When you provide wildlife with generous amounts of bait feed, they will be numerous and big and healthy and folks who enjoy shooting animals, watching them, die, cutting them up, eating them, and decorating their homes with them can find all sorts of justification for how much they love these animals. Yeah, we know.
@walk4trot2canter3 Why would someone feed animals right AFTER the season ended? its because we want them to survive. I feed pheasants every year corn and grain, but wait until after the season is over so that they can't be shot while eating. when the next season comes, We only manage to shoot a few of the birds, we never wipe them out. if you don't hunt, you wouldn't understand how hunters actually think and feel. So until you start hunting you have no say in the matter.
It aint sport unless that animal has an equal chance of killing you as you do of killing it. That mean if u really a hunter get out there with a knife and go man vs. beast and see who lives. Don't have ems or some medic on hand, don't have a bunch of friends on hand to kill the animal of it gets the upper hand, just you and it. By definition the deck is stacked in favor of the hunter so it's cant be a sport. In sport each side has the same rules and an equal chance of winning.
@tical2399 if you have a knife it may not kill it and just injur it.... so useing a high enough caliber rifle will kill its strait off. and say a fox kills a rabbit the rabbit dosent have a fair chance? a bear kills fish the fish dont have a chance? a lion kills a buffolo the bussolo dosent have a fair chance? we kill deer the deer dosent have a fair chance? its called life and the food chain! its natural to hunt all our older relations hunted we wear created to hunt.
@HarveyTheHunter, the main problem I have with firearm hunting is that it negates natural selection. Animals can and often are killed at hundreds of yards distant, way beyond 'wolf distance' and out of range of the animals sensory zone. They really don't stand much of a chance and even the best adapted of their lot will easily get removed from the gene pool.
@65DegN but if their instinct is not to go out into the open its still fair as a 500 yard shot will be imposible in woods and cover but as i do i have to controll the number of rabbits for the farmer down the road as they aare doing some real damage to his crop! so i have to make long shots so they dont see me.
@65DegN This is possibly the best argument against hunting that I have seen (I am talking about true hunting, not ranch "hunting"). I agree with you totally that this can be an issue, particularly in areas that are heavily hunted. That said, for every deer with "good genes" that is killed by a hunter, several deer with equally good genes get hit by vehicles.
Personally if I were to try to help deer, I would find a way to keep them off the roads.
@mobiussquadron, I am not against hunting as I am a long time bowhunter. But I do believe that with a more primitive bow like a recurve or longbow, the hunter has to be well within the animals sensory range where the smallest sound or scent carried on a stray wind will alert a wary animal. Typically this distance is well within what I call 'wolf distance' the distance that a predator will begin a stalk on it's pray.
@65DegN Ahh, In the woods around here you rarely get a sight of any animal at ranges of more than 50 to 75 feet, which I know from experience is well within their sensory range. I suppose my view on hunting is primarily affected by that, so I cannot speak either way for areas where longer shots are common.
people that hunt do not love the animals, they love killing. the love spilling blood and taking the life of an animal. that gets their rocks off. I know because I grew up in a family of hunters in a community of hunters. They love chasing down an animal in it's own home and killing it. That's fun to them. I knew hunters that would get friends to buy tags for them so they could kill again and again. They'd give away the carcasses, didn't want the meat.
@jwallbanger like the guy said in the viedo theres always going to be those few bad apples.90 percent of hunters are ethical and eat the meat they killed.and to most its not about th kill its about the experince of being in the outdoors.
@stevethebowhunter well, i grew up around hunters in idaho. my experience was that the majority were bad apples. the exception to the rule was the ones who respected the land and killed primarily for the meat.
mostly i saw beer cans, plastic and tp being left all over the woods, neon ribbon left on trees, people shooting anything that moves from car windows and pick up beds, poaching elk to bait bears - just bloodthirsty rednecks having stupid fun and leaving a mess.
In reply to one of the statements below,Yes,there have been cases of serial killer claiming to love their victims.Bundy claimed to have loved several of his victims.
This guy isnt saying that you have to like, want to pet the animal, he's saying that to be a true ethical hunter you have to respect it first. Knowing what its giving us (food) now you can hate on me all you want, but its respect that this guy is talking about.
