A battery that has expired will get a small increase in voltage when it is warmed. That's how the watch trick works, they take the watch in their hand, and thus warm the battery.
uri made a lot of money out of his tricks, too much money, wouldn't you think he'd have retired into obscurity by now. No because these shysters are actors and crave the limelight at any cost, including ditching ethics to have an admiring audience. Like the prospect of going to jail for normal peple they will lie & deny the crime like uri lies to keep famous. Don't they say fame is a drug. Shysters they should all be sent to jail I think. hehe
Uhm yeah....some proof *rolls eyes*. First of all don't believe skeptics unless you have seen it in real yourself....2nd this Randi or whatever his name is is just hungry for media attention bashing someone like Uri cuz he became famous by the gift that he has. 3rd Uri never said that his powers work all the time....I know someone who does Reiki and he even says his gift doesn't always work properly. Check facts over media rubbish.
How does that have anything to do with Christianity? But I am with you, I am getting tired of corrupt shysters. I think the world has had enough of these guys at all levels of society.
Uri Geller and all these mediums like James Van Praagh and John Edward all say that there is a heaven or a spirit world and they get their psychic powers from beyond or some other bullshit like that...THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THESE CON ARTISTS ARE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE...THAT'S WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY. Atheists are not STUPID enough to believe in this fucking bullshit...I wish they came up with a curse word to describe these fuckers because "pieces of shit" doesn't quite describe them
Christians don't follow that nonsense. Pseudo Christian sure. Just because a fan puts on a Knicks jersey doesn't mean they play for the Knicks. That road is narrow. Your anger has got you so fogged you can't even think straight. Atheists are so smart sure? Communism only allows atheism, why? "Because they are so smart? On the contrary they are far more malleable, and it is easier to convince them that their leader is God. Ironic huh. The Christian won't follow man so easily.
Christians won't follow man so easily? How about 1.2 billion Catholics following the Pope? LoL! How about the Muslims following the Ayatollah Khomeini and other clerics? The rest of the religious people (i.e. Christians) follow the words of a God..IF AND ONLY IF God existed (which IT does not) then how the fuck would you know what "God" is saying? You read the bible? Oh yeah, a book written by men, is the best source of information...a book that tells u it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery
I am no fan of the Catholic Church, when it comes to the Catholic Church, I take Martin Luther's position, He left. Remember the road to salvation is narrow.
You parrots are always squawking the same myopic nonsense. 2000 years ago the economy wasn't modern. It was generally a poor society, some people had to offer up their children to wealthy people or they wouldn't survive. The bible only mentions how they should be treated. Try to think a little deeper angry guy.
LMFAO! A Christian telling me to "think"...you're the dumb fuck who believes in imaginary people, you're the one who lacks the capacity for intellectual thought, and you are the one that fails to acknowledge the contradictions and the logical fallacies in the bible that obviously prove that it was written by a bunch of dumb fucking people...and you're telling ME to THINK? LMFAO! You're pathetic.
You poor angry thing. The Creationist clearly has the advantage. He believes in science, the scientific method & logic. He is humbly grounded by scripture & understands the workings of the spiritual world. The atheist rest everything on science, which has them operating in an inferior one-dimensional world view. But in your mind it's the Creationist who's got the stick in their "progressive" spokes. Where is your logic? The establishment has poured billions of $ to have you thinking this way.
Thank You...nice to see the whole world is not full of fucking morons...I'm not even going to respond to that idiot anymore...he's too stupid for me to waste my time with him.
Because it is a system of behavioral control, and so is theism.
They see theism as a rival power base which indoctrinates people into a different and incompatible worldview.
In governments where theism is compatible with the state's indoctrination (hierarchical, irrational, aggressive, anti-science) like Iran, the state and the religion become one and the same.
I'll simplify my point. The atheist mind is likely to view man as God. A Christian for example views God as God and man as man. Meaning that a Communist nation or New World Order needs the atheist mind to make it workable.
All you need to do is see some file of a funeral of such communist leaders, the line to their precession are miles long. These weren't life's most generous men.
"All you need to do is see some file of a funeral of such communist leaders, the line to their precession are miles long. These weren't life's most generous men."
And how exactly does (probably enforced) state funeral equal godhood?
Has anyone claimed Stalin was omnipotent or created the universe?
No.
This is the danger of religious indoctrination. It usurps the victims reason and prevents them from seeing the world in anything other than its own terms.
The Establishment through the foundations, have spent Billions of dollars over the last 70 years indoctrinating you and much of society to you think the way you do. They need Orwellian Drones for this future, and you sir, are one. Money well spent.
Trying to catch your attention, since you try to ignore that question.
And you're still not answering it. All you've done is to say how sane and intelligent you are. Self-aggrandizement does nothing to address the question.
What is the process of though you go through when deciding on the veracity of something?
What attributes are shared by true claims and absent from false ones?
He may have managed to fool a few gullible scientific researchers in the 70s.
"people believe what they want to believe regardless of what is most likely"
So - what's most likely - that a magician (that's what he did for a living), who has been caught many times on camera cheating , and whose tricks have been successfully replicated by admitted magicians, has psychic powers, or that our understanding of how the world works, based on centuries of research and experiment, is completely wrong?
cosmicjazzer is not really a Geller believer. No one could be that gullible in the face of so much evidence. The alpha project people studied Randi's planted magicians for YEARS and determined they were genuine. Yes, the researchers can be fooled. I can see why Randi must spend day and night pounding his head against a brick wall.
Another example of a test performed on Geller at Stanford university. A drawing was placed in a sealed envelope which was then placed in a safe. Geller still received the image perfectly.
It's so easy to jump to conclusions based on present day beliefs (or 'disbeliefs') rather than the facts. Someday these beliefs will hopefully evolve!!
Very much points to Geller being for real. He has been tested very carefully by reputable scientists, over and over...
Just one example: Geller bent a key belonging to Professor Victor Weisskopf while Weisskopf was holding it, thereby precluding Randi's 'explanation' that Geller achieves key bending by 'ratcheting' an already bent key.
It seems that people believe what they want to believe regardless of what is most likely. The devil is in the detail. What is most likely is actually that Geller is genuine. He has demonstrated his abilites under strict lab conditions. So while there HAS been proof of his abilites, no one has ever PROVED him a fake.
He may have managed to fool a few gullible scientific researchers in the 70s.
"people believe what they want to believe regardless of what is most likely"
So - what's most likely - that a magician (that's what he did for a living), who has been caught many times on camera cheating , and whose tricks have been successfully replicated by admitted magicians, has psychic powers, or that our understanding of how the world works, based on centuries of research and experiment, is completely wrong?
