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  • I have a deja vu feeling. It reminds me at all those scientists fired for exposing the lie of evolution by not recognizing injtelligent design as immortalized in the Ben Stein's movie "Expelled".

    As in this movie Fox News did not bother to contact any scientific relevant institution for a response.

    Then again, Fox News is not known for being a critical news station. Oh, and I do hope you do not confuse criticism with being critical.

  • Typically FOX this one, and that says a lot. Conservative oil money dependent idiots that deny sound science for their own benefit. Very few people become millionaires on the alarmist side as opposed to the fossile fuel industry. There is no hidden agenda for the green movement, there is for the oil industry though...

  • Climate change news for serious people (oil trolls using sock accounts to spam Youtube need not apply)…

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    State unveils new rule for battling climate change

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    The most controversial piece of California's efforts to battle climate change, a cap-and-trade program for large polluters, was unveiled Friday by the California Air Resources Board just days before the state's voters will decide whether to put the entire effort on hold.

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    San Francisco Chronicle California

    30 October 2010

  • People that believe the global warming swindle are in thrall to Big Brother - it's "1984". People should simply read Climate gate materials. 

  • It is bizarre how americans doubt that global worming is caused by human activity. Statistically, they are the only country in which people massively doubt it, and it is not because they have better information.

  • @AlgeKalipso It's simple. The political left has joined itself at the hip with the alarmist cause. So the majority of conservatives disagree because they hate liberals. And many of the libs believe man made GW because they hate the right but more specifically because the alarmism challenges industry and leftys hate industry, unless it's wind mills and solar panels all linked to hip trendy mac computers naturally.

    So most non-scientist on both sides believe what they want, not what they know.

  • Al Gore's previous policies that he helped to implement when he was VP, was to exaggerate Global Warming if its real. He helped engineer the NAFTA & GATT expansion which, besides destroying multiple tens of millions of good jobs in the US, how did relocating US industry that had Environmental & Human Rights laws to countries that have little to none of either, & then have to ship the junk back here emitting loads of GHG's help reduce GW?

    Al Fraud Gore: Goldman Sachs's point man for the GW scam

  • Hey everybody,

    The CLIMATEDEPOT(dot)com website has some great new articles on all the scandals & malfeasance occuring daily at the IPCC & the GW scam

    Open magazine has "The Climate Change Fraud" on its cover

    The question now is, not that AGW is occuring, but how many people are going to be charged, & is this Al Gore's last flimflam scam?

    Maybe Choo Choo Charlie & Al Gore can do the honorable thing & wrap their heads in Saran wrap & ring Marshal Applewhite for the UFO Taxi Service to Nibiru

  • @Thisawareness Oui, climate change is real? Shame the US spent the last 9 years denying it. Politics aside. (ps george bush jr, stands to inherit at lot of money from his father, the oil man) you think we should do something about it? To late.

    I hope you drown in a oceanic flood.

    Fuctard

  • @silverspirit2001 LOL. How About Al Fraud Gore the oil whore. He has long standing ties to Occidental Petroleum Co. and he also has financial interests with Goldman Sachs scum & Republicans in an OIL DRLLING COMPANY TERRALLIANCE! Hey dumbshit Silvershiit, Gore's company Generation Investment Management alll set to cash in on Cap & Tax has Bush's Secretary of the Treasury (and Goldman Sachs CEO) Hank Paulson

    Are you retarded and or a schill for the Carbon credit lobby?

  • whats next... 911 was a inside job?

  • so you know that already! good to see people getting educated .. you know it's really an inside job my fellow cyber soldier :D

  • it absolutely is a republican democrat issue. democrats want america to be socialist. Vote them out!!!!! this is a scam plain and simple to redistribute wealth on a global scale. It's time to wake up and start handing them their renounce citizenship papers so they can live in the socialist utopia prison of their choice.

  • even someone like me who does not live in the u.s can realize you are total idiot.

    amongs democrats there are plenty fo rich people who only want others to have it alittle better. when are you people gogin to understand that there are many forms of socialism..some moderate some extreme. im all for free trade and smaller government...but you have to think abotu others too.

  • Well if your facts were accurate then you would be right but considering your facts are wrong then you are not right.

    ALL the scientists do not agree. ALL the major research institutions do not agree. In fact quite the opposite.

