It's interesting... we were discussing the history of discipline in my ethics of teaching course yesterday and commented on how corporal punishment has become illegal despite its traditional use. I would say that only a teacher like the first example -- the bad example -- would use such a method. Yet my peers and I were all under the impression that it was rather acceptable in those years and that discipline was about creating fear. This video proves us all wrong. Nothing's really changed.
This was interesting! I agree. I've had a few that always felt they should intimidate the kids and all it does is make them not look forward to come to class. Do you have to give up or not set rules? Of course not! But if they like you and how you connect with them, they're probably more likely to behave well and ask for help.
I had a teacher that was like the second version of Mr Grimes. Mr Wilson made English fun, and I ended up with the best English grades in High School in his class. I had another Teacher, and I can't even remember her name, but was like the 1st version of Mr. Grimes.....I flunked that English class. Had to make it up in my senior year when i had a more open schedule. If I didn't pass both English classes that year, no graduation for me. Talk about stress!
What is it like being a teacher? It is being a teacher, a guidance counselor, a policeman, a detective, a judge, a nurse, and a bookkeeper all at one time. It is both exhilarating and frustrating; it is both exalting and humiliating…Give me a classroom with its you-never-know-what-to-expect atmosphere. –Blackboard Bulletin
Kids today are out of control. I was a High School teacher for 5yrs, but quit after classroom behaviour descended beyond my control.
The last straw was an incident in which a 15YO couple openly had sex during my lesson. I went over & told them to stop, but the boy pulled a knife & told me to “back off” while the girl actually said I could “have a go” on her or her best mate afterwards if I just let them be!
Humiliated, I backed away while the rest of the class just laughed. I quit next day.
I went to prep school. We had a code of honour. If the teacher ever said "Who did that?" or "Who said that?", the person immediately confessed. To hide was considered cowardly. That was a wonderful code of honour and a wonderful school. Teachers and students really respected each other.
are these techniques really that old??? Real-world problems... making the work meaningful to the student... I thought that this was a product of new research!! Intriguing.
Respond to this video... Yes they do, I am in my second year at university and I am writing a report on it now.
I cant imagine how an up and coming teacher could actually use such methods when there are so many theories that link to a more productive way of managing behaviour :S
I would have love to have grown up in this era. There was discpline at home, and in school. People had there freedom, and thelir libertys. Also money was not worshipped, it was used as a tool.
When teaching high school, especially angry, fatherless kids, you must NOT act as though you resent the students. They'll say to themselves "nobody forced this guy to become a teacher, and if he didn't like it, he shouldn't have taken the job."
Kids, especially those who don't want to be in school in the first place, will have no use for a pissed-off malcontent.
i agree- we need forests- not books- we need freedom sunshine nature- notsit down & shut up-it takes years to undo the lies learned in schools- see iroquois women by spittal- schools need entire countries of southern slaves and killed living forests/wild animals-to grow the students food/clothes/excess living-religious dictators invented schools-so they could train obedient slaves & dis- empower mothers as teachers by downgrading them as inferior=destruction of sanity/forests/native matriarchies
belive me running wild would cause a lot of degradation
ou are forgetting that first schools were made in anceint times cant tell sure but defenetly there were things in anceint greek that something more or less schools some with philozophical direction
besides any fact told to you can be considered to be a lie as long as it is stated as fact
I love how this film beats every other youtube film about poor classroom behavior... acting lessons certainly make a difference (even though it is 60 year old acting)
@Nottanemc You can't just compare kids of todays day and age with kids of that era. We live in a different time now and things have changed. Teachers need to keep their students involved and interested otherwise they don't learn or pay attention. I can not stand it when old people say "Oh back in my day kids behaved themselves!" or "Back in my day kids were better off because they weren't spoilt!" I really really hate that kind of attitude
@CliffThe1st I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a young educator. Where I come from, one can't become a teacher without understanding and implementing strategies to create a positive learning environment. Are you aware of the real situation faced in the modern classroom?
@Nottanemc As I am a highschool student I am VERY aware of it. I see kids that just go out of control but this CAN (not always) be fixed by keeping the class interested and getting them involved. Of course this is a little more reliant on the group of people you're with. Being able to add humour to your lessons is a good way of getting your class to relate to the subject matter. Sorry for my rant but I tend to see a lot of teachers out there who can keep the class under control
The answers to the first question are sexist; the girl answers thw cake question, while the boy answers the blueprint one. Besides, I believe, that in real life the students wouldn't have this kind of reaction; it takes some time to see your teacher changed and it requires his/her constant applying of these steps. In my opinion, the solution has some important facts like peer pressure and a teacher showing he can handle his class; but still there is more to be done (e.g. student co-operation)
I wish I'd seen this video before I started teaching.
It's like Bill Cosby says, these kids commit crimes when they're bored. To prevent boredom, call each one to the blackboard and have each one do a problem.
And don't browbeat the kids over nothing. The kids will then think "why should I bother if I can't do anything right?"
