this makes me miss my LT1, and its monster TQ. I remember beating a guy in a foxbody who said he had an e cam, e7 head, and some sort of intake. I had a cam. Then he put a 150 shot to it. Then the only mods i did was heads ported stock intake gears and mail order tune. His run at OKC 12.81 mine 11.21 with a shit 1.8 60 (ya I suck) a friend of mine pulled a 1.68 60 and then missed third, I was smellin a ten. RIP thanx to a drunk driver with no insurance
@Quatermain98526 I think and this is just me,,, is that the LT1 puts the torque a little lower. So it kinda feels like the second you mash on it its time to go. The foxbody will always have my respect. Ya they are torquesters too and light as hell so they feel even faster then they really are. Kinda miss my old 88. As for the Ls1 I think and this is just me I think the Ls1 has more just not as low as an Lt1. Gotta love a car that can go 12's on nothing but DR's
@vtec6465 That is possible, I have never driven an LT1. My LS1 delivers plenty of torque for my tastes, but like I said I don't know what an LT1 or Foxbody would feel like.
The initial torque is great and all, but the top end of the LS1 makes it SO much better IMO.
@Quatermain98526 ya its nice to have it right right off the bat but whenever i would race an ls1 back when I was almost stock I would pull them right off the hit and in side of my car sounded like this (YES!!! YES!!!! SHITTTT NOOOOO NOOOOO!!!!!) I like the Ls1 and if I had the extra coin I would of picked one up but back when I bought the LT1 Ls1's were still 15k plus, so i was forced to make chicken soup outta chicken sh*t. As for not driving one,,, Stock your not missing much trust me.
@vtec6465 Good. 'Cause I had a chance to buy a 1997 Camaro Z28 with only 14,000 miles. I spent a grand extra and bought a 2001 Camaro Z28 with 41,000 miles. Have raced two LT1 Camaro's, very pleased with the LS1's performance over the old LT1's, LS1 also sounds better IMO.
@Quatermain98526 vary true Lt1 sounds to me like the same old small blocks from the 80's the ls1 sounds better and sounds like gods music under boost.
@Quatermain98526 Yea LS1 have a HUGE advantage at high numbers, but the laws are changing. They are starting to DESTROY cars caught High Speed racing. With the Low end grunt of the LT1 im just sticking with pretty much light to light races where the LT1 is pretty much king. Not worth anymore hitting 100 just to have to watch it get crushed next week if they catch you.
@Locruid ...your exactly right, my 383 stroker el camino will kill almost any car in light to light races, but at high speeds, these tuners and ricers will kill me. i have only lost 2 races light to light, 1 was a twin turbo subaru sti, the other was a dodge charger with a stroked 440 big block. i have raced a couple tuner guys on the highway, and they win every time... so i stick to short distance races, and i don't get in to much trouble that way, and i win : )
@steelfury455 it's an el camino not a lt1. but the top end is not that bad, it's not the greatest either, i'me also running 4.11 gears, so that helps a little, but it does a pretty mean 1/8 mile and a decent quarter mile in the mid 13's all day, high 12's if i really push it. but remember, it's a heavy car, i think thats pretty decent for a 70's car made of cast iron. lol.
@steelfury455 it's an el camino not a lt1. but the top end is not that bad, it's not the greatest either, i'me also running 4.11 gears, so that helps a little, but it does a pretty mean 1/8 mile and a decent quarter mile in the low 13's all day, mid12's if i really push it. but remember, it's a heavy car, i think thats pretty decent for a 70's car made of cast iron. lol.
Same here my 01 WS6 is fast, stock I ran 13.1@102mph.Ford had the 03-04 cobra and was the only car beating LS1 cars, but 01-02 LS1 car vs 03-04 cobra were both around 13.0 1/4 mile and cobra had about same size engine and supercharged!..But Ford got the 2011 GT perfect this time. I am running 12.40@112mph now in my WS6 with headers,tune, drag radials and the C6 vette,2011 GT are both within 2 car lengths from me in 1/4 mile stock! The 2010 SS is crap. I never seen em run under 13.60 stock...
@MrWrencher The Cobra's were still 4.6L motors. They didn't put the 5.4 in a Mustang untill the GT500's. But, I agree that the LSx motor is one hell of a motor that actually responds very well to fairly simply performance stuff. Throw a cam in there and a few bolt ons and gain 100whp.
theres no way it had cams. didnt hear it and even if it did it would of shat on the ls1. i know ls1s are better but when u cam the lt1 it can walk the ls1 all day long.
haha yea keep braging about your 2011 stang even tho they cost 30,000 for the gt and i bought my 02 z28 for 8,500.... and with around 2,000 put into it you will dust the 30,000 dollar gt with a car that cost 10,500 ls1s are beasts no one can say there not
Which engine is better the ls1 or the lt1? wats the difference? which camaro is faster the z28 or the ss camaro? sorry for all the questions lol its just cause i have a 95 v6 camaro and im gunna save for one of those two thanks :)
@MBCamaro95 ls1 is better in almost every category from what i know, they are faster, more efficient, and have less problems and no matter what anyone says an ls1 is an ls1 whether its in a corvette, camaro, trans am doesnt matter they all put out the same power they were just underrated in fbodys picking between a z28 and ss is up to your opinion of looks and how much you want to spend because the ss mostly cost more for its exterior upgrades any ls1 car is great id go with that i love mine
@southsidebiker06 Don't forget, some SS/WS6's came with SLP options that could include suspension(only '98-'99), exhaust, and intake lid(only '02). And the pearl paint looks beautiful on the SS :P. Z28 racing heritage > SS racing heritage.
lt1 was such a poor design. dont get me wrong its a small block chevy so you can get good numbers, but the distributor is buried so $1200 for a tune up, reverse flow cooling system so cylinder heads with other small block chevy's. the ls1 is just far superior in every aspect
my 01 T/A 6m ran a 12.9 with just a flowmaster cat-back. i had a 94 LT1 camaro 6m ran 13.7 stock. it all about the driver. that just a second off alot people suck at driving looks right to me.
To bad you could not order a LT-5 in any car other than the 1990-1995 ZR-1 Corvette. You might want to check your facts before posting and making a fool of your self. OMG factory order none the less a LT-5 for a camaro. I'm having a Ferrari 12 cyl engine put in my rider lawn mower as well, that is how stupid the LT-5 order from the factory for a camaro sounds.
And those GM's eat those P.O.S. fords all day long. Especailly mustangs pretty sad when 15 year old GM sports cars can beat the crap out of a brand new mustang gt. Now heres something to laugh at found on road dead, and I find em everyday.
in case you didn't notice i was laughing at what you said about a 12 cylinder engine in your lawn mower which we all know is sarcasm but since you decide to take what i said the wrong way i see that your still an immature little bitch....but i will agree on one thing is that fords are Found On Road Dead because we all know that SPEED KILLS so you can take your little Chevy fanboy shit and shove it up your ass :)
I wasa talking to demon of sarcasm and not you, I don't know how it got sent to you cause I figured it out that was what you were laughing at. It is this dumb shit demonof sarcasm I'm after not you so sorry if it went to you. Did you see what that dumb shit wrote when I have videos on here of my 700 crank hp 505 rwhp Corvette inside the garage of my million dollar home and he was talking that way to me and he dosent even have a car on here, but again sorry it was not supposed to go to you.
