@MainOirdb A longline setup like the one in this video will run you about $1000. You can vary the components a bit and save a little cash. It's always good to get a good tensioning system for yourself that will last you for years and years. You can get all this stuff at balancecommunity (dot) com.
My pulley system on the beginning was 12 meters. When I pull, it starts 7 meters. So 5 meters I pull. Looks like enough, but sag was more than 3 meters. I have video, but not on youtube, another site. I use 4 double blocks. I can pull more, but Im afraid slackline could break.
@blyaxamuxin I have had bad experiences with White Magic in the past (broken it 5 times on lines longer than 140m). With a strength of just 31 kN, rigging lines with 1.2 - 1.4 tonnes can be quite dangerous. I would suggest going with a stronger webbing if you plan on doing lines this long. Something like Mantra MKII is good (you can find it on in the Balance Community Shop)
@blyaxamuxin Okay. Since the force will be about 1.2 tonnes (150m long, 2.5m sag, 82 kg weight = ~12 kN of force), you should assume a stretch percentage of roughly 8%. This means that you should leave about 12m for your pulley system, just to be safe.
Does anyone know if 150 meters longline, how many meters I should strech the slackline? I strech 150 meters on 5 meters more =155 meters. It is enough , or to much?
@blyaxamuxin That depends on what kind of webbing you are using. Do you know what the stretch is of your webbing at a particular force? A 150m longline should have around 2-3m of sag, which means you will need roughly 1.1t - 1.4t of tension, depending on your weight.
@diogofernandoblockwe It's called a multiplier. Look on Slack Science for an idea of how to set them up. You can purchase them in the Balance Community Shop under Multiplier Kits (sub-category to Pulley Systems).
Hello I wonder what the name of the equipment that you use after blocking the pulley, the pulley that you always have to come back to continue pulling the rope to stretch the line? know?
@blyaxamuxin This line is about 70m long. Your questions is a bit vague, but I am assuming you want to know how much sag you need in a 150m line? If so, this totally depends on your style. I like really loose lines, so I put my anchors at about 3m-4m up on the tree and tension the line so I am about .5m off the ground in the middle. Others like tight lines and rig it such that there is about 2m sag. It's all up to you and what kind of gear you have.
I am thinking about running the exact same setup as this video except for having a grigri2 as my brake....i'm new to longlines and was wondering, say that the grigri slipped and being completely tensioned and tyed off, how would i be able to detension the longline? i'm not sure if this ever happens or has happened, i was just curious....
@StandingSidewayz The Grigri 2 is a wonderful option to use as a brake. This will allow you to use smaller rope to make your pulley system significantly lighter. If the rope were to slip (which happens at roughly 2.7 kN of load on the GriGri) and there is a backup tied, then to release tension you would have to take the tail from the knot and run it through the multiplier to add a bit of tension to the system. Then you could untie the knot and release tension as usual.
how strong do the carabiners need to be for a line thats around 500 feet? or does there just need to be one really strong(65kn) one that connects to the line and the rest don't really matter?
@DWebster01 I strongly suggest getting shackles instead of carabiners for any lines that are longer than 300 feet. The forces involved in these kinds of lines is absurd. You should check out some 1/2" or 5/8" anchor shackles.
@BalanceCommunity oh no i meant the carabiner that connects the the line to the pully system. this video shows the line with 2 rings and a carabiner connected to the double pully and i was wondering with all that tension at that carabiner how strong of a carabiner would that need to be?
@DWebster01 Well, the line in this video is only 230 feet long. For a line that is 500 feet long, you should not be using carabiners at this point in the system.
For this 230 foot line, I used an Omega Pacific 72kn steel carabiner, which is more than strong enough. I would suggest something that is stronger than your webbing for a connection point (over 40kn) for lines shorter than 300 feet in length. After this, upgrade to shackles.
Nice set-up, I just purchased my first spool of type 18 and now I am doing research on which companies to buy my pulleys from.
Are shackles from the hardware store okay to use, or do they take a little work to get ready to accept webbing without fraying the webbing because of how it was forged?
Do you reccomend C.A.M.P. for the pulleys or petzl?
@tbyg7 You should stay away from shackles from the hardware store. Get yourself some nice, forged, smooth shackles. You can get them pretty cheap on ebay. You should try and get 5/8" because they will fit the webbing perfectly.