I really enjoyed watching this video. It was a great example of what not to do. I found it really interesting that there is so much that we can still learn from a video that is so old.
Oftentimes I forget that respect of others is not common sense. Many teachers, do in fact, teach by invoking fear into their students...and it is never effective. Thank you for this clear cut example of what not to do and what to do in the classroom in order to maintain a positive classroom environment, strong student self-esteem, and an atmosphere of learning. The clear explanations from the narrator where quite helpful and really caused me to examine my own methods. Thank you!
It's great that over 50 years later, this video is still relevant. Children still value being respected and talked to, rather than down to, and don't respect others who don't respect them. I like the way that the video was set up with the "don't" first and the "do" second. I appreciate the fact that the teacher takes responsibility for his students not understanding the material. A nice perspecitve that shows two directions a day in the life of a teacher can go, and it's all up to the teacher.
I really appreciated this video for all the great advice! I especially learn from mistakes, so showing the wrong way first and then the right way second was very effective. I agree when the narrator mentioned that respect is a much better motivator for good behavior than fear. Every time I've seen a teacher use fear to try to achieve good behavior..it never works! A firm yet gentle attitude when correcting behavior is always better. Thanks for sharing the video!
I went to Catholic school. Some of the teachers who were like this guy in segment one, were women who were not nuns. Most of the nuns, believe it or not, tried to be more like the guy in segment 2. My mother, unfortunately, was like the guy in one, ten times more mean than any stereotypical nun, and I used to envy the kids who had great parents like the guy in two. The kind who would work with the kids, not yell, threaten and control.
Thanks for sharing this. It demonstrates a lot of principles we've talked about in the classroom management class I took in the spring.
Notice how in the "good" model: 1) He takes responsibility for his students' learning, 2) he controls his emotions, he doesn't overreact to every little thing, 3) he's making sure they understand the material, learning does not end with the test!
Funny thing is, I had a tough teacher, with my learning disability (ADD) she helped me focus and keep my brain from scattering all over the place, I know she wasn't THAT bad, I mean yeah she was a riot at times, but she was serious as a heart attack. Everyone said she was mean but I got along with her very well...
I would like to use this video for my teacher training course. Do I have the permission? If you have some more related videos could you please send to me ...Thanks :)
I need to use this video in my teacher training course. Do I have the permission and if you have some more could I get to use them to too please... :)
I love this video , I work in the classroom and see so many teachers make the same mistakes this teacher made in the beginning .. needless to say I will be emailing them all a link come September . So many problems start from kids just not understanding the work and being frustrated . It's an old saying but it's better to be a trouble maker then to be called stupid and this is what alot of kids fall into .
I can't relate. I taught for Los Angeles Unified 20 years and dealt with real discipline problems, not television scripts. My book is Classroom Discipline 101, check it out.
I can't relate. I taught for Los Angeles Schools for 20 years and dealt with real discipline problems, not t.v. ones. My ebook is Classroom Discipline 101.
@RealWorldDiscipline If a student jumps up from his seat with a gun, just tell him, "Tyrone, point the weapon at the floor in a safe direction. Your grip is all wrong. The weak hand goes in front of the strong hand. Don't put your finger on the trigger, but straight on the side of the slide. Make the weapon safe by dropping the magazine and racking the slide. There you go. We'll continue to work on gun safety." :)
I'd like your permission to show this video at a parish wide inservice that I am giving on 30 July to our parish special education teachers. It's a great one! Is there some way I could copy this to a cd to show it?
It's good to know that kids have been misbehaving for decades. Parents always say," When I was your age WE ALL treated everybody with respect." Obviously that'snot true. Kids were fucked up then and they're fucked up now. But it's getting better now because there's a changing method of teaching and parenting being exposed. Like the book Parenting with Dignity.
This type of videos are very rare. It is very practical and useful for teachers to become more effective by changing their own behaviour. Most of the teachers commit these mistakes.
Thank you for the fantastic clip. Expecting more on handling misbehaving students or mischievous students.
I would have thrown that kid out too, and make an example out of him, rather than make a joke out of it like in take 2, you have to have a foundation of rules,
Sadly, not much has changed in teacher-student relationship and its' 2010! There may be a few teachers that have changed there approach to discipline but few will not give up being controlling. This was a helpful video to reflect on some of my methods of discipline/classroom management.
@SLUNAB41 The controlling ones are probably Communists who spent too much time reading the Communist Manifesto and Saul Alinsky. They are all about power, as these people were.
Yeah, is all the TEACHERS fault that kids refer to women as"bitches and ho's".Its also the teachers fault that teenage girls are getting pregnant. Maybe its ALSO the teachers fault that we have drive-by's, gang rapes.They are making this class look like the might actually CARE, and sorry to say some kids care about NOTHING. How many times have I tried to teach them fine art music or jazz that they scream"this fucking sucks"and the principal makes me sing gangsta rap/whore music because its "fun"
If education was simply about teaching "fine art music or jazz" there wouldn't be so much fuss.