@BIGGREENLEAF1 and then came 2011 when the mustang 5.0 rapes the shit out of the camaros...new and old bring them all the 2011 5.0 will walk all over them from the factory
@leschampagnes1 old stock ones maybe. but i have a 93 z28 that already holds its own with an 05 roush, and i haven't done much at all to it. give me hell, a few thousand to put in the engine and i doubt ur 5.0 would touch it.
@minion630 the new 5.0 is nowhere near an lt1 or ls1 in performance dude....i don't have a 5.0 i have an ls1 and even i know that the new 5.0 rapes ss's...and 05 roush is probably a stock 4.6 with a roush body kit and rims...maybe an exhaust? all i know is i took an lt1 that was modified and killed it by several car lengths in my ls1 with headers/exhaust
@leschampagnes1 it's nowhere near stock. it's a beast of a car. i'm not talkin about like ungodly, but it's well beyond stock. but my only point was give me a bit of money (nowhere near what a 2011 5.0 will cost) and i'd gladly put my 93 z28 against it.
@minion630 roush mustangs are not anything special unless they have a supercharger or something and 90% of them do not...i know they cost like 30k but so did my 02 camaro when it was new probably....comparing prices of a 1993 car and a 2011 new car is pointless lol
@leschampagnes1 in a way, yes. except for the fact that for less than half the price, i could probably have my old car beating the new ones. in muscle cars, performance should dictate price. why spend 30k on a new mustang when u can spend 15k and get an older car that can smoke the new one?
@leschampagnes1 well, i personally can't stand any mustang after the fox body. not a ford person at all. my f-body isn't common at all. it's a 93 indy pace car model. #523 of only 645 made. and i love the way the 93-97's look anyway (hate 98-02 thou)
@minion630 being loyal to one make of car is not my thing...i love all cars not just one...and just because your car is two tone with stripes doesn't mean it isn't uncommon....it still looks like all the other f-bodies...and btw the 98-02 f body looks better than the 80's style double square headlights on the 93-97 camaros lol...besides the headlights they are the same look
@leschampagnes1 stripes were taken off. i'm not puttin em back on till i sell it. but my only point on that is that it's not exactly common. also, not exactly stock. and i really can't stand the front end on the 98-02. makes them look like every other car driving around, especially the chrysler sebrings. the different headlights is what sets it apart imo. and there are other subtle differences besides just the headlights.
@minion630 the 98-02 headlights look nothing like the chrysler sebring headlights lol...sebrings are smaller and are half amber....anyways you can get the aftermarket headlights for 98-02 that look badass for 150$ on ebay...with angel eyes
@autom0bile (Yea NEW camaro) every car manufactuer got cheap but my camaro has smoked plenty of gts and i bet if the challenger had a lighter body then it would smoke mustangs and camaros.
@autom0bile camaro has 425 horse so ford does not spank the new camaro plus you must be thinking of the automatic camaro ss which has 400 horse the manuel however has 425.
@BIGGREENLEAF1 buddy u should check your facts a 95 z28 does 0-60 in 6.5 sec and a 05 stang does it in 4.9 ........there great cars and look amazing but if you leave it stock yer gunna get raped by alot of cars
@BIGGREENLEAF1 damn man, i own a firebird, you make me feel bad about itt, people like you, fanboys, you ford and gm fanboys are horrible..every ricer ive talked to respects and likes every vehicle on the road, howbout you stop being biast about your opinion? people like you like to talk shit about everything that isnt yours..stop being a tool and trying to piss people off
its pretty sad that someone with noe money like yourself has to settle for a stock camaro with a piece of shit motor. loser. get some money and buy real things
its obvious that you know nothing about a factory order. you probably think that going into a dealership and asking for something there is a factory order lol. moron lol. you can special order from any car company. HELLO!!! what would a moron like you know about factory ordering though anyways, you only shop at walmart.
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An LS1 4th gen with just headers and exhaust and a better driver would have raped that modded LT1. Lt's arent half the engines LS's are as far as efficiency, just a poor attempt at modernizing an old boat anchor. Gen 3 for life
Despite all the Negativity you got, I completely agree. A stock LS1 is a high 13s car. Whereas a Stock LT1 is a high 14s low 15s car. Unless that LT1 is modded, pretty well, it will not beat an LS1 (given the ls1 is stock, driven well, and a good driver)
Stock LT1 is high 13's-low 14's. And some of the later LT1's have seen mid 13's with a good driver, and the right conditions. And the bolt-on record for an LT1 is actually 11.5, set by 1slowformula. Granted, that's with a 2800lb raceweight, but all stock internals, and no power adder. The record for a cam-only LT1 is also deep into the 11's. 12.4 is nothing for a cam-only LT1. A hotcammed LT1 can do it at full weight. And that's a baby cam.
Nice choice. That's the cam I'll be going with this spring. I'm hoping to see about 350-360rwhp through a 6speed cam-only with it. Now, I'm just hoping that the 10-bolt will hold up with some 3.90's, on some 315 DR's, and I'm shooting for high 11's-low 12's with the setup, nearly full weight.
@tspence45 wow where do u get these stats from i live at about 700ft above sea level and bolt on lt1's go low 14's high 13's not stock ones, stockers usually run mid high 14's. and cam only lt1 mid 12's nope with 100 shot of the juice mayb
@kibZ28 haha. Tell them to learn how to drive. With just an intake, LT's, full exhaust, and a mail order tune, I ran a 13.2@106 consistantly on a crappy clutch that exploded into a million pieces two days later. That was on 2.0 sixty foot times also. If the clutch would've been able to handle a better launch (1.7-1.8 60') I would've been in the 12's easy. It now has 3.90's, UDP, and a 52mm TB. So, mid 12's with just bolt-ons won't be a problem.
@kibZ28 I also forgot to mention that I have a set of 1.7RR's that will be installed before it ever see's the strip again too. So, I can assure you with all that, it will see a mid 12 second pass without doing any cam work or any type of power adder.
@tspence45 yeah, a buddy in his 97 ws6 6 speed, was stuck at 13.1@107 till he busted his 10 bolt, put in a strange 12 bolt with 4.10's and on dr's on a cool november day in the 60's he popped off a 12.7@109 full bolt on stock motor lt1.
@starksy17 that's exactly what i am saying if thats how you want to interpret it..... granted the dr comment isn't accurate, he was using mickey cheaters off a 6k rpm drop cutting a 1.7 60.
i agree. If youre gonna buy new heads then go all out. the cam is only a bit better but costs the same as a gm hot cam or a comp cam. lt4 conversion is dumb.
