Though it's obvious someone would want a person who could hear over someone who's deaf, it was the fact that he was being rude and not even considering them that shouldn't be allowed.
wow!!! I'm in complete shock -- and I'm from Rochester - I'm so embarrassed that no one else said anything - I'm even more shocked at the advice the HR reps gave to the manager!!
@Monicarocks234 They're deaf, they simply have to accept that they're not equally as qualified for all jobs as normal people. If I had only one arm and wanted to apply for a dishwashing job, I don't have to be shocked if the employer doesn't want to hire me because of my disability. It's the same thing.
@BongRasta The point is that restaurants are a busy place, and as a person who's worked in one, I used to have orders and things called out to me all the time. If you can't hear, you will slow the chain of command down. I agree 100% with those human resources people who gave him advice. Don't hire them.
@hothotheat3000 thats a pretty closed minded point of view,before a explain u why...u dont need to work or have experience in restaurants to understand it.
but since u believe that helps something ive worked in restaurants too and my grandma even HAS one...and u said WORKED so i believe thats not your job right now,why did u stop if u were so good at it?
point number one-they would work twice better for lots of reasons,such has, NO ONE GIVES THEM A JOB,so when they get one... (continue)
second point is,because of people like you ´´they´´ keep being ABUSED like that and USUALLY become sensitive people.
and finally what kind of shitty restaurant needs to yell to get their order??didnt they hear about new technologies?serious?even my grandma had to install a paper sistem,where the order is made at the table and gets in the kitchen immediatelly,and usefull also to keep track of orders cuz at the end of the month u can use those papers to do ur accountancy
@BongRasta its not only illegal but also a lack of moral values to do such thing...shouldnt u get their life easier man?im discriminated just because of my hair i cant even imagine how them feel when u idiots treat em like this...plus those HR parasites were really rude and lack professionalism.
dawm were are just a bunch of high tek monkeys.... -_-
Man, I've been watching these for a long time now. Contrary to what many may think it's definitely not a waste of time, I think it's imperative that people watch the range of human behaviour and learn from their mistakes.
@Whisperingtothefire- Sorry, like I said, I need to learn to not comment until I've watched the ENTIRE video, eh? ;) hahahah! Thanks and God Bless! ;)
@cerulee Why not? If you find out the people in that field are assholes, be the change you want to see in the field. It takes someone to start somewhere.
this motivates me to do something in my community. i personally know two people that were fired for being deaf. it is a reality in america. the public, or "normal" people need to step up for those with disabilities. I know these were all actors but it makes me want to do something.
Those HR people weren't being immoral or anything. They were giving good advice. Believe it or not, a lot of managers probably would rather hire a person who isn't deaf than someone who is deaf. Howver, deaf people should not be discriminated against.
@hazahaxa It is illegal here in to. Americans with Disabilities act was into law on July 26, 1990 by George H. W. Bush. That act makes it illegal to discriminated against people with disabilities.
Human Resources- Yep- i would expect nothing less. They suck. I have had MANY jobs were they even say they are here for you- the employees- but then they go right back and tell the manager EVERYTHING you said to them in confidence!!! They are total backstabbers and experts in sabotage.
Those people from human resources have been trained with ignorance & shows the discriminating level of recruitment in the workplace, & selection is sometimes based on ticking boxes & token gestures.
When some employees preach about equality it's just a corporate buzz word which sounds good on paper but in reality is not the case
I worked at Home Depot with a deaf man. We both worked in the lot. Everybody communicated with radios but that didn't stop him from being one of the best employes the store had.
I think the best way to show respect is to take their applications,and not hire them instead of rejecting their applications and saying that because they are deaf. Really and sadly, they are not fit...they can find other jobs which are more suitable for them. Not that people must hire them because they are deaf
@washitaiwanlan if they can do the job and don't smell, they should be hired unless someone with better experience/qualifications applies (though even in that case I'd hire the non-experienced as someone needs to give them a chance, but that's preference)
Oh for the love of Pete. This is not discrimination! People who cannot hear verbal communication simply are not capable of working in certain job places! How are they supposed to communicate with the other cooks or waiters? I hate the fact that we can lose our hearing but let's keep this real folks. If you cannot hear you need to work in a place that isn't as dependent on verbal communication. An office perhaps but not a kitchen. Sometimes our society can be too liberal -.-
Just a reminder to viewers, the title is misleading in a sense that Deaf people prefer not to be referred to as hearing impaired. That implies that they are broken and want to be fixed - which they aren't and they don't. They are just Deaf. And if they are not completely deaf, rather than hearing impaired, "hard of hearing" is more acceptable.
there are certain jobs that a deaf person isnt very qualified for because they do have issues hearing but something like a kitchen job where the orders should be written down for them and hearing shouldnt be an issue should be a job they can get, i understand not putting them as a receptionist where they have to answer phones or communicate directly with customers but somewhere where written directions are already common, like kitchens, shouldnt be a problem at all
@TheSanguineOne I work in a kitchen, as a sauté chef. The waitresses have booklets, they write what is ordered on it, then stick it on the board . Even though I'm not a chef, they rarely need to talk to you. Maybe twice in a 5 hour shift some one shouts something out. Usually they forgot the drink.
ABC NEWS! CHANGE THE NAME! THESE WOMEN ARE NOT "HEARING IMPAIRED", THEY ARE DEAF! HEARING IMPAIRED IS CONSIDERED HIGHLY OFFENSIVE BY MOST DEAF PEOPLE.
My brother is 12 and a couple of years ago he lost all hearing in his left ear and most in his right. My brother was born 2 months earily and is legaly blind. I hope stuff like this will never happen to him..... I hope.
When I turned 11 - years old, I had lost hearing in one ear & so sometimes people think I can't hear them, but they'd be surprised because I can hear things more clearly then before!
@awarapun72033035 Obviously they would have been quite capable of working there since she was able to read his lips when he first started talking to her AND she responded. This is called a conversation and communication.. get a life..
I love this show and agree with most of it but this segment is pretty retarded, if you are the owner of a business, it is your right to hire whoever the fuck you want. I wouldn't hire a fucking deaf person in the kitchen, that is not even outragious at all, I think it is normal and this is just life, not everything is fair in this world. He is being honest and that is cool, this is not a bum bashing episode where you should intervene because it is the right thing to do.
@HardCoreKing360 She might've lost her hearing later in life (and had already been speaking for years) and might be around more hearing people than the other girl (and therefore has to read lips more often). A friend of mine didn't lose his hearing until he was 12 so he doesn't really have a deaf accent.
@TheColaCandy You obviously don't know how being deaf works, and that's pretty sad.
When you can't hear a word, it's hard to fully understand how to pronounce it. I'd love to see how you'd fair if someone took away your hearing. You'd probably just kill yourself because of how difficult it would be.
@TheColaCandy you are an imbecile! Not being able to hear is completely different then being mentally challenged. The way we learn how to speak when we are young is by listening to our parents and other adults speak around us and we formulate what words are supposed to sound like! If you grow up not being able to hear or only being able to hear small noises it is remarkable that speech is even a possibility. Educate yourself! Learning speech without sound is like learning colors minus sight
This Discrimination is an abomination, but we all need to understand that this does have it's limits. Like the video implies. You will obviously be discriminated against if you are deaf and are trying to join the SWAT or police force.