For pulleys, you should check out the Balance Community pulley selection , they carry SMC pulleys which are the best of the best. Stick with SMC when it comes to tensioning gear, you will not regret the extra money spent.
What are you using for the line lockers there? It looks like you've got the small madrock rap rings as washers on the shackle? Where did you get the 2" ID rap rings?
@akdirtbag Yea, I am using a modified version of the shackle line-locker kit found on the Balance Community Shop that works on a 5/8" shackle. they have both of those ring sizes in the Balance Community Shop also under rings. The bigger ones are the Mad Rock Large rings and the smaller ones are the Mad Rock small rings.
Hey Jer, What is your opinion on using a gri-gri instead of an I'D. I'm looking at grabbing some SMC double PMPs off of you when I head over to the US shortly (in New Zealand at the moment). I've got a gri-gri as well as some petzl ascenders.
@akdirtbag The grigri works wonderfully for this setup. I've used grigri's for lines up to 200m long before. It just gets quite hard to open the grigri when you get to higher tensions, this is why I usually suggest the ID over the grigri. But if you are on a budget, stick with the grigri, it will work just fine.
@drm107 That really depends on the type of webbing that you are using. If you know the percent stretch that your webbing has, just multiple 60 meters by this percentage to get a distance that you will need to stretch the webbing to get it tight. Then take this distance and multiple it by 5 to come up with the amount of rope you will need for a 5:1 pulley system.
Yea it does actually. The RIG is a smaller I'D without a few of the special features that the I'D has. For instance, the RIG doesn't have the safety cam in case you were to rig the rope backwards...but we really don't need this for how we use it. I'd say that the RIG is a great replacement for the I'D in this setup.
one thing though, i've heard that it's a good idea to set up a back up to prevent the gear from shooting at you at high speed in case of system failure?
hey jerry! it's hayley from Yosemite, Thanks so much for posting this video, it's been really helpful. I was having a really hard time figuring this out before!
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If thisa slack line my knob's a kipper. Why do you pull a huge amount of tention into a dynamic rope,then stand back give yourself a pat on the back and call it a slackline. Can you point out the slack part of your slackline for me
it's called a long line dumbass.... try standing in the middle of a 230' line without tensioning it that much... guess what will happen. You'll be standing on the ground.
There is more than one type of 'slackline' and each type requires a different amount of tension.
Here's my approximate guess in CAD: 70m webbing = $70 25m static 11mm rope = $75 rescue pulleys (2 double, 1 single) = $165 Petzl ID = $225 ropeman ascender = $40 jumar = $65 4-5x biners + line lockers = $50 anchor slings, friendlies = $30 grand total: $720! OUCH. money saver hints: - use a GriGri instead of the ID ($80 vs $225) - use 5x Stubai Pulley's instead ($50 vs $165) - you don't need that jumar, just grab the rope!
sorry for my english, i'm Italian
I'm doing basic slackline from many months now... I want to know how much does it cost all this equipment? Thank you very much!
MainOirdb 3 weeks ago
@MainOirdb A longline setup like the one in this video will run you about $1000. You can vary the components a bit and save a little cash. It's always good to get a good tensioning system for yourself that will last you for years and years. You can get all this stuff at balancecommunity (dot) com.
BalanceCommunity 3 weeks ago
@BalanceCommunity Thank you so much :)
MainOirdb 3 weeks ago
My pulley system on the beginning was 12 meters. When I pull, it starts 7 meters. So 5 meters I pull. Looks like enough, but sag was more than 3 meters. I have video, but not on youtube, another site. I use 4 double blocks. I can pull more, but Im afraid slackline could break.
blyaxamuxin 1 month ago
@blyaxamuxin I have had bad experiences with White Magic in the past (broken it 5 times on lines longer than 140m). With a strength of just 31 kN, rigging lines with 1.2 - 1.4 tonnes can be quite dangerous. I would suggest going with a stronger webbing if you plan on doing lines this long. Something like Mantra MKII is good (you can find it on in the Balance Community Shop)
BalanceCommunity 1 month ago
Thanks for respond. I use white magic 6,5 % elongation at 10 kN (1/3 of break strength)
flat webbing 25 mm (1 inch) width made of Polyester fibers
minimal break strength 31 kN
my weight 82 kilograms,
blyaxamuxin 1 month ago
@blyaxamuxin Okay. Since the force will be about 1.2 tonnes (150m long, 2.5m sag, 82 kg weight = ~12 kN of force), you should assume a stretch percentage of roughly 8%. This means that you should leave about 12m for your pulley system, just to be safe.