  • There are approximately 12 scientists who were privy to the research 'data' from which the theory of 'man-made' global warming was based. Those 12 men are now being scrutinized because the 'data' has mysteriously disappeared and the emails have been discovered stating they tampered with their results.

  • This is not a republican vs democrat issue.

  • @facing42 Correct, you shouldn't be listening to what the Republicans and Democrats have to say on this issue. You should be listening to what the scientists and climatologists have to say.

  • @claton95

    I agree, but with a qualifier; you should listen to what ALL scientists and climatologists have to say - NOT just those working for the IPCC/UN.

  • @chiirioz

    Because greed and venal stupidity are outstanding traits in a Republican drone.

    Only Connedservatives can shit in their own nests with such redolent precision, then look stunned as they follow the Dodo down that evolutionary dead-end.

    Oh, wait. They don't believe in "Evolution".....

  • @allieron

    al gore is a democrat, most republicans don't believe global warming, it's the demoncrats that are for global warming, other wise they wouldn't want the cap and tax bill. better get your facts straight.

  • If you are like me and one of the many others out there who is skeptical at the politicians and the so called experts claims that we are all doomed then this is the site for you.

    SEE ACCOUNT FOR LINK TO WEBSITE!!!!

  • You would have to be a fool to believe in man made global warming. The science doen't hold up and when you see the massive government expantion in the name of global warming, the real agenda should be abundantly clear.

  • Fox = crap.

  • Some of us prefer our censored little world that the mainstream media provides for us.

    As someone whose master's work was in meteorology and weather computer modeling, and who follows the science very closely, the censorship (and even false manipulation of data) reported here by Fox (where, unlike the liberal mainstream media, at least they present the argument of both sides) is barely the tip of the iceberg.

  • So what you're saying is you're a weatherman, not a climatologist.

    Next!

  • No. I specialized in numerical weather prediction -- precisely the same physics, equations, and methods used for climate. It's the time scales that differ.

    If I wanted to go into social, rather than physical, science I would have become a climatologist. The greatest volume of peer-reviewed climate research is not done by climatologists.

  • Gore and the other loons who went Washington D.C. the last few months about glabal warming. Had an ice storm and a snow storm each time they bitched about it. Can you say IDIOTS!!

  • Whether global warming is man-made or not is not confirmed. What is confirmed is that outsourcing production activities to China from advanced countries will double the production of carbon dioxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur dioxide, ozone, etc instantly. The fucked up CCP allows factories to use sub-standard power plants to generate electricity from low-quality coal without filtering out the pollutant!

  • Well known CNN personality Lou Dobbs is putting his foot down and making a clear stand on global warming. Not only The Huffington Post but apparently (it appears) CNN is softening it's stance on global warming. A quickly cooling earth is debating quite successfully with Al Gore. Al Gore avoided debating Václav Klaus. But he can't run from the earth. The earth is winning the debate!

    See this YouTube title:

    Lou Dobbs Tonight Reports On Global Warming Jan5, 2009

  • This is a typical post from a AGW theorist:

    "As people die off, the cause of the problem will correct itself. Not everyone will survive, but that's the price we pay for being human.

    The only cure for all the world's problems is to get rid of the human race. But of course we humans are the most stubborn of all species. "

    This is ultimately what leftwing nuts think and they want to use this issue to force this agenda forward, human population control

    god help us

  • This isn't new. Modern scientist are like a cult where if you question certain things, you're kicked out.

    As Al Gore, steals another movie scene for his documentary all I can say is, so much for "science". It's dead.

  • The wordl has been cooling since 2005!

  • This is why Al Gore says it is beyond debate :

    "Let us always remember that he does not really believe his own opinion, who dares not give free scope to his opponent."

    ~Wendell Phillips

  • the things the governemnt have to hold on to just like hiv and aids if there wrong about this how how do you know the treatments for hiv and aids dont cause aids its self

    because azt the first treatment drug out there was a failed cancer drug but it was far to toxic for cancer patients so they maked it off in the 1980's at a fake cure for aids...

  • Peer-reviewed :

    showing computer climate model outputs not matching observation, in other words, what the computer models predict will happen isn't happening :

    Complete PDF available online, read free. From abstract :

    "These conclusions contrast strongly with those of recent publications... Copyright 2007 Royal Meteorological Society.... Received 31 May 2007; Accepted 11 October 2007"

    search :

    International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society [DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651]

  • Why is the truth spammed?