This is so right to a key! My husbend is Legaly blind and him trying to find work is really hard becuse they think that he can't do the same job that others can. And he keeps showing everyone that he can over and over again!
@kutekitty7 some deaf ppl cant spaek at all but others can learn to speak. thats why if you listen to a deaf person speak the words sound weird, like they arent assembled correctly, but if you listen closely you can decifer what they are saying 1:35
it also depends on the level of hearing the deaf person is at if you are profoundly deaf then you can only read lips & sign, but if you are (from low to high): Unilateral >>Mild >>Moderate hearing loss>>Severe hearing loss>>Profound hearing loss
Look if you think you need a hearing person to do the job right then you can't hire a deaf one. Just like a fat chick can't be a runway model. Just like a blind guy can't be a bus driver. Just like a 64 year old lady can't be a furniture mover. What next? Do we let mentally disabled people do heart transplants so they wont be discriminated against? There are places that find appropriate work for the handicapped.
@Vegheadsrock Deaf people are just as capable as hearing people. They are not "handicapped." If she is qualified to do the job, then he cannot deny her based on her being Deaf.
If one of the job specifications expressly requires hearing (e.g. hearing an alarm/machine), then yeah, he can deny her application. This job did not expressly require hearing, therefore, she has just as much of a right to get the job as a hearing person. Denying that is discrimination, plain and simple.
This is bullshit... I am pretty sure that being able to hear is quite an important part of applying for work. It's like me suing a modelling agency for not finding me good looking enough, or suing nuclear power plant for saying that I am not intelligent enough.
He is trying to run a business and is not a charity shop. I don't get why everyone thinks like people owe them something.
@1MadVirus1 Just because she can't hear doesn't mean she can't do the job. It's called reasonable accommodation. Yours is the sort of attitude that prevents my legally blind cousin from easily finding work. She applies for retail and even though she still has much of her vision they assume she is incapable. also, my grandmother has severe tinnitus in one ear and is deaf in the other, and she was a high school teacher. If she can keep control over thirty kids at once, this girl can cook.
I have 2 deaf uncles with Coclier(spelling?) implants. I'm slowly learning sign language, and I think that deaf culture is fasinating. It's horrible how people treat them sometimes. I hope that things change, especially since they don't choose to be deaf. I'm sorry to anyone that has been discrimated agaisnt whether it was because of an impairment or race, or anything else. I love this show because it reveals what really goes on in the world around us.
I am 14 years old, and I am really interested in knowing this. I usually thought deaf people were mute (some being not mute, I know) Can someone explain how they can hear the barista if they are deaf? I mean I know some can hear a bit, though. No rude replies :)
@LaurenAndMartaShow 'They read lips :) Notice how they look at his face the entire time. And deaf people aren't mute. They just have a severe speech impediment . Just like hearing people, deaf people have an inner voice and they use that to communicate orally; how clearly they speak is determined by how long they've been deaf. People who have been deaf their entire lives, have an inner voice - they are just really hard to understand. Hope that answers some questions :)
@LaurenAndMartaShow Well, you just answered your own question. Some of them are only partially deaf. They also have special hearing aids (earpiece which amplifies sound)
so everytime you take training on no discrimination and what not... they are fucking lying... WOW... i use to work in retail and they are all like we will except anyone no matter the disability... wtf... fucking HR is full of shit... im so glad i left AAFES... oh by the way AAFES IS FULL OF SHIT!!
This is why Canada is one of the msot common places for immigrants to coem to! We alow people from black to white to deaf to blind. From British to African American/Canadian
@PeculiarTactics yes, I agree, and I understand... If you didn't read my comment properly, I wrote that I AM deaf!
The point I'm making is that adapting to change can happen all it wants, however that's not going to change the fact that I can't hear people speak to me.
and yea handicapped people have most of the rights in the world.......and there are not enough jobs for normal people lest they be given to ppl with disabilities .....we also have to work to make a living..
@pingufromindia I suggest you read Chapter 7 "The Terror of the Machine" in "My life and my work" written by Henry Ford.
Ford states that they hired disabled / crippled to come work at the factory.
"At the time of the last analysis of employed, there were 9,503 sub-standard men. 123 had crippled, amputated arms/forearms/hands. 1 had both hands off. 4 totally blind. 237 blind in one eye.253 with one eye nearly blind. 37 deaf and dumb. 60 epileptics.
This doesn't really surprise me. Discrimination still occurs everywhere. That manager shouldn't have made a scene. He should have just accepted her application because now she has proof that the manager was in violation of the ADA law. She can come after the manager if she chooses to.
With that being said, many employers are willing to hire deaf people but in some workplaces it can be challenging due to the communication barrier.
I think it really depends on the job and person. If the deaf person can do as good (if not better) a job, sure, why not. But If they can't give me 100%, I don't see why I shouldn't hire someone who can.
i understand what the recruiters meant. the manager firmly stated that s/he would hire them because they are deaf. it's all part of their managing strategy.. they only suggested like a more subtle way to just say NO.
am deaf full. this asshole hearing very idiot! hearing don't know how respect so be nice convastion for deaf for job apply. alike racist slave black 1800's part two deaf centeny 21 no body hired for deaf? it fuck up
This is the worst episode. The people from human resources were right, the manager handled it the wrong way, but jesus christ it's not discrimination, it's simply impractical.
Would you hire a one-armed person to be your driver?
Would you hire a midget to be a bouncer?
I wouldn't and I've got nothing against handicapped people and I think the reasons are quite obvious.
@MsDDiddy Being able to hear makes you more qualified. I know the guy said it's only a kitchen job but for whoever has worked in a cafe before you would know it's not simply just that. Like the guy said "what if I shout something to the kitchen?" and "What if I need something done right away?" These are common things that happen everyday at work. It's wrong that he made a scene out of the whole thing but sorry mate, truth hurts, it would make life much easier hiring other people.
@phulei That girl can obviously read lips very well, and speaks well too. The only thing that's different about her is that she can't hear. Big deal! My cousin is deaf, but she reads lips and she's very good at it. Most people don't even know she's deaf.
The girl in the video just wants a kitchen job. You don't need to hear to cook.
I'm a non-hearing person in the UK and I don't bother applying to jobs which pretty much rely on the communication between two people. I have to have an interpreter with me because it's not always possible to lip read if you're not facing the person. To me it just seems silly to hire 2 people to do a job which 1 hearing person could do alone. I'm fine with that, I understand why it's not practical. I think some people need to realise this too. Not everywhere can afford 2 people in the space of 1
@MrLc6 What you fail to understand is that recent discoveries in Neuroscience have proven that people who have disabilities ( such as deafness ) are able to adapt to that change. The brain actually compensates for it, as it strengthens and focuses on the other senses to make them stronger so it can balance out and equal the loss of whatever sense is not functioning properly. People who are deaf i guarantee can read body language better than anyone else.
Doesnt make much sense to me. Ludwig Van Bheetoven was deaf and he still crafted musical pieces that are universally accepted as some of the greatest works of art in the history of the human species. Humans are animals and like any other animal when our environment changes we adapt to survive. Nueroscience has proven that people that have disabilities like deafness have a sense of vision and touch that is 5X better than a non disabled person. The brain compensates for the disability.