The purpose of the so-called "education"(newspeak) system is to breed new generations of left-brain clockwatching rat-racing drones, correct? It's not education anymore than the "correctional"(more newspeak) system is "correctional".
Sadly enough you are SO SO correct. I just got written up today for teaching "harmonic analysis". I guess in order to enstate a totalitarian regime, you must first STUPIDIFY them... Public education blows.
Well the academic content itself isn't necessarily the problem--for how can knowledge be detrimental to a student. It's the conditioning that the education system imposes upon students.
Perhaps this stuff worked some 70 years ago, but NOW children are totally different! They're like little monsters with cellphones, computers and videogames!!!
This reminds me of movie from the 80's, called "it Came From Hollywood" that made fun of various old movies. Dan Aykroyd was in it and he had one line.
Displine is different depending on what school you work at. I been teaching for 7 years at a low income mostly hispanic middle school. This video is no help. You follow this video you will quit by the end of the month :)
lol. I am an 11th grader at a mostly hispanic high school. I get straight A's but I felt more relatable to the first scenario. The second one was too nice. My teachers always tell the class, "Half of you guys are failing." "It's because most of you don't come to class to learn. You're too busy goofing off." But surprisingly, we listen...
All good intention but wont work (at least in my context: Brazil...).
If the kids notice youll be nice to them instead of cutting their heads off, sooner or later theyll walk all over you. People try to follow the easier, more confortable pathway. Instead of working hard, theyll work the lesser possible and try to have fun: in your classroom.
The video has some good points, and they may work in some ocasions, but overall, wont work today (as i said: in my context).
Major breaches of discipline require you to demonstrate that you are tougher than they are and that their disruption will not be tolerated. Of course, this must be done within the guidelines that the school sets for you.
I'm an aspiring teacher now earning my certification. This does show that little has changed; it took be back to my math teachers and their different teaching styles. You don't have to be rigid to get the motivation of your students. Keeping a positive and enthusiastic attitudes makes it enjoyable.
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I am a teacher and this method of teaching does not work. You must show the kids who is in charge and you have to punish the smallest infractions. This teacher is a push over! This guy would never survive in the modern classroom.
bdwillia, I don't know what you're takling about. I'm a teacher too, and I'm telling you you gotta pick and choose your battles and this video is exactly right. YOUR attitude is a HUGE part in how the class works.
You sound like some Korean teacher who has no control over his/her classroom because of your lack of teaching abilities.
I'm a second year engineering professor, and this video is spot on. The more positively you can frame things with the class the better your results will be. This is exactly what a teacher should do.
You'll notice that the latter part of the video showed a teacher who was firm but not overbearing or mean. Disciplinary problems were not tolerated or unnoticed, but there was a clear sense of respect present that went both ways, and where there was humor in the disruption, he took advantage.
It's striking how relevant much of this video is for contemporary educational problems. Given the fact this video was made over 60 years ago that's just tragic.
Hopefully schools have at least moved on from the emphasis on gender roles - like the discussion on ratios beginning at 8:00.
Other than the blatently fake responses of the kids, and the way the kids were up and down like jack in the boxes every time they answered a question, it's a good video.
I would agree, but fear can work too if the student has good parents. All my teachers had to do was threaten to call my parents. It happened a few times and boy, did my parents freak out when they got a call from school. I was pretty straight by the time I got to high school.
because of the "whatever" attitude I constantly saw. Yeah, what you said is true! I understand that having self motivation to improve is in us, but c'mon, the teachers were not helping the cause at all by "making an example of us"
It's interesting... we were discussing the history of discipline in my ethics of teaching course yesterday and commented on how corporal punishment has become illegal despite its traditional use. I would say that only a teacher like the first example -- the bad example -- would use such a method. Yet my peers and I were all under the impression that it was rather acceptable in those years and that discipline was about creating fear. This video proves us all wrong. Nothing's really changed.
ceratlc 2 weeks ago
Use this
faisalkunnan 3 weeks ago
"I've got football practice! He can go fly a kite!"
williamcarr1991 3 weeks ago
This was interesting! I agree. I've had a few that always felt they should intimidate the kids and all it does is make them not look forward to come to class. Do you have to give up or not set rules? Of course not! But if they like you and how you connect with them, they're probably more likely to behave well and ask for help.
ashleyeberry91 3 weeks ago
I had a teacher that was like the second version of Mr Grimes. Mr Wilson made English fun, and I ended up with the best English grades in High School in his class. I had another Teacher, and I can't even remember her name, but was like the 1st version of Mr. Grimes.....I flunked that English class. Had to make it up in my senior year when i had a more open schedule. If I didn't pass both English classes that year, no graduation for me. Talk about stress!