  • i think some people hate truth, maybe thats why.

  • fox sucks

    Here's one for you ignorant naysayers that cling to ANYTHING that supports your opinion. Your debunked Swindle is going down the tubes, AGAIN.

    Google... Channel 4 to be censured for controversial global warming film

    Wake up or continue to consume the corporate propaganda. ALL of the peer reviewed studies and ALL of the scientific institutions conclude that humans are contributing to the warming through the use of fossil fuels. Case closed unless you prefer irrational denial.

  • not proven, its a prediction, no cases are closed, they are guessing.

    cite some sources, how was it proven?

    ALL scientific institutions do not conclude that humans are contributing to global warming.

  • If you can find ONE historically reliable scientific institution that says we humans are NOT contributing please send me a link. I don't think one exists.

    For what our institutions have to say visit the Wiki site below. For the science and research behind their conclusions contact them directly.

    Google...

    Scientific Opinion On Climate Change Wikipedia

    Google...

    BEYOND THE IVORY TOWER: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change

    WeCanSolveIt(dot)org

  • The administrator of the Climate articles on Wikipedia is a member of the British Green party who has no problem wielding his right to suspend contributors he does not like and remove their comments (along with a tag-team of other like-minded contributers). He also suspends the Wiki rules for himself when they are inconvenient to his agenda.

    That is how "consensus" is developed.

  • Wikipedia is designed for failure. It does not represent science. That said, Wikipedia is not reliable, but climate changed caused by human activity is no longer up for argument.

    Your lot denied there was a CFC-Ozone hole connection. Laws and products were changed. Now the Ozone depletion is not the problem it once was.

  • Unfortunately, I'm not part of any "lot" so I'm not tied to any ideology, unlike global warming theists. You need to get out of your censored environment and do some research. The ozone hole has not decreased in mean size in the least (just check the government's own web sites).

    Likewise, the globe has not warmed for about a decade and is actually cooling at present (by all measures--satellite, surface stations, etc.)

  • OH heavenly spaghetti monster. Forgive me for I have read bullshit. Can you please undo the people neglecting scientific facts?

  • Is the Great Spagetti Monster, blessed be his name, the god of global warming theism?

  • You're both sort of right about the Ozone hole.

    It isn't shrinking, but it isn't getting any bigger either.

    CFC's have a REALLY long life in the upper atmosphere. You're looking at 20-25 years or so.

    Seeing how Montreal Protocol was signed about 20 years ago (give or take), we shouldn't expect to have seen much change (other that "it's not getting worse") before now.

    Ozone Hole: Real problem, caused by humans.

    Climate Change: Problem? maybe. Caused by humans? Eh, not so much.

  • I have no argument with the fact that the ozone hole is not getting any bigger (on average)--my point was that the ozone hole problem has not improved as was claimed.

    Presently, ozone depleting gases have declined about 8-9% in the Antarctic stratosphere, yet 2006 was a record year and 2008 was one of the largest ozone holes in its history.

    "Solar proton events" also have an integral role in depletion. To suggest we have all the science solved, even here, is overstating the situation.

  • The only people saying that anthropogenic climate change is no longer debatable are those who have made their and plugged their ears and refuse to believe anything that doesn't fit their hypothesis (both sides do this and it annoys me to no end).

    The ozone hole was never really debated; we had something that we knew we caused. There was a direct cause-effect relationship.

    We should have fixed it and we did.

    Fun note: CFCs and Leaded gasoline were invented by the same guy. Seriously.

  • Interesting. I did think it strange that wiki was locked to real data and comment on climate.

  • So many dipshits, so little time ...

  • No ... it's so many dipshits, so few bullets.

  • Might is right eh there Arthur?

    The next time you think about shooting something, unless you're protecting your home, start with yourself.

    The dipshits will sort themselves out.

  • The video is crap...it has countless flaws and fraudulent statistics.

  • Denial is a river that runs right through capitalism.

  • What RAA conveniently left out is that those same corporations make MORE profit from the status quo of maximizing fossil fuel consumption.