@nakiommi hunting allows the hunter to enter into the animals world and offers the possibility of a more intimate understanding of the animals life. This can bring about a great respect and appreciation for the animal, quite unlike a farm animal raised for meat. I really enjoy deer, I enjoy watching them, and hunting them. I have even slipped into a herd on Vancouver Is. right out in an open field and moved around with them as they grazed for >an hour at dusk, it was an amazing experience.
@nakiommi Unless you're a vegetarian, some animal has to die for you to eat. If someone wants to kill it himself that's his choice. He's free to do that, just as you're free to be a little bitch.
I wonder if serial killers say the reason they kill too is because they "love" their victims.That man is a complete idiot. It seems like as a society we think less of animals than we do of ourselves , even though they can feel pain just as we do.
@theycallmelizzy1 Animals kill each other all the time. And I have no idea what this guys smoking saying that we can hunt them because we love them. I know I do it because its challenging and fun. It also can help the environments balance of the population.
When you provide wildlife with generous amounts of bait feed, they will be numerous and big and healthy and folks who enjoy shooting animals, watching them, die, cutting them up, eating them, and decorating their homes with them can find all sorts of justification for how much they love these animals. Yeah, we know.
walk4trot2canter3 4 weeks ago
@walk4trot2canter3 Why would someone feed animals right AFTER the season ended? its because we want them to survive. I feed pheasants every year corn and grain, but wait until after the season is over so that they can't be shot while eating. when the next season comes, We only manage to shoot a few of the birds, we never wipe them out. if you don't hunt, you wouldn't understand how hunters actually think and feel. So until you start hunting you have no say in the matter.
jjw2795 3 weeks ago
I kill it because I love it. Yeah, I said that about carrots. Then I ate them.
fatdaddy1996 1 month ago
go hunt puppies
GrandMasterJuan 1 month ago
How the **** is hunting a "fair chase"? What prey do you know packs a telescopic rifle?
UrukEngineer 1 month ago
@UrukEngineer the rifle isent telescopic. you clearly know nothing about shooting or hunting. go away
HarveyTheHunter 1 month ago
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@HarveyTheHunter "the rifle isent telescopic you clearly know nothing about shooting or hunting. go away"
Hmmm, do you think that hunting is ethical, if so, why?
Do you enjoy killing things?
UrukEngineer 1 month ago
It aint sport unless that animal has an equal chance of killing you as you do of killing it. That mean if u really a hunter get out there with a knife and go man vs. beast and see who lives. Don't have ems or some medic on hand, don't have a bunch of friends on hand to kill the animal of it gets the upper hand, just you and it. By definition the deck is stacked in favor of the hunter so it's cant be a sport. In sport each side has the same rules and an equal chance of winning.
tical2399 1 month ago
@tical2399 if you have a knife it may not kill it and just injur it.... so useing a high enough caliber rifle will kill its strait off. and say a fox kills a rabbit the rabbit dosent have a fair chance? a bear kills fish the fish dont have a chance? a lion kills a buffolo the bussolo dosent have a fair chance? we kill deer the deer dosent have a fair chance? its called life and the food chain! its natural to hunt all our older relations hunted we wear created to hunt.
HarveyTheHunter 1 month ago
@HarveyTheHunter, the main problem I have with firearm hunting is that it negates natural selection. Animals can and often are killed at hundreds of yards distant, way beyond 'wolf distance' and out of range of the animals sensory zone. They really don't stand much of a chance and even the best adapted of their lot will easily get removed from the gene pool.
65DegN 1 month ago
@65DegN but if their instinct is not to go out into the open its still fair as a 500 yard shot will be imposible in woods and cover but as i do i have to controll the number of rabbits for the farmer down the road as they aare doing some real damage to his crop! so i have to make long shots so they dont see me.
HarveyTheHunter 1 month ago
@65DegN This is possibly the best argument against hunting that I have seen (I am talking about true hunting, not ranch "hunting"). I agree with you totally that this can be an issue, particularly in areas that are heavily hunted. That said, for every deer with "good genes" that is killed by a hunter, several deer with equally good genes get hit by vehicles.
