2 years ago
but what does that prove if the supreme being is neither male nor female. Do you ppl really know what the word god really means & its etymological origin?
KARASUNSTAR 2 years ago
@urbanmunk YES I AM ...INDEED!HTP
universalconnections 1 year ago
SelfJust dodged that question tho!!
AnthymOnThaTrack 2 years ago 14
more like juke jived and bolted from the question
Azzaiel 2 years ago 5
No doubt. Ridiculous.
MyNameIsSamael 2 years ago 2
indeed
Azzaiel 2 years ago
P.e.a.c.e. - Cuz he know the Black Womb-man iz God. And duke can't speak 4 the entire NGE when we're individuaL Gods in the culture. The Gods in my knowLedge cypher teach daiLy that the Black Womb-man that the OriginaL Black Man wuz born from iz God. and thatz P.e.a.c.e. -
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Dude you 7:30. Straight up crazy. If you mean that the black womb-man is divine, just as the black man, I agree with you completely. B.U.T the term God, G.O.D., is a masculine term and inappropriate to use for a feminine principle.Show me how I'm wrong.Let's discuss this.
usupreme 2 years ago
God really applies to both genders.
TheELSABA 2 years ago 2
The black womb-man and black man are twin halves to an aspect of the one divinity/one souL which iz the source. The principLe of polarity, oppositez are identicaL in nature, they only differ in degree. God A.K.a. the All in All covers 360 degrees which the black womb-man is apart of, more specificaLLy tho', to separate the two to be more precise we would say the OriginaL Black Man iz God and the OriginaL Black Womb-Man iz the mother of civilization, Earth, Wiz, and Goddess.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago 2
The Black Womb-Man is not a goddess so stop teaching that shit because that's some mythological teaching. Any Male who advocates that fairy tale is only one who worships and submits to the Female as a deity over him. You speaking our (NGE) language and trying to express our divine teachings as if it were yours, b.u.t we (NGE) don't advocate nor promote the Black Woman as being superior to us or over us. She's symbolic to the Moon, the Earth and Wisdom..... and that's that.
TheMental359 2 years ago
P.e.a.c.e. 1st of aLL.
Now, as far as so-called mythology is concerned, African "mythology" birthed aLL ideologiez, culturez, and religionz. Reason i say African, cuz that iz where you'LL alwayz find the oldest physical evidence of our ppL. So, to dis-respect that, iz to dis-respect urself.
Look bruh, don't know bout u, b.u.t. i'm not a follower, i'm an individuaL who repz and studiez the culture of the NGE, b.u.t. i'm not a slave to it...
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Ur speaking on my comments as if my perception of MaLe and FemaLe iz on some low leveL / low frequency bullshyt. My cypher goez far beyond the lower part of ourselvs, which iz the physicaL flesh vehicLe. I'm dealing with principles, such as the Gods being birthed from the Feminem Principle of the Black Womb of the Universe. You would understand this if you studied various points of info. Like myself, and not make shyt holy and pure. the NGE has room to grow jes' like any other nation.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
The MaLe playz his roLe, and the FemaLe playz herz, this ain't got shyt to do with domination. My cypher is 50/50, meaning me and my Queen build 2gether. I don't deaL with the Christian and Islamic teaching of the womb-man being under the thumb of the MaLe. Thatz some paLe man bullshyt, and i hope u ain't on that gobbage. The NGE doesn't have a leader, so who are u to teLL me whut to teach. I deaL with Power/Refinement, so my P.O.V. gets sharpened with new valid information / KnowLedge.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
If you really did the 50/50 You wouldn't be called a God and she called an Earth! wouldn't she be a Goddess? slick talk don't move me. The Qur'an states women have rights too, oh but you don't read Qur'an nor read Arabiah which is from our people.
rahim4411 2 years ago
You're truly an illiterate ass individual, for real. The Black Man is God and the Black Woman is the Earth... for God means: Ultimate Reality and Earth means: Cultivable Soil which is only Firm Land, that God uses to reproduce himself over through. One is the Life-Giver and the other is the Receiver and Bearer of that Life-Germ. So how is she a Goddess? You must cannot rise above (6) so you speak bullshit, due to the fact of you lacking the ability to comprehend God within your damn self!!!
TheMental359 2 years ago
lol the black man is God? Dude you don't know the difference between, god, God and GOD! LOL
rahim4411 2 years ago
Naw, obviousLy u are the one that is mistaken. Learn the science of the Most High - and you'LL overstand why the Black Man iz God. I'LL help u out - the Divine SouL iz the Key - P.e.a.c.e. -
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
I have the knowledge of the Most High who is Allah, and knowledge of self, "Elimu Al Saban Nufus", do you know what that is? If you want to be a Dog/God be my guess. I guess you don't have the knowledge of words yet claim I have no knowledge of the most high. Most High never said he was God I tell you that. So you're following the precepts and concepts of the European?
