you might want to make them both 'hanging' targets with a damper, so they swing a bit and then return to center....Thanks for the info, appreciated it. Nice to know. Good job dude.
Hate to be "that guy" especially since i like your videos, but this isnt a fair comparison. the AR500 circle is loose and when hit will give and move causing less damage to the plate. the "soft steel" is fixed and must take the full force of the round causing more damage. that being said, the AR500 steel is still the only way to go. and making the targets able to move when hit will extend the targets life.
I bet a .270 could poke a hole thru that soft steel. How much did you pay for that bushmaster?? if you don't mind me asking, I just really love them, but don't know whats a fair price to pay for one.
i am about to get me a 5/8" hard steel target. i am not planning on shooting it with M855 but i thought about putting some M856 tracer on it around 100 yards when i get it. you don't think the tracer rounds will damage the targets like the 62 gr M855 do ya???
FYI....I'm planning to take this same soft steel target, turn it around, and whack it with some 5.56mm NATO green tip at 200 yards or so. I suspect we will see a noticable difference in impact properties. Will try to do this over the 4th of July weekend.
Seeing the impacts up close on the soft steel target is very interesting, really gives a good impression of the incredible amount of energy those little bullets carry. Isn't it strange how the shooting position camera records the sound as a, "whop" and the target camera hears a, "ting"? Your close up shots show that you use a high quality camera, very nice.
exellent video. I've been looking to setup some steel on my property in Montana. You and good ol' Hickok have the best firearms related channels on youtube. No BS, and good info with a laid back style. Keep up the great work!
@tnoutdoors9 NOt sure where he's at, but I'm in SW Montana. If you not using frangible ammo in 5.56, what is the min. distance for steel? I attended a carbine course and when doing transitions from carbine to pistol, we got some big chunks bouncing back. One hit a fellow shooter right above his eye, leaving a nice cut.
I don't try anything on these less than 150 yards. My typical distances are 200 to 400 yards. I'm going to post a "pepper popper" video in the near future.
LOL first time the owl has been mentioned in months. Funny, because I saw a live owl when filming this video. Who knows, an owl sibling could appear in a future video. I still owe the security guard a VS catalog, otherwise, the zombies have mysteriously stopped visiting.
.223/5.56mm shatters, as did .308/7.62x51 when I owned rifles in that caliber. I posted a video of Glock 19 groups at 25 yards. At the end of that video, I give you a close up of how handgun rounds are affected by these targets.
Very informative...I just picked up a couple scrap pieces of about 1/2" steel plates down by the tracks. (Base plates that go between the rail and tie.) I don't think it's a good idea to use 'em up close now.
@biguy525 Action Target's targets are made of 500 brinell steel and they say you should be fine as long as the round doesn't exceed 3,000 fps - using the 3,000 fps as both a judge of distance and velocity - I take this to mean that you're fine as long as the bullet doesn't impact the target at 3k fps... if you're firing a round that meets or exceeds 3k fps you should adjust your distance accordingly so that, at impact, the bullet will be traveling under 3k fps.
Handgun rounds would still shatter, but firing this rifle, if it hits over a crater from the reverse side, would likely pass through. Especially with 62 grain NATO; steel penetrator.
@tnoutdoors9 just playing it safe,just watching all that metal bounce off is scary enough,god forbid you think its gonna bounce just to fine a clean hole in the steel and whatever unlucky enough to be behind it in a state you dont quite want it to be in
That could certainly happen. These were setup on a hillside, with several miles uninhabited land behind it. It doesn't get much better than that being within 25 miles of a major city. I will not try this in my backyard due to the scenario you mentioned. Rule of thumb....always have a good backstop behind your targets, regardless of target density.
Great question. The flipside is covered with raised dimples from all the deeper impacts, which still makes it unsafe for handguns. As noted here, that deepest hole from these shots was over 1/4". That "hole" has to go somewhere, which is out the back. There's a joke there, but I'm not saying it!