179178 1 month ago
lol, kids from 1947 are the same as kids today
dobermangrl 1 month ago
Basketcase.
hdoggydog 2 months ago
Very interesting find. Much has changed about education, but still many of the same principles from over half a century still apply.
studysync 2 months ago
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What is it like being a teacher? It is being a teacher, a guidance counselor, a policeman, a detective, a judge, a nurse, and a bookkeeper all at one time. It is both exhilarating and frustrating; it is both exalting and humiliating…Give me a classroom with its you-never-know-what-to-expect atmosphere. –Blackboard Bulletin
amplivoxsound 2 months ago 3
Kids today are out of control. I was a High School teacher for 5yrs, but quit after classroom behaviour descended beyond my control.
The last straw was an incident in which a 15YO couple openly had sex during my lesson. I went over & told them to stop, but the boy pulled a knife & told me to “back off” while the girl actually said I could “have a go” on her or her best mate afterwards if I just let them be!
Humiliated, I backed away while the rest of the class just laughed. I quit next day.
SuperTruth77 2 months ago 4
@SuperTruth77 That is absolutely nuts...
Do you think there is anything you could've done to reign the kids in?
courierdubois 2 weeks ago
I went to prep school. We had a code of honour. If the teacher ever said "Who did that?" or "Who said that?", the person immediately confessed. To hide was considered cowardly. That was a wonderful code of honour and a wonderful school. Teachers and students really respected each other.
555pontifex 2 months ago
ALRIGHT ALIGHT ALRIIIIGHT! YOU GON' LEARN TODAY!!!!
ThePOfP 3 months ago
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Lottechoco 4 months ago
are these techniques really that old??? Real-world problems... making the work meaningful to the student... I thought that this was a product of new research!! Intriguing.
ryanhaggan2 4 months ago
White kids sure did have it hard back then.
dancingwithcalvin 4 months ago
would it be alright if i used this footage as part of my new documentary? I will mention you in the credits!
votesaxon07 5 months ago
Do they still show this to up-and-coming teachers because if they do they seem to forget it pretty fast.
LexiBandGeek 6 months ago
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tahneeliegh18 5 months ago
Respond to this video... Yes they do, I am in my second year at university and I am writing a report on it now.
I cant imagine how an up and coming teacher could actually use such methods when there are so many theories that link to a more productive way of managing behaviour :S
tahneeliegh18 5 months ago
There's no black kids....How can there be behavior problems?
CoachG1000 6 months ago 5
it's over 50 years old and yet this advice would still be considered "radical" by most teachers today.
WintersNight 7 months ago
I would have love to have grown up in this era. There was discpline at home, and in school. People had there freedom, and thelir libertys. Also money was not worshipped, it was used as a tool.
needlove1982 7 months ago in playlist Instructional & Educational Films
When teaching high school, especially angry, fatherless kids, you must NOT act as though you resent the students. They'll say to themselves "nobody forced this guy to become a teacher, and if he didn't like it, he shouldn't have taken the job."
Kids, especially those who don't want to be in school in the first place, will have no use for a pissed-off malcontent.
MondoBeno 7 months ago
who dropped that book!?
dewofpee 7 months ago
Half the class failed ?? says a lot for the teacher
TEARDUCTER 8 months ago
Haha, this is hilarious. It's dead on. 60 years hasn't changed human nature at all...
EmeraldFool 9 months ago
Dislike this video to hate discipline.
utubeguy35 9 months ago
They're 30 year old 9th graders!
needles1987 9 months ago
wow old american video that actualy is worthwhile Im stunned.
What the hell happened to USA educaton system????
by now it should have been a lot more advanced but look at the results nowdays
Beastorig244 9 months ago
Most of my teachers (especially in high school) acted like the teacher did in the first part of the video. Also, LOL at the transcribed captions.
Pooptality 9 months ago
i agree- we need forests- not books- we need freedom sunshine nature- notsit down & shut up-it takes years to undo the lies learned in schools- see iroquois women by spittal- schools need entire countries of southern slaves and killed living forests/wild animals-to grow the students food/clothes/excess living-religious dictators invented schools-so they could train obedient slaves & dis- empower mothers as teachers by downgrading them as inferior=destruction of sanity/forests/native matriarchies
lmollot 10 months ago
@lmollot thet wouldnt end well
belive me running wild would cause a lot of degradation
ou are forgetting that first schools were made in anceint times cant tell sure but defenetly there were things in anceint greek that something more or less schools some with philozophical direction
besides any fact told to you can be considered to be a lie as long as it is stated as fact
Beastorig244 9 months ago
I love how this film beats every other youtube film about poor classroom behavior... acting lessons certainly make a difference (even though it is 60 year old acting)
seriouslysiriusable 10 months ago 2
i see no african americans..i wonder why
gogitta25 10 months ago
I love the slide ruler....
glowingdarkmatter25 10 months ago
It's so true. I wish that all teachers of todays day and age would watch this
CliffThe1st 10 months ago
@CliffThe1st ... i hope there's a hint of sarcasm in that statement. I wish today's students would watch this.