Well I'm very familar with the work of some these 'gullible researchers' (eg. Gary Schwartz ) and it would be very out of character for their procedures to allow any POSSIBILITY of cheating... I've personally experienced all sorts of psychic happenings so know such things can occur, even if they may also be faked...Hopefully our understanding of the way the world works has not reached a full stop... Cutting edge science is now having to accept 'mind over matter'...
I have seen this vid about Schwartz as well as read the opinions of his critics etc. I do not know the truth as regards these particular allegations but suspect there is much more to the story than what is presented. I would want to hear both sides...
As for the Carson show, it is perfectly understandable that Geller would fail in that environment of disbelief and super high pressure. I know from experience that the really amazing psychic manifestatioins occur when one is very relaxed, not trying too hard and in a light hearted frame of mind...
Speaking of Blaine: "Uri bent a spoon for me, the first time he did it, I thought there must be a trick. The second time I was stunned, completely, completely stunned and amazed. It just bent in my hand. I've never seen anything like it. It takes a lot to impress me. Uri Geller is for real and anyone who doesn't recognise that is either deluding himself, or is a very sad person." - David Blaine, (American Magician. Star of ABC's Television Specials.)
Well... I thank you for your enlightened opinion! I don't know where I'd be without this amazing insight...
It is my opinion that investigating what we really are, the nature of reality etc. is ultimately more useful than just about ANYTHING else. What value has life if devoid of meaning...
For that reason, investigating (more experientially than theoretically) the psychic, the mystical, altered states, alternative science, philosophy etc. has indeed been my focus for (actually) 27 years.
All of Randi's 'debunking' has actually been of this speculative variety when it comes to Gellar. Some of Randi's other work has been useful however (Popoff...)
Why, there are some videos where some of simpler tricks are actually revealed, like him using a standard gimmick of a thumbpiece with a magnet, and the spoonbending is on some recordings a little bit more revealing than on others. Geller is obviously proficient at sleigh of hand, and if he is lying about some of his abilities, then why not about others?
I looked at that video and saw him put his thumbs together at one point. It's really laughable that people claim this as proof he was cheating. It proves nothing - one way or the other.
By the way, I know someone (very well)who can do similar to Gellar. I've seen him move a compass needle with his mind plus VERY much more, some of which is beyond any possibilitly of cheating. Try it. You just might be able to yourself you know...
I understand there is much small print in the Randi offer which essentially means he can choose not to pay if he doesn't want to! Also, psychic manifestations are to some degree dependant on there being a supportive atmosphere (though the demonstrations can still be scientifically controlled) and I can't see Randi providing that!
First off..I dont want ro offend you just writing my own opinion...
To educated people you sound like a moron..
You CANT move needles with your mind! :D
Criss angel , David Blane , and the master of all "magicans" David Copperfield have all admit that EVERY SINGLE show is a trick! They let ppl see what ppl wanna see through intelligence and often simple tricks! And btw its Uri Gell"ER" not gellar
OF COURSE I'm very well aware that all these things CAN be faked - and usually are! But I suggest you do some proper research before brashly making such statements as "You CANT move needles with your mind!" You can, actually!
I think that it sad that people's first response is to rubbish that which is outside of their immediate experience...
I should have better checked my writing before i was judging about yours my friend :D
If you really have been studying psychic phenomena for 20 years then I better shut my mouth! Because Im only 22 and I have been studying only 4 years in uni (And i thought that was long :D)...I just think that geller is a cheater and that he should better tell the truth! He made enough money with this stuff so i think its pathetic saying that he has phenomenal mental power!! :D
Ha ha! Well, who knows, Geller might be less than legit... I'm not so much defending Geller here as the existence of such phenomena. I've seen some amazing things so know they can happen at times.
I must sayI AM somewhat offended and frustrated by your remarks. (It's SUCH a cliche, you see...) At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, I've been studying psychic phenomena for over 20 years so contrary to your assumption am hardly uneducated in this area. In previous posts I've made references to a book plus good research into mind over matter. I suggest you START there if you are really interested in getting to the truth...
As for why Gellar might SOMETIMES resort to trickery, this would be simply because of the huge pressure to produce a result when such manifestations of mind over matter can never be guaranteed, even by the most gifted practitioners... But I'm on the fence when it comes to Gellar himself... it's the possibility of such manifestations that I'm defending here.
I'm not taking a side as far as Gellar himself is concerned (though I suspect he is sometimes for real) but it must be said that Randi pointing out how something could be faked is not at all the same as proving it was faked. NEVER has he truly proved that Gellar is a fake.
I guess it's never been proven that Elvis is dead, either... so he must be alive! It's never been proven that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon... so he must not have!
Sorry... I was rather getting on my high horse in the last post... But as someone who has had countless psychic experiences it seems rather ridiculous that the whole thing is in debate at all.
I find the cliches that are being expressed here quite staggering in their ignorance. I suspect they can only be the outcome of a lack of first hand experience of this subject. May I also add: Princeton University have spent about 25 years researching and verifying this stuff (PEAR project) and their work certainly meets normal scientific conditions... And then of course there's Stanford university. I am completely in favour of strict controls btw. It's the small mindedness that's the problem...
Isn't it convenient that skepticism and experimental controls "blocks" psychic ability?
I can't believe people still buy that arguement. Let's say for a minute that it's true that psychic abilities exist.. they have absolutely no use. They have no application other than "oohs and ahhs" because as soon as it matters, it doesn't work.
Is he a bad person? does he deserve to be humiliated? people like peter were doing wrong but what was uri gellar doin wrong?
Inverted Chords.
No he was doing nothing wrong. Only claiming he had psychic powers when he didn't. Only fraudulently stealing people's money who wanted to see his 'psychic powers' (which he doesn't have at all) in action. A CON MAN thats all he is. He has been found cheating numerous times. But i'll shut up now because he really does have psychic powers doesnt he!...
2) Not outright, but if you claim to be able to do something you can't and waste people's time and money for a lie, you do indeed deserve humiliation. It's called poetic justice.
3) Yes, he was. He's lied and has even sued James Randi in court for revealing him. He's tried to scare an elderly man from using his freedom of speech by hiding under the pathetic claim that James Randi is lying about his abilities. Geller has been seen cheating.
I was involved with a Dutch show TV production of the for my work as floor-technician.I met Mr.Geller personally backstage and saw he was preparating 3 different particular spoons and tiny mirrors that were made of a weak alloy witch could be easily bend.
Our producer said it was highly classified due to contracts.
Later on I heard that no one in the live broadcasting should mention the name of James Randi.Of course I wondered why?