    Even more to the point is that those same corporations fund the campaign to spread misinformation and prevent timely action against climate change.

    youtube. com/watch?v=-br8Yewo9A0

  • That was a beautifully incoherent rant. I'm not going to bother trying to decipher it until you promise to take your medication.

  • It won't help Albright's income, of course, but at least he can take pride in joining Galileo in being shafted by religious bigots. (Global Warming is, we must recognize, among today's religions and is thus not subject to discussion or question in many circles.)

  • Plants use CO2 for growth and produce more Breathable oxygen because of it. Nature definitely needs no help from us. The cycles are simply natural. There is nothing to fear.

  • If the history of the Earth was represented as a 40 story building, the furthest back we can go back in history would amount to a layer of paint on the roof. It's impossible to know if this is just a natural warming curve. Plus, many states are reporting record low temperatures. Not to mention the global cooling scare in the 70's which turned out to be false. So what, all this happened in just over 30 years? Use your brain.

  • For the record, the cooling was predicted because of our use of aerosols, which has decreased markedly in the past 30 years, thus the cooling from the 40s to the 70s stopped, however, our increased CO2 outputs has increased it. As for the increased temperatures in some states, well, not all states get as much sun as Florida (where I am from) and so the increased rain (also caused by CO2) would tend to cool them more. And the warmer temps would make more rain and less snow...sound familiar?

  • "Burning fossil fuels does NOT make Co2" ???

    Wow ... this guy wins the moron-of-the-year prize.

  • "Burning fossil fuels does NOT make Co2" ???

    See the quotation marks? That means it's a DIRECT QUOTE.

    So yes, we do have a moron-of-the-year winner.

  • What happens when you increase temperatures near a water source? Water evaporates and becomes water vapor, which in turn causes increased humidity, which increases rain. Considering more than 2/3 of the earth is a water source and temperatures drop after rain, hmm. And if it's impossible because of weights for CO2 to be in the atmosphere trapping heat--how does a greenhouse work, even in the coldest of winters?

  • Fuck im surprised to see this on FOX of all channels, but they surprise me with shit like the Simpsons anyway,from what ive seen b4 though im surprised any1 can sit in front of it 4 2long

  • Fox has completely left out how the debate over future temperature trends has been going on for decades. How could scientists silence DECADES of research? That's garbage from a bunch of people who not only don't understand science, but don't understand journalism.

  • All this FOX bashimg by people who think PBS,CNN,MSNBC,John Stewart,and Steve Colbert are the guardians of the Truth..FOXNews...A network people actually watch..Their reruns at 2am draw more viewers then CNN,and MSNBC combined

  • got to the "Great Global warming hoax" video by Skyrish99

  • It's too bad that Fox News would try to refute global warming with such a trivial counterexample. The science of global warming is based on thousands of observations that lead to the same result: the CO2 that we've been putting into the atmosphere for the last 250 years is beginning to make large changes in climate and the changes will continue to increase even if we stop generating CO2 now.

  • You know, when I first started teaching about this last month, that was my thought, but if you check your chemistry again, you will find that both CO2 and CO are produced when fossil fuels burn. Furthermore, it will ride water vapor and go into the air, but it is lighter than water itself, so it will not necessarily fall down with rain--some may, but not all. So, your argument is as true as Chris Merchant's claim that global warming was a swindle.

  • I'm still checking on the weight issue, as I don't recall from chemistry that CO2 is 5X heavier than air (which is made of oxygen, nitrogen, and others), however, regarding the catalytic converter--the US has required them on all cars since the 70s so we do produce CO2. I do recall that when I lived in Scotland years ago (1986-1990) that if we imported a US car we had to remove the catalytic converter, so you may be safe in that regard, but the US is not.

  • I've been thinking and checking into the CO2 as a refrigerant, and yes that is true, BUT that is CO2 under pressure (like in an extinguisher, which doesn't really cool but displaces O2). And I'm pretty sure free CO2 in the air is not under enough pressure to be cold, so it won't be a coolant. FYI, simple chemistry, not meteorology.

  • I remember having lots of snow in winter when I was a child here in Belgium, these past 5 years there almost was no snow at all.

    When I look at some fotos from that time I am amazed at how things were back then during winter.

    Lots more floods and rain too now, so in my oppinion there really is something going on.

    Prehaps you need a second Katrina to open your eyes, besides, even if global warming isnt true, theres no reason at all not to be ecological.