Nottanemc 10 months ago
@Nottanemc You can't just compare kids of todays day and age with kids of that era. We live in a different time now and things have changed. Teachers need to keep their students involved and interested otherwise they don't learn or pay attention. I can not stand it when old people say "Oh back in my day kids behaved themselves!" or "Back in my day kids were better off because they weren't spoilt!" I really really hate that kind of attitude
CliffThe1st 10 months ago
@CliffThe1st I don't know what you're talking about. I'm a young educator. Where I come from, one can't become a teacher without understanding and implementing strategies to create a positive learning environment. Are you aware of the real situation faced in the modern classroom?
Nottanemc 10 months ago
@Nottanemc As I am a highschool student I am VERY aware of it. I see kids that just go out of control but this CAN (not always) be fixed by keeping the class interested and getting them involved. Of course this is a little more reliant on the group of people you're with. Being able to add humour to your lessons is a good way of getting your class to relate to the subject matter. Sorry for my rant but I tend to see a lot of teachers out there who can keep the class under control
CliffThe1st 10 months ago
At least these kids aren't borderline retarded or indifferent like about 75% of kids these days.
kingalow1 10 months ago
@kingalow1 Fuck you
Bing42 8 months ago
Caning is the answer.
pysgodfach 11 months ago
The answers to the first question are sexist; the girl answers thw cake question, while the boy answers the blueprint one. Besides, I believe, that in real life the students wouldn't have this kind of reaction; it takes some time to see your teacher changed and it requires his/her constant applying of these steps. In my opinion, the solution has some important facts like peer pressure and a teacher showing he can handle his class; but still there is more to be done (e.g. student co-operation)
ak4tune 11 months ago
I love this.How do you think Mr Grimes acted when he came home at night?lolol
kayfowler1 1 year ago
@kayfowler1 He made an example out of his wife.
coachorr 11 months ago
I wish the sound would be a little better... but ok. What did the teacher say in11.37/40?
lvthe1984 1 year ago
@lvthe1984 The sound takes you back. I like it.
pete5668 1 year ago
@pete5668 :)
lvthe1984 1 year ago
exactly like my language and french teacher
070000591 1 year ago
nowadays teachers can't leave a room unattended for even 2 seconds.
thefluffy7 1 year ago
nowadays teachers can't leave a room unattended for even 2 seconds.
thefluffy7 1 year ago
I wish I'd seen this video before I started teaching.
It's like Bill Cosby says, these kids commit crimes when they're bored. To prevent boredom, call each one to the blackboard and have each one do a problem.
And don't browbeat the kids over nothing. The kids will then think "why should I bother if I can't do anything right?"
MondoBeno 1 year ago
CANE THEM ALL, SIR!!!
henry01090905 1 year ago
i thought they just beat the shit out of trouble makers in the 40s
rabidworm 1 year ago
I really enjoyed watching this video. It was a great example of what not to do. I found it really interesting that there is so much that we can still learn from a video that is so old.
motherHENderson 1 year ago
Oftentimes I forget that respect of others is not common sense. Many teachers, do in fact, teach by invoking fear into their students...and it is never effective. Thank you for this clear cut example of what not to do and what to do in the classroom in order to maintain a positive classroom environment, strong student self-esteem, and an atmosphere of learning. The clear explanations from the narrator where quite helpful and really caused me to examine my own methods. Thank you!
CStrohmeister 1 year ago 9
@CStrohmeister - thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
It's great that over 50 years later, this video is still relevant. Children still value being respected and talked to, rather than down to, and don't respect others who don't respect them. I like the way that the video was set up with the "don't" first and the "do" second. I appreciate the fact that the teacher takes responsibility for his students not understanding the material. A nice perspecitve that shows two directions a day in the life of a teacher can go, and it's all up to the teacher.
jbertle 1 year ago
...... Thank you.... said the Dr. Jekyll
pappysmp 1 year ago
Excellent! Over 1/2 century old, yet these same principles apply today.
ACLTony 1 year ago 10
@ACLTony - thank you for your comments
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
I really appreciated this video for all the great advice! I especially learn from mistakes, so showing the wrong way first and then the right way second was very effective. I agree when the narrator mentioned that respect is a much better motivator for good behavior than fear. Every time I've seen a teacher use fear to try to achieve good behavior..it never works! A firm yet gentle attitude when correcting behavior is always better. Thanks for sharing the video!
ckvorst 1 year ago
@ckvorst - thank you very much for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
I went to Catholic school. Some of the teachers who were like this guy in segment one, were women who were not nuns. Most of the nuns, believe it or not, tried to be more like the guy in segment 2. My mother, unfortunately, was like the guy in one, ten times more mean than any stereotypical nun, and I used to envy the kids who had great parents like the guy in two. The kind who would work with the kids, not yell, threaten and control.
redenchilada 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing this. It demonstrates a lot of principles we've talked about in the classroom management class I took in the spring.
Notice how in the "good" model: 1) He takes responsibility for his students' learning, 2) he controls his emotions, he doesn't overreact to every little thing, 3) he's making sure they understand the material, learning does not end with the test!