I like cosmic's tactic of not offering any evidence and yet claiming that he is right anyways. Typical closed minded moron. He's so closed minded he was never open to reality but will cling to fantasy as strong as possible even when he is shown he has no reason for his beliefs.
I like how these closed minded fucks call the people who are actually open to reality closed minded.
Excuse me ramdillian but I DID point in the direction of some very good studies (McTaggart book). My reason for not revealing my own (irrefutable) experiences of psychic phenomena was simply that there is a space limit which does not allow me to go into the detail and it is the detail that is important as I'm sure you would agree. It is ironic that you are accusing me of close-mindedness! I have never had any need or desire to believe. I would suggest you try and write without using expletives.
You dumbass. A non scientific book is not evidence. Give us references to scientific information published by a peer reviewed journal or shut the fuck up.
You seem unable to write without using insults and expletives...
But to answer your point, if you read the book you will see that some of the studies mentioned do fulfil the criteria you require. In any case, it is horrendously difficult to get proper investigation of psychic phenomena as so many minds are so closed. The cress seed experiment I mentioned was dismissed by 'Nature' BEFORE being read on the grounds that it 'can't be true, therefore it isn't'! How scientific is that?!
Your job is to give us the studies and the journal references they were in- you seem to be incapable of defending your bullshit arguments. Referral to a non scientific book is failure, as I've said before.
Also, Nature is not a scientific journal, so you don't even have a clue what you're fucking talking about. Get an education and then get back to us when you grow up.
Er, first I suggest you Google 'Nature' and you'll see that it IS a scientific journal! Secondly, I've made reference to the PEAR project which was ongoing for over 20 years at Princeton university. Thirdly, there is much VERY sound science in McTaggarts book along with many references to experiments into mind over matter. And, if I may, I'm wondering if you're capable of writing without using expleteves. Try it. You might like it!
I'm not even saying that Geller is always 100%legit btw., rather that this stuff can genuinely happen and to some people it happens very frequently. I have witnessed phenomena that could not be faked.
I fear that no matter what I say you will probably just fall into the cliche of trying to refute it. There is not the space here to provide the necessary detail and 'the devil is in the detail.'
I've studied this area for most of my life and I am actually not much in favour of yer average psychic. The problem is a common tendency to superimpose concepts that don't belong.
If the scientific world was more intellectually honest then tedious discussion about basics would not be necessary!
look, gellar has never been legit, anyone who's ever had a so-called psychic ability has been disproven at some point. The best way to prove your legit, is to actually prove it
I have no personal experience of Gellar but I do know someone who can produce Gellar type phenomena. There is simply no possibility of trickery in some of the things I've witnessed and had happen to me personally...
I am very aware that many people believe what they want to believe. It is a pet hate of mine! I'm also very aware of what conjury can achieve. As far as 'rationality' goes, a study of quantum phenomena sheds some light on psychic type manifestations and makes them appear much more 'rational'! And much that was considered rational and scientific 100 years ago is outmoded now. Many think that 'science' has now essentially got a complete overview... Imo it has hardly begun...
your talking about supernatural things, not science. i'm sure you thought you did/saw something but it was probably just a manifestation of your own imagination... or our crazy
yeah! your an idiot, or insane... maybe both. the theories of quantum mechanics are too numerous and debated that any thing you ever heard could be a theory of a possible 200 diffrent ones. IT's your imagination or a magic trick. Don't be so gullible
Well thank you for your polite response!! I'm sorry but it is not me who has a mental problem here... I suggest you do some proper research before jumping to a conclusion.
what you are an idiot from how it sounds. Quantum mechanics maybe a breakthrough science but not a proven one due to the lack of a universal theory. it's magic tricks, deal with it
I have huge experience of psychic phenomena and I'd say that out and out fakes are rare. What is more common is a little amount of ability combined with a lot of wishful thinking... But this is not to negate the huge ability that some individuals do have.
It is not that 'physics is wrong' btw, more that science is hopefully still maturing and 'facts' are very often revised.
I dislike Randi! Psychic work needs focus and a supportive atmosphere - he definitely doesn't provide that!
Well it is only your assumption that this phenomenom has 'no legitimate foundation'. I know from personal experience that such things can and do happen (and I am not a person who WANTS to believe).
Actually, there IS plenty of hard evidence but I think there are too many closed minds for it to be widely acknowledged... Have a read of 'The Intention Experiment' by L McTaggart for refs to proper studies into the incredible power of thought... Another thing, psychic manifestation, by its very nature, demands a supportive atmosphere and that certainly isn't to be found in someone like Randi!!
If there was plenty of 'hard evidence' this wouldn't even be disputed. If there was evidence that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that people have paranormal abilities, then they certainly haven't come forth with it.
There are MANY proper studies that provide hard evidence. The problem is the closed minds within the 'scientific' world. I know a gifted psychic who provided conclusive evidence in SIX double blind experiments performed in strict lab conditions by a uni professor, but the scientific community dismissed it BEFORE knowing the facts. My psychic friend made pre-poisened cress seeds germinate. (Those poisened seeds that did not receive his energy died!) That's just the tip of the iceberg btw...
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I think it very naive to dismiss all psychic phenomena as fake. The real problem is the superstition that surrounds genuine psychic occurences, often unwittingly magnified by the practitioners...
Another problem of course is that no physical phenomena actually exists unless you propose that physics is wrong, in which case you need some kind of evidence in order for your theory to stand. As it is, the best evidence you have is false, and in fact university paranormal departments these days are devoted not to ESP but to exposing fakes, which is all that they or anyone else has ever found this phenomena to be. The best way to understand it is as con tricks posing as reality.
You are in error. (I assume you meant that no psychic phenomena exist etc..)
Developing physics easily allows for 'paranormal' phenomena. A little imagination is all that is required (and Einstein thought imagination is more important then knowledge)
Well yes, Einstein believed that imagination was very important. However the line between polemic and hypothesis, and scientific theory (aka law or principle), is very significant. Physics does not find ESP of any kind, the sorts of entanglement we can produce are extremely fragile nature is cleverer than us but she is also always much more elegant too
Not so sure about that. Physicists have not seriously explored ESP yet because there are few hypotheses to test. Theory, however, does raise some tantalising possibilities, particularly concerning communication and additional dimensions, not to mention the current thinking about the nature of time.
By the way, I am no supporter of Uri Geller and his party tricks, but I am aware that all we perceive is not all that there is.
Unfortunately, most people WANT to believe in things they know are not true, because it gives them comfort. They will also deny those things that prove their beliefs are false for the same reason.
Your inclusion of Obama in your list completely invalidates the rest of your argument. It is an attempt at an argument by induction, a cheap shot and everyone can see this. makes you look like a dishonest fool.