BTW, I was not using two cameras. Just running back and forth between segments and trying to do so before running out of light. During editing, I had to tweak the lighting on the wrap-up segment....bummer. The lack of good lighting was my only concern in posting this.
the soft steel target looked nasty
deltaomegaable 1 month ago
you might want to make them both 'hanging' targets with a damper, so they swing a bit and then return to center....Thanks for the info, appreciated it. Nice to know. Good job dude.
scootkh 2 months ago
Hate to be "that guy" especially since i like your videos, but this isnt a fair comparison. the AR500 circle is loose and when hit will give and move causing less damage to the plate. the "soft steel" is fixed and must take the full force of the round causing more damage. that being said, the AR500 steel is still the only way to go. and making the targets able to move when hit will extend the targets life.
johnlomax13 2 months ago
I bet a .270 could poke a hole thru that soft steel. How much did you pay for that bushmaster?? if you don't mind me asking, I just really love them, but don't know whats a fair price to pay for one.
crzygutrsnobrdr 2 months ago
what is the steel called thats softer and harder? i just bought me an ar15 and im looking for a reliable metal spinning target any suggestions?
johnnyfisalive 3 months ago
i love your ar15. i want to get one just like it
ChrisreadIRL 3 months ago
Nice demo fo the targets. Been thinking of some for myself.
LEXPIX 3 months ago
@tnoutdoor9 I would love to see a video of a 5.56 NATO round
KYoutdoors78 7 months ago
i love hearing the ping from the hit and then hearing the shot
xXsiLeNtXkILLzXx 7 months ago
i am about to get me a 5/8" hard steel target. i am not planning on shooting it with M855 but i thought about putting some M856 tracer on it around 100 yards when i get it. you don't think the tracer rounds will damage the targets like the 62 gr M855 do ya???
sergeantfriday 11 months ago
dude if u use 50 cal it would probably return back
mingsorock3 1 year ago
@mingsorock3 it would punch a hole
mycaddigo 5 months ago
I would be worried about a ricochet taking out my camera, lol.
AngryPrawn 1 year ago
FYI....I'm planning to take this same soft steel target, turn it around, and whack it with some 5.56mm NATO green tip at 200 yards or so. I suspect we will see a noticable difference in impact properties. Will try to do this over the 4th of July weekend.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
Seeing the impacts up close on the soft steel target is very interesting, really gives a good impression of the incredible amount of energy those little bullets carry. Isn't it strange how the shooting position camera records the sound as a, "whop" and the target camera hears a, "ting"? Your close up shots show that you use a high quality camera, very nice.
theKGB65 1 year ago
heartbreaking miss at 1:55!!! great shooting btw with that varminter. I am jonesing for one of these myself.
udannlin 1 year ago
@udannlin
Yeah, can't blame the miss on the rifle, 100% shooter error.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
Thanks, nice video!
EspritBerlin 1 year ago
exellent video. I've been looking to setup some steel on my property in Montana. You and good ol' Hickok have the best firearms related channels on youtube. No BS, and good info with a laid back style. Keep up the great work!
spectre143 1 year ago 2
@spectre143
Thanks! Do you live anywhere near Hank Jr? I was of the understanding that he owned miles of land up there, and was a great shooter.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9 NOt sure where he's at, but I'm in SW Montana. If you not using frangible ammo in 5.56, what is the min. distance for steel? I attended a carbine course and when doing transitions from carbine to pistol, we got some big chunks bouncing back. One hit a fellow shooter right above his eye, leaving a nice cut.
spectre143 1 year ago
@spectre143
I don't try anything on these less than 150 yards. My typical distances are 200 to 400 yards. I'm going to post a "pepper popper" video in the near future.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
Hey, TNOutdoors... do you ever worry that the owl is watching you and studying your tactics? Also, how's your new security guy working out?
bombilla42 1 year ago
@bombilla42
LOL first time the owl has been mentioned in months. Funny, because I saw a live owl when filming this video. Who knows, an owl sibling could appear in a future video. I still owe the security guard a VS catalog, otherwise, the zombies have mysteriously stopped visiting.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
Have you tried your green tip ammo on this steel plates?
ian3265 1 year ago
@ian3265
Yes, there is a video in the AR15 playlist.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
Great vid, as always!!