KonekoD 1 year ago
@KonekoD - thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
Funny thing is, I had a tough teacher, with my learning disability (ADD) she helped me focus and keep my brain from scattering all over the place, I know she wasn't THAT bad, I mean yeah she was a riot at times, but she was serious as a heart attack. Everyone said she was mean but I got along with her very well...
RedneckYachtClubber 1 year ago
I would like to use this video for my teacher training course. Do I have the permission? If you have some more related videos could you please send to me ...Thanks :)
saimajkhan 1 year ago
@saimajkhan - I apologize for the delay -- yes, you can use this video. Regards...
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
I need to use this video in my teacher training course. Do I have the permission and if you have some more could I get to use them to too please... :)
saimajkhan 1 year ago
Thank you SO much for posting, none realizes how VITAL this IS to ANYONE!
PEACE Please Educate All Children Everywhere FOCUS For Our Children United Strong More love!
molinmusic 1 year ago
@molinmusic - thank you very much for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
If the teacher acted like this today. I bet the kids would shoot him.
Jumpybeaver 1 year ago
@Jumpybeaver maybe in Detroit :)
pete5668 1 year ago
I love this video , I work in the classroom and see so many teachers make the same mistakes this teacher made in the beginning .. needless to say I will be emailing them all a link come September . So many problems start from kids just not understanding the work and being frustrated . It's an old saying but it's better to be a trouble maker then to be called stupid and this is what alot of kids fall into .
isaveu 1 year ago 2
@isaveu - thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
Wow, I am impress with the video, I did not realized it and understood the meaning behind to have a good sense of humor
pgeiger69 1 year ago
Wow can I use this at my school.
dmjnmdjpd 1 year ago
Can I use this video to show to some teachers for a classroom management session?
crispyvenom 1 year ago
reapeat the class ill call my lawyer mr
bluewolverine40 1 year ago
We need more videos like this for our teachers, and for those who plan on being teachers.
Faustis82 1 year ago
@Faustis82 why the system wont have the support these teacher did in 1947
bluewolverine40 1 year ago
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I can't relate. I taught for Los Angeles Unified 20 years and dealt with real discipline problems, not television scripts. My book is Classroom Discipline 101, check it out.
RealWorldDiscipline 1 year ago
I can't relate. I taught for Los Angeles Schools for 20 years and dealt with real discipline problems, not t.v. ones. My ebook is Classroom Discipline 101.
RealWorldDiscipline 1 year ago
@RealWorldDiscipline If a student jumps up from his seat with a gun, just tell him, "Tyrone, point the weapon at the floor in a safe direction. Your grip is all wrong. The weak hand goes in front of the strong hand. Don't put your finger on the trigger, but straight on the side of the slide. Make the weapon safe by dropping the magazine and racking the slide. There you go. We'll continue to work on gun safety." :)
pete5668 1 year ago
I'd like your permission to show this video at a parish wide inservice that I am giving on 30 July to our parish special education teachers. It's a great one! Is there some way I could copy this to a cd to show it?
ttheaux 1 year ago
@ttheaux - yes you have permission. I will e-mail you more info.
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
@ttheaux Use Rhapsody downloader.
daddeo01905 1 year ago
Despite following all the good recommendations for classroom management, there will always be an asshole or two in your classroom who you cannot fix.
RenewableFuel 1 year ago
"By golly I sure fell for that one"
cosmiclovemonkey 1 year ago
I want to play this in my math class. Thanks for posting.
frazetta70 1 year ago
@frazetta70 - you have permission to do so - you are welcome! regards....
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
It's good to know that kids have been misbehaving for decades. Parents always say," When I was your age WE ALL treated everybody with respect." Obviously that'snot true. Kids were fucked up then and they're fucked up now. But it's getting better now because there's a changing method of teaching and parenting being exposed. Like the book Parenting with Dignity.
cellardoor199991 1 year ago
This video is pretty awesome. Its so... perfect!
CanyonGamer 1 year ago
@CanyonGamer - thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
This type of videos are very rare. It is very practical and useful for teachers to become more effective by changing their own behaviour. Most of the teachers commit these mistakes.
Thank you for the fantastic clip. Expecting more on handling misbehaving students or mischievous students.
sastrysubramanya 1 year ago 2
@sastrysubramanya - thank you very much for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
@sastrysubramanya - thank you very much!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
this video is true in the home as well
most problems with kids comes from too much or to little humor
children needs to be guided not punished
Azsli 1 year ago
Graet video. Very helpful
AbcSchoolOfPolish 1 year ago
@AbcSchoolOfPolish - thank you
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
Shiiiit, dat wuz old skool.