Many people already been fool by Geller, hope everyone will be more rational and logical and skeptical in thinking, because people like Geller are using con man tactics to earn money.
If many people still choose to believe then infuture more con man will be able to earn money easily.
James Randi i totally agree, Psychics does not exist in this world, Psychics are fake, the people who claims they have Psychics power they are as worst as Satan because they are con man.....
There is something feeble & a little comtemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths.
You don't believe that there may be as of yet unknown forces at work in the universe, but you believe that there is an invisible, horned, spiritual being that causes people to do bad things? HAHAHAH
the aliens that give him his powers are trying to create a large group of people that are absolutely certain that there's no such thing as psychic or the soul or god, etc.
geller is a fony,i would like to beat him on d head with a big fuk off spoon and bend it.
3rk4u 3 months ago
geller rapes babies!
sethmusic 6 months ago
while you post he is counting money
ivogrzetic 8 months ago
Geller figured that if enought people missed the illusion and believed him, he'd get rich. They did and he did. End of story
Coastlinewalk 11 months ago
Geller is an insult to every thinking being on this planet.
baseballplayer1251 1 year ago
Charlatan!
hartistry1957 1 year ago 2
Didn't anyone ever wonder...Uri Geller claimed to possess the ability to bend metal but all that he would bend were lousy spoons? SPOONS?
andyrooney11 2 years ago 6
Geller is a twat
dave787 2 years ago 15
he should have worked for FIDO customer service
JonahPasion 2 years ago
i will make no further comment on this issue
no1dagboy 2 years ago
Haha he got destroyed years ago by Johnny Carson
SodiumCyanide 2 years ago
@SodiumCyanide and ppl still believe this idiot
weskeeey 1 year ago
lol @ the end!
Humiliation!
skacannon 3 years ago
Oh you dirrrty bas! You got him!!
icecreamandsingasong 3 years ago
A battery that has expired will get a small increase in voltage when it is warmed. That's how the watch trick works, they take the watch in their hand, and thus warm the battery.
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jcgmed 3 years ago
Ok, watch this...
Wait.. this is hard..
I quit..
But, remember viewers, I'm still magic! Lol.
TheXeno16 3 years ago 3
uri geller, mongolian. XD
j1otd 3 years ago
uri made a lot of money out of his tricks, too much money, wouldn't you think he'd have retired into obscurity by now. No because these shysters are actors and crave the limelight at any cost, including ditching ethics to have an admiring audience. Like the prospect of going to jail for normal peple they will lie & deny the crime like uri lies to keep famous. Don't they say fame is a drug. Shysters they should all be sent to jail I think. hehe
Elibobbob 3 years ago 2
what a faggot!
journeyandrushfreak 3 years ago
stupid diskettes those were laaaame!
blindreaper21 3 years ago
Uri Geller is a big human form FAKE.fooling the world that he is a big spoon bender or has God power.AH a stupid Fool
Pisces4Ocean 3 years ago
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Uhm yeah....some proof *rolls eyes*. First of all don't believe skeptics unless you have seen it in real yourself....2nd this Randi or whatever his name is is just hungry for media attention bashing someone like Uri cuz he became famous by the gift that he has. 3rd Uri never said that his powers work all the time....I know someone who does Reiki and he even says his gift doesn't always work properly. Check facts over media rubbish.
Cheetah4MJ7 3 years ago
What a fraud!
the fake healer getting caught was great. Another reason why Christianity is a farce
mysticme27 3 years ago
How does that have anything to do with Christianity? But I am with you, I am getting tired of corrupt shysters. I think the world has had enough of these guys at all levels of society.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
Uri Geller and all these mediums like James Van Praagh and John Edward all say that there is a heaven or a spirit world and they get their psychic powers from beyond or some other bullshit like that...THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THESE CON ARTISTS ARE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE...THAT'S WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH CHRISTIANITY. Atheists are not STUPID enough to believe in this fucking bullshit...I wish they came up with a curse word to describe these fuckers because "pieces of shit" doesn't quite describe them
andyrooney11 3 years ago
Christians don't follow that nonsense. Pseudo Christian sure. Just because a fan puts on a Knicks jersey doesn't mean they play for the Knicks. That road is narrow. Your anger has got you so fogged you can't even think straight. Atheists are so smart sure? Communism only allows atheism, why? "Because they are so smart? On the contrary they are far more malleable, and it is easier to convince them that their leader is God. Ironic huh. The Christian won't follow man so easily.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
Christians won't follow man so easily? How about 1.2 billion Catholics following the Pope? LoL! How about the Muslims following the Ayatollah Khomeini and other clerics? The rest of the religious people (i.e. Christians) follow the words of a God..IF AND ONLY IF God existed (which IT does not) then how the fuck would you know what "God" is saying? You read the bible? Oh yeah, a book written by men, is the best source of information...a book that tells u it's ok to sell your daughter into slavery
andyrooney11 3 years ago
I am no fan of the Catholic Church, when it comes to the Catholic Church, I take Martin Luther's position, He left. Remember the road to salvation is narrow.
You parrots are always squawking the same myopic nonsense. 2000 years ago the economy wasn't modern. It was generally a poor society, some people had to offer up their children to wealthy people or they wouldn't survive. The bible only mentions how they should be treated. Try to think a little deeper angry guy.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
LMFAO! A Christian telling me to "think"...you're the dumb fuck who believes in imaginary people, you're the one who lacks the capacity for intellectual thought, and you are the one that fails to acknowledge the contradictions and the logical fallacies in the bible that obviously prove that it was written by a bunch of dumb fucking people...and you're telling ME to THINK? LMFAO! You're pathetic.
andyrooney11 3 years ago
You poor angry thing. The Creationist clearly has the advantage. He believes in science, the scientific method & logic. He is humbly grounded by scripture & understands the workings of the spiritual world. The atheist rest everything on science, which has them operating in an inferior one-dimensional world view. But in your mind it's the Creationist who's got the stick in their "progressive" spokes. Where is your logic? The establishment has poured billions of $ to have you thinking this way.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
"The Creationist clearly has the advantage. He believes in science, the scientific method & logic"
Incorrect.
m3141592 3 years ago
Thank You...nice to see the whole world is not full of fucking morons...I'm not even going to respond to that idiot anymore...he's too stupid for me to waste my time with him.
andyrooney11 3 years ago
"Communism only allows atheism, why?"
Because it is a system of behavioral control, and so is theism.
They see theism as a rival power base which indoctrinates people into a different and incompatible worldview.
