Transatlantic - X. Pieces of Heaven(Live From Shepherd's Bush Empire, London)

[Novaliis83]

Pete's face at 00:11 ''Problem''? lol

[chimptor50]

Again.............WHYYYYYYYYYY­YYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ASmallTurnip67]

The additive meter thing only works for irregular groupings of beats that are all of the same length. In your example, it would have to be 10+1+10+1/8 not 5/4 + 1/8 + 5/4 + 1/8.

Anyway, its much easier to count to 11 especially if you use Mike Mangini's "Not Quite Double" approach. 11 is counted as 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5 & 6 - dropping the last &.

Count the cross stick beats this way and it all makes sense

:-)

[ASmallTurnip67]

Love the 8 bars of 11/4 at the start of this track. Mike Portnoy even helps you out by nodding his head on beat 1!

[BenjaminProd]

@ASmallTurnip67 Those are not ACTUALLY 11/4, I mean, you could count them as such. But they are actually 5/4 + 1/8 + 5/4 + 1/8, those add up to 11/4, and you could play it straight-forward as 11/4, but it would become polyrhythmic.

[ASmallTurnip67]

@BenjaminProd Hmmm, you need to look up the definition of "polyrhythm" - its when two or more independent rhythms are played simultaneously. Here, if someone played say 6 across this 11, then you'd have a polyrhythm, but everyone's playing the same rhythmical structure.

Mike is playing cross-stick on the snare on alternate odd beats of an 11/4 bar 1,3,5,7,9,11.

BTW, its incorrect to designate a time signature of one beat in the bar unless its part of an additive meter - which this isn't

[BenjaminProd]

@ASmallTurnip67 You're right, I'm sorry. Although I don't agree to the additive meter thing.. I believe that music is just arithmetic. Doing what I said is perfectly legit imo, I have no music theory knowledge however, but this is the way I think. Excuse me if I'm wrong.

[blackbloodyalex]

LOVE THE DRUMS !!!!

[TheKebinger]

the best prog-rock band, with some of the the best musicains!!!

[elpotro31]

premiatta forneria marconi

[akopocmichael]

genesis? hehe :)

[Madrows]

my favorite prog part of this hole song =D