Thoughts on The Socratic Method

[RunLiberty]

Ron Paul 2012

[cr500rebuild]

TYPICAL DAY IN LAW SCHOOL: "Prof: Explain Subject Matter Jurisiction." Dumbass 1L: "Uh, isn't is like something about jurisdiction?" Prof: What about jurisdiction? 1L: Not sure. Prof: Next student - can you explain SMJ? "Didn't do the reading." Anyone else explain SMJ? "Uh, does it mean that you have to have jurisdiction to sue?" "Uh, yes, but can you expand?" "Blah blah - wrong answer". Anyone else? "Next dumbass gives partially correct answer. AND SO IT GOES. WASTED TIME

[WARPALORPA]

@cr500rebuild so, what is SMJ?

[cr500rebuild]

@WARPALORPA Subject Matter Jurisdiction - the ability of a court to hear a case and render a decision.

[Volleyjeff]

@cr500rebuild When done correctly, a wise professor can still use the Socratic method even with classes in which most students don't do the required reading or are "slow". The purpose of the method is to institute a series of questions designed to allow the responder to slowly realize they hold the knowledge within. The questions just provide a path to understanding. Your example, while frustrating, is just another example of standard Q&A.

[cr500rebuild]

The Socratic Method is a dumb way to learn anything. A way of thinking? LMFAO. Instead of actually LEARNING the law, you are forced to endure wrong answers, endless chatter and confusion. Even the professors know it is a joke - at the bar exam review, they suddenly just spit out the answers, which would have been great the FIRST time during 1L. What a damn joke.

[Ruckel2008]

@cr500rebuild could you not handle it or something? dumbass.

[cr500rebuild]

@Ruckel2008 Brilliant deduction shit head. Go back to your meditation class and reflect on how fucking stupid you are. If you cannot understand that this method of teaching is nothing but a waste of time, then by all means, sign up for it.

[DarkKnightBob1o1]

@Ruckel2008

took this clown all of a week to come up with an answer.

People who dont understand the value of this method don't know how to reason well.

I severley DOUBT the professors thought it was a bad method.

[cr500rebuild]

@DarkKnightBob1o1 unlike you, I don't live my life on YT. So don't expect a fast reply. Law schools are stuck in a time warp - they started copying Harvard Law (which invented this method about 200 years ago). Most of the professors have never really taught in the real world, or did so long ago, and are functional idiots. Hence, the law school grads don't know shit when they graduate, and need to be taught how to be an attorney. The SM sucks - it just wastes time.

[DarkKnightBob1o1]

lol yeah those philosophers don't know anything do they?

Glad to see you're an authority on something you don't know anything about.

what a moron. The Socratic method was invented by SOCRATES in greece circa 500BC designed to remove error in peoples thinking. Something you're know about if you actually bothered to learn anything.

you clearly know fuck all about what you're on about.

[cr500rebuild]

@DarkKnightBob1o1 YOU FUCKING DUMBASS. I'm talking about philosophers or Socrates, we are talking about whether the SM Is an effective learning tool in LAW SCHOOL. And if you pay attention, you'll notice that the LAW professor asks a bunch of hypos to dumbasses who don't know shit about the subject, WASTING everyone's time. And, when these dumbasses finally graduate, these same professors simply tell them the answers so that they can pass the bar. Geez. You are denser than lead. Idiot.

[cr500rebuild]

@cr500rebuild FOLLOW UP - And if you did know about American law schools, you'd see that there is movement to ABOLISH the SM since it was developed 200 years ago and has not helped turn law school graduates into lawyers with any skills. They graduate and don't know how to file a brief, write a brief, serve a lawsuit, etc. Unlike doctors who actually work on dead bodies, law students just talk about shit from a professor with no practical skills either. THE SM IS A FUCKING JOKE FUCK BOY.

[DarkKnightBob1o1]

you were on of those kids that asked the teacher "sir... how will learning this help us pass the test?"

[Ruckel2008]

@cr500rebuild And your qualifications are? Probably nothing, which means your opinion counts for dick. Where did you go to school? Community college? Did you even make it out of high school? DarkKnight is right. The SM removes error in people's thinking processes. How you get to the answer is just as important as the answer itself. It also forces you to actually know the material before you come to class, in effect making you learn more about the law because you are actually doing the reading.

[cr500rebuild]

@Ruckel2008 LMFAO. My "qualifications?" Top shelf, and I'm not going to identify myself to a passive aggressive internet bitch. You don't "learn more about the law" while in law school - you learn after you graduate, when you suddenly realize that you really don't know "dick." If it really forces people to "actually know the material," then why the FUCK are all these students fucking up the answers? The SM sucks.

[Ruckel2008]

@cr500rebuild I didn't ask for your name. If you are unwilling to state your level of education or your job experience, then it probably means you have nothing. Probably a dumbass teenager with daddy's internet connection.

[cr500rebuild]

@Ruckel2008 I'm no teenager. if you checked out my vids, you would know that dumbass. My academic background would make you envious? But I'm not here to ID myself or my schools. You sound like someone who has NEVER set foot in a law school class, because you would never defend it. The only ones coming to its rescue are obsolete professors jacking off to their greatness. Those in the real world do - those that can't - teach. Ok?

[Ruckel2008]

@cr500rebuild Fine. Sometimes people have to agree to disagree. Good day sir.

[harrybean2006]

At 2:55 the speaker tells the essential truth. No matter how bad you look in class it does NOT affect your grade. The final exam is THE grade!

[batura1]

the essence was in the last sentence, as far as the students are concerned.

[dadada75]

@batura1 in pursuit of knowledge..yes...in pursuit of a paper degree..not so much