In governments where theism is compatible with the state's indoctrination (hierarchical, irrational, aggressive, anti-science) like Iran, the state and the religion become one and the same.
m3141592 3 years ago
"On the contrary they [atheists] are far more malleable, and it is easier to convince them that their leader is God."
If they believe in a god, by definition they are not atheists.
m3141592 3 years ago
My point exactly, they eventually start viewing their leaders as God. Ironic isn't it?
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
"My point exactly, they eventually start viewing their leaders as God."
If that was your point it would have been better expressed using words which meant that.
If you read your own posts, you'll find you're basically saying that atheists are more likely to believe in god.
Does that make sense?
No it doesn't.
Words have specific meanings for a reason; if you choose to use them to indicate their opposite you just end up talking shit.
Research "chain of reasoning". Circles don't count.
m3141592 3 years ago
I'll simplify my point. The atheist mind is likely to view man as God. A Christian for example views God as God and man as man. Meaning that a Communist nation or New World Order needs the atheist mind to make it workable.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
"The atheist mind is likely to view man as God. "
Atheists DON'T believe in god. It doesn't matter how you phrase your point, it still doesn't make sense.
They usually view man as a species of primate, and god as a lie invented by cynical users to manipulate the vulnerable.
It's like saying black things are white, or salt is sugar, or war is peace, or freedom is slavery.
It's starting to seem like your analytical faculties have been so severely damaged you don't know what truth means.
m3141592 3 years ago
All you need to do is see some file of a funeral of such communist leaders, the line to their precession are miles long. These weren't life's most generous men.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
"All you need to do is see some file of a funeral of such communist leaders, the line to their precession are miles long. These weren't life's most generous men."
And how exactly does (probably enforced) state funeral equal godhood?
Has anyone claimed Stalin was omnipotent or created the universe?
No.
This is the danger of religious indoctrination. It usurps the victims reason and prevents them from seeing the world in anything other than its own terms.
m3141592 3 years ago
The Establishment through the foundations, have spent Billions of dollars over the last 70 years indoctrinating you and much of society to you think the way you do. They need Orwellian Drones for this future, and you sir, are one. Money well spent.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
Subtle subject change there.
Have you even read Orwell's work? It's not about the future, it's about the present.
You're full of shit and you know it.
How do you decide what is true?
m3141592 3 years ago
Hmm... It was written in 1948, and it was called 1984. It appears the subject hasn't changed, you are certainly still lost.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago 2
"It was written in 1948, and it was called 1984"
What are you dense or intentionally obtuse?
The things Orwell discussed have come to pass. Right now. (The present),
If it's 2009 now, is 1984 the future? It goes past , present then future.
If someone asks you what time it is do you;
a) tell them the current time.
b) ask them when they want to know the time for.
m3141592 3 years ago
You are a nut. He was talking about the future. He was just off on the date. Who's dense?
DanieljDixon 3 years ago 3
"He was talking about the future. "
He was, but we aren't in 1948 and neither of us is George Owell.
Look at the original post you made and think about the grammar of tenses in the first person.
m3141592 3 years ago
How do you decide what is true?
Answer the question coward.
m3141592 3 years ago
Calling me a coward? :D getting a bit frustrated are we?
Answer: Through research and a sound mind, and our God gave me a high IQ which I use whenever I can.
DanieljDixon 3 years ago
"getting a bit frustrated are we?"
Trying to catch your attention, since you try to ignore that question.
And you're still not answering it. All you've done is to say how sane and intelligent you are. Self-aggrandizement does nothing to address the question.
What is the process of though you go through when deciding on the veracity of something?
What attributes are shared by true claims and absent from false ones?
HOW do you decide WHAT is True?
m3141592 3 years ago
Oops. Typo.
That should have been;
"What is the process of THOUGHT you go through when deciding on the veracity of something?"
m3141592 3 years ago
It's called, Shut the fuck up 6 months later after your post. =)
ItzMeEric 2 years ago
ok then
m3141592 2 years ago
it's called evidence and experience.
EvolvedOutlaw 2 years ago
if you bought a "lemon" of a car does that make cars bad?
parakeethands 3 years ago
it would be nice see him get shot, damn con!!!
eric5452 3 years ago 2
geller has the ethics if a pig
mummyfunk 3 years ago 10
I love his face on the tonight show.. he's like.. OMG CRAP WHAT DO I DO?!?!?!
lmao!
msoks1 3 years ago
Uri Geller - DOUCHE BAG EXTRAORDINARE!
MACKATTACK1970 3 years ago
The second biggest douche in the universe.
revjimbob 3 years ago
i knew that i saw him first.
he's a stupid bloody cunt!
justatube 3 years ago
He may have managed to fool a few gullible scientific researchers in the 70s.
"people believe what they want to believe regardless of what is most likely"
So - what's most likely - that a magician (that's what he did for a living), who has been caught many times on camera cheating , and whose tricks have been successfully replicated by admitted magicians, has psychic powers, or that our understanding of how the world works, based on centuries of research and experiment, is completely wrong?
adderkop 3 years ago
cosmicjazzer is not really a Geller believer. No one could be that gullible in the face of so much evidence. The alpha project people studied Randi's planted magicians for YEARS and determined they were genuine. Yes, the researchers can be fooled. I can see why Randi must spend day and night pounding his head against a brick wall.
pitbull103 3 years ago
PWNED.
DarkOnyx 3 years ago
Another example of a test performed on Geller at Stanford university. A drawing was placed in a sealed envelope which was then placed in a safe. Geller still received the image perfectly.
It's so easy to jump to conclusions based on present day beliefs (or 'disbeliefs') rather than the facts. Someday these beliefs will hopefully evolve!!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
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cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
how can anyone take gellers childrens tricks seriously? come on..
n7nzr8 3 years ago
Very much points to Geller being for real. He has been tested very carefully by reputable scientists, over and over...
Just one example: Geller bent a key belonging to Professor Victor Weisskopf while Weisskopf was holding it, thereby precluding Randi's 'explanation' that Geller achieves key bending by 'ratcheting' an already bent key.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
When a fraud is exposed, even he must find new ways to trick the foolish. Not all of them will be obvious.
jasonsaw76 3 years ago
Agreed. BUT Geller has not once been exposed as a fraud!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
You're right - he has not been exposed once, but many, many times. Youtube destroyed his credibility even among the gullible.
revjimbob 3 years ago 3
It seems that people believe what they want to believe regardless of what is most likely. The devil is in the detail. What is most likely is actually that Geller is genuine. He has demonstrated his abilites under strict lab conditions. So while there HAS been proof of his abilites, no one has ever PROVED him a fake.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
He may have managed to fool a few gullible scientific researchers in the 70s.
