Gay pride these days is a lot less about getting accepted and more about just celebrating diversity – lots of straight people go to Pride events (especially big ones like Brighton, although perhaps this won't be the case anymore now that they're charging people for attending).
The reason we originally did Gay Pride was to get attention, etc, and that was always going to be done in the most flamboyant way ever. These days, however, we mostly just do it because it's fun. Why stop partying?
Although I follow your point, and it makes sense, but I think you've rather missed the point. I'm not just proud of being gay, but I'm proud of being flamboyant, camp, eccentric and nerdy. I'm not going to try to be low key just because not all gay people are like me.
Equally I never said that anyone should stop being themselves, however I wonder whether showing it off in pride events is the best thing. I would hate to see people stop being themselves, but (even if it is not true, and is only seen from everyone outside those who often attend) events like these don't really show our true diversity within our culture.
@OhLookJayDee But going to gay pride is *part* of what I enjoy doing and therefore part of me. I agree that it doesn't show the *true* diversity in itself, but equally what how many events can ever succeed in doing that? It shows diversity by being different to other things.
That's exactly what I'm saying, it shows us being different to everyone else, and that's the thing, all I'm asking is whether we should keep showing us being different. All I pose is whether it's something that actually helps us.
But I really don't doubt it's a great thing to go to, and there's part of me that's pleased we have something like this. But I DO ask whether it helps us by setting ourselves out from hetrosexuality, when we can say it's all on a continuum esp
I know it's not the intention to get accepted, but a by-product of, and I didn't just mean pride events, but most things - is that it affects how people view us as a community.
Equally why some people don't like African American events, I am unsure on pride events, as although it's celebrating diversity, it's neither seen that way as most people (I am someone who hasn't attended, and that's how it's viewed by people who haven't gone), and yes it separates us more.
Oddly enough, not only did I attend gay pride, I did so alongside Peter, Alex AND Morgan. And all of us utterly failed to mention this in our respective videos, *headdesk*
I completely agree with you. I have never been to a gay parade and I don't think I will ever be. And I don't think gays that are more manly are going to those events. People are different, some don't like any of this, they just want to live their life in peace.
I think that you are saying and I agree is that if we want equality and acceptance we cant separate our selfs like we have been doing. It is important to have voice but maybe we are addressing the stereotypes in our direction our selfs.
Gay pride these days is a lot less about getting accepted and more about just celebrating diversity – lots of straight people go to Pride events (especially big ones like Brighton, although perhaps this won't be the case anymore now that they're charging people for attending).
The reason we originally did Gay Pride was to get attention, etc, and that was always going to be done in the most flamboyant way ever. These days, however, we mostly just do it because it's fun. Why stop partying?
TheProfessor1ef2es 11 months ago
Although I follow your point, and it makes sense, but I think you've rather missed the point. I'm not just proud of being gay, but I'm proud of being flamboyant, camp, eccentric and nerdy. I'm not going to try to be low key just because not all gay people are like me.
TheProfessor1ef2es 11 months ago
@TheProfessor1ef2es
Equally I never said that anyone should stop being themselves, however I wonder whether showing it off in pride events is the best thing. I would hate to see people stop being themselves, but (even if it is not true, and is only seen from everyone outside those who often attend) events like these don't really show our true diversity within our culture.
OhLookJayDee 11 months ago
@OhLookJayDee But going to gay pride is *part* of what I enjoy doing and therefore part of me. I agree that it doesn't show the *true* diversity in itself, but equally what how many events can ever succeed in doing that? It shows diversity by being different to other things.
TheProfessor1ef2es 11 months ago
@TheProfessor1ef2es
That's exactly what I'm saying, it shows us being different to everyone else, and that's the thing, all I'm asking is whether we should keep showing us being different. All I pose is whether it's something that actually helps us.
But I really don't doubt it's a great thing to go to, and there's part of me that's pleased we have something like this. But I DO ask whether it helps us by setting ourselves out from hetrosexuality, when we can say it's all on a continuum esp
OhLookJayDee 11 months ago
@TheProfessor1ef2es
I know it's not the intention to get accepted, but a by-product of, and I didn't just mean pride events, but most things - is that it affects how people view us as a community.
Equally why some people don't like African American events, I am unsure on pride events, as although it's celebrating diversity, it's neither seen that way as most people (I am someone who hasn't attended, and that's how it's viewed by people who haven't gone), and yes it separates us more.
OhLookJayDee 11 months ago
@OhLookJayDee Straight people do go. I think it's a lot different to what people think it's like. You should go to one, it's good fun.
TheProfessor1ef2es 11 months ago
Oddly enough, not only did I attend gay pride, I did so alongside Peter, Alex AND Morgan. And all of us utterly failed to mention this in our respective videos, *headdesk*
anonymousdeity 11 months ago
I completely agree with you. I have never been to a gay parade and I don't think I will ever be. And I don't think gays that are more manly are going to those events. People are different, some don't like any of this, they just want to live their life in peace.
I think that you are saying and I agree is that if we want equality and acceptance we cant separate our selfs like we have been doing. It is important to have voice but maybe we are addressing the stereotypes in our direction our selfs.
clpaivas 11 months ago