The LT5 is extremely rare, and for the generous amount of money necessary to procure a ZR1 Vette you could very easily surpass one by investing much less money in either an LT1 or LS1 car.
it may be equal but has no where near the same potential as an ls series engine, only thing better on the ls4 is the fact its an iron block, but the ls1's al block is good to 650 hp, which after that just get an lsx block - good to 2900hp
Factory LT4s are somewhat rare. They were put in most 6-speed 1996 Corvettes and about 120 F-bodies in 1997. Despite this relatively short run there are a ton of LT4 cylinder heads an "hot cams" available from GM goodwrench. GM discontinued the LT4 intake manifold but thankfully Edelbrock now produces an argeuably better one.
Think about this though, that Edelbrock engine is probably a bitch to put in. If I don't get an LS1 and i'm going to get a 93-97 camaro (I know the LT4 was only in the 97 camaro) I will not want the LT1. It doesn't satisfy me at all so i'd want a "LS1 equivalent" the LT4. They have around the same horsepower anyway lol 330 to 325. Then again the LS1 has more than 325 I believe.
Its not an Edelbrock engine, its an Edelbrock intake manifold.
A factory LT4 F-body will be very expensive...however there are a number of LT4 conversion kits out there that essentially replace the top end + the cam of an LT1 to LT4 or better specs. In my opinion the LT4 was deliberately underrated to protect the LS1.
Anyhow, thats my two cents. Don't eat yellow snow.
Hmmm I see. Either way, both amazing engines. Great power, beats Rustangs lol. JW, did the 30th Ann. Camaro Z28 have an LT4? I read somewhere that it did or was the LT4 thing a upgrade option?
@1337shellc0der i would take an ls1 over an lt1 anyday, keep coolant in them and they wont....morph? almost all cars are aluminum anymore but iron can definately handle more power
@ariel4more yeah. I have a '99 3.8 liter v6 camaro that only makes 200 horses while the 2010 camaros only have a 3.6 liter v6 yet it makes 300 horsepower. The ls1's were slightly smaller yet they had 315-325 horsepower while the older lt1 made around 275. How it's tuned has an effect as well, as an ls1 in a 1999 corvette made around 350 horespower if I'm not mistaken.
the lt1 z28 makes 275 hp and the ls1 z28 makes 310.... the ss ls1 makes 325 and the lt1 is better off the line.. the ls1 pulls away barely around 60 mph
yep, stock for stock the lt1 will walk the ls1 off the line(assuming both cars can get traction) the ls1 will however catch the lt1 at around the 1/8 mile and put a couple lengths between them by the 1/4. but like others have said, head and cam lt1 can be 400hp+ easy. but so will a ls1. the lt1 does have the fun factor with that low end grunt. and if you guys read the description of the vid, it is not a stock ls1, its a full bolt on car. i halped a friend build a bolt on lt1 that ran 13.3's.
to all the people that are arguing about the motors in the camaro. think about it. the lt1 camaro and corvette were about equall. the camaro did better at the drag strip and the corvette did better in the curves. same thing with the 80's. the z28 and ss always have the same motor as the base model. that's how it's always been. the power difference has always been in the bolt ons.
The new Camaro V6 will be the same as the Cadillac CTS(300hp). The Z28 will be the LS2(400hp). The SS will be the LS7(500hp). It's in the June 2008 Motor Trend magazine.
okay GM already stated they dont want the SS bumping sales with the Corvette Coupe, the SS is suppose to be the around the 400 hp range, the z28 will come with the 5.3 if i were gm or they may detune an ls3 or 2 who knows but they wont let the ss be better then the base corvette its how it has been since time began they have never been better then the vette stock vs stock so i doubt chevy will start now. It would be suicide for the vette sales. hey this maro is only 35k fuck the vette is 48 duh
no... never will. unless they come out with a special edition IROC with the LS7 but i doubt that. the Iroc is the only one to get the same engine as what the vette had during the same year. they get hand me downs vettes get the new goodies. lS2 400hp = SS, LS3 435hp = vette coupe.
The LT1 was a great motor, it was only rated about 50 HP less than a stock LS1 and u can add that HP from exaust and a cam. Plus the LS1 is aluminum block and heads and much more efficent, of course ur gonna beat it. newer tech against older tech.
Ya i know now its a fast car....drove in it couple days ago.... the transmision performance button really helps acceleration...what can i do to it to give it more balls but better gas consumtion?
Expect a lot of great potential + the cast iron block is indestructible. I used to have a 30th Anniversery Z28. With a few bolt on mods. Stock was 285hp and 325tq. After K&N intake, Flowmaster exhaust, chip, Edlebrock heads, port and polish, etc. I made around 410hp and 455tq. I had plans to put twin turbos on the car but I had sold it and now I am making different plans for my 00' Trans Am.
Not really. I saw a video on here..it was a LT1 powered Z28 with bolt-ons and a cc306 cam,with stock unported heads and stock bottom end,it made 366hp and like 360 torque at the rear wheels.
I agree with Go, but not to far off I say. A cam will make one of the largest differences in power so your comment is beleivable. And you're right about stock heads being unported, infact they're low end to restrict power due to government restrictions.
Not a typo at all, there are only so many words that we are allowed to write per comment. I also had some internals done, Comp Cams, forged lightweight pistons & moly rings and H-Series race bearings.
anyone see the chip if the car is properly tuned it can make more power GM detune all their cars so that they last longer the cop edition LT1 had only a tune and pushed 350 HP and was reliable think about it 285 HP out of a 5.7L V8 is nothing the engines not even breaking a sweat
damn the driver of the lt1 camaro need to find the guy who did the head work and shoot him cuz with a good port job with a matched cam you can make 400+hp easy ive seen plenty le2 h/c cars run mid-low 11's. so either he was on a budget and went with cheap port job and cam or he just doesnt know how to build a solid lt1
Agreed. Even an LE1 car with minimal bolt ons will rip an LS1 a new asshole. MY '94 Z with bolt ons, and 4.10s went 12.80s (On ET Streets)... enough to run with or beat most LS1s that you will run into. Problem is that any 4th gen is a bitch to work on and he probably (like you said) just didn't sort his combination out.
Yeah, people are so quick to bad mouth the LT1, yet probably 85% of them have not driven one. What you gotta look at is that the LS1 comes with shorties from the factory, different heads cam and intake, probably around 100lbs lighter then an lt1 car. Put new parts on a lt1 and bam. Although LSx motors respond well to mods, LT1s are underrated alot.
It all comes down to people on here being all mouth and no experience. Half of these guys have probably never even driven down a racetrack. Scratch that, more than half.
Did the LT1 win or am I just seeing things? I was thinking the LS1 would be the winner, my bro has a 98 z28 and it flies compared to the 94 z28 he had.
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BrianR133123 1 month ago
My 396 z28 would est them both
killerass12345678 3 months ago
can I get a translation on who won por favor?
RSXYYY 5 months ago
slow
jaredturkulaisgreat 7 months ago
Forgive my ignorance but what are the real differences betweet the lt1 and the ls1?
