Brian Ferneyhough: Lemma-Icon-Epigram [with score]

[MrInterestingthings]

listen to that first line on first page and you will find a new way to listen ! This is great committed music. There really is integrity and meaning for me behind the new complexity .This music is hard to remember in order to play but LISTENING much of it sticks and is unforgettable!

[MrInterestingthings]

Looking at this score just fascinates.I have this music on my wall along with some Finnissy. THE NEW COMPLEXITY no doubt!

[spectropirate]

Ferneyhough Swag! God DAMN I love this shit! :)

[groalerable]

@spectropirate

God Damn Fernyough fucked my bitch!

[AfroDeezeeYak]

0:30-0:36 is my favorite part.

[afertyus1000]

@AfroDeezeeYak yes mine is 3.03 -3.42

[Aeon135]

Check out all the "you proles are too stupid to understand this genuis" comments.

Still prefer Philip Glass.

[flammesombres]

@Aeon135 I saw one comment on this thread that said as much, I just deleted it. I don't regret any of the comments I made though, cuz you really do have to be a bit stupid/phenomenally unobservant to believe that this sounds like a dog walking up and down the keyboard.

[AfroDeezeeYak]

@flammesombres THANK YOU

[SecretTheatre]

My first ever page-turning experience was with this piece. Seriously. For James Clapperton (in a workshop, not a concert).

[OriginellerUserName]

I like this piece, but the notation is completely insane. He probably wants the performer's dread to translate into the performance.

[fib112358]

So beautiful.

Comforting.

[chairrest35]

rydubz7. You're really not too bright are you? Who's to say what is good and bad? Who decides what a "real reality" is, as you put it? Please explain why I don't have a right to an opinion.

[rydubz7]

This man has been the head of the composition department at Stanford for many years . Rubbish , Only a ignorant person would call it .Yes it is very complicated especially rythmically (just look at the score) . To even be able to notate this kind of music takes genius . As a composeer I can look at this and get a general idea of whats going on , People only hate when they don't understand .

[rydubz7]

We are not simply liking and not liking machines . They would would want you to think that(They being the advertising agencies and Intelligence) . If you like something that is incorrect that does not make it correct .There is a real reality and it does not care about your opinions . I would even go a step further and say you don't have a right to your opinion . Hitler had a opinion .But it was incorrect . Boom baby ,Suck on that one . Please have a brain if you comment back .

[fizzmeal]

this's awesome :)

[chairrest35]

Why don't people realise that not understanding or liking something does not make it rubbish? All it means is you don't like or understand it. This is not the greatest music ever but rubbish it ain't.

[magnuscroify]

Are people seriously referencing Hegel up here? Really?

[nobodady1]

It may be difficult to understand the appeal of such complexity for a composer, and therefore easy to dismiss it as a pretense, or an attempt on his part to place himself in an elite position. But this doesn't pass the smell test for me. Composing and performing these works requires enormous discipline and utter devotion. Aren't pretentious persons attracted to simpler gestures at baffling us? I think so. I believe this work is utterly serious, and the complexity has a serious purpose.

[thecabe]

Really do not understand the meaning of all this. What does the composer with such complexity when read and executed this piece?

I understand that music can not be all like Beethoven, but that feeling or that ideas inspired by the composer with such works?

Please explain, is not a stupid criticism.

[egapnala65]

@thecabe There is no "meaning". It just is. Like the Hegelian philosophy it sprang from. Impressive sounding high faluting bullshit from start to finish. An explosion in a CGI factory would have more essential substance than this pretentious crap. We are supposed to all be in awe at the sheer level of intellectuality and musical depth on display here. Of course, if Ferney was so profound he would not be quite as prolific. Special effects do not a movie make.

[thecabe]

@egapnala65 I perfectly understood hahahahah

[egapnala65]

@thecabe The other thing you need to understand about Ferneyhough freaks is just how sensitive they are. Another propagator of this pretentious shit (John 11)has actually blocked me from his videos for having actually read my way through the whole of Hegel and not being fooled by his references to the "Aesthetics." Cowards all.

[rydubz7]

@egapnala65 I agree . Special effects do not a movie make . Shmuck .

[MarulanChristianDior]

Is this the fashion of the eighties, I don't remember any recent concerts of such modern music; not is Europe, anyway.

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Cheers

from,

del-boy.

[MarcheseCadmio88]

A lot of the people think that classical music is always "something like Mozart or Beethoven" (la-la-làaa...). They just don't realize that classical music of today evolved, ehm... just a little bit since XIX century, and during the XX century the fundamental basis of composition have changed completely. If a bunch of ignorants didn't read a single book about evolution of modern music, well... this is not Ferneyhough's fault.

[shipitintheremate]

@64andyjh

its called moment form BITCH!

[64andyjh]

Is he serious????? Sounds like he let his dog walk up and down the keyboard. This man is a charlatan.

[flammesombres]

@64andyjh Don't be such a fucking idiot.

[kingofkillings]

@flammesombres Oh yeah!

[FINKELANDPOLL]

@64andyjh shut up

[MarulanChristianDior]

@64andyjh

Don't be silly, Andy; dogs can't do any percussion, they're no good at scratching strings, etc.

[OriginellerUserName]

@64andyjh That must be an incredibly agile & disciplined dog

[el89us]

Too much reverb, sometimes pedal! It obscures a lot of details. Also, at times it seems the pianist is disregarding the notated rhythm, while this is a little understandable, going faster when the notation says to go slower is just terrible.

[TheProgThinker]

@el89us I completely agree. There are times that I am so disappointed when some of the less complex rhythms are played too fast/slow but I guess we can't expect humans to be supercomputers...don't mind the pedal though, it makes the texture become more dense sometimes and less dense other times so there is variety.

[aculturemind]

@el89us

Where is interpretation of the performer in this?

[Bagas]

damn this shit is so hum-able

[allegramente5000]

glacial,brilliant. It's one of the Ferneyhough's most 'classical' compositions.

It's the sort of piece which Pollini might think about taking on board.

[ouchjars]

sfortississzando?

[dddtl]

The notes! They all run together!

[burningled]

It's beautiful music, but my god -- It looks like he wrote the score actively attempting to piss off every pianist who tried to read it. He probably was, now that I think about it -- Makes the piece that much more of a challenge to overcome.

That only makes this pianist that much more impressive and awe-inspiring to listen to.

[miiwiiplay]

sight-read this creature.

[vonklingelfeld]

absolutely sublime and fascinating work ! A very subtile interpretation here ... Thank you for sharing it with us ...

[MusicaRicercata]

Beautiful.

[fcyeznikian]

one of the most beautiful version here and how nobile !

[albachteng]

ferneyhough heaven, complete with face-melting score