    Everything is connected!!!

  • Yeah, everything is connected, especially the global elite which sponsored both Nazis and communists and plans on taxing the very air we breathe.

  • I agree that there is a change in climate, but who are we to say that it hasn't happened before? Scientific models aren't accurate, and are bias and incomplete.

  • Do you have to get hit by the train before you believe it's coming?

  • Aces, I remember some cold winters in Ohio too, and now they don't have them as often--but since they are further north than say Thailand, they don't get as much sun and still have some cold winters. But as you said, freezing rain is much more prevalent than a clean snow. Furthermore, I agree, there is no reason NOT to be ecological and it doesn't make you a "treehugger" just because you want to keep your world clean and as healthy as possible.

  • Reasons to love fox . 1. they are able to channel Josef Goebels from beyond the grave. 2. Guilt free fanasizing about your most sadistic sexual urges. 3. One day you are going to be watching fox and friends when a Ryder truck with OBL behind the wheel comes through the window.

  • Funny; you guys are watching something about science on Fox News.

  • Maybe it is the SUN dammit, the sun has been increasing in magnetic and solar activity for the past 150years. It will soon appear twice as bright than it is now when it hits it's next solar maxum in several years.

  • Hasn't happened yet... why would they attack canada? Canada loves everyone... lol

  • Propaganda(guilty tax), will it win over our minoote time on this planet when the cycles have been happening time and time again?

    Life is periodic, math explains this.

  • al gore used over 500,000,000 tons of carbon dioxide flying around in his private airplane

  • I think global warming is an evil conspiracy to get us to cut down on pollution, recycle, and live cleaner.

  • Fallow the money, I agree with you it is a scam. Carbon taxes for all on the way and oh by the way you will incrementally start to be told how to live. All this nonsense can be traced back to the tee hugger movement and their desire to rid the U.S. of a capitalistic society, ie Socialism , Communism, Marxism. Truly will begin when they start to disarm the law abiding citizens.

  • global warming is fake,no doubt

  • Minilemur-to clarify for you-ice core samples show CO2 and Temp. are related-by natural means (fluctuations in earth's orbit) and others the earth warms and cools, and warmer water holds less Co2 than colder. So no, in the past Co2 doesn't drive climate warming, but that doesn't mean that more Co2 will not change the temp. You are using half truths to make your point.

    AND-Al Gore was already very rich, you think he does this for money? You don't think there are easier ways to make money?

  • No one should view Fox news, because they have the tendensy to show tings from a right wing point of view instead of a balanced point of view.

  • Maybe the other news networks are so far left that Fox only seems to lean right?

  • thank you for recording this. please get a capture or tuner card. :)

  • why are always only the republicans disagreeing on global warming, and in such a vehement fashion?

    because they're making their fucking money by polluting the environment, that's why...

  • How typical of global eco alarmists. Refuse to discuss the science, attack dog the individual with unsubstantiated smears. And repeat the religious mantra.

    I disagree about the cause of global warming and I'm not a republican.

    By contrast Al Gore has made a lot of money out of his junk science.

  • Dude... I'm totally confused. What is happening with this? Is there Global Warming? Is there not Global Warming? I dont get it. Can someone message me and explain or something

  • There is global warming. but humans are not the cause. the polar ice caps on mars are melting, and every planet in the solar system is heating up according to nasa.

  • Ok here is what's going on with global warming. The sun has been very active in the last decade and has heated up the earth. We will be going into a less active period in a few short years in fact it will be off the bottom of the charts in solar inactivity: you can find this on NASA's website. I can keep going on and on but it is better you read for yourself and find the truth out for yourself, so I suggest that you Google the topic global cooling and look under news articles.

  • what the people below dident say to you is that green house gasses ARE directly related to global warming. There are many study's in which they have used ice coars to determine the earths green house gas level [some gas gets trapped in the ice as it freezes] and they have calculated global temperature over a long period of time [i dont really understand how they did it, it was really confusing, compiling allot of different data and junk]

  • flimonkey - yes you're clearly confused. What the ice core data shows is that CO2 rises cannot be the cause of temperature rises since the temperature rises up to 800 years before the CO2 rises.