TheOmegaeyes 8 months ago
Hell yes, corvette rims.
Gremanade 8 months ago
IMO the lt1 sounds way better than a ls1. It has that deep rumble and growl to it, the ls1 sounds more high pitched to me.
mike510 9 months ago
this makes me miss my LT1, and its monster TQ. I remember beating a guy in a foxbody who said he had an e cam, e7 head, and some sort of intake. I had a cam. Then he put a 150 shot to it. Then the only mods i did was heads ported stock intake gears and mail order tune. His run at OKC 12.81 mine 11.21 with a shit 1.8 60 (ya I suck) a friend of mine pulled a 1.68 60 and then missed third, I was smellin a ten. RIP thanx to a drunk driver with no insurance
vtec6465 9 months ago
@vtec6465 Everyone says the LT1 was a torque monster. Well the Foxbody 5.0's were torque monsters too.
But what really gets me is that the LS1 has even more torque than the LT1, yet no one respects its torque like they do the LT1's.
Quatermain98526 9 months ago
@Quatermain98526 I think and this is just me,,, is that the LT1 puts the torque a little lower. So it kinda feels like the second you mash on it its time to go. The foxbody will always have my respect. Ya they are torquesters too and light as hell so they feel even faster then they really are. Kinda miss my old 88. As for the Ls1 I think and this is just me I think the Ls1 has more just not as low as an Lt1. Gotta love a car that can go 12's on nothing but DR's
vtec6465 9 months ago
@vtec6465 That is possible, I have never driven an LT1. My LS1 delivers plenty of torque for my tastes, but like I said I don't know what an LT1 or Foxbody would feel like.
The initial torque is great and all, but the top end of the LS1 makes it SO much better IMO.
Quatermain98526 9 months ago
@Quatermain98526 ya its nice to have it right right off the bat but whenever i would race an ls1 back when I was almost stock I would pull them right off the hit and in side of my car sounded like this (YES!!! YES!!!! SHITTTT NOOOOO NOOOOO!!!!!) I like the Ls1 and if I had the extra coin I would of picked one up but back when I bought the LT1 Ls1's were still 15k plus, so i was forced to make chicken soup outta chicken sh*t. As for not driving one,,, Stock your not missing much trust me.
vtec6465 9 months ago
@vtec6465 Good. 'Cause I had a chance to buy a 1997 Camaro Z28 with only 14,000 miles. I spent a grand extra and bought a 2001 Camaro Z28 with 41,000 miles. Have raced two LT1 Camaro's, very pleased with the LS1's performance over the old LT1's, LS1 also sounds better IMO.
Quatermain98526 9 months ago
@Quatermain98526 vary true Lt1 sounds to me like the same old small blocks from the 80's the ls1 sounds better and sounds like gods music under boost.
vtec6465 9 months ago
@Quatermain98526 Yea LS1 have a HUGE advantage at high numbers, but the laws are changing. They are starting to DESTROY cars caught High Speed racing. With the Low end grunt of the LT1 im just sticking with pretty much light to light races where the LT1 is pretty much king. Not worth anymore hitting 100 just to have to watch it get crushed next week if they catch you.
Locruid 8 months ago
@Locruid ...your exactly right, my 383 stroker el camino will kill almost any car in light to light races, but at high speeds, these tuners and ricers will kill me. i have only lost 2 races light to light, 1 was a twin turbo subaru sti, the other was a dodge charger with a stroked 440 big block. i have raced a couple tuner guys on the highway, and they win every time... so i stick to short distance races, and i don't get in to much trouble that way, and i win : )
dwdrums40385 7 months ago
@dwdrums40385 topend cant be that bad. are you using stock LT1 heads?
steelfury455 7 months ago
@steelfury455 it's an el camino not a lt1. but the top end is not that bad, it's not the greatest either, i'me also running 4.11 gears, so that helps a little, but it does a pretty mean 1/8 mile and a decent quarter mile in the mid 13's all day, high 12's if i really push it. but remember, it's a heavy car, i think thats pretty decent for a 70's car made of cast iron. lol.
dwdrums40385 7 months ago
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@steelfury455 it's an el camino not a lt1. but the top end is not that bad, it's not the greatest either, i'me also running 4.11 gears, so that helps a little, but it does a pretty mean 1/8 mile and a decent quarter mile in the low 13's all day, mid12's if i really push it. but remember, it's a heavy car, i think thats pretty decent for a 70's car made of cast iron. lol.
dwdrums40385 7 months ago
LT!...LS!... 327 cubic inches of raw torque is al i have to say... let me kno when you want it... lol
327malibu66 11 months ago
the LT1 produces higher torgue at a lower rpm so thats why it pulled ahead quick. But the awesome LS1 in the longer run has more horses an pull.
F371000 1 year ago
LS1 and LT1 are basically the same size...both stock engines put on dynos make almost the power at the wheels that GM rated at the crank stock
97z28street 1 year ago
U MIGHT BE CORRECT BIT LS1 IS ALUMINUM SO ITS LIGHTER
traxin5508 1 year ago
ls1 is bigger its what corvettes used after lt1 350ci (5.7)
traxin5508 1 year ago
@traxin5508 ls1 is not bigger, lt1 (5.7) 350, ls1 (346) 5.7
DeFeNeSTraT1on 1 year ago
Same here my 01 WS6 is fast, stock I ran 13.1@102mph.Ford had the 03-04 cobra and was the only car beating LS1 cars, but 01-02 LS1 car vs 03-04 cobra were both around 13.0 1/4 mile and cobra had about same size engine and supercharged!..But Ford got the 2011 GT perfect this time. I am running 12.40@112mph now in my WS6 with headers,tune, drag radials and the C6 vette,2011 GT are both within 2 car lengths from me in 1/4 mile stock! The 2010 SS is crap. I never seen em run under 13.60 stock...
MrWrencher 1 year ago
@MrWrencher The Cobra's were still 4.6L motors. They didn't put the 5.4 in a Mustang untill the GT500's. But, I agree that the LSx motor is one hell of a motor that actually responds very well to fairly simply performance stuff. Throw a cam in there and a few bolt ons and gain 100whp.
NBSV1 1 year ago
theres no way it had cams. didnt hear it and even if it did it would of shat on the ls1. i know ls1s are better but when u cam the lt1 it can walk the ls1 all day long.