Some of you people are absolute Jerks. My parents are deaf and I know many deaf people, and just because they are deaf, doesn't mean they aren't capable to do things. Deaf people are people too, and if they need help, then you should be a courteous selfless human being. But never discriminate or assume that a person can't do something, just because they have a disability.
@AmyJFisher323 I want to agree with you, but a business owner's entire livelihood depends on how well their business performs, and unfortunately, most customers are judgmental. It takes a second for a customer to decide to shop somewhere, or drive on and visit the other place down the street.
My plan for the future is to start an all-autistic software company. I would hire mid-high functioning autistics and people with Aspergers. Some of them would work only a few hours, or work at home, but I would give them a feeling of purpose, and it would be a true feeling. And the high-functioning people would work normally.
I heard of a cafe in Paris where all the employee's are deaf, and the people go there because everything is so neat, and the people are so great....so really it would be great to see more of that everywhere. Even when you go into some Vietnamese Restaurants you have to "order" by writing the number on a paper.
@DejaPoo909 That's bull. Deaf people aren't dumb. They just have low to nil ability to hear. I worked with two women at a public library and they were just as good at their job as anyone else. I work in a coffee shop with a guy who's 100% blind. Disabilities are only disabilities to those who have always had said ability. It's everyday life to anyone with said "diasabiolities".
Not hiring her because she's deaf and not hiring her because she's not a fit is the same thing. Some jobs require people to be able to hear and listen to commands of the manager. It's his coffee shop he can choose to hire and not hire whoever he wants.
deaf people shouldn't be discriminated against, but at the same time they shouldn't be given more rights than normal people. the employer has all the right to not hire the deaf people for the kitchen job if he believes that the disability is going to affect how well they can function in the kitchen. if it had been something that doesn't require hearing, then the deaf should be given the job only if he is able to work more efficiently than other people, not just because they're deaf and we pity t
I HATE RECRUITERS THE MOST, THEY ARE SCUM. THEY ARE USUALLY THE DUMB PEOPLE ON THE STREET WITH NO QUALIFICATIONS THAT GET THAT JOB. AND THEY ARE RUDE AS HELL. Well...Not all but most in my experience
first of all, retard isnt a nice word. second deaf people cant hear themselves talk and usually dont learn to talk for many many years, so it tends to sound odd to hearing people who can control the pitch and sound of their voices. they are deffinatly not mentaly disabled.
@DrownedBeliefs I've worked at the headquarters of a large chain store with a woman who was blind and she did just as well, if not better, than many of the other people in the office. Please don't be so quick to judge what a person CAN'T do, and focus on what they CAN do.
In all honesty, I think your story is pretty much crap. Working in an office is hardly the same as a job where one needs to deal with people and physically work, as in my example and as in the video. Besides which, there is no plausible way a blind person could function in an office environement. What the hell could they even do?
You're only as strong as your weakest link. But oh, I'm sorry, I must've forgotten! Business doesn't work on money, it runs on good intentions, right?
@DrownedBeliefs I think you're right, my story is crap ... the woman I worked wasn't blind, she just couldn't see. You're the one who is disabled one DrownedBeliefs as you're blind to a person's abilities since you focus on what someone CAN'T do rather than what they CAN do. I'm glad I don't work with or for you.
I've noticed you've conveniently avoided my question as to what she was actually able to do in an office environement. Whether you like it or not, such a person IS limited in what they can do (if anything) and if they are employed, it is because companies have to fill quotas. They must have so many women, so many minority races, so many disabled people.
I'm not talking about taking an idealistic approach here, I'm taking a realistic one because that's how employers operate.
@DrownedBeliefs Wow..Are you saying that people who are deaf and hard of hearing are unable to be good employees?It's not as if people who cannot hear are unable to think as well as someone who is hearing.My mother is hard of hearing and knows sign language,but reads lips very well,and one of the best employees at the post office. I know that a job answering a phone would not be ideal, but there are many jobs that don't require one to hear. I guess there's no reasoning with ignorance.
Yes. I quite agree that there are many jobs that don't require one to hear. But, Christ, it appears you haven't noticed! A kitchen job ISN'T bloody one of them, genius! If you'd even taken the time to even WATCH how a kitchen operates, you'd know that.
I've already explained that orders are shouted into the kitchen. Hearing is a must for working in a restaurant, which was the initial point I made.
you are completely underestimating what disabled people can do. they have had to live their entire lives in a hearing world and have had to addap to live in it. deaf people have lived in our society for thousands of years and know how to communicate without hearing. your assuming that just because they cant do something we can that they cant do anything like us. for a teacher you should educate yourself somemore.
So what? It doesn't change the fact that a deaf person cannot work in a kitchen. Hearing is required for the job, it's really that simple. It's no different to the fact that a paraplegic is not qualified to become a heavy lifter.
I've no doubt deaf people have to work hard, and it is a sad fact of life that they are unable to the job, but there is no getting around it. Start living in the real world. Deaf people are not suitable for a kitchen job. It isn't a difficult concept.
how do you know? have you seen a deaf person try to work in akitchen. im starting to dout youve ever met a deaf person. deaf people can do a job just as good as we can. if they couldnt what kind of jobs could they get? and who says a parapalegic couldnt be a heavy lifter? they have the use of there upper body. stop douting people you dont know. anyone can do anything if they commit to it. a 100 years ago being a woman ment you couldnt do what men did. but we changed that.
I've worked in a kitchen for five years, as mentioned, so yes, I'm fully aware that I would not have been able to function in that environment without my hearing. The deaf can get jobs that don't require hearing, obviously... and that you think a paraplegic can lift weights just highlights your idiocy. Paraplegia is associated with brittle bones and a weak frame, hence WHY they can't walk.
first of all a parapaligia means that you have know feelng or use in two of your limbs. most times the rest of your body is fine. and how do you know that a deaf person couldnt do it? youve never seen one try because you probly never met a deaf person. your judjing them not on all the things they can do but on one they cant. they wouldnt do things the same way of course but they know ways to do jobs like these without hearing.
Fine, let's say a quadraplegic. Are they qualified? You're getting into the realms of the ridiculous, here; I mean, it's perfectly logical to say someone who cannot move their arms cannot do a job that requires usage of the arms. There's nothing 'discriminatory' or 'intolerant' about that.
I know a deaf person couldn't do it because I've had five years experience in that field... I am perfectly able to say that having done the job and understanding how vital hearing is for it.
It doesn't matter if I've never seen it happen, it happens because it wouldn't work. Same deal with the quadraplegic heavy lifter.
My grandfather is, indeed, deaf, but even if I DIDN'T know anyone who was deaf, why would that matter? I'm looking at what they are NOT qualified for because this episode of WWYD rejected them on that basis.
Your argument amounts to you whining that the damned thing isn't fair. It's irrelevant. They simply aren't able to do the job. Tough shit.
Yeah, I particularly liked how you completely dodged the point when you realised it is an inherently logical argument and you are talking out of your arse.
Hell, I doubt you've even HAD a job if you believe that's a reasonable position to take. Do you think McDonalds say 'Oh, he's an alcoholic and is constantly late for work, but he's GREAT at flipping burgers'? Of course not.
'Oh, she's blind and can't do half the tasks a person with sight could, but she's a FANTASTIC... erm... what can she do again?'
Silly, plain and simple. It doesn't matter how much you WISH the world worked this way, the intrinsic fact is that it does not.