  • wow, just got this today. what happened 800 years ago is no longer relevant. a rise 800 years ago could have been caused by many other things. however, the rise today, has been clearly graphed to show that the more greenhouse gasses there are, the higher the average temp is. even in an inconvenient truth they mention what u are talking about. its called the mediaeval warm period. the temp. rise during that period is miniscule (around .09 degrees) compared to the whole .5 degrees were up in 2000

  • flimonkey - several corrections - your facts are wrong.

    What happened 800 years ago is highly relevant if what you are trying to prove is a causal link between CO2 and temperature. In short, the history of the planet over many thousands of years shows no causal connection. As for the recent graphs you claim, in fact you obviously haven't even looked at them! Temperatures ris before CO2, and then fall when CO2 rises, and then coincide for about 25 years, and then fall again when CO2 rises.

  • Happy New Year

  • this is so pathetic it disgusts me that polititions would go so low

  • lol

  • Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone

  • Last week the forcast (for this week) in my area was for temps to be in the 40's; they were off by 10 degrees and we're heading down. If they can't accurately predict weekly weather, why should we believe what they're saying about global warming?

  • there's a difference between weather and climatology

  • Current global warming hysteria from idiot like Gore et al., are based on non-scientific data and are meant to scare all into change through guilt. Science shows that the earth has always had flutuations in temperatures - however that is not "sexy" enough for the huge global warming business.

  • Global warming in nothing more than an effort to tax the shit out of everyone!

    Did you know the democrats proposed an apperatus to count how many times cows fart so they can tax the rancher accordingly?

  • Critics get fired for criticism of 9/11. Critics get fired for criticism of Global Warming. The new way to control us is global warming. I wish it was not true.

  • I found it sooo suspicious when Al Gore got the Nobel Prize!! These guys started screwing up the environment when they were in power! Now Clinton Foundation is devoted to "fighting climate change and to end poverty!, which they didn't do when in power. BTW, it was a Rothschild who organised LiveEarth!!

  • And this is some more of the proof that this is a political issue, not a scientific one. This guy was canned because he dissagreed with the polemic and thus threatened funding.

  • The only be change we made to Earth is to build Hoover Dam. Other than that you can film from above and not see any evidence of Man on the landscape. The only thing we done to change the air is a few dozen planes flying here and there. We are a meek race.

  • Global warming will push us into an ice age. Warmer temperatures will cause more water vapor and that will eventually fall as more precipitation...snow. There will end up being more snow in the arctic.

  • Yeah, in the next 50 to 100 thousand years perhaps. I really think there are far more important issues than climate change that need our immediate attention. What is it with people and their morbidly fatalistic obsessions? I just love it how people talk about this issue as if they actually know something, when even climate scientists haven't got a real clue.

  • Did Al Gore or Clinton fight climate change when in power? NOOO. They started screwing up the environment, and Bush continued. There's politics involved in this, e.g. A WORLDWIDE CARBON TAX and a world-level economic entity to collect and administer this tax. Look this up!!

  • See JonThm for climate truth!

  • 15. In 10 years, we will look back on the GW hoax and laugh, much as what happened post Y2K.

  • 9. Largest greenhouse gas is water vapor: it can't be regulated; it isn't on the radar.

    10. "Global Warming" --> "Climate Change" -- but the climate is always changing.

    11. Climate has gone thru cyclic changes since the planet first existed.

    12. GW is perpetuated by hypocrites.

    13. GW is emotion-driven (if you don't do X, then you don't love the planet).

    14. GW is another socialist scheme to control resources, industry, people.

  • Notes:

    1. No scientific concensus exists.

    2. GW backers are funded by gov grants.

    3. Human change on climate is insignificant.

    4. The Temp is rising due to natural events.

    5. CO2 lags temp change by 100-800 years.

    6. Sea levels are rising ~2mm year (insignificant).

    7. Warming is taking place on other planets as well.

    8. Solar activity is a primary driver in climate change.

  • You fools.

    Who has the most to lose if we tackle climate change? OIL COMPANIES. The OIL COMPANIES FUND SCEPTICS.

    READ A BOOK!

    Nasa, The Royal Society, Stephen Hawking, The American Academy of Sciences, Harvard, Yale all agree that this is happening and MAN MADE.

    Whatever your politics, we all stand to lose if these scientists are right. DO THE RESEARCH

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