rahim4411 2 years ago
LoL. I overstand the whoLe dyslexia bullshyt the Europeans puLLed. B4 u pikked up Allah, u don't think that we used another term to describe the All in All? B.u.t. yea i'm a Dawg, ur speaking with the God. And the Divine SouL manifests reality as we cee it and Live it. the Europeans didn't originate shyt, they simply take something that already exist and either change, contort, or add-on to it. We gave them the KnowLedge and now we are the benificiaries to that which we first gave to them.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
To answer ur 1st question, read my commentz above this one. I already spoke on this. Now, I don't have a problem with the Qu'ran or Arabic, b.u.t. whut i do have a problem with is how i've witnessed moslems be-little their women, making sure they understand that they are to be sub-servient to the male. The Black womb-man deserves more than jes' to have rights - we are equaLz in this thang - even tho' we both have roLes - our roLes are equaLLy important, so she deserves that much respect.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Ok, I respect what you said the woman deserves respect. You witness muslim men belittle sistas? Ok, well all my life I have witness MEN who aren't Muslim belittle women, beat them up, cheat on them and the list goes on. Now What's the statistics of non muslim abuse to the ratio of Muslim men abuse of women? See when a man abuse a woman it has nothing to do with their faith, it has something to do with the individual. I don't do that, so why tell me? Women have their roles as you said yep!
rahim4411 2 years ago
The 85% don't even count when it comez their treatment of our ppL. They're liable to do anything at any given time, cuz they don't even have an inklet of who they are i.e. KnowLedge of Self. The connection i saw wuz within the 120 and how the womb-man wuz given limitationz, whiLe the Black Man wuz not. When i witnessed brotherz carrying this ideaL out, i wuz very displeased, b.u.t. they were moslems and not 5 Percenterz.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Bro what in the heck is a moslem? Are you talking about a Muslim? Then you must didn't read Qur'an either because that same connection I have seen in the Qu'ran, stop blaiming and individual and tagging the whole faith. I have seen 5% beat women, have children by women and not EVEN TAKE CARE OF THEIR CHILDREN! I live in NYC but I don't blame the whole 5% nation. You can go down in the court house anytime of the week and see them acting up.
rahim4411 2 years ago
Look, i'm not trying to beat up on moslems, i respect their cypher, let'z get that overstood. I jes' have my own personaL individuaL p.o.v. when it comez to dealing with certain aspects of Life and individuaLz.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Again, who are moslems, and we don't hold ciphers, we hold talims.
Well stop making it a Muslim thing then, if you read the Qur'an you would see women have their rights. If a woman was equal to a man either it would be all women on earth or all men on the earth. Do a woman look like a man? Does she have the same strength of a man? Come on dude you gotta get serious.
rahim4411 2 years ago
Ciphers, talims, call it whut u want. And i hope a womb-man isn't looking like a dude. SimpLy put the men protect the famiLy, and the womb-man holds the fort down, B.U.T. the man also has to have the skiLLz to hold the fort down, and the womb-man should have handz, and a .22 now-a-dayz. We ain't playin' no gamez, we know whut time it iz. We have to be prepared frm every angLe, men and womb-man both.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago 2
NOW THAT I AGREE WITH YOU 100% HECK YEAH! but you know you have to have a spiritual Afro centric woman who isn't afraid to die and that is hard to come by, sistas to worried about their weave pieces and nails getting broken lol A sista will sell you out faster than anyone I know. They fear death to much.
rahim4411 2 years ago
I overstand whut ur saying, and personaLLy i've met way more conscious brothaz than sistahz, b.u.t. that letz me know that we have alot of work to 2 do to wake our Queenz up. Ryte now we're dealing with many femalez who look at prostitution and stripping as an option and that ain't where it'z at. That showz a serious laccing in spirituality. PersonaLLy, i'm working on the sistahz i know, b.u.t. itz a slow process breaking the speLL. Good Luc to u and urz - We have alot of work 2 do - P.e.a.c.e.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Understood, there are those sistas also, that have good jobs that think they are independent and don't need a man, which are off the path also. They advertise this as a way to get back at African descent men, when they find themselves alone they are asking the question where are all the good men. If you're independent you don't need a man. They can't be taught because they won't listen, face it NOT EVERYONE WILL MAKE IT! WE NEED TO GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS!
rahim4411 2 years ago
You won't be able to save everyone, I don't understand why we think we're going to save everyone, it's not going to happen. Save those that want to be saved and leave those behind that love to waddle in ignorance. !
rahim4411 2 years ago
And i dis-agree with ur statement of it has nothing to do with their faith. When ur Symbolz, God whutever the case may be, doesn't consist of Man, Womb-man and Child then as a maLe ur more likeLy to be-little the womb-man, cuz ur God is based on a MaLe Dominating PrincipLe and has nothing to do with the Feminem aspect of Creation. Now, i don't know how u view Allah, b.u.t. i deaL with Man, Womb-man and Child which makez the cypher complete, thus i respect the ALL in ALL.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
Listen when you can stop using the word God, please contact me. You claim I have no knowledge yet you keep using European words. come back when you have the knowledge and can build with me in the original tongue of our people!
Salaam!
rahim4411 2 years ago
If women have roles, then what are they? I am sure it doesn't constitute them trying to be a man. I wanna hear your system of this ROLE THE WOMAN HAS. Because I know their role and my role I wanna hear what you have to say since you brought it up. Peace
rahim4411 2 years ago
And the NGE'z teachingz / KnowLedge / inFo. belong to ALL OriginaL ppL. So, yea they are mine. U remind me of a craccer, trying to claim some info. as if it onLy belongs to certain group of ppL, nigga please. I don't believe the Black Womb-man is superior, i teach that we are equalz. You can't have one without the other, Now, how u luv that. - P.e.a.c.e.
4ThaLuvTube 2 years ago
The cameraman cut Self off. Self was running around the whole time. He's lucky to have gotten Self there for the time that he got him.
TheELSABA 2 years ago
@AnthymOnThaTrack he duck'd and dived it lol
silents08 1 year ago