@DrownedBeliefs Are you seriously comparing alcoholism to being deaf? I have to get back to work now so I can fund your food stamps and social security benefits.
I love how you missed the entire point deliberately, misconstrued the example, and ultimately dwelled on the most minute, irrelevant bloody detail in my point in order to avoid addressing what I posed to you. It's called an 'example'. It 'examplifies' something. I drew a comparison between two lines of logic. I think that's obvious even to anyone with the most basic grasp of English. Hell, even to you.
I'm not American. We don't have 'food stamps'. I'm a teacher, for God's sake.
@DrownedBeliefs That you're a teacher explains much not the least of which is that comparing a person who can't hear or see to an alcoholic is a piss poor "example". Yes, you've lived up to the low expectation of teachers everywhere - YOU are the weakest link.
I'm glad I was never one of your students. Go to hell.
Look. I'll explain this VERY SIMPLY because you appear unable to follow a simple line of thought.
Right. If someone has one quality that might make him a GOOD worker, yet has one quality which COMPLETELY EXCLUDES him from that line of work, he will NOT GET that job.
It doesn't matter what quality 2 is. It could be disability, it could be addiction, it could be unintellgence, uncooperativity, anything! Does that not make sense to you? Is that really so damned hard to understand?
@DrownedBeliefs It's a damn good thing for you that your employer overlooked your quality of being a narrow minded ass then isn't it or you'd be out of a job wouldn't you?
How is that narrow minded? Unless you're telling me a deaf person is just as qualified to work a job answering the telephone as anyone else, there is absolutely no consistency in what you're saying. Of course, if you are trying to tell me as such, then there's no logic, either.
Though it's obvious someone would want a person who could hear over someone who's deaf, it was the fact that he was being rude and not even considering them that shouldn't be allowed.
FerociterTutela 1 day ago
wow!!! I'm in complete shock -- and I'm from Rochester - I'm so embarrassed that no one else said anything - I'm even more shocked at the advice the HR reps gave to the manager!!
re2dance 1 day ago
The manager can refuse to hire whoever the fuck he wants. You can't expect the manager to prefer deaf people over people who can hear.
Menegoth 2 days ago
@Menegoth You are such an asshole,thats discrimination,how would you like it if you were deaf or blind and they didnt hire you for that -_-
Monicarocks234 1 day ago
@Monicarocks234 They're deaf, they simply have to accept that they're not equally as qualified for all jobs as normal people. If I had only one arm and wanted to apply for a dishwashing job, I don't have to be shocked if the employer doesn't want to hire me because of my disability. It's the same thing.
Menegoth 1 day ago
That'd be so unpractical. Let her find an office job. I can't see how this is discrimination..
KleineJaapie 2 days ago
Honestly, they don't intervene because the manager does have a point.
hothotheat3000 4 days ago
@hothotheat3000 what is that point? -_-
BongRasta 3 days ago in playlist Season 2011
@BongRasta The point is that restaurants are a busy place, and as a person who's worked in one, I used to have orders and things called out to me all the time. If you can't hear, you will slow the chain of command down. I agree 100% with those human resources people who gave him advice. Don't hire them.
hothotheat3000 3 days ago
@hothotheat3000 thats a pretty closed minded point of view,before a explain u why...u dont need to work or have experience in restaurants to understand it.
but since u believe that helps something ive worked in restaurants too and my grandma even HAS one...and u said WORKED so i believe thats not your job right now,why did u stop if u were so good at it?
point number one-they would work twice better for lots of reasons,such has, NO ONE GIVES THEM A JOB,so when they get one... (continue)
BongRasta 3 days ago
@BongRasta get good at it.
second point is,because of people like you ´´they´´ keep being ABUSED like that and USUALLY become sensitive people.
and finally what kind of shitty restaurant needs to yell to get their order??didnt they hear about new technologies?serious?even my grandma had to install a paper sistem,where the order is made at the table and gets in the kitchen immediatelly,and usefull also to keep track of orders cuz at the end of the month u can use those papers to do ur accountancy
BongRasta 3 days ago
@BongRasta its not only illegal but also a lack of moral values to do such thing...shouldnt u get their life easier man?im discriminated just because of my hair i cant even imagine how them feel when u idiots treat em like this...plus those HR parasites were really rude and lack professionalism.
dawm were are just a bunch of high tek monkeys.... -_-
BongRasta 3 days ago
I know discrimination.
As a white male with no criminal record, I cannot get a job at McDonnalds.
That is all.
Clembo 1 week ago
@Clembo That isn't fair. AT ALL. Hope you can find a job soon!
karinawong623 1 week ago
Man, I've been watching these for a long time now. Contrary to what many may think it's definitely not a waste of time, I think it's imperative that people watch the range of human behaviour and learn from their mistakes.
Agnyaanamdhvamsakah 1 week ago in playlist Season 2011
I CooL! I am Deaf too me! yes!
tiaXetron 1 week ago
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tiaXetron 1 week ago
If that woman is deaf, how does she hear and respond to him? hmm...
MileyLeax911 2 weeks ago
@MileyLeax911 they could read lips.
MahAvarech 2 weeks ago
@MahAvarech- I caught that. Maybe I should just watch the whole thing before I comment, right? ;) Thanks!
MileyLeax911 2 weeks ago
@MileyLeax911 ...she could read lips lmao. Listen :P
Whisperingtothefire 1 week ago
@Whisperingtothefire- Sorry, like I said, I need to learn to not comment until I've watched the ENTIRE video, eh? ;) hahahah! Thanks and God Bless! ;)
MileyLeax911 1 week ago
4:43 Human Resources at its finest. I used to want a job in this field, now I wouldn't take one if I was offered a million dollars.
cerulee 2 weeks ago in playlist Season 2011
@cerulee Why not? If you find out the people in that field are assholes, be the change you want to see in the field. It takes someone to start somewhere.
bnosam 1 week ago
This is plain mean. ii am hard of hearing and ppl dont want to hire me.
713jenna 2 weeks ago
this motivates me to do something in my community. i personally know two people that were fired for being deaf. it is a reality in america. the public, or "normal" people need to step up for those with disabilities. I know these were all actors but it makes me want to do something.
oopxe789 2 weeks ago
Those HR people weren't being immoral or anything. They were giving good advice. Believe it or not, a lot of managers probably would rather hire a person who isn't deaf than someone who is deaf. Howver, deaf people should not be discriminated against.
TolaMacarino 2 weeks ago
I don't know about America but here in UK it's actually illegal to not hire someone because of a disability they have.
hazahaxa 2 weeks ago
@hazahaxa its illegal here.
xLoliChiDesuu 2 weeks ago
@hazahaxa It is illegal here in to. Americans with Disabilities act was into law on July 26, 1990 by George H. W. Bush. That act makes it illegal to discriminated against people with disabilities.
sweetheart2109 2 weeks ago
Human Resources- Yep- i would expect nothing less. They suck. I have had MANY jobs were they even say they are here for you- the employees- but then they go right back and tell the manager EVERYTHING you said to them in confidence!!! They are total backstabbers and experts in sabotage.
JoshGotLength 3 weeks ago
Those people from human resources have been trained with ignorance & shows the discriminating level of recruitment in the workplace, & selection is sometimes based on ticking boxes & token gestures.
