Don't Call It Mumblecore - Or How Indie Cinema Is For Lovers

[brbwatchingwillow]

Awesome beard.

[CameronMcCasland]

@brbwatchingwillow thanks

[989Angeles]

I dont even know you, but I feel like we'd be kick-ass friends. I love these vids, man. You have great taste in movies, keep it up.

[989Angeles]

@989Angeles well, I really like David Gordon Green films, I've seen a lot of people diss George Washington, calling it a knock off of Terrance Malick, which it is similar to his style, but still a great film, All The Real Girls and Snow Angels as well, both by Green.

[CameronMcCasland]

@989Angeles Thanks so much

[zionravescene]

The only way to kill mumblecore is to involve Alan Rickman.

[bigideas3]

What do you think are the minimum computer specs you need to run decent lower end quality editing programs? Also, are there any parallels between these films and French New Wave?

[CameronMcCasland]

@bigideas3 Im not really sure on the computer requirements. I know people who cut on mac and pcs that are few generations old. Its not ideal, but anything to get it done. I've learned that you can't keep up with technology and sometimes its best to make do with what you have. I think people like to compare this movement to French New Wave as they are both an alternative to the studio system. Everyone wants another new wave, but this is a different beast as anyone can use digital cameras.

[CineRam]

I enjoyed Beeswax, Humpday and Baghead. Alexander the Last I would've liked if it wasn't very obvious that they mad most of the movie up on whatever day they were shooting. Jess Wixler gets very upset in one scene about how her husband is ignoring her, and in the next scene it's forgotten.

Of the other three I liked Humpday the most. Very funny, excellent acting and had a well-thought out story. The awkwardness was well-earned, I felt, rather then the usual Ben Stiller torture routine.

[CameronMcCasland]

@CineRam Yeah, some of the directors mentioned use improv a bit more than others. I think it can work as long as you have a grasp on the whole story as you shoot.

[nriqueog]

Lots of these indie films remind me of the low budget films of the late 60s and early 70s. Dialogue being the main driving force of the films causing me to feel like I'm reading the movie instead of viewing it. Even in the ACTION category during this time there was lots of dialogue.

[CameronMcCasland]

@nriqueog thats a good thing in my opinion

[indieFilmFanatic91]

Do you think their called Mumblecore films are that called that because they mostly consist of dialogue?

[CameronMcCasland]

@indieFilmFanatic91 The term was coined by a sound designer who worked on one of the films and it just stuck. I think it has more to do with the combination of someone speaking lowly and the quality control of the microphone during film making. Sound may not always be up to hollywood standard. But yes in essence they are all pretty wordy movies.

[indieFilmFanatic91]

@CameronMcCasland Please excuse the typos in my last comment. I can kinda see why they got that nickname now having to do with audio. Pretty cool.

[willmorganholland]

I enjoyed Nights and Weekends. I guess Greenburg would be a higher budget mumble core right?

[CameronMcCasland]

@willmorganholland Greenberg is right up there with Cyrus in the evolution of these film makers. Greta Gerwig is a staple of many of them. It kind of helped bring her into Hollywood while helping Stiller get some Indie cred back. The trick with this stuff is paying the Unions. Everyone has to agree to work at scale, and as long as the budgets don't get overblown then the studios are happy. Its the time when people start calling people sellouts just because they want to feed their families.

[SiilentMiike]

In your opinion, what's the best way to tell the good indie flicks from stinkers without having to watch every single film? Great informative video Cameron. This is why you're the man when it comes to film making. You're full of info about every genre and type of production.

[CameronMcCasland]

@SiilentMiike Either read a review from someone who you usually agree with or follow the film makers and pay attention to the people who work around them. Good or bad though there is something to learn. Your bound to catch a few stinkers though.

[TheHouseofHorror]

I've actually been shooting a lot of Super 8 lately.... it's amazing. It's a lot cheaper than 35 obviously and if you watch on a projector or an HD transfer the quality is breathtaking lol. Good video though.... I haven't seen any of those movies though. I tend to not see a lot of the "Hollywood Indies" you pointed out lol. Even though they're technically independent(Cyrus, etc.) they're still mega-huge budgeted and I can't watch them the same way as I watch a true indie

[CameronMcCasland]

@TheHouseofHorror Thats cool. Id love to see some footage. Actually none of these movies would be considered "Hollywood Indies" aside from possibly Cyrus. They all were made independently from any studio (not even a mini major in the bunch) and all on budgets that hover at 2000-20,000 dollars. Baghead and Humpday were picked up by Sony later but were all done indie. These are kind of the antithesis to stuff like Garden State(which is a hollywood indie). U may want to watch some of these.

[Wolfboy1106]

@CameronMcCasland Cool! I'll check those out sometime! Can you remove my other comment? I was logged in under TheHouseofHorror LOL

[GhostsofJapan]

I'll try to name some films for you on budget - Cheerz q:)>

[CameronMcCasland]

@GhostsofJapan very cool. I look forward to watching. Post it as a video response if you want.

[TheTurboMonster]

i liked Puffy Chair and Cyrus.

[CameronMcCasland]

@TheTurboMonster Very cool

[CJMolinaTube]

Out of the movies fro the list I've seen I liked Baghead the most.. but something still annoyed me. I also really liked Humpday even though it was very awkward at times. Did you like Cyrus?

[CameronMcCasland]

@CJMolinaTube I actually haven't got around to watching it yet. I was out of town when it played the theater in nashville, and just haven't picked it up yet.