BalanceCommunity 1 month ago
Does anyone know if 150 meters longline, how many meters I should strech the slackline? I strech 150 meters on 5 meters more =155 meters. It is enough , or to much?
Thanks.
blyaxamuxin 1 month ago
@blyaxamuxin That depends on what kind of webbing you are using. Do you know what the stretch is of your webbing at a particular force? A 150m longline should have around 2-3m of sag, which means you will need roughly 1.1t - 1.4t of tension, depending on your weight.
BalanceCommunity 1 month ago
I say this pulley that appears at 3 minutes and 29 seconds in your video? has a part where the cord attached her name where i can buy?
diogofernandoblockwe 1 month ago
@diogofernandoblockwe It's called a multiplier. Look on Slack Science for an idea of how to set them up. You can purchase them in the Balance Community Shop under Multiplier Kits (sub-category to Pulley Systems).
BalanceCommunity 1 month ago
Hello I wonder what the name of the equipment that you use after blocking the pulley, the pulley that you always have to come back to continue pulling the rope to stretch the line? know?
diogofernandoblockwe 1 month ago
Sick setup!
CuSlackline 1 month ago
How manny meters this slackline? If I do 150 meter, how low the slack should be on the midlle, do you know?
blyaxamuxin 1 month ago
@blyaxamuxin This line is about 70m long. Your questions is a bit vague, but I am assuming you want to know how much sag you need in a 150m line? If so, this totally depends on your style. I like really loose lines, so I put my anchors at about 3m-4m up on the tree and tension the line so I am about .5m off the ground in the middle. Others like tight lines and rig it such that there is about 2m sag. It's all up to you and what kind of gear you have.
BalanceCommunity 1 month ago
Nice setup. What kind of tree protectors are you using? I like the built-in strap.
lostboyd 3 months ago
@lostboyd They are from Landcruising in Germany. They are quite nice and do a great job at holding your slings up while rigging.
BalanceCommunity 3 months ago
I am thinking about running the exact same setup as this video except for having a grigri2 as my brake....i'm new to longlines and was wondering, say that the grigri slipped and being completely tensioned and tyed off, how would i be able to detension the longline? i'm not sure if this ever happens or has happened, i was just curious....
StandingSidewayz 9 months ago
@StandingSidewayz The Grigri 2 is a wonderful option to use as a brake. This will allow you to use smaller rope to make your pulley system significantly lighter. If the rope were to slip (which happens at roughly 2.7 kN of load on the GriGri) and there is a backup tied, then to release tension you would have to take the tail from the knot and run it through the multiplier to add a bit of tension to the system. Then you could untie the knot and release tension as usual.
Hope that helps!
BalanceCommunity 9 months ago
what is connecting the spanset to the rigging plate?
DWebster01 1 year ago
@DWebster01 A 5/8" Shackle.
BalanceCommunity 1 year ago
how strong do the carabiners need to be for a line thats around 500 feet? or does there just need to be one really strong(65kn) one that connects to the line and the rest don't really matter?
DWebster01 1 year ago
@DWebster01 I strongly suggest getting shackles instead of carabiners for any lines that are longer than 300 feet. The forces involved in these kinds of lines is absurd. You should check out some 1/2" or 5/8" anchor shackles.
BalanceCommunity 1 year ago
@BalanceCommunity oh no i meant the carabiner that connects the the line to the pully system. this video shows the line with 2 rings and a carabiner connected to the double pully and i was wondering with all that tension at that carabiner how strong of a carabiner would that need to be?
DWebster01 1 year ago
@DWebster01 Well, the line in this video is only 230 feet long. For a line that is 500 feet long, you should not be using carabiners at this point in the system.
For this 230 foot line, I used an Omega Pacific 72kn steel carabiner, which is more than strong enough. I would suggest something that is stronger than your webbing for a connection point (over 40kn) for lines shorter than 300 feet in length. After this, upgrade to shackles.
BalanceCommunity 1 year ago
Can this can this be used to highline?
Squishy31097 1 year ago
@Squishy31097 Yes it can, but you will still need to add a backup rope/line underneath the webbing.
