Paula Zahn discusses RON PAUL / 9-11 / U.S. foreign policy

[manalone999]

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with Christianity, which was spread by peaceful evangelism.

[freakazoidodo]

None of the monotheistic religions spread completely peacefully.

[manalone999]

You are right, but I was thinking of the first few hundred years of Christianity compared to the first few hundred years of Islam. The difference between the two religions is that the Bible does not call upon Christians to spread the faith by the sword, whereas the Koran commands Muslims to wage war against the infidels until Islam reigns supreme.

[freakazoidodo]

the old testament/tanakh is pretty violent, but yes, the new testament is a radical departure from that. compare jesus christ and muhammad and you get two radically different pictures. ideas such as democracy and toleration are foreign to the islamic world, because many of them are still stuck in their 7th century jihad state. these people actually believe humans were literally created from clay. it's hard to believe their pre-islamic pagan ancestors were more tolerant than they are today.

[manalone999]

I advise Ron Paul to read the Koran. Then he will know why America was attacked on 9/11. He will also learn why Muslims have carried out over 2000 terrorist attacks since 9/11, and why non-Muslims are being slaughtered by Muslims in Nigeria and Kenya and elsewhere - all in the name of their religion.

[HarisPeer]

You need to read the Quran first before passing judgments on something you have no knowledge of. Is KKK, Hitler, Lords Army, the US Army Muslims? Is Israel being run by Muslims? Did the Muslims through nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? babes, you need to keep it zipped if you aren't ready or able to approach political/international issues rationally.

Enjoy that bud in your trailer park!

[manalone999]

I have read enough of the Koran to know that it is full of violence, hate, racism, xenophobia and incitement to murder. It promotes hatred of women, hatred of homosexuals, hatred of Jews, hatred of Christians, hatred of anything that is not Islamic, and hatred of life. It would be immediately banned under hate speeech laws if it did enjoy the completely undeserved status of holy scripture. You bringing up Hiroshima or the KKK clan in this context just shows what a muddle-headed moonbat you are.

[researchris2]

for my educational purposes, can you give me specific places in the koran where i can read about the promotion of hatred of homos, jews, christians or anything not islamic? if you could pinpoint them down for me to save me time in looking, that would be greatly appreciated. i would rather read the words rather than 2nd hand which could be twisted by interpretation.

[manalone999]

Hello researchris2

Try googling "Islam and Christianity - The Koran versus the Bible". There you will find citations from the Koran such as the following:

"Strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; and after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (Koran 47:4).

"Good women are obedient.... As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish

[manalone999]

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them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them." (Koran 4:34)

Several on-line editions of the Koran are available. Just type "the Koran" in google.

As you will see, from the very beginning the Koran concerns itself with the war between Islam and the unbelievers:

[2.98] "Whoever is the enemy of Allah and His angels and His apostles and Jibreel and

[manalone999]

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Meekaeel, so surely Allah is the enemy of the unbelievers". For unbelievers there are only three options: conversion to Islam, submission to its laws and payment of the jizya (9:29)- i.e. dhimmi status, or death.

[mr1over]

not true. the holy koran does not teach violence, hate racism, xenophobia and incitement to murder, hatred of women, hatred of jews hatred to christians. as a matter of fact islam says to be nice to christians and jews and so on and so forth. and we love are womens so much to the extant that we go out and work in the burning sun while we keep them insaid the house to rest. please dont say things like that again because it is not true

[manalone999]

The trouble is, all the evidence points in the other direction. Honour killings, domestic violence, stonings of adulteresses, terrorism, anti-Semitism, female genital mutilation, religiously-motivated violence (see Darfur, Algeria, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan etc.), mutilation and lashings for criminals, persecution of homosexuals etc. etc. are all rife in the Islamic world. Words are cheap. The proof is in the pudding.

[mr1over]

what?? how do you know that i dont know about my religion?? yes you are right about killing the nonbelivers, however thats only at war. we dont kill people for no reason. and muhammad (peace be upon him) did not commanded an army that plundered, raped, murdered and tortured. where did you get the info from?? He was marcyfull to the mankind.

Why say things that are not true. how would you feel if someone things about you that werent true? dont be mad, lets talk about the true. and see for oursef

[manalone999]

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Mohammed then attacked the Banu Qurayza, another Jewish tribe, and slaugthtered all the 700 male prisoners. The females were led away into slavery. The pretext for all Mohammed's compaigns against non-believers was that they had conspired against Islam or resisted Allah's will. According to the Koran, unbelievers must be converted, made to the pay the jizya (poll tax), or killed. Islam was spread by the sword, in contrast

[mr1over]

i did not get a reply from you.. i replied to your second Message.

[2bad440]

Go Ron!

[BosnianPasa]

That boy, needs a spanking ...his father was probably a Racist man..no wonder "DUMBO" (look at his ears) turned out this way !