;)
AlienProduce 1 year ago
what does a round look like after it hits.. do you ever find any or do they shatter or ricochet away?
p20 1 year ago
@p20
.223/5.56mm shatters, as did .308/7.62x51 when I owned rifles in that caliber. I posted a video of Glock 19 groups at 25 yards. At the end of that video, I give you a close up of how handgun rounds are affected by these targets.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
Great vid
patriotsnfl1 1 year ago
Great Info , Nice shooting !
krazy45cat 1 year ago
Very informative...I just picked up a couple scrap pieces of about 1/2" steel plates down by the tracks. (Base plates that go between the rail and tie.) I don't think it's a good idea to use 'em up close now.
jwash3rd 1 year ago
Cool vid, as always.
jeffshootsstuff 1 year ago
how fascinating how the shot is heard after the bullet hits the steel.
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Good for snipers I guess....
MrGunsplosion101 1 year ago
@MrGunsplosion101 Takes time for the sound to travel the 200 yards from the rifle to the target.
AnclTsagaree 1 year ago
How close do you think you could hit the 500 brinell round plate before you have a problem?
biguy525 1 year ago
@biguy525
I've done it with 5.56 NATO ammo at 80 yards or so....video is posted in the AR15 playlist. Give it a look and let me know what you think.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@biguy525 Action Target's targets are made of 500 brinell steel and they say you should be fine as long as the round doesn't exceed 3,000 fps - using the 3,000 fps as both a judge of distance and velocity - I take this to mean that you're fine as long as the bullet doesn't impact the target at 3k fps... if you're firing a round that meets or exceeds 3k fps you should adjust your distance accordingly so that, at impact, the bullet will be traveling under 3k fps.
jrmym2 1 year ago
Loved the video, thanks for sharing.
Samboust 1 year ago
why don't you flip the steel plate over for handgun?
Silveradofanatic 1 year ago
@Silveradofanatic it would probably go through the the plate,with the other side being all shot up and all
Returacan 1 year ago
@Returacan
Handgun rounds would still shatter, but firing this rifle, if it hits over a crater from the reverse side, would likely pass through. Especially with 62 grain NATO; steel penetrator.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9 just playing it safe,just watching all that metal bounce off is scary enough,god forbid you think its gonna bounce just to fine a clean hole in the steel and whatever unlucky enough to be behind it in a state you dont quite want it to be in
Returacan 1 year ago
@Returacan
That could certainly happen. These were setup on a hillside, with several miles uninhabited land behind it. It doesn't get much better than that being within 25 miles of a major city. I will not try this in my backyard due to the scenario you mentioned. Rule of thumb....always have a good backstop behind your targets, regardless of target density.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@Silveradofanatic
Great question. The flipside is covered with raised dimples from all the deeper impacts, which still makes it unsafe for handguns. As noted here, that deepest hole from these shots was over 1/4". That "hole" has to go somewhere, which is out the back. There's a joke there, but I'm not saying it!
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
@tnoutdoors9 ok i didn't know that. =]
Silveradofanatic 1 year ago
I loved the video! Big thumbs up!!!!
GunFreak270 1 year ago
Nice!
ArtisanTony 1 year ago
Very interesting. The target camera was cool. I like to see the impacts.
multicam2000 1 year ago
@multicam2000
BTW, I was not using two cameras. Just running back and forth between segments and trying to do so before running out of light. During editing, I had to tweak the lighting on the wrap-up segment....bummer. The lack of good lighting was my only concern in posting this.
tnoutdoors9 1 year ago
That was Awsome. great Vid a big thumbs up from me 5*
Tamryn
TamrynRimfire 1 year ago
Great shooting as always. Thanks for the information my friend.
bisquik3006 1 year ago
I recently purchased a Evil Roy practice target. I should be getting it in a few days.
BryanShotYou 1 year ago
ive often wondered about different steel
thanks for the video
huntthefarm 1 year ago