Personally if I were to try to help deer, I would find a way to keep them off the roads.
A clean shot is also less painful than a truck ;)
mobiussquadron 1 month ago
@mobiussquadron, I am not against hunting as I am a long time bowhunter. But I do believe that with a more primitive bow like a recurve or longbow, the hunter has to be well within the animals sensory range where the smallest sound or scent carried on a stray wind will alert a wary animal. Typically this distance is well within what I call 'wolf distance' the distance that a predator will begin a stalk on it's pray.
65DegN 1 month ago
@65DegN Ahh, In the woods around here you rarely get a sight of any animal at ranges of more than 50 to 75 feet, which I know from experience is well within their sensory range. I suppose my view on hunting is primarily affected by that, so I cannot speak either way for areas where longer shots are common.
mobiussquadron 1 month ago
how about adding grizzlies and lions and you hunting with a bow and arrow to even the score
RuthiePople 1 month ago
@RuthiePople I love bow hunting bear myself.
wolfmeadows 1 month ago
@Ruthie, People hunt large predators with a bow but unless I am going to eat it I won't shoot it and I have no desire to eat brown bear.
65DegN 1 month ago
people that hunt do not love the animals, they love killing. the love spilling blood and taking the life of an animal. that gets their rocks off. I know because I grew up in a family of hunters in a community of hunters. They love chasing down an animal in it's own home and killing it. That's fun to them. I knew hunters that would get friends to buy tags for them so they could kill again and again. They'd give away the carcasses, didn't want the meat.
Hunters litter too. Hunters suck.
jwallbanger 1 month ago
@jwallbanger like the guy said in the viedo theres always going to be those few bad apples.90 percent of hunters are ethical and eat the meat they killed.and to most its not about th kill its about the experince of being in the outdoors.
stevethebowhunter 1 month ago
@stevethebowhunter well, i grew up around hunters in idaho. my experience was that the majority were bad apples. the exception to the rule was the ones who respected the land and killed primarily for the meat.
mostly i saw beer cans, plastic and tp being left all over the woods, neon ribbon left on trees, people shooting anything that moves from car windows and pick up beds, poaching elk to bait bears - just bloodthirsty rednecks having stupid fun and leaving a mess.
jwallbanger 1 month ago
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Pro-hunting: It's ethical when done right!
Apxithas 1 month ago
In reply to one of the statements below,Yes,there have been cases of serial killer claiming to love their victims.Bundy claimed to have loved several of his victims.
biggfingger5 1 month ago
This guy isnt saying that you have to like, want to pet the animal, he's saying that to be a true ethical hunter you have to respect it first. Knowing what its giving us (food) now you can hate on me all you want, but its respect that this guy is talking about.
Mrpielover66 1 month ago 8
"It's because we DO love them that we can do that. We can hunt them. I don't hunt and murder the animals that I love, or any other living being.
nakiommi 1 month ago 3
@nakiommi hunting allows the hunter to enter into the animals world and offers the possibility of a more intimate understanding of the animals life. This can bring about a great respect and appreciation for the animal, quite unlike a farm animal raised for meat. I really enjoy deer, I enjoy watching them, and hunting them. I have even slipped into a herd on Vancouver Is. right out in an open field and moved around with them as they grazed for >an hour at dusk, it was an amazing experience.
65DegN 1 month ago
@nakiommi Unless you're a vegetarian, some animal has to die for you to eat. If someone wants to kill it himself that's his choice. He's free to do that, just as you're free to be a little bitch.
jwalker477 1 month ago
I wonder if serial killers say the reason they kill too is because they "love" their victims.That man is a complete idiot. It seems like as a society we think less of animals than we do of ourselves , even though they can feel pain just as we do.
theycallmelizzy1 1 month ago
@theycallmelizzy1 Animals kill each other all the time. And I have no idea what this guys smoking saying that we can hunt them because we love them. I know I do it because its challenging and fun. It also can help the environments balance of the population.
sk8rdude324 1 month ago
@sk8rdude324 I agree with you. But thats why we have wars. To balance Our Population.
JackNaws 1 month ago