When some employees preach about equality it's just a corporate buzz word which sounds good on paper but in reality is not the case
realtimes1980 3 weeks ago in playlist Season 2011
American people does not treath handicapped people good like other countrys do. if you are handicapped more to sweden or norway
PureVikingPower 4 weeks ago in playlist Season 2011
wtf that's like hiring a mentally retarded person to do brain surgery
Hipstoprockathon 1 month ago in playlist Season 2011
@Hipstoprockathon what a ridiculous statement. Someone isn't going to die if they can't understand the deaf person immediately or vice versa
TrueBritishPatriots 1 month ago
I worked at Home Depot with a deaf man. We both worked in the lot. Everybody communicated with radios but that didn't stop him from being one of the best employes the store had.
Nanook9177 1 month ago
I think the best way to show respect is to take their applications,and not hire them instead of rejecting their applications and saying that because they are deaf. Really and sadly, they are not fit...they can find other jobs which are more suitable for them. Not that people must hire them because they are deaf
washitaiwanlan 1 month ago
@washitaiwanlan if they can do the job and don't smell, they should be hired unless someone with better experience/qualifications applies (though even in that case I'd hire the non-experienced as someone needs to give them a chance, but that's preference)
TrueBritishPatriots 1 month ago
Oh for the love of Pete. This is not discrimination! People who cannot hear verbal communication simply are not capable of working in certain job places! How are they supposed to communicate with the other cooks or waiters? I hate the fact that we can lose our hearing but let's keep this real folks. If you cannot hear you need to work in a place that isn't as dependent on verbal communication. An office perhaps but not a kitchen. Sometimes our society can be too liberal -.-
7graywolf7 1 month ago
That sucks but that's teh way it is.
TheTubeTempest 1 month ago
Just a reminder to viewers, the title is misleading in a sense that Deaf people prefer not to be referred to as hearing impaired. That implies that they are broken and want to be fixed - which they aren't and they don't. They are just Deaf. And if they are not completely deaf, rather than hearing impaired, "hard of hearing" is more acceptable.
writerswrock 1 month ago
there are certain jobs that a deaf person isnt very qualified for because they do have issues hearing but something like a kitchen job where the orders should be written down for them and hearing shouldnt be an issue should be a job they can get, i understand not putting them as a receptionist where they have to answer phones or communicate directly with customers but somewhere where written directions are already common, like kitchens, shouldnt be a problem at all
kakkorot13 1 month ago
everyone should have right to hire who he want to hire ye? or he should hire deaf ppl just cos they are deaf?
leedomargus 1 month ago in playlist Season 2011
It is discrimination, BUT if they cannot hear an order being shouted from outside the kitchen, then they really are not fit for it.
Sad reality . . . However they are unfit for the job.
TheSanguineOne 1 month ago
@TheSanguineOne I work in a kitchen, as a sauté chef. The waitresses have booklets, they write what is ordered on it, then stick it on the board . Even though I'm not a chef, they rarely need to talk to you. Maybe twice in a 5 hour shift some one shouts something out. Usually they forgot the drink.
HyperAndHappy 1 month ago
@HyperAndHappy That is amazing! I had no idea . . . Sorry for sounding so close-minded.
TheSanguineOne 1 month ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Lol... No offence, but I actually agree with the bartender or whatever you call the guy.
gangstervural 1 month ago
muahahaha, i love this show! i almost feel evil just watching this.
DjDakanaz 1 month ago
those three should be fired fucking bitches
TheBrandond20 1 month ago
@TheBrandond20 i agree. HR is the devil!
htownhomie06 1 month ago
Great series.
Dsgooden 1 month ago in playlist Season 2011
1:34 sound like a asian
hitnrun716 1 month ago
I live in the same city as NTID is in :) Was nice to see ROC put up there for once in a positive light.
vykusiEclectic 1 month ago
I do not tell people that I am half deaf for this reason.
alwaysapathetic2 1 month ago
@alwaysapathetic2 omg, me too.
4everyours7 1 month ago
@4everyours7 I have no hearing in my left ear. I can feel vibrations but nothing else. I lost it after a horrible ear infection.
alwaysapathetic2 1 month ago
ABC NEWS! CHANGE THE NAME! THESE WOMEN ARE NOT "HEARING IMPAIRED", THEY ARE DEAF! HEARING IMPAIRED IS CONSIDERED HIGHLY OFFENSIVE BY MOST DEAF PEOPLE.
BenASL 1 month ago
@BenASL really? I didn't know that.
rsgirl10 1 month ago
@rsgirl10 yep :)
BenASL 1 month ago
My brother is 12 and a couple of years ago he lost all hearing in his left ear and most in his right. My brother was born 2 months earily and is legaly blind. I hope stuff like this will never happen to him..... I hope.
rekrap200 1 month ago
When I turned 11 - years old, I had lost hearing in one ear & so sometimes people think I can't hear them, but they'd be surprised because I can hear things more clearly then before!
ifyoucatchmydriftbud 1 month ago
i saw a lot of episodes....i agree with all except this one....
awarapun72033035 2 months ago
@awarapun72033035
Really? I'd rather hire someone who can't help being deaf but has learned to adapt, then hire someone whos chosen to be blind and remain stagnant.
DeviousToster 2 months ago
@DeviousToster no man....it is right of the owner to hire someone whom he think is qualified for job....if he dont think so....then he can say no....
awarapun72033035 1 month ago
@awarapun72033035 Obviously they would have been quite capable of working there since she was able to read his lips when he first started talking to her AND she responded. This is called a conversation and communication.. get a life..
EuroStatus1985 1 month ago
I love this show and agree with most of it but this segment is pretty retarded, if you are the owner of a business, it is your right to hire whoever the fuck you want. I wouldn't hire a fucking deaf person in the kitchen, that is not even outragious at all, I think it is normal and this is just life, not everything is fair in this world. He is being honest and that is cool, this is not a bum bashing episode where you should intervene because it is the right thing to do.
fredsalt1 2 months ago
is that blonde girl really deaf? she is incredible talented. She almost sounds like an non deaf person and reads lips perfectly! O:
HardCoreKing360 2 months ago
@HardCoreKing360 She might've lost her hearing later in life (and had already been speaking for years) and might be around more hearing people than the other girl (and therefore has to read lips more often). A friend of mine didn't lose his hearing until he was 12 so he doesn't really have a deaf accent.
lexi219 1 month ago
but listen to them, they're also retarded because of their deafness. you can tell it by listening to their speech.
TheColaCandy 2 months ago
@TheColaCandy You obviously don't know how being deaf works, and that's pretty sad.
When you can't hear a word, it's hard to fully understand how to pronounce it. I'd love to see how you'd fair if someone took away your hearing. You'd probably just kill yourself because of how difficult it would be.
SeanTheOriginal 2 months ago
@SeanTheOriginal
why hire someone who could slow your job down?
ROBOOT103 2 months ago
@TheColaCandy you are an imbecile! Not being able to hear is completely different then being mentally challenged. The way we learn how to speak when we are young is by listening to our parents and other adults speak around us and we formulate what words are supposed to sound like! If you grow up not being able to hear or only being able to hear small noises it is remarkable that speech is even a possibility. Educate yourself! Learning speech without sound is like learning colors minus sight
8jjr2 2 months ago
This Discrimination is an abomination, but we all need to understand that this does have it's limits. Like the video implies. You will obviously be discriminated against if you are deaf and are trying to join the SWAT or police force.