Of course the US forgein policy is what causes problems...look at the creation/support of israel,afghanistan,iraq..iran.­...

Ron Paul is a legend...I hope he becomes the next president

[manalone999]

Sorry BosnianPasa, Islam is the problem, not the US. Muslims are killing non-Muslims everywhere, all in the name of their religion. Muslim fanatics have also killed 200,000 other Muslims in Algeria, and Shiites are killing Sunnites and vice versa on a massive scale in Iraq. And you really think this is a religion of peace?

[mr1over]

how is islam the problem. muslims are not killing non muslims. who ever is killing means that person is a murderer. committing suicide is not what islam teaches. as a matter of fact its prohibited. please try to understand me. just because people are killing them self dose not mean islam said to do so. and yes islam is the religion of peace

[manalone999]

You sound like a Muslim who doesn't know his own religion. Have you read the Koran? It says over and over to kill the infidel, kill homosexuals, kill apostates. Mohammed himself commanded an army that plundered, raped, murdered and tortured. He personally ordered people he regarded as his enemies to be killed. These included poets who had dared to poke fun at him.

[tattypatty]

What a little faggot Ben is. Sign up and serve, you cocksucker.

[amosmudd]

Hey, Ben... Paul McCartney wants his old haircut back... Glad you're on their side.

[ster1357]

ben is retarded

[rick969696]

Little Ben in the middle needs to pull his head out of his ass.

[Cellulartrace]

I'm waiting for the Administration's parrots to explain why terrorists aren't bombing Estonia, known as the most free country in Europe, or Hong Hong, the most economically free city on earth.

Why don't these crazy freedom haters blow themselves up in a Zurich nightclub or attack the sexually free red light district in Prague?

[cat22203]

...because Estonia, the city of Hong Kong (not China, see issues/conflict with Tibet and Korea) and Switzerland are NOT occupying illegally, that is against international law, the land of another ethnic/religious group, i.e. Palestinians, causing tremendous suffering and conflict in the whole region where the occupied population lives "in the name of another Holocaust that 'might' happen".

[cat22203]

and of course, the aforementioned cities and countries do not occupy illegally Iraq so as for Halibarton and the rest of the Anglo-Texan oil companies to become richer than ever before in the history of free market!

[cat22203]

...excellent comment by the way Cellulartrace.

[JONtheBASSIST89]

Wow. Ben is really ignoring the facts. Like people hate for no reason and want to blow themselves up for no reason. years of us meddling in others ppls affairs causes problems, sanctions, military bases, bombing...how would we feel is Saudis had bases here, and were bombing certain religious areas...I think some anger would be created, yes? thus lead to acts of violence..any person with a little ounce of intelligence can come to this conculsion.

[QuelDr0ma]

but for Iraq in particular has anyone actually calculated the deaths and mis-births from depleted uranium alone? It's freaking disgusting. Thats what we've been doing in Iraq for 10 years. granted yes if it wasn't depleated uranium it would be lead but what is more destructive poisonus metal vs. radioactive poisonus metal

[Charlie8417]

Ben Furgeson should be banned from commenting on any more shows. The guy is immature in his responses and lacks the ability think outside the box. Instead he results to insults and absurd accusations.

[tuanv]

Please someone slap ferguson. He sounds like some little boy that swipe some candy from a store. Nice haircut Ben. Glad you put that Flowbee to good use.

[morris0n2]

hahahah ben ferguson what a joke. i cant believe cnn has such OBVIOUS inbreds on air. they usually have much better actors like zahn and blitzer. he should go on air after glenn beck it would be a kickass 1-2 punch of idiocy. u amers are fawked

[infotainment]

I agree...what is interesting in this coverage is what is NOT aired or given voice....

[Jmuduke]

God, how badly they spun that. Anyone who has any common sense who saw the debate can smell the bullshit

[amosmudd]

And anyone with common sense knows the TV audience did not reflect the true feelings of most Americans. Clap for Rudy? I don't think so... I hope Rudy and the people in that audience have done their homework and read a book or two. Sad, sad inbreds. Rudy is a traitor and the son of a mobster.. Like father like son.

[CRiticaL2008]

Holy crap. The airtime given to arrogant little cretins like Ben Ferguson is almost justification enough for al-Qaeda and other terrorists to attack this country. Too bad they don't make Ben the target of their "craziness" instead of innocents.

[SeiferothX]

Ben Ferguson is the perfect example of the stifling idiocy that has engulfled America.

CNN is an example of the stifling censorship that has engulfed America.

They DELIBERATELY DIDNT PLAY parts of Ron Pauls speech where he talked about US foreign policy and such things..

[Budvb]

Ben Ferguson should Join the Military since he understands so much! He is of Perfect Age to Fight for the War!

[Budvb]

Rudy Go Home! Rudy Go Home! God Bless America and The People's Army!