BalanceCommunity 1 year ago
Very cool video Jerry. Thanks. Very professional.
williamrx7 1 year ago
Nice set-up, I just purchased my first spool of type 18 and now I am doing research on which companies to buy my pulleys from.
Are shackles from the hardware store okay to use, or do they take a little work to get ready to accept webbing without fraying the webbing because of how it was forged?
Do you reccomend C.A.M.P. for the pulleys or petzl?
tbyg7 1 year ago
@tbyg7 You should stay away from shackles from the hardware store. Get yourself some nice, forged, smooth shackles. You can get them pretty cheap on ebay. You should try and get 5/8" because they will fit the webbing perfectly.
For pulleys, you should check out the Balance Community pulley selection , they carry SMC pulleys which are the best of the best. Stick with SMC when it comes to tensioning gear, you will not regret the extra money spent.
slackinjer 1 year ago
what's connecting the spanset to the rigging plate?
dinkeldorf 1 year ago
@dinkeldorf Another shackle. It's a 5/8" anchor shackle.
slackinjer 1 year ago
@slackinjer im relatively new to slacklining and wanted to know wha is so special about type-18 compared to mill spec or climbing grade?
tylerpienta 5 months ago
What are you using for the line lockers there? It looks like you've got the small madrock rap rings as washers on the shackle? Where did you get the 2" ID rap rings?
akdirtbag 1 year ago
@akdirtbag Yea, I am using a modified version of the shackle line-locker kit found on the Balance Community Shop that works on a 5/8" shackle. they have both of those ring sizes in the Balance Community Shop also under rings. The bigger ones are the Mad Rock Large rings and the smaller ones are the Mad Rock small rings.
slackinjer 1 year ago
Hey Jer, What is your opinion on using a gri-gri instead of an I'D. I'm looking at grabbing some SMC double PMPs off of you when I head over to the US shortly (in New Zealand at the moment). I've got a gri-gri as well as some petzl ascenders.
akdirtbag 1 year ago
@akdirtbag The grigri works wonderfully for this setup. I've used grigri's for lines up to 200m long before. It just gets quite hard to open the grigri when you get to higher tensions, this is why I usually suggest the ID over the grigri. But if you are on a budget, stick with the grigri, it will work just fine.
slackinjer 1 year ago
how much rope do i need for pulley sistem to rig a 60 meter longiline?
drm107 1 year ago
@drm107 That really depends on the type of webbing that you are using. If you know the percent stretch that your webbing has, just multiple 60 meters by this percentage to get a distance that you will need to stretch the webbing to get it tight. Then take this distance and multiple it by 5 to come up with the amount of rope you will need for a 5:1 pulley system.
slackinjer 1 year ago
does the petzl RIG work in the same way?
stretchypants711 2 years ago
@stretchypants711
Yea it does actually. The RIG is a smaller I'D without a few of the special features that the I'D has. For instance, the RIG doesn't have the safety cam in case you were to rig the rope backwards...but we really don't need this for how we use it. I'd say that the RIG is a great replacement for the I'D in this setup.
slackinjer 2 years ago
thanks for the how-to...looks good :D
one thing though, i've heard that it's a good idea to set up a back up to prevent the gear from shooting at you at high speed in case of system failure?
mjw666 2 years ago
hey jerry! it's hayley from Yosemite, Thanks so much for posting this video, it's been really helpful. I was having a really hard time figuring this out before!
TheBananagrl 2 years ago
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If thisa slack line my knob's a kipper. Why do you pull a huge amount of tention into a dynamic rope,then stand back give yourself a pat on the back and call it a slackline. Can you point out the slack part of your slackline for me
rockstarnomad 2 years ago
it's called a long line dumbass.... try standing in the middle of a 230' line without tensioning it that much... guess what will happen. You'll be standing on the ground.
There is more than one type of 'slackline' and each type requires a different amount of tension.
Think about it before you post next time.
aclews80056 2 years ago 8
how much does all that gear cost? Approx?
rich991980 2 years ago
dbeland 2 years ago
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dbeland 2 years ago
DIRTBAG MONEY SAVER tips EXTRA:
- use an ATC Guide in Autoblock mode instead of the Petzl ID ($25 vs $225)
- use a prusik instead of the Ropeman ($2 vs $40)
Now it's only $300! Still a lot of money, but most climbers should have many of these things already :-p
dbeland 2 years ago
thank you for posting!!
neikocaroline 2 years ago