BRUTESH0T 1 year ago
thats sooo slow
NumaNuma8248 1 year ago
Hell any camaro with a V8 is good campared to other cars that year
3rd4thgenFbody 1 year ago
haha yea keep braging about your 2011 stang even tho they cost 30,000 for the gt and i bought my 02 z28 for 8,500.... and with around 2,000 put into it you will dust the 30,000 dollar gt with a car that cost 10,500 ls1s are beasts no one can say there not
Kinsinger02 1 year ago
Which engine is better the ls1 or the lt1? wats the difference? which camaro is faster the z28 or the ss camaro? sorry for all the questions lol its just cause i have a 95 v6 camaro and im gunna save for one of those two thanks :)
MBCamaro95 1 year ago
@MBCamaro95 ls1 is better in almost every category from what i know, they are faster, more efficient, and have less problems and no matter what anyone says an ls1 is an ls1 whether its in a corvette, camaro, trans am doesnt matter they all put out the same power they were just underrated in fbodys picking between a z28 and ss is up to your opinion of looks and how much you want to spend because the ss mostly cost more for its exterior upgrades any ls1 car is great id go with that i love mine
southsidebiker06 1 year ago
@southsidebiker06 Oh alright dude thanks alot! once i pay off a bill i got im gunna start saving for one :) There so fast!!! haha
MBCamaro95 1 year ago
@southsidebiker06 Don't forget, some SS/WS6's came with SLP options that could include suspension(only '98-'99), exhaust, and intake lid(only '02). And the pearl paint looks beautiful on the SS :P. Z28 racing heritage > SS racing heritage.
booch137 1 year ago
@southsidebiker06 yeah i raced a lt1 with my 02 b4c a month or so ago and it wasn't even close lol
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
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MBCamaro95 1 year ago
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lt1 was such a poor design. dont get me wrong its a small block chevy so you can get good numbers, but the distributor is buried so $1200 for a tune up, reverse flow cooling system so cylinder heads with other small block chevy's. the ls1 is just far superior in every aspect
bic1457 3 years ago
my 01 T/A 6m ran a 12.9 with just a flowmaster cat-back. i had a 94 LT1 camaro 6m ran 13.7 stock. it all about the driver. that just a second off alot people suck at driving looks right to me.
prochargedTransAm 3 years ago
my brother factory ordered an LT5 in his 95 camaro. it was the fastest thing on the street. way faster than these cars.
DemonofSarcasm 3 years ago
To bad you could not order a LT-5 in any car other than the 1990-1995 ZR-1 Corvette. You might want to check your facts before posting and making a fool of your self. OMG factory order none the less a LT-5 for a camaro. I'm having a Ferrari 12 cyl engine put in my rider lawn mower as well, that is how stupid the LT-5 order from the factory for a camaro sounds.
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago
that's funny....
joshjones1984 3 years ago
HAHA LMAO
03svt89fivepointO 3 years ago
And those GM's eat those P.O.S. fords all day long. Especailly mustangs pretty sad when 15 year old GM sports cars can beat the crap out of a brand new mustang gt. Now heres something to laugh at found on road dead, and I find em everyday.
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago 63
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in case you didn't notice i was laughing at what you said about a 12 cylinder engine in your lawn mower which we all know is sarcasm but since you decide to take what i said the wrong way i see that your still an immature little bitch....but i will agree on one thing is that fords are Found On Road Dead because we all know that SPEED KILLS so you can take your little Chevy fanboy shit and shove it up your ass :)
03svt89fivepointO 3 years ago
I wasa talking to demon of sarcasm and not you, I don't know how it got sent to you cause I figured it out that was what you were laughing at. It is this dumb shit demonof sarcasm I'm after not you so sorry if it went to you. Did you see what that dumb shit wrote when I have videos on here of my 700 crank hp 505 rwhp Corvette inside the garage of my million dollar home and he was talking that way to me and he dosent even have a car on here, but again sorry it was not supposed to go to you.
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 and then came 2011 when the mustang 5.0 rapes the shit out of the camaros...new and old bring them all the 2011 5.0 will walk all over them from the factory
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 old stock ones maybe. but i have a 93 z28 that already holds its own with an 05 roush, and i haven't done much at all to it. give me hell, a few thousand to put in the engine and i doubt ur 5.0 would touch it.
minion630 1 year ago
@minion630 the new 5.0 is nowhere near an lt1 or ls1 in performance dude....i don't have a 5.0 i have an ls1 and even i know that the new 5.0 rapes ss's...and 05 roush is probably a stock 4.6 with a roush body kit and rims...maybe an exhaust? all i know is i took an lt1 that was modified and killed it by several car lengths in my ls1 with headers/exhaust
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 it's nowhere near stock. it's a beast of a car. i'm not talkin about like ungodly, but it's well beyond stock. but my only point was give me a bit of money (nowhere near what a 2011 5.0 will cost) and i'd gladly put my 93 z28 against it.
minion630 1 year ago
@minion630 roush mustangs are not anything special unless they have a supercharger or something and 90% of them do not...i know they cost like 30k but so did my 02 camaro when it was new probably....comparing prices of a 1993 car and a 2011 new car is pointless lol
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 in a way, yes. except for the fact that for less than half the price, i could probably have my old car beating the new ones. in muscle cars, performance should dictate price. why spend 30k on a new mustang when u can spend 15k and get an older car that can smoke the new one?
minion630 1 year ago
@minion630 after you drive a stock 2011 gt you will know why you will want to spend 30k on a new one instead of an ugly/common f-body lol
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 well, i personally can't stand any mustang after the fox body. not a ford person at all. my f-body isn't common at all. it's a 93 indy pace car model. #523 of only 645 made. and i love the way the 93-97's look anyway (hate 98-02 thou)
minion630 1 year ago
@minion630 being loyal to one make of car is not my thing...i love all cars not just one...and just because your car is two tone with stripes doesn't mean it isn't uncommon....it still looks like all the other f-bodies...and btw the 98-02 f body looks better than the 80's style double square headlights on the 93-97 camaros lol...besides the headlights they are the same look
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 stripes were taken off. i'm not puttin em back on till i sell it. but my only point on that is that it's not exactly common. also, not exactly stock. and i really can't stand the front end on the 98-02. makes them look like every other car driving around, especially the chrysler sebrings. the different headlights is what sets it apart imo. and there are other subtle differences besides just the headlights.
minion630 1 year ago
@minion630 the 98-02 headlights look nothing like the chrysler sebring headlights lol...sebrings are smaller and are half amber....anyways you can get the aftermarket headlights for 98-02 that look badass for 150$ on ebay...with angel eyes
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 the angel eyes do look good. but the car itself (base, not the ss) look very similart to the sebring. especially the convertibles.
minion630 1 year ago
@minion630 they aren't even close...i worked at a dealership for a few years...put them next to each other and you will think differently
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 i think they look really similar. certain models do anyway.
minion630 1 year ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 haha new 5.0 i think your full of shit
jfkyz125 1 year ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 no 15 year old gm sports car can come close to a new 2011 gt
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@leschampagnes1 Probly a zr1 could.
hondacrxd16a6 1 year ago
@hondacrxd16a6 could what? lol
leschampagnes1 1 year ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 Kid you must be retarded, cause ford spanks the new camaro and challenger with 412 hp to the wheels.
autom0bile 1 year ago
@autom0bile (Yea NEW camaro) every car manufactuer got cheap but my camaro has smoked plenty of gts and i bet if the challenger had a lighter body then it would smoke mustangs and camaros.