"people believe what they want to believe regardless of what is most likely"
So - what's most likely - that a magician (that's what he did for a living), who has been caught many times on camera cheating , and whose tricks have been successfully replicated by admitted magicians, has psychic powers, or that our understanding of how the world works, based on centuries of research and experiment, is completely wrong?
revjimbob 3 years ago
Well I'm very familar with the work of some these 'gullible researchers' (eg. Gary Schwartz ) and it would be very out of character for their procedures to allow any POSSIBILITY of cheating... I've personally experienced all sorts of psychic happenings so know such things can occur, even if they may also be faked...Hopefully our understanding of the way the world works has not reached a full stop... Cutting edge science is now having to accept 'mind over matter'...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Gary Shwartz? This Gary Schwartz?:
watch?v=drrciHKm7TU
(or search for - 'Conman or Psychic on Geraldo at Large' on youtube)
This is your intellectual champion? Grow up and get wise you credulous fool.
revjimbob 3 years ago
I have seen this vid about Schwartz as well as read the opinions of his critics etc. I do not know the truth as regards these particular allegations but suspect there is much more to the story than what is presented. I would want to hear both sides...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
The Jonny Carson show was quite obvious to me. But that wasn't "rock solid". Even still I believe he's fake.
jasonsaw76 3 years ago
As for the Carson show, it is perfectly understandable that Geller would fail in that environment of disbelief and super high pressure. I know from experience that the really amazing psychic manifestatioins occur when one is very relaxed, not trying too hard and in a light hearted frame of mind...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Speaking of Blaine: "Uri bent a spoon for me, the first time he did it, I thought there must be a trick. The second time I was stunned, completely, completely stunned and amazed. It just bent in my hand. I've never seen anything like it. It takes a lot to impress me. Uri Geller is for real and anyone who doesn't recognise that is either deluding himself, or is a very sad person." - David Blaine, (American Magician. Star of ABC's Television Specials.)
xlntnrg 3 years ago
Thank you. Very interesting!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
"I've been studying psychic phenomena for over 20 years"
What a waste of time. Do something useful.
OdorousParrot 3 years ago
Well... I thank you for your enlightened opinion! I don't know where I'd be without this amazing insight...
It is my opinion that investigating what we really are, the nature of reality etc. is ultimately more useful than just about ANYTHING else. What value has life if devoid of meaning...
For that reason, investigating (more experientially than theoretically) the psychic, the mystical, altered states, alternative science, philosophy etc. has indeed been my focus for (actually) 27 years.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
james randi reminds me of the monkey on the lion king
jamilplyr 3 years ago
Which goal? What means?
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
I can't decide who is better, Geller or Sylvia Browne. Both are extremely funny.
actualnothing 3 years ago 2
All of Randi's 'debunking' has actually been of this speculative variety when it comes to Gellar. Some of Randi's other work has been useful however (Popoff...)
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Why, there are some videos where some of simpler tricks are actually revealed, like him using a standard gimmick of a thumbpiece with a magnet, and the spoonbending is on some recordings a little bit more revealing than on others. Geller is obviously proficient at sleigh of hand, and if he is lying about some of his abilities, then why not about others?
Also, remember Occam's Razor. ;)
3yE 3 years ago 2
I've never seen a video where it is CLEAR that Gellar is cheating but if there is one please point me in the right direction - I'm interested!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
cosmicjazzer said: I've never seen a video where it is CLEAR that Gellar is cheating
Oh come on! just look at the video when mr.Geller supposedly by mental ways affected a compass!
Paxmax 3 years ago
I looked at that video and saw him put his thumbs together at one point. It's really laughable that people claim this as proof he was cheating. It proves nothing - one way or the other.
By the way, I know someone (very well)who can do similar to Gellar. I've seen him move a compass needle with his mind plus VERY much more, some of which is beyond any possibilitly of cheating. Try it. You just might be able to yourself you know...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
looks like $1,000,000 is coming your aquaintance's way very soon.
TearTheRoofOff 3 years ago
I understand there is much small print in the Randi offer which essentially means he can choose not to pay if he doesn't want to! Also, psychic manifestations are to some degree dependant on there being a supportive atmosphere (though the demonstrations can still be scientifically controlled) and I can't see Randi providing that!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
First off..I dont want ro offend you just writing my own opinion...
To educated people you sound like a moron..
You CANT move needles with your mind! :D
Criss angel , David Blane , and the master of all "magicans" David Copperfield have all admit that EVERY SINGLE show is a trick! They let ppl see what ppl wanna see through intelligence and often simple tricks! And btw its Uri Gell"ER" not gellar
MillionaireSince2003 3 years ago
OF COURSE I'm very well aware that all these things CAN be faked - and usually are! But I suggest you do some proper research before brashly making such statements as "You CANT move needles with your mind!" You can, actually!
I think that it sad that people's first response is to rubbish that which is outside of their immediate experience...
And btw it's Blaine, not Blane!!!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Touche hahaha
I should have better checked my writing before i was judging about yours my friend :D
If you really have been studying psychic phenomena for 20 years then I better shut my mouth! Because Im only 22 and I have been studying only 4 years in uni (And i thought that was long :D)...I just think that geller is a cheater and that he should better tell the truth! He made enough money with this stuff so i think its pathetic saying that he has phenomenal mental power!! :D
MillionaireSince2003 3 years ago
Ha ha! Well, who knows, Geller might be less than legit... I'm not so much defending Geller here as the existence of such phenomena. I've seen some amazing things so know they can happen at times.
Peace ;)
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
I must sayI AM somewhat offended and frustrated by your remarks. (It's SUCH a cliche, you see...) At the risk of blowing my own trumpet, I've been studying psychic phenomena for over 20 years so contrary to your assumption am hardly uneducated in this area. In previous posts I've made references to a book plus good research into mind over matter. I suggest you START there if you are really interested in getting to the truth...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Also, I think that if Gellar was cheating he'd be doing it a bit less obviously!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Uri Geller is a bad illusionist, that's why it's so bloody obvious.
Paxmax 3 years ago
As for why Gellar might SOMETIMES resort to trickery, this would be simply because of the huge pressure to produce a result when such manifestations of mind over matter can never be guaranteed, even by the most gifted practitioners... But I'm on the fence when it comes to Gellar himself... it's the possibility of such manifestations that I'm defending here.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Lol, you read Machiavelli? The goal doesn't justify the means.