Buteojama 1 year ago
LOL The 40's, this is so delightfully lame ^_^
RedneckYachtClubber 1 year ago
I would have thrown that kid out too, and make an example out of him, rather than make a joke out of it like in take 2, you have to have a foundation of rules,
clarkkent0 1 year ago
Sadly, not much has changed in teacher-student relationship and its' 2010! There may be a few teachers that have changed there approach to discipline but few will not give up being controlling. This was a helpful video to reflect on some of my methods of discipline/classroom management.
SLUNAB41 1 year ago
@SLUNAB41 The controlling ones are probably Communists who spent too much time reading the Communist Manifesto and Saul Alinsky. They are all about power, as these people were.
pete5668 1 year ago
im not sure wats the best Strategy for Keepign DIscipline in CLass at School, i think a a mix of both these methosds is best
faridjabba 1 year ago
says this was great. I'm sitting here reflecting on my professionalism and seeing where I can improve. This video was a great helper,
westphillyamma 1 year ago
@westphillyamma - thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
It works if all the students are white.
deepcow 1 year ago
@deepcow Haha, I couldn't agree with you more. xD
YetAnthony 1 year ago
"By golly, I sure fell for that one." Hahaha, what a pansy.
ArxVirtus 1 year ago
(second act)well no such teacher exist in the world
riddlekillerkiller 1 year ago
pschhh
take these kids to train with the shaolin monks in china
that will teach them discpline
RyanP551 1 year ago
SOURPUSS!!!!
TheCohagen 1 year ago
Lol he had it easy.
TheCohagen 1 year ago
GREAT VIDEO
CadensNanna09 1 year ago
@CadensNanna09 thank you!
rosaryfilms 1 year ago
The best way to manage a classroom is to make the "lesson" FIVE MINUTES MAX!
After that mini-lesson, let them work together in groups.
If you stand at the board all period, you'll be out of breath.
MondoBeno 1 year ago
That song Another brick in the wall by Pink Floyd comes to mind......
ronnocdlanor 1 year ago
Teacher has no control of the
class
robertlewisvazquez 1 year ago
I had a very strict teacher back in 6th grade. Just crack up laughing and he'd run up to you and shake the hell out of you.
zekepig 1 year ago 4
NEVER EVER leave the class with unsupervised students!
Lintart 1 year ago
teachers should also note that some 63% of words are funny in a sexy dirty 'funny' way. "I can't say titmouse without giggling like a 'school girl'
rystrttn1 1 year ago
The first half made me so angry-- such bad teaching. I had to force myself to see it through.
significantjoe 1 year ago
Good ideas, but they might not work perfectly in the 21st century. It really depends on the classroom.
Saberthal 1 year ago
Yeah, is all the TEACHERS fault that kids refer to women as"bitches and ho's".Its also the teachers fault that teenage girls are getting pregnant. Maybe its ALSO the teachers fault that we have drive-by's, gang rapes.They are making this class look like the might actually CARE, and sorry to say some kids care about NOTHING. How many times have I tried to teach them fine art music or jazz that they scream"this fucking sucks"and the principal makes me sing gangsta rap/whore music because its "fun"
pissedpatriot1776 1 year ago
If education was simply about teaching "fine art music or jazz" there wouldn't be so much fuss.
The purpose of the so-called "education"(newspeak) system is to breed new generations of left-brain clockwatching rat-racing drones, correct? It's not education anymore than the "correctional"(more newspeak) system is "correctional".
teched246 1 year ago
Sadly enough you are SO SO correct. I just got written up today for teaching "harmonic analysis". I guess in order to enstate a totalitarian regime, you must first STUPIDIFY them... Public education blows.
pissedpatriot1776 1 year ago
Well the academic content itself isn't necessarily the problem--for how can knowledge be detrimental to a student. It's the conditioning that the education system imposes upon students.
teched246 1 year ago
@pissedpatriot1776 I couldn't agree more.
pete5668 1 year ago
You are so right, they want to educate us to become robots...
ronnocdlanor 1 year ago
All Bad teachers should watch this
pf91rodman 2 years ago 2
Perhaps this stuff worked some 70 years ago, but NOW children are totally different! They're like little monsters with cellphones, computers and videogames!!!
compasgays 2 years ago
@compasgays im 10 and thats true
girl10julie 1 year ago
ok, but I'm really surprised that a 10-year-old is interested in videos about classroom discipline!
compasgays 1 year ago 2
This reminds me of movie from the 80's, called "it Came From Hollywood" that made fun of various old movies. Dan Aykroyd was in it and he had one line.
"Must be tough being a 35-year-old freshman."
blackferret64 2 years ago
just trow something to the teachers head and nobody did it....
19alexander95 2 years ago
lololololol old school shit right here.
TheHcomment 2 years ago 2
all u see me doing in class is sleeping. i get yelled at every freakin day.
rmm19741 2 years ago
2:31 nice hairdew-dew
scaramoochscaramooch 2 years ago
This is an excellent video. A fantastic example.