NismoBao 2 months ago
This is so right to a key! My husbend is Legaly blind and him trying to find work is really hard becuse they think that he can't do the same job that others can. And he keeps showing everyone that he can over and over again!
Wiccan2068 2 months ago
WHAAAT?
AsMeMyselfAndI 2 months ago
Amazing how deaf people can learn to speak :D
kutekitty7 2 months ago
@kutekitty7 some deaf ppl cant spaek at all but others can learn to speak. thats why if you listen to a deaf person speak the words sound weird, like they arent assembled correctly, but if you listen closely you can decifer what they are saying 1:35
it also depends on the level of hearing the deaf person is at if you are profoundly deaf then you can only read lips & sign, but if you are (from low to high): Unilateral >>Mild >>Moderate hearing loss>>Severe hearing loss>>Profound hearing loss
PrincessDMSB 2 months ago
@kutekitty7
PrincessDMSB 2 months ago
1:52, she's pretty
nstrikefromnerfhaven 2 months ago
@nstrikefromnerfhaven Totally agree
djazr 2 months ago
Look if you think you need a hearing person to do the job right then you can't hire a deaf one. Just like a fat chick can't be a runway model. Just like a blind guy can't be a bus driver. Just like a 64 year old lady can't be a furniture mover. What next? Do we let mentally disabled people do heart transplants so they wont be discriminated against? There are places that find appropriate work for the handicapped.
Vegheadsrock 2 months ago
@Vegheadsrock Deaf people are just as capable as hearing people. They are not "handicapped." If she is qualified to do the job, then he cannot deny her based on her being Deaf.
If one of the job specifications expressly requires hearing (e.g. hearing an alarm/machine), then yeah, he can deny her application. This job did not expressly require hearing, therefore, she has just as much of a right to get the job as a hearing person. Denying that is discrimination, plain and simple.
purplewowies 2 months ago
@indieopium Okay thanks that clears a lot up, thanks! :)
LaurenAndMartaShow 2 months ago
This is bullshit... I am pretty sure that being able to hear is quite an important part of applying for work. It's like me suing a modelling agency for not finding me good looking enough, or suing nuclear power plant for saying that I am not intelligent enough.
He is trying to run a business and is not a charity shop. I don't get why everyone thinks like people owe them something.
1MadVirus1 2 months ago
@1MadVirus1 Just because she can't hear doesn't mean she can't do the job. It's called reasonable accommodation. Yours is the sort of attitude that prevents my legally blind cousin from easily finding work. She applies for retail and even though she still has much of her vision they assume she is incapable. also, my grandmother has severe tinnitus in one ear and is deaf in the other, and she was a high school teacher. If she can keep control over thirty kids at once, this girl can cook.
maximusx3 2 months ago
I have 2 deaf uncles with Coclier(spelling?) implants. I'm slowly learning sign language, and I think that deaf culture is fasinating. It's horrible how people treat them sometimes. I hope that things change, especially since they don't choose to be deaf. I'm sorry to anyone that has been discrimated agaisnt whether it was because of an impairment or race, or anything else. I love this show because it reveals what really goes on in the world around us.
amboo1003 2 months ago in playlist Season 2011
I am 14 years old, and I am really interested in knowing this. I usually thought deaf people were mute (some being not mute, I know) Can someone explain how they can hear the barista if they are deaf? I mean I know some can hear a bit, though. No rude replies :)
LaurenAndMartaShow 2 months ago
@LaurenAndMartaShow They can read lips.
BuyAFrame 2 months ago
@LaurenAndMartaShow 'They read lips :) Notice how they look at his face the entire time. And deaf people aren't mute. They just have a severe speech impediment . Just like hearing people, deaf people have an inner voice and they use that to communicate orally; how clearly they speak is determined by how long they've been deaf. People who have been deaf their entire lives, have an inner voice - they are just really hard to understand. Hope that answers some questions :)
indieopium 2 months ago
@LaurenAndMartaShow Well, you just answered your own question. Some of them are only partially deaf. They also have special hearing aids (earpiece which amplifies sound)
1MadVirus1 2 months ago
so everytime you take training on no discrimination and what not... they are fucking lying... WOW... i use to work in retail and they are all like we will except anyone no matter the disability... wtf... fucking HR is full of shit... im so glad i left AAFES... oh by the way AAFES IS FULL OF SHIT!!
shorty1469 3 months ago
This is why Canada is one of the msot common places for immigrants to coem to! We alow people from black to white to deaf to blind. From British to African American/Canadian
Minimoonfan123 3 months ago
@1:34 he's not deaf, he's just Asian
LynxPointMama 3 months ago
@PeculiarTactics yes, I agree, and I understand... If you didn't read my comment properly, I wrote that I AM deaf!
The point I'm making is that adapting to change can happen all it wants, however that's not going to change the fact that I can't hear people speak to me.
MrLc6 3 months ago
and yea handicapped people have most of the rights in the world.......and there are not enough jobs for normal people lest they be given to ppl with disabilities .....we also have to work to make a living..
pingufromindia 3 months ago
@pingufromindia I suggest you read Chapter 7 "The Terror of the Machine" in "My life and my work" written by Henry Ford.
Ford states that they hired disabled / crippled to come work at the factory.
"At the time of the last analysis of employed, there were 9,503 sub-standard men. 123 had crippled, amputated arms/forearms/hands. 1 had both hands off. 4 totally blind. 237 blind in one eye.253 with one eye nearly blind. 37 deaf and dumb. 60 epileptics.
indieopium 2 months ago
@pingufromindia 4 with both legs or feet missing. 234 with one foot or leg missing. The others had minor impediments. "
All these people were above usual product; meaning they did a much better job than "able" people.
Disabled people also need to make a living.
indieopium 2 months ago
@pingufromindia *Usual production.
indieopium 2 months ago
what wud they come up with next....a blind guy who wants to join air force but is being discriminated against???
pingufromindia 3 months ago
This doesn't really surprise me. Discrimination still occurs everywhere. That manager shouldn't have made a scene. He should have just accepted her application because now she has proof that the manager was in violation of the ADA law. She can come after the manager if she chooses to.
With that being said, many employers are willing to hire deaf people but in some workplaces it can be challenging due to the communication barrier.
IcyBlueQuartz 3 months ago
Fuck human resources
KonnichiwaSushi 3 months ago
I think it really depends on the job and person. If the deaf person can do as good (if not better) a job, sure, why not. But If they can't give me 100%, I don't see why I shouldn't hire someone who can.
giantrobots1122 3 months ago in playlist Season 2011
The guy should have been like. "Do you understand the words that are comin' outta my mouth?" lol
Eagle971 3 months ago
what i would do: i would laugh
DaKingKush1 3 months ago
i understand what the recruiters meant. the manager firmly stated that s/he would hire them because they are deaf. it's all part of their managing strategy.. they only suggested like a more subtle way to just say NO.
SuperKomentarista 3 months ago
am deaf full. this asshole hearing very idiot! hearing don't know how respect so be nice convastion for deaf for job apply. alike racist slave black 1800's part two deaf centeny 21 no body hired for deaf? it fuck up
marcosg360 3 months ago
This is the worst episode. The people from human resources were right, the manager handled it the wrong way, but jesus christ it's not discrimination, it's simply impractical.