Dragolaa 3 years ago
Hi! No I've not read any Machiavelli and I'm not sure I've correctly understand your post. Please explain!!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
I'm not taking a side as far as Gellar himself is concerned (though I suspect he is sometimes for real) but it must be said that Randi pointing out how something could be faked is not at all the same as proving it was faked. NEVER has he truly proved that Gellar is a fake.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
I guess it's never been proven that Elvis is dead, either... so he must be alive! It's never been proven that Neil Armstrong walked on the moon... so he must not have!
badmuthahubbard 3 years ago
Well I agree with your essential sentiment.... But our different experience makes us apply this sentiment differently to Gellar...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
...and besides, everyone knows Elvis is, in fact, Barack Obama ;)
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Sorry... I was rather getting on my high horse in the last post... But as someone who has had countless psychic experiences it seems rather ridiculous that the whole thing is in debate at all.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
I find the cliches that are being expressed here quite staggering in their ignorance. I suspect they can only be the outcome of a lack of first hand experience of this subject. May I also add: Princeton University have spent about 25 years researching and verifying this stuff (PEAR project) and their work certainly meets normal scientific conditions... And then of course there's Stanford university. I am completely in favour of strict controls btw. It's the small mindedness that's the problem...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Isn't it convenient that skepticism and experimental controls "blocks" psychic ability?
I can't believe people still buy that arguement. Let's say for a minute that it's true that psychic abilities exist.. they have absolutely no use. They have no application other than "oohs and ahhs" because as soon as it matters, it doesn't work.
jrparri 3 years ago
The many experiments in 'mind over matter' that use random number generator are worth a look btw...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Is he a bad person? does he deserve to be humiliated? people like peter were doing wrong but what was uri gellar doin wrong?
Inverted Chords.
No he was doing nothing wrong. Only claiming he had psychic powers when he didn't. Only fraudulently stealing people's money who wanted to see his 'psychic powers' (which he doesn't have at all) in action. A CON MAN thats all he is. He has been found cheating numerous times. But i'll shut up now because he really does have psychic powers doesnt he!...
sevenfiftyseven 3 years ago
is he a bad person? does he deserve to be humiliated? people like peter were doing wrong but what was uri geellar doin wrong?
invertedchords 3 years ago
1) Yes, he's lied and wasted our tax money. Fuck him.
2) Not outright, but if you claim to be able to do something you can't and waste people's time and money for a lie, you do indeed deserve humiliation. It's called poetic justice.
3) Yes, he was. He's lied and has even sued James Randi in court for revealing him. He's tried to scare an elderly man from using his freedom of speech by hiding under the pathetic claim that James Randi is lying about his abilities. Geller has been seen cheating.
Hellblade8 3 years ago
manipulating ppl is wrong
Revan540 3 years ago
uri geller IS wrong.
wesselenjort 3 years ago
I was involved with a Dutch show TV production of the for my work as floor-technician.I met Mr.Geller personally backstage and saw he was preparating 3 different particular spoons and tiny mirrors that were made of a weak alloy witch could be easily bend.
Our producer said it was highly classified due to contracts.
Later on I heard that no one in the live broadcasting should mention the name of James Randi.Of course I wondered why?
Now I know and explains a lott to me......
dizzyman75 3 years ago
I like cosmic's tactic of not offering any evidence and yet claiming that he is right anyways. Typical closed minded moron. He's so closed minded he was never open to reality but will cling to fantasy as strong as possible even when he is shown he has no reason for his beliefs.
I like how these closed minded fucks call the people who are actually open to reality closed minded.
ramdillian 3 years ago
Excuse me ramdillian but I DID point in the direction of some very good studies (McTaggart book). My reason for not revealing my own (irrefutable) experiences of psychic phenomena was simply that there is a space limit which does not allow me to go into the detail and it is the detail that is important as I'm sure you would agree. It is ironic that you are accusing me of close-mindedness! I have never had any need or desire to believe. I would suggest you try and write without using expletives.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
You dumbass. A non scientific book is not evidence. Give us references to scientific information published by a peer reviewed journal or shut the fuck up.
ramdillian 3 years ago
You seem unable to write without using insults and expletives...
But to answer your point, if you read the book you will see that some of the studies mentioned do fulfil the criteria you require. In any case, it is horrendously difficult to get proper investigation of psychic phenomena as so many minds are so closed. The cress seed experiment I mentioned was dismissed by 'Nature' BEFORE being read on the grounds that it 'can't be true, therefore it isn't'! How scientific is that?!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Your job is to give us the studies and the journal references they were in- you seem to be incapable of defending your bullshit arguments. Referral to a non scientific book is failure, as I've said before.
Also, Nature is not a scientific journal, so you don't even have a clue what you're fucking talking about. Get an education and then get back to us when you grow up.
ramdillian 3 years ago
Er, first I suggest you Google 'Nature' and you'll see that it IS a scientific journal! Secondly, I've made reference to the PEAR project which was ongoing for over 20 years at Princeton university. Thirdly, there is much VERY sound science in McTaggarts book along with many references to experiments into mind over matter. And, if I may, I'm wondering if you're capable of writing without using expleteves. Try it. You might like it!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Sorry if the last reply seemed a bit pompous! To me, questioning the existence of psychic phenomena feels like questioning the existence of air!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
I'm not even saying that Geller is always 100%legit btw., rather that this stuff can genuinely happen and to some people it happens very frequently. I have witnessed phenomena that could not be faked.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Please given an example of the phenomena that could not be faked.
hobokombat 3 years ago
I fear that no matter what I say you will probably just fall into the cliche of trying to refute it. There is not the space here to provide the necessary detail and 'the devil is in the detail.'
I've studied this area for most of my life and I am actually not much in favour of yer average psychic. The problem is a common tendency to superimpose concepts that don't belong.
If the scientific world was more intellectually honest then tedious discussion about basics would not be necessary!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Unfortunately, this appears to be the conclusion of any paranormal debate I see.
Skeptic: "Please provide evidence of your claims."
Believer: "You wouldn't believe me anyway, so I'm not going to."
hobokombat 3 years ago
I prefer healthy skepticism to blind belief any day! I suppose the best route to getting evidence is to learn how to do the psychic stuff yourself!
The McTaggart book contains references to scientific studies of the more unusual powers of the mind etc.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
look, gellar has never been legit, anyone who's ever had a so-called psychic ability has been disproven at some point. The best way to prove your legit, is to actually prove it
Revan540 3 years ago
I have no personal experience of Gellar but I do know someone who can produce Gellar type phenomena. There is simply no possibility of trickery in some of the things I've witnessed and had happen to me personally...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
you think no trickery, but almost everything can be explained rationally. If you want to believe something you might forsake all logic
Revan540 3 years ago
I am very aware that many people believe what they want to believe. It is a pet hate of mine! I'm also very aware of what conjury can achieve. As far as 'rationality' goes, a study of quantum phenomena sheds some light on psychic type manifestations and makes them appear much more 'rational'! And much that was considered rational and scientific 100 years ago is outmoded now. Many think that 'science' has now essentially got a complete overview... Imo it has hardly begun...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
your talking about supernatural things, not science. i'm sure you thought you did/saw something but it was probably just a manifestation of your own imagination... or our crazy
Revan540 3 years ago
Well in this context I can only say that some of the experiences I've had are truly beyond any POSSIBILTY of imagination...