Irisheyes77christy 2 years ago
This is so Leave It To Beaver
NYCman530 2 years ago 4
Displine is different depending on what school you work at. I been teaching for 7 years at a low income mostly hispanic middle school. This video is no help. You follow this video you will quit by the end of the month :)
oush55 2 years ago
lol. I am an 11th grader at a mostly hispanic high school. I get straight A's but I felt more relatable to the first scenario. The second one was too nice. My teachers always tell the class, "Half of you guys are failing." "It's because most of you don't come to class to learn. You're too busy goofing off." But surprisingly, we listen...
Thatsjadeforyou 2 years ago
i hate discipline teachers they dont even check first before the can u
digimonhero 2 years ago
All good intention but wont work (at least in my context: Brazil...).
If the kids notice youll be nice to them instead of cutting their heads off, sooner or later theyll walk all over you. People try to follow the easier, more confortable pathway. Instead of working hard, theyll work the lesser possible and try to have fun: in your classroom.
The video has some good points, and they may work in some ocasions, but overall, wont work today (as i said: in my context).
maxaug 2 years ago
Keep in mind what the video says...
MINOR breaches of discipline.
mpmcd81 2 years ago
Major breaches of discipline require you to demonstrate that you are tougher than they are and that their disruption will not be tolerated. Of course, this must be done within the guidelines that the school sets for you.
mpmcd81 2 years ago
Awsome! Thank you so much for sharing this video. Respect is the key.
carlapat2012 2 years ago
carlapat2012 , thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 2 years ago
I'm an aspiring teacher now earning my certification. This does show that little has changed; it took be back to my math teachers and their different teaching styles. You don't have to be rigid to get the motivation of your students. Keeping a positive and enthusiastic attitudes makes it enjoyable.
JLady590 2 years ago
"you boys use it in shop when you read a blueprint" Lolz.
montichan 2 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I am a teacher and this method of teaching does not work. You must show the kids who is in charge and you have to punish the smallest infractions. This teacher is a push over! This guy would never survive in the modern classroom.
bdwillia1982 2 years ago
bdwillia, I don't know what you're takling about. I'm a teacher too, and I'm telling you you gotta pick and choose your battles and this video is exactly right. YOUR attitude is a HUGE part in how the class works.
You sound like some Korean teacher who has no control over his/her classroom because of your lack of teaching abilities.
Koreavids 2 years ago 2
@Koreavids Why do you pick on Koreans? Koreans are good people and excellent archers and speedskaters (I'm not Korean).
pete5668 1 year ago
I'm a second year engineering professor, and this video is spot on. The more positively you can frame things with the class the better your results will be. This is exactly what a teacher should do.
You'll notice that the latter part of the video showed a teacher who was firm but not overbearing or mean. Disciplinary problems were not tolerated or unnoticed, but there was a clear sense of respect present that went both ways, and where there was humor in the disruption, he took advantage.
mpmcd81 2 years ago 8
I just want to know where you teach. You cannot imagine what is said about the engineering profs here.
futurenano 2 years ago
Vanderbilt.
mpmcd81 2 years ago
That may be true but that can work if you actully try it dont judge people. its very mean to do.
KawaiiMangaArtist 2 years ago
Wow. Really great film.
mpmcd81 2 years ago
very interesting!
connieBAbonnie 2 years ago
Kids don't change.
Schools don't change.
Teachers don't change....er I'm not so sure about all that.
Gratuitous violence on the streets is becoming less rare, prisons are getting fuller.
1401JSC 2 years ago
It's striking how relevant much of this video is for contemporary educational problems. Given the fact this video was made over 60 years ago that's just tragic.
Hopefully schools have at least moved on from the emphasis on gender roles - like the discussion on ratios beginning at 8:00.
mikebogle 2 years ago
WoW!
What a rare and vintage piece of Americana!
Classic!
ShortFormCinema 2 years ago 2
Other than the blatently fake responses of the kids, and the way the kids were up and down like jack in the boxes every time they answered a question, it's a good video.
bookworm266 2 years ago
LMAO... "oh come on i want to do these problems"... lmao... yea ok...
gero1295 2 years ago 3
I agree, respect is better than fear
namusic 2 years ago 4
I would agree, but fear can work too if the student has good parents. All my teachers had to do was threaten to call my parents. It happened a few times and boy, did my parents freak out when they got a call from school. I was pretty straight by the time I got to high school.
jeffw1267 2 years ago
@namusic: true especially because fear often hinders learning.
meisterslehrjahr 1 year ago
because of the "whatever" attitude I constantly saw. Yeah, what you said is true! I understand that having self motivation to improve is in us, but c'mon, the teachers were not helping the cause at all by "making an example of us"
vidfreak727 2 years ago
That's a problem almost everywhere
strrrangemen 2 years ago
Great video! Teachers need reminders on how to treat students and manage their classrooms. Thank you for posting!
ecuagringo 2 years ago 2
ecuagringo, thank you for your comments!
rosaryfilms 2 years ago
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KASISAMADIA 2 years ago
Wow, this video illustrates it's point very well.
wanderingmenstruals 2 years ago 2