3200000000000 1 year ago
@autom0bile camaro has 425 horse so ford does not spank the new camaro plus you must be thinking of the automatic camaro ss which has 400 horse the manuel however has 425.
alexzanderpickel 1 year ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 buddy u should check your facts a 95 z28 does 0-60 in 6.5 sec and a 05 stang does it in 4.9 ........there great cars and look amazing but if you leave it stock yer gunna get raped by alot of cars
96camaro572 1 year ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 damn man, i own a firebird, you make me feel bad about itt, people like you, fanboys, you ford and gm fanboys are horrible..every ricer ive talked to respects and likes every vehicle on the road, howbout you stop being biast about your opinion? people like you like to talk shit about everything that isnt yours..stop being a tool and trying to piss people off
DeFeNeSTraT1on 1 year ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 Oh yeah?
JonathanRattayGT 9 months ago
@BIGGREENLEAF1 I'm a huge FBody fan, but you cant slight the terminator man.
Cenon2007 8 months ago
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its pretty sad that someone with noe money like yourself has to settle for a stock camaro with a piece of shit motor. loser. get some money and buy real things
DemonofSarcasm 3 years ago
its obvious that you know nothing about a factory order. you probably think that going into a dealership and asking for something there is a factory order lol. moron lol. you can special order from any car company. HELLO!!! what would a moron like you know about factory ordering though anyways, you only shop at walmart.
DemonofSarcasm 3 years ago
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I'm DemonofSarcasm I'm geting kicked of of youtube cause I'm a fag and hack into peoples account and noe BIGGREENLEAF the real one has my IP so the video of me smoking pot isgoing to my sheriff and I'm going to jail whaer I can suck a big niggers dick. I the Demon of Sarcasm like to pose as other people and hack into their account and will keep doing it to people until youtube closes my channel soon or my Shriff gets me for smokin pot. I Demonof Sarcasm am so scraed that BIGREEN isgoing to kill
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago
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No you are the Dumb Fuck my brother owns a chevy Dealership, see unlike you my family has money not livin in a trailer court smokin dope, which by the way your Sheriff dept. found that video very interesting and is turning it over to the county Attorney as well as you are possibly being charged with identity theft. I won't post your real name or address out in the open I'm not that dumb like you are for hacking into peoples accounts and posing as them, that is why you are going byebye from ytube
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago
drag racing is fun!
evangelizerbrandon 3 years ago
did t he lt1 pull him?
BLACKPOWER707 3 years ago
An LS1 4th gen with just headers and exhaust and a better driver would have raped that modded LT1. Lt's arent half the engines LS's are as far as efficiency, just a poor attempt at modernizing an old boat anchor. Gen 3 for life
242bleek 3 years ago
Despite all the Negativity you got, I completely agree. A stock LS1 is a high 13s car. Whereas a Stock LT1 is a high 14s low 15s car. Unless that LT1 is modded, pretty well, it will not beat an LS1 (given the ls1 is stock, driven well, and a good driver)
OMGLS1 3 years ago
a stock ls1 is a low 13s car
SunfireSL 3 years ago
Depends on the driver and tranny. Automatics range 13.5 - 13.7 6spds have been known to pull 12.8 - 13.4 so meh.
OMGLS1 3 years ago
Stock LT1 is low 14's.
Record bolt on only is 12.xx.
Record Cam only is 12.4x.
Think about it.
twcblackhand6970 3 years ago
Stock LT1 is high 13's-low 14's. And some of the later LT1's have seen mid 13's with a good driver, and the right conditions. And the bolt-on record for an LT1 is actually 11.5, set by 1slowformula. Granted, that's with a 2800lb raceweight, but all stock internals, and no power adder. The record for a cam-only LT1 is also deep into the 11's. 12.4 is nothing for a cam-only LT1. A hotcammed LT1 can do it at full weight. And that's a baby cam.
tspence45 3 years ago 8
Well then you are familiar with its potential. :D
I'm about to get a cc306 put in. Can't wait.
twcblackhand6970 3 years ago
Nice choice. That's the cam I'll be going with this spring. I'm hoping to see about 350-360rwhp through a 6speed cam-only with it. Now, I'm just hoping that the 10-bolt will hold up with some 3.90's, on some 315 DR's, and I'm shooting for high 11's-low 12's with the setup, nearly full weight.
tspence45 3 years ago
@tspence45 wow where do u get these stats from i live at about 700ft above sea level and bolt on lt1's go low 14's high 13's not stock ones, stockers usually run mid high 14's. and cam only lt1 mid 12's nope with 100 shot of the juice mayb
kibZ28 10 months ago
@kibZ28 haha. Tell them to learn how to drive. With just an intake, LT's, full exhaust, and a mail order tune, I ran a 13.2@106 consistantly on a crappy clutch that exploded into a million pieces two days later. That was on 2.0 sixty foot times also. If the clutch would've been able to handle a better launch (1.7-1.8 60') I would've been in the 12's easy. It now has 3.90's, UDP, and a 52mm TB. So, mid 12's with just bolt-ons won't be a problem.
tspence45 10 months ago
@kibZ28 I also forgot to mention that I have a set of 1.7RR's that will be installed before it ever see's the strip again too. So, I can assure you with all that, it will see a mid 12 second pass without doing any cam work or any type of power adder.
tspence45 10 months ago
@tspence45 yeah, a buddy in his 97 ws6 6 speed, was stuck at 13.1@107 till he busted his 10 bolt, put in a strange 12 bolt with 4.10's and on dr's on a cool november day in the 60's he popped off a 12.7@109 full bolt on stock motor lt1.
Feenyxxx95 6 months ago
@Feenyxxx95 so what ur saying is after he modded his car THAT much, it almost kept up with a 2011 mustang?
starksy17 6 months ago
@starksy17 that's exactly what i am saying if thats how you want to interpret it..... granted the dr comment isn't accurate, he was using mickey cheaters off a 6k rpm drop cutting a 1.7 60.
Feenyxxx95 6 months ago
My stock 97 ran a 14.33 on a 90 degree day and me not having a good launch. An LS1 is a great motor but not superior to the LT1.
twp35 3 years ago
In Corvette form the LS-1 is a mid 13 second car and the LT-1 is a high 13 second car.
BIGGREENLEAF1 3 years ago
LT1 for ever
masterala1998 3 years ago
Why would you want a lt4 conversion kit? If your going to break down your motor why not go better?
Hawkhell 3 years ago
i agree. If youre gonna buy new heads then go all out. the cam is only a bit better but costs the same as a gm hot cam or a comp cam. lt4 conversion is dumb.
sidescrollin 3 years ago
You can top an LT1 with lt4 heads and intake!!
the combustion chambers are smaller on the lt4heads which will raise your compression ratio.
The lt4 intake runners are .100" of a inch taller, the "stock" Lt4 cam is slightly larger.