The real cutting edge science (eg. quantum mechanics) IS beginning to accept this sort of stuff!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
yeah! your an idiot, or insane... maybe both. the theories of quantum mechanics are too numerous and debated that any thing you ever heard could be a theory of a possible 200 diffrent ones. IT's your imagination or a magic trick. Don't be so gullible
Revan540 3 years ago
Well thank you for your polite response!! I'm sorry but it is not me who has a mental problem here... I suggest you do some proper research before jumping to a conclusion.
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
what you are an idiot from how it sounds. Quantum mechanics maybe a breakthrough science but not a proven one due to the lack of a universal theory. it's magic tricks, deal with it
Revan540 3 years ago
You are of course entitled to your present opinion but PROPER investigation would change it!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
oh proper investigation, so bullshit gullible investigation
Revan540 3 years ago
Randi cant explain everything about psyics
dalefantom 3 years ago
Carson wanted to rip his asshole open so badly XD you can see it, we all wanted him too.
BronzeEleven 3 years ago 2
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I have huge experience of psychic phenomena and I'd say that out and out fakes are rare. What is more common is a little amount of ability combined with a lot of wishful thinking... But this is not to negate the huge ability that some individuals do have.
It is not that 'physics is wrong' btw, more that science is hopefully still maturing and 'facts' are very often revised.
I dislike Randi! Psychic work needs focus and a supportive atmosphere - he definitely doesn't provide that!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Why should something with absolutely no legitimate foundation deserve focus and support?
hobokombat 3 years ago
Well it is only your assumption that this phenomenom has 'no legitimate foundation'. I know from personal experience that such things can and do happen (and I am not a person who WANTS to believe).
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
And that's how things like this survive: anecdotal evidence.
hobokombat 3 years ago
Actually, there IS plenty of hard evidence but I think there are too many closed minds for it to be widely acknowledged... Have a read of 'The Intention Experiment' by L McTaggart for refs to proper studies into the incredible power of thought... Another thing, psychic manifestation, by its very nature, demands a supportive atmosphere and that certainly isn't to be found in someone like Randi!!
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
If there was plenty of 'hard evidence' this wouldn't even be disputed. If there was evidence that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that people have paranormal abilities, then they certainly haven't come forth with it.
hobokombat 3 years ago
There are MANY proper studies that provide hard evidence. The problem is the closed minds within the 'scientific' world. I know a gifted psychic who provided conclusive evidence in SIX double blind experiments performed in strict lab conditions by a uni professor, but the scientific community dismissed it BEFORE knowing the facts. My psychic friend made pre-poisened cress seeds germinate. (Those poisened seeds that did not receive his energy died!) That's just the tip of the iceberg btw...
cosmicjazzer 3 years ago
Is Geller still around? I would have thought after James Randi exposed him, he would have faded away.
NZartfuldando 3 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I think it very naive to dismiss all psychic phenomena as fake. The real problem is the superstition that surrounds genuine psychic occurences, often unwittingly magnified by the practitioners...
starman9999 3 years ago
Another problem of course is that no physical phenomena actually exists unless you propose that physics is wrong, in which case you need some kind of evidence in order for your theory to stand. As it is, the best evidence you have is false, and in fact university paranormal departments these days are devoted not to ESP but to exposing fakes, which is all that they or anyone else has ever found this phenomena to be. The best way to understand it is as con tricks posing as reality.
marsCubed 3 years ago 4
You are in error. (I assume you meant that no psychic phenomena exist etc..)
Developing physics easily allows for 'paranormal' phenomena. A little imagination is all that is required (and Einstein thought imagination is more important then knowledge)
bazamah 3 years ago
Well yes, Einstein believed that imagination was very important. However the line between polemic and hypothesis, and scientific theory (aka law or principle), is very significant. Physics does not find ESP of any kind, the sorts of entanglement we can produce are extremely fragile nature is cleverer than us but she is also always much more elegant too
like the sea, not like uri geller.
marsCubed 3 years ago
Not so sure about that. Physicists have not seriously explored ESP yet because there are few hypotheses to test. Theory, however, does raise some tantalising possibilities, particularly concerning communication and additional dimensions, not to mention the current thinking about the nature of time.
By the way, I am no supporter of Uri Geller and his party tricks, but I am aware that all we perceive is not all that there is.
bazamah 3 years ago
Unfortunately, most people WANT to believe in things they know are not true, because it gives them comfort. They will also deny those things that prove their beliefs are false for the same reason.
Hence Obama's election.
Jesus' Acension
The Easter Bunny
and Santa Claus
ThePhalseProfit 3 years ago
Your inclusion of Obama in your list completely invalidates the rest of your argument. It is an attempt at an argument by induction, a cheap shot and everyone can see this. makes you look like a dishonest fool.
marsCubed 3 years ago 2
Yes you are right, people tend to believe a proposition when there is no ground and supposing it true.
russellunearthly 3 years ago
Geller got owned !
jerrylewis333 3 years ago 3
Many people already been fool by Geller, hope everyone will be more rational and logical and skeptical in thinking, because people like Geller are using con man tactics to earn money.
If many people still choose to believe then infuture more con man will be able to earn money easily.
russellunearthly 3 years ago 3
The biggest con ever was institutionalized christianity.
wakan79 3 years ago
James Randi i totally agree, Psychics does not exist in this world, Psychics are fake, the people who claims they have Psychics power they are as worst as Satan because they are con man.....
There is something feeble & a little comtemptible about a man who cannot face the perils of life without the help of comfortable myths.
russellunearthly 3 years ago 5
You don't believe that there may be as of yet unknown forces at work in the universe, but you believe that there is an invisible, horned, spiritual being that causes people to do bad things? HAHAHAH
wakan79 3 years ago
smoking on tv? Something u dont see nowadays
aure232 3 years ago 6
owned
sarigno791 3 years ago 3
the aliens that give him his powers are trying to create a large group of people that are absolutely certain that there's no such thing as psychic or the soul or god, etc.
seeaeytch 3 years ago
What the fuck are you talking about, seeaeytch?
LulzCuppieCakes 3 years ago 3