Star Trek - Star Trek: The Motion Picture Wormhole FX Sequence Recreation V2

[BillyJimOMFG]

I'm confused. So like the torpedo is the fastest thing moving, and the asteroid is just stationary, sittin ghtere, in a tube that sucking a spaceship thru it faster than light?

What kind of space camera filmed this?

[CJCA915]

@BillyJimOMFG The asteroid is slowly moving towards the Enterprise... in most of the shots, the camera is mounted to the Enterprise.

[nozcr]

@BillyJimOMFG In order to go faster than light, the Enterprise uses those big magnets in the rear to bend the fabric of space into a tube, which it glides through pushed by a wave. This time, an asteroid got sucked into the tube due to an imbalance in the field generators, so it was also getting pushed along faster than light, but slowly being overtaken by the Enterprise, since it was the one with the engines. They tried to slow down, but the engines would not respond, so they destroyed it.

[nozcr]

@BillyJimOMFG As I understand it, they used an oscillascope, a device used by sound technicians to create a picture of a sound wave. using video processors they bent the sound wave into a tube. (also used in Dr.Who opening, The original Willy Wonka (1971), and The Electric Company(PBS)) It was a totally analog effect.

[AeronPeryton]

It looks like one person didn't belay those Phaser orders. :P

[CJCA915]

@AeronPeryton huh?

[AeronPeryton]

@CJCA915 You have 1 dislike. That could only mean that person decided to fire Phasers at the asteroid... effectively tearing the ship apart. ;)

[CJCA915]

@AeronPeryton oh

[MrMoorkey]

@AeronPeryton Don't you mean 'beeeeelllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaa­aaaaaaaaay thoooose ppphhhhhaaaaaaaaassseer ooooooorrrrddeeeerrrrrrsssss?'

[nozcr]

@MrMoorkey TTTTTTTAAAAARRRRRGGGGGEEETTTII­IINNNGGGG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSTTT­TTTTTTEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRROOOOO­OOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDD­DDDDDDD.

[MrMoorkey]

@nozcr TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRR­RRPEEEEEEEEEDOOOO AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

[nozcr]

@MrMoorkey Don't ever question my orders in front of the crew. Understood?

[MrMoorkey]

@nozcr You haven't logged a single star-hour in two and a half years. That, plus your unfamiliarity with the ship's redesign, in my opinion, seriously jeapordises this mission.

[nozcr]

@MrMoorkey UH, uh, well ... How do you like the new flat screen TV in my quarters? It's about time they put one of these in my room.

[StarFleetCommand3]

@nozcr I which he just relax and enjoy amazing picture clarity of the DirectTV HD we just hooked up. What Starfleet just ponied up for this big screen TV, settling for cable would be illogical. What, I can't use that line? *shrug*

[ocerg1111]

wow this was really well done.

[doceigen]

The original warp spectral flash and the wormhole smear, are mine... I sold those to Paramount, they are holographic gratings.

[CJCA915]

@doceigen huh?

So, you're saying the effect used by Paramount, was your idea?

[doceigen]

@CJCA915 I don't know whose 'idea' the effects were, they might have been mine since I produced the holographic gratings that made those effects, or it might have been someone in charge who heard of my capabilities and products, and when my gratings came through for consideration said, "I want those!". I don't know? I do know that three years later I was offered a job with Dykstra, and hadn't even known I was noticed.

[CJCA915]

@doceigen Interesting... so how exactly do these holographic gratings work?

[doceigen]

@CJCA915 The holographic gratings used in that movie, mine... are re-mappers of one space to another. Essentially, to describe them in an easy to understand form, one mathematically transforms a 3D shape from one side of the hologram, through it, to location(s) on the other side. For instance, the warp burst was a circle of apertures around a zero order, very symmetric. Reconstructed with a laser, they were only 'dots', but with white light, they became spectral (chromatic) radial smears.

[doceigen]

If you notice, the aqua (argon ion laser) dot pattern in the medical scanner that they used to analyze the Illia (sp?) nanobot construct, it is a variation of the warp burst, but with a lot more orders built in, it was called 'Galactic #27', there were hundreds I had fabricated, for use from... Mickey throwing magic spells at Disneyland, to laser shows, camera filters, and other movie effects ('Time After Time', and others)... different patterns, different effects, different strengths, etc.

[CJCA915]

@doceigen Nice.

[CJCA915]

@doceigen Interesting, yea, in my video here they aren't exactly like the movie, but it's easy enough to do in CG, you properly texture a few cylinders with a spectrum texture or manually do it with a built in gradient ramp, and put them in a circle, duplicate them manually, to create the tunnel, and voila.

[doceigen]

@CJCA915 CGI, was just a glint in our imaginations at that time, actual physical optics, was the ticket to such manifestations... hehe Although I did and still do... 'automate' the robotics on my holographic tables in order to obtain the final products I need for my work. So, I guess you might say, the effects in that movie were hybrid digital-analog, maybe the first of their kind?, by that lose interpretation.

[doceigen]

@doceigen 'loose interpretation'. YouTube needs an 'edit' button, you'd think this was a film effect rather than digitally based chat!? lol

[CJCA915]

@doceigen haha.

[Spud13ify]

@CJCA915 Another guy, videospacefx re-did this same thing and multiple people asked why the torpedoes are blue. I suggested that they might have been quantum torpedoes but vsfx said they were just blue from the movie. Can you clarify please?

[CJCA915]

@Spud13ify The were photon torpedoes, they just were blue, when fired, photon torpedoes usually appear as a spiky ball of energy of varying colors, such as red, orange, yellow, blue, or green.

The quantum torpedo is an advanced heavy weapon developed by Starfleet as a part of its Advanced Defense Initiative to combat Borg incursions, at the time of TMP, the Borg were unknown to exist.

[nozcr]

@Spud13ify The color of the torpedo depends on the Effects Technician who is doing the effect. They have been all sorts of colors in the past 50 years. The lack of continuity is one reason that JJ Abrams decided to start the series over in another dimension. That way they wouldn't have to follow anything that was seen in the first five Star Trek series.

[Spud13ify]

@nozcr Yeah, that makes sense.

[myriad1973]

Wow

[CJCA915]

@myriad1973 lol.

[vaasnaad]

DEAD ON!!!

[CJCA915]

@vaasnaad Thanks.

[Chevron7engage]

Very nice!! Much better!

[deltanalliance]

The warp flash is better

BUT SO IS THE WORMHOLE :D

and the stars look fixed as well

[deltanalliance]

the photon going to the asteroid could use better alignment though

[CJCA915]

@deltanalliance Well, the light object was in line with the asteroid, in the scene.

[CJCA915]

@deltanalliance The warp flash is the same as the first version of this, lol.

Yea, took me a while to get exactly right, and the stars are actually 4 Blizzard particle systems put into square shape, to create a empty center, of which is obscured when the wormhole is added to the shot.

[katey1dog]

Mr. Chekov, stand by on phasers.

NO! BELAY THAT PHASER ORDER! Arm photon torpedoes!

[CJCA915]

@katey1dog haha.