The "LT4 Hot Cam is an GM Performance cam.
also the 96 GS Corvettes came with an LT4
LEOSPANTHER 3 years ago
The combustion chambers are actually a little bit larger in the LT4 heads (by an inconsequential amount like .4 cc).
drumr2790 3 years ago
so which motor is better
logtech2 3 years ago
the ls1 in everyway possible
the lt1 made 275 hp and the ls1 made 325 hp
redrs91 3 years ago
Isn't the LS1 smaller? I know the LT1 is a 350, but I swear I've heard the LS1 is 346 cu. in.
ariel4more 3 years ago 13
yea its smaller the ls1 is a 346 and the lt1 is a 350 but who cares about those 4 ci when you also pick up 50 ponies? =]
redrs91 3 years ago 3
what did they do, shorten the stroke? I know a 350 is a 4 inch bore, and a 3.48 inch stroke. What's the bore and stroke of an LS1?
ariel4more 3 years ago
ls1 is 3.90 bore and 3.62 stroke
lt1 is 3.90 bore and 3.66 stroke
redrs91 3 years ago
LT1 is 4.00" bore x 3.48" stroke
LS1 is 3.90" bore x 3.62" stroke
An LT4 is equal to if not better than an LS1 in output.
IllustriousSeven 3 years ago 3
lt4 had opti tho. opti ftl. and why get an ls1 when you could get the lt5?!
redrs91 3 years ago
There are many aftermarket cures for the opti.
The LT5 is extremely rare, and for the generous amount of money necessary to procure a ZR1 Vette you could very easily surpass one by investing much less money in either an LT1 or LS1 car.
IllustriousSeven 3 years ago
it may be equal but has no where near the same potential as an ls series engine, only thing better on the ls4 is the fact its an iron block, but the ls1's al block is good to 650 hp, which after that just get an lsx block - good to 2900hp
papaown 3 years ago
How rare are LT4's?
acetheheretic 3 years ago
Factory LT4s are somewhat rare. They were put in most 6-speed 1996 Corvettes and about 120 F-bodies in 1997. Despite this relatively short run there are a ton of LT4 cylinder heads an "hot cams" available from GM goodwrench. GM discontinued the LT4 intake manifold but thankfully Edelbrock now produces an argeuably better one.
IllustriousSeven 3 years ago
Think about this though, that Edelbrock engine is probably a bitch to put in. If I don't get an LS1 and i'm going to get a 93-97 camaro (I know the LT4 was only in the 97 camaro) I will not want the LT1. It doesn't satisfy me at all so i'd want a "LS1 equivalent" the LT4. They have around the same horsepower anyway lol 330 to 325. Then again the LS1 has more than 325 I believe.
acetheheretic 3 years ago
Its not an Edelbrock engine, its an Edelbrock intake manifold.
A factory LT4 F-body will be very expensive...however there are a number of LT4 conversion kits out there that essentially replace the top end + the cam of an LT1 to LT4 or better specs. In my opinion the LT4 was deliberately underrated to protect the LS1.
Anyhow, thats my two cents. Don't eat yellow snow.
IllustriousSeven 3 years ago
Hmmm I see. Either way, both amazing engines. Great power, beats Rustangs lol. JW, did the 30th Ann. Camaro Z28 have an LT4? I read somewhere that it did or was the LT4 thing a upgrade option?
acetheheretic 3 years ago
I think the LT4 was an SS upgrade that SLP handled. Only about 100 Camaros were LT4 equipped and only like ~12 Trans-Ams (i.e. "Firehawks").
Mustangs: for people who sorta wanna fast car.
IllustriousSeven 3 years ago
@ariel4more it is smaller its a 350 vs 345.7(if u wanna be exact)
1993devin 1 year ago
@ariel4more the ls1 was only a 346 for like 3 years but gm doesnt make it anymore besides crates
Monst3r177 1 year ago
@ariel4more its 348 but they still call it a 350
xxzerocoolxx45 1 year ago
@ariel4more LS1 is a 5.7 liter 350ci look it up.
xxpontiac00xx 1 year ago
@xxpontiac00xx 346
JPARKERZ28 1 year ago
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@JPARKERZ28 lol you think that... dumbass
xxpontiac00xx 1 year ago
@ariel4more its 346ci's but has 30 more horsepower stock, you can make both faster for cheap anyway
1337shellc0der 1 year ago
@1337shellc0der isn't the ls an aluminum block also?
ariel4more 1 year ago
@ariel4more yeah ls1 is aluminum, which if you're buying a used car, dont because they morph after less miles than a cast iron LT1
1337shellc0der 1 year ago
@1337shellc0der i would take an ls1 over an lt1 anyday, keep coolant in them and they wont....morph? almost all cars are aluminum anymore but iron can definately handle more power
ls7sscamaro2000 11 months ago
@ariel4more i think the ls1 is 347 cu. in.
MetalRulesRapSux 1 year ago
@ariel4more yes the ls1 is a 346 CI 5.7L freakishly fast tho
ih8polaris15 1 year ago
@ariel4more yeah. I have a '99 3.8 liter v6 camaro that only makes 200 horses while the 2010 camaros only have a 3.6 liter v6 yet it makes 300 horsepower. The ls1's were slightly smaller yet they had 315-325 horsepower while the older lt1 made around 275. How it's tuned has an effect as well, as an ls1 in a 1999 corvette made around 350 horespower if I'm not mistaken.
74orangebeetle 1 year ago
@ariel4more Its a 346. Lighter more powerful like 50 more horsepower in camaros. Both Great Motors. IMAO
hondacrxd16a6 1 year ago
@hondacrxd16a6 i give you props for some one with honda in there name to now so much about a chevy.
alexzanderpickel 1 year ago
@ariel4more no same size the ls1 is basically a newer version of the lt1 its just upgraded a little
3200000000000 1 year ago
@3200000000000 its small look it up. not trying to be mean just stating the facts
alexzanderpickel 1 year ago
@ariel4more yeah ls1 is smaller i think it is a 346.
alexzanderpickel 1 year ago
@ariel4more LS1 IS SMALLER
DACTIV3x 1 year ago
@ariel4more you are correct
DeFeNeSTraT1on 1 year ago
the lt1 z28 makes 275 hp and the ls1 z28 makes 310.... the ss ls1 makes 325 and the lt1 is better off the line.. the ls1 pulls away barely around 60 mph
lt1performance95 3 years ago
yep, stock for stock the lt1 will walk the ls1 off the line(assuming both cars can get traction) the ls1 will however catch the lt1 at around the 1/8 mile and put a couple lengths between them by the 1/4. but like others have said, head and cam lt1 can be 400hp+ easy. but so will a ls1. the lt1 does have the fun factor with that low end grunt. and if you guys read the description of the vid, it is not a stock ls1, its a full bolt on car. i halped a friend build a bolt on lt1 that ran 13.3's.
bradleydan 3 years ago 3
i ran 13.4s with just a cutout... :/ so.. lol just food for thought. I am a huge LT1 front end fan however.
fuzzynyan 3 years ago
to all the people that are arguing about the motors in the camaro. think about it. the lt1 camaro and corvette were about equall. the camaro did better at the drag strip and the corvette did better in the curves. same thing with the 80's. the z28 and ss always have the same motor as the base model. that's how it's always been. the power difference has always been in the bolt ons.
jimmybling31 3 years ago
the z28 is gonna be the top of the hill model. the ss will be under the z28
bcb513 3 years ago
same damn car minus a hood and some RPO codes
pretyflywiteguy 3 years ago
actually the it went: base model, rs, z28, ss
in the 4th gen the ss was a z28 with better suspension
redrs91 3 years ago
okaaay...so who won?
tietie1424 3 years ago
The new Camaro V6 will be the same as the Cadillac CTS(300hp). The Z28 will be the LS2(400hp). The SS will be the LS7(500hp). It's in the June 2008 Motor Trend magazine.