Would you hire a one-armed person to be your driver?
Would you hire a midget to be a bouncer?
I wouldn't and I've got nothing against handicapped people and I think the reasons are quite obvious.
phulei 3 months ago
@phulei it is discrimination you dipshit! it's fucking illegal! he has to hire based on qualifications.
MsDDiddy 3 months ago
@MsDDiddy Being able to hear makes you more qualified. I know the guy said it's only a kitchen job but for whoever has worked in a cafe before you would know it's not simply just that. Like the guy said "what if I shout something to the kitchen?" and "What if I need something done right away?" These are common things that happen everyday at work. It's wrong that he made a scene out of the whole thing but sorry mate, truth hurts, it would make life much easier hiring other people.
phulei 3 months ago
@phulei That girl can obviously read lips very well, and speaks well too. The only thing that's different about her is that she can't hear. Big deal! My cousin is deaf, but she reads lips and she's very good at it. Most people don't even know she's deaf.
The girl in the video just wants a kitchen job. You don't need to hear to cook.
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
@phulei
I agree, even if she can do it it would involve more work on the managers part to explain things. This was really dumb..
MiCorazonDeOro 3 months ago
Whoa ... that girl acted in the movie "Teeth."
TheNilesEdge 3 months ago
I'm a non-hearing person in the UK and I don't bother applying to jobs which pretty much rely on the communication between two people. I have to have an interpreter with me because it's not always possible to lip read if you're not facing the person. To me it just seems silly to hire 2 people to do a job which 1 hearing person could do alone. I'm fine with that, I understand why it's not practical. I think some people need to realise this too. Not everywhere can afford 2 people in the space of 1
MrLc6 3 months ago
@MrLc6 What you fail to understand is that recent discoveries in Neuroscience have proven that people who have disabilities ( such as deafness ) are able to adapt to that change. The brain actually compensates for it, as it strengthens and focuses on the other senses to make them stronger so it can balance out and equal the loss of whatever sense is not functioning properly. People who are deaf i guarantee can read body language better than anyone else.
PeculiarTactics 3 months ago
Doesnt make much sense to me. Ludwig Van Bheetoven was deaf and he still crafted musical pieces that are universally accepted as some of the greatest works of art in the history of the human species. Humans are animals and like any other animal when our environment changes we adapt to survive. Nueroscience has proven that people that have disabilities like deafness have a sense of vision and touch that is 5X better than a non disabled person. The brain compensates for the disability.
PeculiarTactics 3 months ago
those human resources people are the stupid people in the world.
PCade01 3 months ago in playlist Primetime
Some of you people are absolute Jerks. My parents are deaf and I know many deaf people, and just because they are deaf, doesn't mean they aren't capable to do things. Deaf people are people too, and if they need help, then you should be a courteous selfless human being. But never discriminate or assume that a person can't do something, just because they have a disability.
- A CODA
AmyJFisher323 3 months ago
@AmyJFisher323 I want to agree with you, but a business owner's entire livelihood depends on how well their business performs, and unfortunately, most customers are judgmental. It takes a second for a customer to decide to shop somewhere, or drive on and visit the other place down the street.
TheNilesEdge 3 months ago
God Damn! Its not discrimination if you aren't able to do a job as good as someone. The americans with disabilities act is bullshit
aemilius9 3 months ago
@aemilius9
So right.
magicidiot12345 3 months ago
@aemilius9 agree.
JialiangSun 3 months ago
2:00 hot deaf girl.
toyouiwill 3 months ago
but that manger is somewhat true
WhatIfDude24503 3 months ago
This is SAD sad sad!!! Have we as human beings sunk this low? GOD isn't happy about it!!
inconvenientruth1 3 months ago
@inconvenientruth1 what god?
vincetube11 3 months ago
@inconvenientruth1 i agrre with u though
vincetube11 3 months ago
actually, obviously my brother is a Deaf adult also haven't Job, who is disability. feel bad.
greeting from Colombia.
ycaruzob 3 months ago
My plan for the future is to start an all-autistic software company. I would hire mid-high functioning autistics and people with Aspergers. Some of them would work only a few hours, or work at home, but I would give them a feeling of purpose, and it would be a true feeling. And the high-functioning people would work normally.
Xaisede 4 months ago in playlist Season 2011
@Xaisede Ever read Girl with the Dragon Tattoo?
exploremagic23 3 months ago
I heard of a cafe in Paris where all the employee's are deaf, and the people go there because everything is so neat, and the people are so great....so really it would be great to see more of that everywhere. Even when you go into some Vietnamese Restaurants you have to "order" by writing the number on a paper.
Jan4Solar 4 months ago
Deaf people are interesting to me. Frankly, I'd make an effort to elarn sign language so we could break the communication barrier.
Wootedness 4 months ago
Damnnn one of the deaf chick in the interview is hot as hell.
guitarhamster102 4 months ago
well for one....hearing impaired is pretty fucking offensive of a term. Deaf is a better way to say it.
badabingbambino 4 months ago
A managers job is to hire the person most fit for the job, and deaf people are not as fit for a service job as people who are not deaf.
DejaPoo909 4 months ago
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DARTHZANRUIT 4 months ago
@DejaPoo909 a pearson who is trolling is supposed to be good at it. you sir are not.
haymor1234 4 months ago
@DejaPoo909 That's bull. Deaf people aren't dumb. They just have low to nil ability to hear. I worked with two women at a public library and they were just as good at their job as anyone else. I work in a coffee shop with a guy who's 100% blind. Disabilities are only disabilities to those who have always had said ability. It's everyday life to anyone with said "diasabiolities".
PaddySnuffles 4 months ago
Not hiring her because she's deaf and not hiring her because she's not a fit is the same thing. Some jobs require people to be able to hear and listen to commands of the manager. It's his coffee shop he can choose to hire and not hire whoever he wants.
superfreshjeff07 4 months ago
deaf people shouldn't be discriminated against, but at the same time they shouldn't be given more rights than normal people. the employer has all the right to not hire the deaf people for the kitchen job if he believes that the disability is going to affect how well they can function in the kitchen. if it had been something that doesn't require hearing, then the deaf should be given the job only if he is able to work more efficiently than other people, not just because they're deaf and we pity t
chriztafa 4 months ago
I HATE RECRUITERS THE MOST, THEY ARE SCUM. THEY ARE USUALLY THE DUMB PEOPLE ON THE STREET WITH NO QUALIFICATIONS THAT GET THAT JOB. AND THEY ARE RUDE AS HELL. Well...Not all but most in my experience
roggy12345 4 months ago
Human Resources are all fucking asses!
fighterjsl 4 months ago
are those people just deaf or retarded as well?? because they sound like retards when they talk
chriztafa 4 months ago
@chriztafa
first of all, retard isnt a nice word. second deaf people cant hear themselves talk and usually dont learn to talk for many many years, so it tends to sound odd to hearing people who can control the pitch and sound of their voices. they are deffinatly not mentaly disabled.
Adyma1997 4 months ago
Surely you need to be able to speak to work in some jobs? Even if that sounds harsh on the face of it, it seems to be perfectly justifiable here.
Anyone who's worked in a restaurant kitchen can tell you that you need to be ready to have orders shouted your way so you can prepare them.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs I've worked at the headquarters of a large chain store with a woman who was blind and she did just as well, if not better, than many of the other people in the office. Please don't be so quick to judge what a person CAN'T do, and focus on what they CAN do.
liquidgee13 4 months ago
@liquidgee13
In all honesty, I think your story is pretty much crap. Working in an office is hardly the same as a job where one needs to deal with people and physically work, as in my example and as in the video. Besides which, there is no plausible way a blind person could function in an office environement. What the hell could they even do?
You're only as strong as your weakest link. But oh, I'm sorry, I must've forgotten! Business doesn't work on money, it runs on good intentions, right?
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs I think you're right, my story is crap ... the woman I worked wasn't blind, she just couldn't see. You're the one who is disabled one DrownedBeliefs as you're blind to a person's abilities since you focus on what someone CAN'T do rather than what they CAN do. I'm glad I don't work with or for you.
liquidgee13 4 months ago
@liquidgee13
I've noticed you've conveniently avoided my question as to what she was actually able to do in an office environement. Whether you like it or not, such a person IS limited in what they can do (if anything) and if they are employed, it is because companies have to fill quotas. They must have so many women, so many minority races, so many disabled people.
I'm not talking about taking an idealistic approach here, I'm taking a realistic one because that's how employers operate.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs Wow..Are you saying that people who are deaf and hard of hearing are unable to be good employees?It's not as if people who cannot hear are unable to think as well as someone who is hearing.My mother is hard of hearing and knows sign language,but reads lips very well,and one of the best employees at the post office. I know that a job answering a phone would not be ideal, but there are many jobs that don't require one to hear. I guess there's no reasoning with ignorance.
mytimeisablur 4 months ago
@mytimeisablur
Yes. I quite agree that there are many jobs that don't require one to hear. But, Christ, it appears you haven't noticed! A kitchen job ISN'T bloody one of them, genius! If you'd even taken the time to even WATCH how a kitchen operates, you'd know that.
I've already explained that orders are shouted into the kitchen. Hearing is a must for working in a restaurant, which was the initial point I made.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs
you are completely underestimating what disabled people can do. they have had to live their entire lives in a hearing world and have had to addap to live in it. deaf people have lived in our society for thousands of years and know how to communicate without hearing. your assuming that just because they cant do something we can that they cant do anything like us. for a teacher you should educate yourself somemore.
Adyma1997 4 months ago
@Adyma1997
So what? It doesn't change the fact that a deaf person cannot work in a kitchen. Hearing is required for the job, it's really that simple. It's no different to the fact that a paraplegic is not qualified to become a heavy lifter.
I've no doubt deaf people have to work hard, and it is a sad fact of life that they are unable to the job, but there is no getting around it. Start living in the real world. Deaf people are not suitable for a kitchen job. It isn't a difficult concept.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs
how do you know? have you seen a deaf person try to work in akitchen. im starting to dout youve ever met a deaf person. deaf people can do a job just as good as we can. if they couldnt what kind of jobs could they get? and who says a parapalegic couldnt be a heavy lifter? they have the use of there upper body. stop douting people you dont know. anyone can do anything if they commit to it. a 100 years ago being a woman ment you couldnt do what men did. but we changed that.
Adyma1997 4 months ago
@Adyma1997
I've worked in a kitchen for five years, as mentioned, so yes, I'm fully aware that I would not have been able to function in that environment without my hearing. The deaf can get jobs that don't require hearing, obviously... and that you think a paraplegic can lift weights just highlights your idiocy. Paraplegia is associated with brittle bones and a weak frame, hence WHY they can't walk.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs
first of all a parapaligia means that you have know feelng or use in two of your limbs. most times the rest of your body is fine. and how do you know that a deaf person couldnt do it? youve never seen one try because you probly never met a deaf person. your judjing them not on all the things they can do but on one they cant. they wouldnt do things the same way of course but they know ways to do jobs like these without hearing.
Adyma1997 4 months ago
@Adyma1997
Fine, let's say a quadraplegic. Are they qualified? You're getting into the realms of the ridiculous, here; I mean, it's perfectly logical to say someone who cannot move their arms cannot do a job that requires usage of the arms. There's nothing 'discriminatory' or 'intolerant' about that.
I know a deaf person couldn't do it because I've had five years experience in that field... I am perfectly able to say that having done the job and understanding how vital hearing is for it.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@Adyma1997
It doesn't matter if I've never seen it happen, it happens because it wouldn't work. Same deal with the quadraplegic heavy lifter.
My grandfather is, indeed, deaf, but even if I DIDN'T know anyone who was deaf, why would that matter? I'm looking at what they are NOT qualified for because this episode of WWYD rejected them on that basis.
Your argument amounts to you whining that the damned thing isn't fair. It's irrelevant. They simply aren't able to do the job. Tough shit.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs
enjoy your closed minded existance. i hope that when you say things like this to a disabled person they can talk some sence into you.
Adyma1997 4 months ago
@Adyma1997
Yeah, I particularly liked how you completely dodged the point when you realised it is an inherently logical argument and you are talking out of your arse.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs
yeah... sure
Adyma1997 4 months ago
@liquidgee13
Hell, I doubt you've even HAD a job if you believe that's a reasonable position to take. Do you think McDonalds say 'Oh, he's an alcoholic and is constantly late for work, but he's GREAT at flipping burgers'? Of course not.
'Oh, she's blind and can't do half the tasks a person with sight could, but she's a FANTASTIC... erm... what can she do again?'
Silly, plain and simple. It doesn't matter how much you WISH the world worked this way, the intrinsic fact is that it does not.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs Are you seriously comparing alcoholism to being deaf? I have to get back to work now so I can fund your food stamps and social security benefits.
liquidgee13 4 months ago
@liquidgee13
I love how you missed the entire point deliberately, misconstrued the example, and ultimately dwelled on the most minute, irrelevant bloody detail in my point in order to avoid addressing what I posed to you. It's called an 'example'. It 'examplifies' something. I drew a comparison between two lines of logic. I think that's obvious even to anyone with the most basic grasp of English. Hell, even to you.
I'm not American. We don't have 'food stamps'. I'm a teacher, for God's sake.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs That you're a teacher explains much not the least of which is that comparing a person who can't hear or see to an alcoholic is a piss poor "example". Yes, you've lived up to the low expectation of teachers everywhere - YOU are the weakest link.
I'm glad I was never one of your students. Go to hell.
liquidgee13 4 months ago
@liquidgee13
Look. I'll explain this VERY SIMPLY because you appear unable to follow a simple line of thought.
Right. If someone has one quality that might make him a GOOD worker, yet has one quality which COMPLETELY EXCLUDES him from that line of work, he will NOT GET that job.
It doesn't matter what quality 2 is. It could be disability, it could be addiction, it could be unintellgence, uncooperativity, anything! Does that not make sense to you? Is that really so damned hard to understand?
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago
@DrownedBeliefs It's a damn good thing for you that your employer overlooked your quality of being a narrow minded ass then isn't it or you'd be out of a job wouldn't you?
liquidgee13 4 months ago
@liquidgee13
How is that narrow minded? Unless you're telling me a deaf person is just as qualified to work a job answering the telephone as anyone else, there is absolutely no consistency in what you're saying. Of course, if you are trying to tell me as such, then there's no logic, either.
DrownedBeliefs 4 months ago