Vipervenomsrt 3 years ago
i read that also that's what they think not what gm told them....just food for thought
spittyss 3 years ago
okay GM already stated they dont want the SS bumping sales with the Corvette Coupe, the SS is suppose to be the around the 400 hp range, the z28 will come with the 5.3 if i were gm or they may detune an ls3 or 2 who knows but they wont let the ss be better then the base corvette its how it has been since time began they have never been better then the vette stock vs stock so i doubt chevy will start now. It would be suicide for the vette sales. hey this maro is only 35k fuck the vette is 48 duh
TheGodDamnedBatman 3 years ago
yeah i agree with you
i thought it was dumb a ls7 maro thats breaking the balance
things wouldnt go right if gm did that
TheBulletSaint 3 years ago
i think you are correct. Thats why the F-bodies stopped being produced in 2002. They were bumping with the car corvette in cost.
xtmracer91 3 years ago
i heard ls3 for the base and supercharged ls3 for the ss or z28 whatever the top of the line camaro will be
96blackZ 3 years ago
LS1>LT1 ..LS7>LS1 the new camaro..and thats the story
evils1z28 3 years ago
the new camaro is not getting the LS7. It will more than likely be getting the LS3, the base vette engine.
KngZ28 3 years ago
yeah last i heard its getting the 400hp LS3 but LS7 could come in later? maybe in an SS?
timmypstyle 3 years ago
no... never will. unless they come out with a special edition IROC with the LS7 but i doubt that. the Iroc is the only one to get the same engine as what the vette had during the same year. they get hand me downs vettes get the new goodies. lS2 400hp = SS, LS3 435hp = vette coupe.
TheGodDamnedBatman 3 years ago
Yeah like the LT1 can beat the LS1, the LT1 is crap!!! I raced them all the time with my LS1 and beat them all the time!!!
snowblow07 3 years ago
The LT1 was a great motor, it was only rated about 50 HP less than a stock LS1 and u can add that HP from exaust and a cam. Plus the LS1 is aluminum block and heads and much more efficent, of course ur gonna beat it. newer tech against older tech.
GuitarMaster8000 3 years ago 2
newer tech against older tech. !! CORRECT !!
evils1z28 3 years ago
but you can still make the same kind of power if you have the money so really its who ever has the cash.
TheGodDamnedBatman 3 years ago
Ya i know now its a fast car....drove in it couple days ago.... the transmision performance button really helps acceleration...what can i do to it to give it more balls but better gas consumtion?
kruegerr187 3 years ago
I got a 1995 trans am lt1, havnt got to drive it yet....just bought it for 5k excellent cond. what should i expect from this car?
kruegerr187 3 years ago
well F-body LT1's came stock with like 280 horsepower. So expect thats
crsmith56 3 years ago
Expect a lot of great potential + the cast iron block is indestructible. I used to have a 30th Anniversery Z28. With a few bolt on mods. Stock was 285hp and 325tq. After K&N intake, Flowmaster exhaust, chip, Edlebrock heads, port and polish, etc. I made around 410hp and 455tq. I had plans to put twin turbos on the car but I had sold it and now I am making different plans for my 00' Trans Am.
wildstar43 3 years ago
wildstar43 410hp is a stretch with those mods and 455tq has to be a typo.
G0FUCKURM0THER 3 years ago
Not really. I saw a video on here..it was a LT1 powered Z28 with bolt-ons and a cc306 cam,with stock unported heads and stock bottom end,it made 366hp and like 360 torque at the rear wheels.
FullThrottleFirebird 3 years ago
I agree with Go, but not to far off I say. A cam will make one of the largest differences in power so your comment is beleivable. And you're right about stock heads being unported, infact they're low end to restrict power due to government restrictions.
TiKondaRoga 3 years ago
That sounds right, but ported Edelbrock heads aren't going to give you 95tq xtra.
G0FUCKURM0THER 3 years ago
Not a typo at all, there are only so many words that we are allowed to write per comment. I also had some internals done, Comp Cams, forged lightweight pistons & moly rings and H-Series race bearings.
wildstar43 3 years ago
anyone see the chip if the car is properly tuned it can make more power GM detune all their cars so that they last longer the cop edition LT1 had only a tune and pushed 350 HP and was reliable think about it 285 HP out of a 5.7L V8 is nothing the engines not even breaking a sweat
codyasdfghjkl 3 years ago
damn the driver of the lt1 camaro need to find the guy who did the head work and shoot him cuz with a good port job with a matched cam you can make 400+hp easy ive seen plenty le2 h/c cars run mid-low 11's. so either he was on a budget and went with cheap port job and cam or he just doesnt know how to build a solid lt1
l91camaroz28l 4 years ago
Agreed. Even an LE1 car with minimal bolt ons will rip an LS1 a new asshole. MY '94 Z with bolt ons, and 4.10s went 12.80s (On ET Streets)... enough to run with or beat most LS1s that you will run into. Problem is that any 4th gen is a bitch to work on and he probably (like you said) just didn't sort his combination out.
JonJon95GT 4 years ago
Yeah, people are so quick to bad mouth the LT1, yet probably 85% of them have not driven one. What you gotta look at is that the LS1 comes with shorties from the factory, different heads cam and intake, probably around 100lbs lighter then an lt1 car. Put new parts on a lt1 and bam. Although LSx motors respond well to mods, LT1s are underrated alot.
WhatsaSpeedLimit 3 years ago
It all comes down to people on here being all mouth and no experience. Half of these guys have probably never even driven down a racetrack. Scratch that, more than half.
JonJon95GT 3 years ago
with proper tires a stock ls1 will break into 12s with only cut off exhuast and a cold air
98ZJKE28 4 years ago
I have all that and a little more, but I haven't taken it to the track. it's an automatic thought unfortunately.
ls1phsyco 4 years ago
unfortunately? autos are faster at the track so dont look down upon it...stall, rear gears and shift kit and youll shit your pants.
WhatsaSpeedLimit 3 years ago 2
you think so?
ls1phsyco 3 years ago
Did the LT1 win or am I just seeing things? I was thinking the LS1 would be the winner, my bro has a 98 z28 and it flies compared to the 94 z28 he had.
lunchboxEz 4 years ago
a stock LS1 camaro will never hit high 12s, simple as that.
FiredUpZ28 4 years ago